Lorna Shore's Will Ramos - I Want to Win Over Deathcore Haters | 2022 Album of the Year

[@Etiennouhh]

I love everything about this guy and his band. The song " Soulless Existence " is a real masterpiece.

[@MrElementHD]

Yes!! Best song on the album imo

[@5Demona5]

First time I heard it, I didn't like it. Then I realized I heard it with expectations. So I gave it a second chance, clearing my mind of any expectations aaaand I love it

[@Hyperfluxe]

WRATH

[@CalciferFireNonsenseGaming]

its really not

[@spencerellington547]

It was my most played song on my Spotify Wrapped. 96 times lol

[@svtcobra666]

Since Will joined Lorna Shore, they've definitely converted me to a Deathcore fan...they have now opened up so much more metal for me and I'm thankful for that.

[@stricklywicked1112]

Death core fan or not. You got to like this dude

[@ptr_grin]

Very true :'v

[@paulhansen6859]

Will, it’s to the point now where we want you to take good care of yourself. Your art means a lot to us

[@nickshepley2566]

Literally though

[@Heavymetal16]

Your*

[@prepperandson1399]

Oh will take care of yourself how sweet

[@lastspoonleft5947]

THIS THIS THIS.

[@lastspoonleft5947]

I just found Will and it’s what made me finally play Lorna Shore. It’s what I’ve been NEEDING out of metal for these past 6 or 7 years. Will, please look out for yourself. The music industry loves to chew up and spit out artists like you. It’s an industry where you are worth more money dead than you are alive.

[@TheDarkXn]

I'm kinda old school and not much into "core" bands but I really like Lorna Shore and Will is pretty awesome. The fact that they do have those Death, Black and symphonic elements, as well as good production is probably exactly why I like them.... And I do like my sad tunes too 😂

[@CalciferFireNonsenseGaming]

LMFAO

[@NiRvAnA6890]

Yeah but the chugga chugga thump thump breakdowns suck so i guess they suck by definition.

[@ninahansen4051]

Yeah, its exactly the same for me, Im a total old schooler, but I freakin' love Lorna Shore!!

[@OGFlipperbaby]

truth.

[@OGFlipperbaby]

with a name like nirvana thats freaking hilarious @@NiRvAnA6890

[@themightymcb7310]

Between Lorna Shore, DarkoUS, Fit For An Autopsy, Spite, and Shadow of Intent, the deathcore scene has been churning out more interesting and unique sounding bands than most other subgenres these days. It's like a deathcore renaissance right now.

[@kogaju7678]

Spite is the shit!

[@Spyhydro]

What about slaughter to prevail

[@themightymcb7310]

@@Spyhydro good band but I was highlighting unique sounds in the genre. STP are more of an iteration of the classic formula so I felt they were a bad example

[@ares_bliss]

@@kogaju7678 Downtempo Deathcore is my favorite, if I'm not wrong Distant is Downtempo right?

[@raymondbellamy6497]

Distant, paleface, bodysnatcher, I AM and Enterprise Earth are all also killing it 🔥

[@laurak1341]

I absolutely adore Will’s attitude. He’s so upbeat, he’s so humble. Seems like a genuinely good guy. And his love for In Flames is so endearing 😂

[@SublimeLyfeNow]

Can we all just have a moment of silent reverie for how adorable Will Ramos is?!!😍❤️✨️☺️😉👀

[@shaunmason3243]

Very grounded and thoughtful person. Knowing a band is sincere makes being their fan more special. I love the fact that he is aware of subgenre labels, but states that in the end, it's metal and this is how they do it. Brilliant.

[@dylanhamill9684]

This band with Will is so amazing! The new album has to be one of the greatest metal albums of all time! So well deserved, great job Lorna Shore!!

[@noot6230]

The pain remains trilogy was the soundtrack to the last month of my deployment, it means a lot to me and it truly does grasp everything that it feels like and how it feels to just have that pain and loss in your life. It was super helpful on my hardest days. So I appreciate Lorna shore so much for that

[@aiureapriniarba7]

The only deathcore band I have listened to so far. Metalcore was the factory setting for me but I am obsessed with this EP. Masterpiece!

[@MinaGrogg77]

This guy is the realest most down to earth dude!! I love him so much

[@bwolfe2559]

I'm a 54 yr. Old bastard and I love Lorna shore, will has a great head on his shoulders, great guy!

[@VictorRobotov00]

He had me at “In Flames”. My favorite in metal too. I need to actually dig in and listen to these guys’ deeper stuff and not just videos on KZbin. They are pretty good with what I’ve caught. And this seems like a cool dude, sells his band really well. I hope they continue to see more of the success they’ve seen. Best of luck to Lorna Shore.

[@TheMostGloriousBeard]

Definitely check out the pain remains trilogy

[@VictorRobotov00]

@@TheMostGloriousBeard Will do. Thank you.

[@DeathcoreManiac]

Immortal and Pain Remains albums + And I Return to Nothingness EP are all masterpieces

[@nikoraasu6929]

@@DeathcoreManiac immortal is Pre Will

[@DeathcoreManiac]

@@nikoraasu6929 I know but it's a great album, it's actually the album that got me into Lorna Shore way before I even knew Will existed

[@ptr_grin]

17:29 That was the cutest reaction of Will being a fan of In Flames 😆

[@lifebloodmusic4227]

I find Lorna shore really relaxing As an artist I’ll listen to them for hours on repeat while I draw

[@Cthulhu92]

Will, you better stay in Lorna shore forever!! You can't leave us. We love you the most, you've made the band so much better, and grown it's popularity so much since you've been in it. Also, I'm in the millennial squad too! 🤘🏻💀🤘🏻 1992 represent!

[@c4ss1133]

similar to other metal icons, the genre-bending is so so crucial in my opinion.. the usage of symphonic, blackened and death tropes all in one album, one song in some cases, is what makes this band stand out. you can tell every decision each musician makes is purposeful, love lorna

[@aly01123]

The topic of genre/sub genres overcomplicating things, I’ve been feeling that a lot lately so I LOVE that he brought up. It’s all just metal. Or simply, it’s all just music.

[@MONDOCHITARRA]

Sebrava quasi che il mondo del metal fosse morente e invece questo ragazzo con il suo grande carisma e talento, ha dato nuova linfa vitale a tutta la scena, sei un grande Will un saluto dall'Italia!

[@joshuaa7223]

Dying? lol would never happen.

[@VISKOMETAL_X]

Giuro che non mi sarei mai aspettato di trovare un italiano nei commenti

[@MONDOCHITARRA]

@@VISKOMETAL_X eh ma io credo che invece siamo in tanti anche se non pare dalla majella alle alpi il metal vive

[@aly01123]

Omg when he was talking about sobbing at your favorite bands’ show. I feel that so much I remember when I finally got to see bands like deftones for the first time, so surreal. I even cried seeing brand new lol. But you could tell he truly feels the music of in flames when he spoke on em, choked him up a bit. 🥲💗 same Will, same.

[@SneezingEagle]

You've got my vote! Lorna shore are slaying it rn

[@kierenbuckley370]

Will comes off as the nicest guy alive

[@metal_concerts]

True

[@Mary-ev4ms]

I so don't want to see this guy get all cocky and full of himself. He's so cute and seems so full of life. I want to see more of that. Just bring honest

[@thekushgottome3807]

This album just doesn’t get old. It feels new every time I listen.

[@dwerggalago]

It's wonderful that Will is such a nice person and how Lorna Shore's music just keeps on evolving.

[@vxdra]

been a fan of this band for almost a decade, their evolution has been nothing short of remarkable and where many bands would have crumbled, they powered through and seemed to only get stronger. incredible album and musicians, they truly deserve their success

[@breanntheartist1989]

Will's clean vocals are pretty good too. I like his cover of Hypnosis by Sleep Token. I prefer it over the original.

[@isaiahperales8271]

It’s crazy because if you told high school me I’d love not only metalcore but deathcore as well I’d laugh in your face lol!, Will and the band made me a fan of deathcore after the album dropped! Excited to see what else I discover on my deathcore journey!

[@robmortimer4150]

A deserved winner. Love the different approach to this kind of genre

[@Therealprincess95]

I love symphonic metal. There's so much work that goes into it. It should be appreciated more.

[@devyn10111]

I haven't heard anybody else say they love sad music and I have been saying the same thing for years. Basically what I'm saying is me and will are the same person and I love him

[@hyperkeredbull9422]

Will please do a european tour! Saw you guys as support act for parkway drive in Amsterdam. PLEASE GIVE US A HEADLINE TOUR!!!

[@sike8156]

Whether you like deathcore or not it's becoming huge for a reason .. it's actually interesting and fresh which is something old metal genres lack .

[@NiRvAnA6890]

Yes chugga chugga breakdowns are interesting and fresh.

[@sike8156]

@@NiRvAnA6890 if that's all you noticed in their music you're just hating for no reason at this point 💀

[@rossmusic25]

Orchestra isn’t interesting anymore either man

[@AK-pt3wd]

I love deathcore, but it’s not fresh or interesting. It’s changed slightly since 2006, barely. Like they just added a ton of downbeat and breakdowns and subtracted the solos, and everyone started making false chord guttural animal noises. That’s about it.

[@f4llenhite955]

yeah bro breakdowns didn't exist before deathcore

[@chrisgramling9995]

Lorna shore is number 1 for me and will is top tier vocals imo, next to them I love worm shepard, signs of the swarm, brand of sacrifice, and lately synestia is feeding my metal addiction

[@twitchiewitch1]

Cursed To Die & Soulless Existence are both my heart, bomb ass songs that I'm obsessed with!!! I can't imagine it getting better than those 2 songs especially but I'm definitely along for the ride to see LS try!

[@desolationofficialdc]

Hell yes, you guys are a sick band 🔥🤘🏻

[@war_n_gore]

He has definitely got me back into the heavier music again or at least their band! I can't stop listening to the Pain remains album!

[@DonJuanDecepticon]

Keep improving the genre and change things up. Its real easy to be negative about things but that dosen't fix anything. Keep moving foward.

[@bradjarman8721]

Really hope you're able to make time to do a trip down under to Australia @Will. Would love to see you guys live!

[@erichoskinson795]

Will is Mr. "At the end of the day"

[@AlexanderUrdl1]

Pain remains is nothing short of a masterpiece if you ask me. They have truly transcended the genre with this one. Lets all hope they keep going like this!

[@summoningmoon4560]

Wow a lot of dudes that take themselves way too seriously in the comment section. Just let bands play what they want and people listen to what they want. It doesn't hurt you or your fine acquired taste in music.

[@janinepatagani5035]

I hope Lorna Shore comes here in the Philippines someday.. what I wouldn't give to see Will in real life he's so chill and makes you wanna be friends with him 😺

[@Anna_from_Hell]

I will sell my soul to buy tickets if they go here in manila fr. I'm obsessed with them specially with will and austin, their drummer.

[@ahmetrizafaruk]

Best Metal album in 2022

[@greygray6230]

For sure. Best metal album for the past three years. Last great metal album was Human Target by Thy Art

[@WHOREHAMMER_OFFICIAL]

Lamb of god omens is my fav but this is 4th on my list after a wake in providence: eternity Darko us Fit for a king

[@yourWronglol]

@@WHOREHAMMER_OFFICIAL darko us oni is my fav album this year

[@WHOREHAMMER_OFFICIAL]

@@yourWronglol its really good. Darko and ten56 are bringing new shit and i love em

[@craig3921]

nah Spire of Lazarus got that one my friend.

[@diefordethklok3711]

I fucking hated Deathcore. I was in NYC with my family and Lorna Shore was playing. My buddy was telling me Lorna Shore was good and I was on the fence. Broke and bought a ticket to have a night to myself. One of the best shows of the year. If you get a chance, see these guys.

[@rybo0072]

I enjoyed Lorna's new album but I just wished there was alittle bit more variety in the songs

[@VictorRobotov00]

I kinda backed into liking deathcore. Had no idea what it actually was until relatively recently. So it’s got it’s roots somewhere.

[@dennisellis3605]

I'm not a huge fan of a lot of death core. But there are some bands I really love and lorna shore is one of them

[@BlowUpTheOutsideWorld]

"You're like a happy good-looking dude!" Will is EXACTLY THAT!

[@carrieellis5081]

Amazing vocalist. Im very jealous of his hair

[@yarenestrada8253]

Hell yea man I love that ending. In flames is dope !!!

[@geovanaandradesoares1322]

I love Lorna so much

[@knotletis]

I’m not a fan of deathcore, but if this is the band pushing extreme music to new audiences and basically acting like spokespeople for heavy music, then I can’t complain at all

[@AlexGomez-iy3mf]

Please come to South Florida. I saw you guys in Tampa. It was worth the 4 hour drive🌻

[@moth.computer4209]

will is the one that got me into deathcore tbh.

[@mr.martyr8573]

Dudes just so humble. I know all the old, grumpy jerkoffs want to hate him, but damn is it hard. He’s a great dude with a great attitude.

[@rab46290]

Im the same way with writing while sad or depressed. I never write anything great when im sober, but ive had my sad poems published and ive written a few good songs, just the band i was in never went anywhere ie.. nobody wanted to practice.

[@johnnyturner9995]

I think that they should release a song where he sings also.

[@ericarenberg_]

Uuh, his hoodie is awesome.. wish someone knew from where it is 😩 and also, he's extremely charismatic and you just have to like him haha!

[@jenniferm8638]

I love him. ❤️

[@kevinkerekes]

Got hear them play Pain Remains I through III at the Theater of Living Arts in Philadelphia this year. Absolutely unreal. Any metal fan that hates on deathcore needs to see Lorna Shore in a live setting, and they will go home with their tails between their legs.

[@joshlynfuentes8450]

Pain remains is perfect!!!!

[@ninahansen4051]

It is!

[@Cold_Aspect]

i love will

[@ares_bliss]

Let's face it guys, Lorna Shore is the face and the future of Deathcore and they might and will be the reason why Gen Zs might and will listen to them

[@rev9737]

Deathcore can go wherever it wants at this point. Doesn't bother me when there's an infinite number of 90s death metal albums I haven't heard yet.

[@ares_bliss]

@@rev9737 my first Deathcore gateway band was Lorna Shore. And Lorna Shore will get more future generations to get into Deathcore

[@rev9737]

@@ares_bliss Who cares about the future generations when the quality of the music is becoming increasingly shit. And I'm still in High School so take it from me..

[@ares_bliss]

@@rev9737 bro, we are the same age

[@rev9737]

@@ares_bliss Crazy.

[@metallusmelandril7380]

Lollapaloza gonna be BLASTAPALOOZA

[@thelastdaybreathinginetern1385]

In FLAMES!!! I'm wearing my In Flames shirt right now.

[@Heavymetal16]

Didnt Adam the guitar player write the lyrics for the Pain remains songs? Graham was asking how he wrote such sad lyrics or something like that...

[@bluecrystalcandles2845]

Adam has said in the past that in his opinion the job of the vocalist is to write the lyrics and then sing them. He writes the music, and in the case of the Pain Remains Trilogy, wrote the screenplays for all three videos. Will writes the lyrics. Austin has said that Will gets feedback from Adam and others about the lyrics but does the heavy lifting of the lyric writing.

[@Heavymetal16]

@@bluecrystalcandles2845 ah i see! I thought adam wrote the LYRICS for the 3 pain remain songs..

[@CW19941]

It's all just Metal to me🤟🏻🤟🏻

[@delayedhome]

Such a brilliant mind

[@kenwayaiden4535]

lorna shore is the best, change my mind

[@AyyFuji]

Well, can say there’s definitely one hater here he’s converted. Not to say I ‘despised death metal’ or whatever, I listened to metal since I was 7, I know what it’s like, death metal was just too much to be my thing when I was a teenager (and obviously no one liked it that I knew, so that was a factor). But since I’ve rediscovered my love for metal, found a bunch of bands, and found an appreciation for Will’s unparalleled talent (imo), I regularly listen to some Lorna Shore. Mostly Hellfire, Nothingness, Suneater, and Pain Remains, but I’m into it a decent amount, thanks to this guy and his passion.

[@I-MonkMode]

This is great information

[@johnnyturner9995]

He said poopy. Love this dude lol

[@danielprice2743]

In my opinion, Will Ramos and Justin Bonitz, are the best vocalists out there right now.

[@traviscue2099]

My issue is Deathcore is mainly that a lot of breakdowns ruin the flow of really good songs. Dancing in Flames is an amazing song because its melodic/has great pacing/flows really well/great lyrics ect ect. It could be argued its a blackened melodic death metal track. I think they're a great band, but I much prefer their tracks without breakdowns.. Panteras breakdowns/slams whatever you want to call it work really well for me.. so perhaps its the heavier style with them that doesn't work.. Not sure.. but loving hearing each of their new tracks.

[@HailTheApocalypse]

I'm 50 yrs old and I've seen and been into a lot of metal bands that have come and go. And I see some of them that are still active (some should hang it up) and I'm still stuck in those eras. But after hearing Will's interviews, I pulled myself out of that a little. I actually heard Will's interviews before I even started to listen to Lorna Shore lol. I had heard of the band prior and started checking out their live shows first and was like meh. Death metal was apart of my listening to arsenal and other metal bands but never really cared for any 'core' bands. I tried and was like, this stuff is horrible. Gojira is one of my favorite bands and they had Lorna as one of their openers. So I checked out the To The Hellfire video and then I was hooked. I also got into some of these other 'core' bands. I guess an old dog can learn new tricks. Will and Adam are awesome dudes and wish them all the best in the world.

[@dennisellis3605]

I'm gen x and the tribalism was strong in my day. I'm sure we pushed this ideas on millennial. It is a new time! The blending of genres and breaking down of boundaries and younger generation being open minded is damn amazing! I'll always love my old school black and death metal but I'm loving bands like lorna shore, deafheaven, & zeal and ardor. Just make great music!

[@tomaszproblem.]

We need will in poland 😢

[@CalciferFireNonsenseGaming]

Shadow of Intent has black metal, death metal, metalcore, and deatcore inspiration but everyone likes the eboi that goes my paaaain ooooh my paaain hurts mmm it remains lmfao

[@KfuknBenz]

Melancholy is possibly my favorite album ever, but Elegy though great, just didn't quite hit that spot for me. Still makes most metal top 10 lists for the year, can't be mad at that .

[@tomatomtom4921]

"that was a good one, I'm not gonna lie" xDDD

[@rippingcorpse6667]

As a person who would call myself a “deathcore hater” I can say I like Lorna Shore, so he’s doing a great job.

[@HikaruCrystal8]

🖤

[@Bones12x2]

I wasnt reslly digging their style much st first... still don't love it.... But eveey interview I see with Will makes them likeable. He's a cool dude

[@darkboss219]

Imagine if lorna shore got to tour with sleep token, will would probably lose his mind lol, in a good way of course haha

[@DeathMetalRob]

I grew up with deicide, cannibal corpse,morbid angel, all the old masters. but i don't hate deathcore, i don't listen to a lot of it but i do like lorna and fit for an autopsy. Every generation has their thing, all the trad metal heads had the same complaints about death metal people have about deathcore now. it's ok, it's not for you but ya don't have to shit on it.

[@morbidcorpse5954]

Yup. I'm just like you pretty much. I listen to old school death and black metal. Around 2008/2009 deathcore came out. It was new but hit hard. Job for a Cowboy or Suicide Silence. I could hear the guitars and individual instruments. This new deathcore is very feminine, overproduced, and soft. Too much going on all at once.

[@DeathMetalRob]

@@morbidcorpse5954 I had the opposite problem,when it first came out it sounded to me like a bunch of guys who didn't know how to play. I do think the production today is overproduced but that is everybody from every genre. All these engineers think louder is better.

[@SeraphGamingYT]

will ramos gives me major gender envy

[@Cam-sd9lh]

GUAYYYYYYYY

[@vincentvalentine9231]

Dude just... \m/

[@RamonSludgecore]

Will clearing is throat because the demon within him is tryna speak😂 lol you know your place demon! You wait til the show!😂

[@camhopper]

I feel so lucky to exist in the era of Lorna Shore

[@DarkOracleOfDeath]

I love the openness to include elements from other genres, but not pop please. That would destroy the genre and the band and everything. We already have too much bass sampling and I've even seen Deathcore bands playing without a bassist altogether. Other than that, I'm all in for the inclusion of elements from other Metal genres: get a thrashy solo, black metal double bass/tremolo picking, etc. Also, I'd love to see the symphonic bits played live with either an orchestra or at least a keyboardist.

[@scrape559]

I don't think he meant pop PER SE, he was trying to express the focus on rounded production that fills in all frequencies in metal that has been a staple of pop music for generations. My take anyway

[@summoningmoon4560]

He was referring to song structure

[@chrisortiz8077]

The majority of modern metal has a pop song structure.

[@將軍英雄MILITARYHERO]

👍🤘😢🫂🥲🫂😭🙏🙌

[@BlowUpTheOutsideWorld]

No way this man said "poopy" 😂

[@prepperandson1399]

The hate with feathcore for me is all the sound effects and keyboard stuff not your singing

[@gregozymandias3799]

Nice haircut ! 😂

[@robertolanderos5308]

I only know one song and it’s the one where the vocalist violently sneezes

[@Mikegivesnofucks]

You mean the pig snorting? That's "To The Hellfire"

[@robertolanderos5308]

@@Mikegivesnofucks it sounds like a dude sneezing. He literally goes AAH AAHHHH AAAAAHHHH AAAHHHHHHH…sniff sniff…CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@janjg489]

@@robertolanderos5308 fuuck i think you ruined the song for me

[@spegynmerbles3993]

I can't stand deathcore and I seriously doubt my opinion would ever change. Sometimes music doesn't appeal to everyone

[@BassPlayer9000]

Why are you even here if you don't like the music? Just to hate?

[@scrape559]

@@BassPlayer9000 I don't see any hate in OP's comment. Care to highlight what part of his statement was hateful? It looked like his opinion which is just like, his opinion man. I love deathcore btw but if someone doesn't it doesn't hurt my feelings. You might need a prescription of some growaset

[@MotoXjunk]

I absolutely love the album but imo the trilogy is a bit over-rated