Losing Jon Rahm to LIV Golf would be a 'humongous' blow for PGA Tour | Golf Today | Golf Channel

[@mineshjogia9945]

Dude is still in denial. You guy are hilarious.

[@njosephg]

I love how these guys are talking about doing it for the love of the game, at this professional level its NOT a game, it's a business and this is what Jon just did, he did it for the business, for his family and possibly 5 generations of his family in the future if not more. Good for him. If the PGA wants to compete they have to innovate.

[@thomasesparza9175]

Only amateur golfers play for the "love of the game"...and maybe, to just get of the house, some exercise, or just to have fun with other guys!

[@millecinematics]

This the thing though he already got a lot of money the other thing is this it’s what he said seems hypocritical no matter how you look at it what he said in the past isn’t what he acted on

[@njosephg]

@@millecinematics lol There is no cap for the amount of money someone can have. Because at the end of the day it all stays here when ya go and someone else will have what you can't take with ya. He only seems hypocritical to people that son't understand business and the human condition.

[@millecinematics]

@@njosephg no the money I get that I mean you’re already a millionaire and you gonna get richer but it’s what he said that’s like dang which is crazy how we got to this point the only thing that liv has on the pga tour is money but that whole situation they trying to buy golf that’s all it is

[@njosephg]

Money talks and bullshit walks in business my man.@@millecinematics

[@Golfzilla5000]

what the heck do these guys mean when they say they don't like the "team golf" --- is that Ryder Cup and President's Cup something they hate? They sure don't act like it.

[@wallisdurham295]

Time for the Golf Channel to start hedging its bets. 🤔

[@larryverdugo3553]

Should’ve let them play wherever they wanted. Most of the guys play at least 25 or more tournaments a year. LIV doesn’t want to add more events so most players would still be playing 10 or more on the PGA.

[@TheTopend2]

people forget LIV/Norman reached out to teh PGA early door before LIV kicked off and Jay slammed the door in Gregs face.

[@Golfzilla5000]

The PGAT's greed (and maybe i should be more specific - Jay and his cronies' greed) is why this conflict is even a thing. Jay and co. are truly the only ones hurt by this, at least until he slinked around behind everybody's back and talked to the Saudis directly so he could make sure he continued to have his own personal cash flow.

[@langanct]

LIV and the Tour just need to make a deal. the entire sport has to be blown up and put back together at this point unfortunately because there is no going back. special events/venues with "legacy" need to be preserved and new LIV events need to be folded in. just make it happen so the fans can watch everyone play.

[@Waveydriver]

There is no deal now. Rahm just dropped the nuke

[@SOLDOZER]

Deal wont happen. Feds already calling it a monopoly.

[@Dinkslayer681]

​@@Waveydriverelaborate? One could argue he's the reason they will make a deal

[@Waveydriver]

@@Dinkslayer681 The real leverage the tour had was the “private investors” involved in the process. Now obviously the Saudi’s are not happy with the negotiation process if they’re still poaching players. It’s interesting also that they originally agreed to that clause in the first framework agreement. Now LIV just got the guy they’ve been recruiting away from the tour for two years. The guy who we all thought would never have a price. The guy who said money wouldn’t change his lifestyle and that he didn’t even like the format or shotgun start. The guy who Phil has said on multiple occasions didn’t have a reason to come to LIV. Now this price (along with the $300+ million) is likely going to come with changes to the format at Rahm’s request, potentially rules changing the OWGR’s stance. I don’t even think that part of it matters anyways. Him going to LIV just made every single other pga golfer second guess their decisions (outside of Rory/JT/Jordan/Scottie etc.) and will open the floodgates for guys to come over. What matters is at some point this is going to transcend the Saudi “blood money” narrative in the news for the American corporations and other investors looking to get in on LIV. Now that they have probably the biggest guy in golf, with Finau, Cantlay, and Xander to follow. And surely more to follow. I don’t think LIV really needs the tour anymore and I think this was finally the big drop. But I still will not believe this until Jon himself says it. It’s heartbreaking. Edit: And if I’m incorrect on the rule changes then Jon is a complete sell out and he will have to live with his words

[@Dinkslayer681]

@@Waveydriver they're not poaching players. Rahm was offered a deal when they first started. If you have a hall of fame career you might make 100 million in earnings over 25 years. They are making 300 million+ in 3 years. What idiot would turn that down

[@jowolf1979]

The boiling frog is an apologue describing a frog being slowly boiled alive. The premise is that if a frog is put suddenly into boiling water, it will jump out, but if the frog is put in tepid water which is then brought to a boil slowly, it will not perceive the danger and will be cooked to death. The story is often used as a metaphor for the inability or unwillingness of people to react to or be aware of sinister threats that arise gradually rather than suddenly.

[@MF-hd1tq]

I thought this was Ron Burgandy. 😮 Maybe Rory has a chance to win now. Then again he may keep chocking.

[@markushayes]

How can you call anything a “clown show” while keeping a straight face with that Ned Flanders mustache?

[@Marky_Muk]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@quadfan481]

That's the problem with Golf Channel. So Biassed with PGAT. But PGAT wants the PIF money.

[@Marky_Muk]

Next year they will broadcast all LIV events, Chamblee suicide incoming

[@aaronfullagar9767]

All guys on any Pro tour is playing for money. Yea they want to win tournaments but in reality all they do is try to make as much money as possible. It’s why they are also a walking billboard.

[@fatsiddog]

The PGA is a business only. Golf is a game. It is not owned by anyone. The players… also are not owned. The PGA thinks its owns everything golf related. They are about to learn a harsh lesson

[@craigmoy5428]

Legacy is not just playing in the US of A. Seve, Jack, Arnie, Norman and Player played all over the world to grow the game, PGAT is a single market and that commitment is what will kill PGAT, the world wants the game back.

[@chevy4x466]

Yup, the future is developing the game worldwide. Keep the great pga tour events, add humongous international events

[@craigmoy5428]

@@chevy4x466 Agree, 30-50% of the worlds biggest events will always be in the USA, but to succeed as a sport it needs to give profile to the star international players and markets, it will also lift the $$$$'s ultimately available to the stars.

[@chevy4x466]

@@craigmoy5428 ya, well that is the beauty of formula one. They bring their event to these exciting international markets and make that venue the center of the sport with all their stars for a weekend. Golf is in a similar advantage were they can put huge events on in Asia , and Australia….

[@garyjohnson4789]

Legacy ani't gonna pay you $600 million.

[@chrisconner2981]

I love watching you all doing mental gymnastics to try to convince the viewers that LIV isn't kicking in the teeth of the PGA. Pride goes before the fall. - Proverbs 16:18

[@discr1709]

Nothing can compete with the PIF. They are taking over other global sports as well. A strange thing to be happy about.

[@Noeau]

LIV money is not reality? Wow, his thinking is out of touch and not living in reality. Go ask the top Liv players about that.

[@chevy4x466]

Truthfully, the pga tour is not reality compared to other sport league compensation whether it be nba, premier league, formula one or mlb. The professional golfer has to sacrifice cuz the pga tour is too incompetent to generate proper revenue is backward thinking and manipulation.

[@discr1709]

It’s simple, LIV is paying golfers more than they are worth in order to disrupt global golf so the PIF can acquire majority influence, like they are doing in other global sports arenas.

[@stevepierce1238]

JW comments do not show an in depth understanding of the LIV business model. Rahm is going for equity in a team and the PGA cannot provide it. If anything the PGA business model as a non profit is not sustainable. No major is going to garner an audience with 3 players of any stature trading wins in the next 3-5 years. The majors will soon no longer pay attention to the PGA and go their own way. Note the Rahm deal precedes the merger deadline. This was done to mute any counter deals negotiated by the PGA. I think they call this brinkmanship. In poker LIV is calling the PGA hand. If Rahm does join LIV look for more later. The PGA is soon to be in a position whereby LIV will have more say in operations whether they like it or not. If I were the OWGR staff, I would be updating my resume. LIV will be assigned sedes like in Tennis in lieu of ranking points as a go around. Old saying is "follow the money" and it won't be speculation anymore. Guys, the PGA is a 501(c)3 and does not issue stock so cannot sell equity. It is that simple.

[@collllllll]

03:19 Denial at it's best

[@gilbertlui820]

It’s all thanks to jay for going behind the players back and you golf media , let’s see how you spin it this time, now the pga is a feeder for liv.

[@chevy4x466]

Really to me it is bigotry. They could have worked with liv. Worked out some sort of franchise type of deal. Or make the sleepy winter months international liv events. The could have done something to save the structure of the pga tour as we knew it. But they seemed to hang their hat on associating liv golf to every problem in Saudi Arabia. The pga tour came off to bigots to me.

[@jaretzaslow1449]

Breaking news. Johnson Wagner’s moustache has just joined LIV

[@toddtrent1973]

Poor Johnson 😂 He is not living in the real world. Good for him trying to stay positive. 😂

[@LegolasFan69]

No he’s not. Must be nice for him to live in a world where money doesn’t matter 😂

[@golfista37]

Losing arguably most electric player to LIV is huge setback and will open door for mad rush for LIV

[@YoMommasFavD]

Nah.. doubt it. Anyways you ever watch a LIV event on the WB? It's jus like the WB.. horrible.

[@Labgorilla]

The PGA tour do not own golf. They have to come to the table with LIV , or else they will be beaten into a pulp. They simply cannot compete going forward. JM has been a disaster in trying to play all sides. Managers like that get removed. And don’t forget the big announcement. Callaway golf will move over with him. They will continue their sponsorship into the LIV tour. That is enormous. I repeat, the PGA tour does not own the game.

[@AmitRay47]

USGA, OWGR, and R&A can make a ruling that the present system of 4 day 72 hole competition structure will remain. Major championships should also add OWGR will also be considered instead of flat out entry of the Major winners after two years of winning a Major.

[@welcomebackpotter722]

Golfers are independent contractors guys, they can play where ever they want

[@whitewhale-gq2kc]

This guy is so defensive to the point of being delusional

[@Marky_Muk]

Scotty needs to go right now! Get the last team

[@chuckycheese84]

As a golf fan of 31 years, I strongly approve of Jon's LIV move

[@MRide3000]

As a gold fan of 40 years; I think morbid obesity has clogged your brain. Golf is dying and you animals are celebrating like it’s a game

[@MLMfraser]

Sorry but no one especially a professional golfer need $500 Million, and definitely none of them deserve it. Professional Golf will die in the years to come and it will be because of those that joined LiV, greed kills things and it will do so here as well.

[@mikegruber172]

why is it a clown show? They have the $$$ and they want to spent it. Wagner sounds Jealous because he is making around $100,000 to be on Golf Channel

[@alexsamain812]

He is jealous because he has 2 last names

[@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656]

They might as well be saying whaaa whaaa whaaaa

[@davejohn255]

Makes no difference to me if he leaves. I like him but not enough to care. All my favorite players are American or Canadian.

[@Abtrossi]

He has also american passport

[@SOLDOZER]

He's the biggest name in the sport behind Tiger and Rory. Its a MASSIVE blow to PGA Tour.

[@davejohn255]

@@SOLDOZER it won't affect the viewership in the US at all. Plus they all play the majors anyway... Neither Rory nor rahm we're at the hero... And it had some of its highest ratings in years.

[@ryantout9858]

Made me to pag needs to think outside America Liv has got a high regard everywhere else you can’t just play in America,

[@prestonbacchus4204]

Jon is a good player, fun to watch, a top five guy even, but he is not a dominant player. The PGA started by Arnie and Jack will survive. Jon will lose more fans than he gains I would wager.

[@alexsamain812]

Judge these guys by what they do on the course and nothing else. Who cares about the rest, as long as it's not too damaging. He lied about his intentions, is that so evil ? We all love Tiger despite him being a sex and drug addict off the course. Who cares just enjoy the game and not the politics.

[@prestonbacchus4204]

The money the LIV players are getting has nothing to do with golf. @@alexsamain812

[@williamfickett177]

Rahm would not turn down 600 million and to say thet his love for the game would over rides that is crazy. He will not turn that kind of cash down. LIV & PGA need to come to an understanding, that's pretty obvious.

[@MSDOGS1976]

Monohan needs to be booted. He brings nothing to the tour at this point. As far as the stars leaving I don't really care. If the entire PGA tour members left for LIV I don't care. I could watch the Korn Ferry tour and be happy as they play good golf too. I don't turn on a weekly PGA tour event to watch Jon Rahm. I just want to watch good golf. I'm sure I'm in the minority tho.

[@mikegruber172]

1968 Jack Nicklaus created a new Tour THE PGA TOUR. This is the same thing.

[@discr1709]

It’s not remotely the same.

[@vincesteer7960]

PGA tour GREED is at fault that this has come to, monopolising golf exclusively in US and forever promoting Tiger at expense of other players. PGA did not listen to player concerns, that is why those individuals starting with Phil departed to LIV.

[@Information_system1983]

will be missed in PGA tour !!

[@Blacklist324]

Don't think Liv won't go to 72 holes.

[@scott21784]

pga doesn't want to split money with golf LIV

[@robertsaladino]

What are the issues with the PGA and players ? I'm a casual fan....

[@collllllll]

Rory, take the money while it's still available otherwise you'll regret it.

[@JeffreyCharlie]

Soccer now golf

[@discr1709]

And formula 1, and boxing, etc., etc. But hey, let’s blame the PGA.

[@MLMfraser]

When LiV and the PGA said they would join, was when professional golf was done for me, honestly it's only about the money now, and it's destroyed it all for me personally, haven't watched since and haven't missed it.

[@brad-suzetteeickman1121]

Yeah, the players on the PGA don't play for money...right.

[@justaguycommenting]

Nice to hear from Ted Lasso on this 😂

[@renelsilverio4965]

JEALOUS? Golf channel are haters! Are we a communist country? everybody has the right to change company. Just be happy with the man. Congrats Jon Rahm!

[@eduardoescoto8048]

Not about competition anymore .all about the money

[@alexsamain812]

The majors are the only events that bring the best from the world together. Nothing changes

[@SOLDOZER]

I doubt you go to work every day for the pride.

[@chezchezchezchez]

2:18 have you heard from Jon Rahm, himself, yet? 😂😂

[@SOLDOZER]

Jay Monahan needs to resign. He created this hostile "Us vs Them" atmosphere and things are going very bad for the PGA Tour.

[@discr1709]

This narrative is ridiculous. What created this division is a country’s massive wealth. If it was like any normal startup, with budget restrictions and a need to turn a profit after 3-5 years it wouldn’t stand a chance.

[@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656]

And it was all predictable by any competent business man.

[@steveperalta3063]

There will come a time when the money just runs out. And who's realistically paying for these enormous contracts? Us. Regular fans. It will be passed on to us at some level. You can't just print money. It has to be made. And the fans are ultimately the customers that will have to bear this. In today's economy and in the future.

[@chevy4x466]

It will run out when the oil wells run dry, not in our lifetime

[@discr1709]

You clearly don’t know much about the PIF. LIV isn’t meant to make money, it’s designed to fracture golf so one country can become the major decision maker.

[@jettrink7510]

Good... I don't watch LIV golf anyway.

[@SwayPromo]

Hahaha 13 minutes ago just confirmed! Annoyed by LIV

[@dereckguilfoyle1219]

LIV is great for world golf,pgatour is a monopoly

[@chas1765]

Lol should I play against dj brooks Bryson or pga lolz

[@YoMommasFavD]

No huge deal.. who cares? LIV golf sucks

[@MF-hd1tq]

You’re right, nobody cares. I think it’s nice the PGA farm system can develop players for LIV. 😂😂 PGA has become a joke.

[@YoMommasFavD]

@MF-hd1tq say what? You seriously think on a Sunday real golf fans are going to watch a LIV event over PGA? Ain't happin bud. LIV feels like some kinda amateur free for all with the teams all that bs.

[@mattstout856]

Wake up guys, all paths lead to both tours. With the merger, they can easily have both….

[@SOLDOZER]

There wont be a merger.

[@chrisholten460]

They’re all playing for money .

[@SOLDOZER]

Dont you go to work for money?

[@c0mbat15]

Golf's probably dead anyway so the players may as well make hay while the Saudi sun shines.

[@darin1969]

The truth is that the players are becoming more and more greedy for money. There is almost zero honour and loyalty to the fans, game...The players crossing over to LIV always say they are doing it for themselves and their family. You insult our intelligence when you say this. Anyway no one believes this garbage. It's all about money. When you get young guys saying they like the LIV format, which Ernie Els right called circus golf, then these players are definitely clowns. The more these guys earn the more the insatiable lust and greed for more money! Also disturbing is that commentators and fellow players cannot call out the defectors to LIV! Barring one or two players like Ernie Els, Fred Couples... most sit on the fence as can be seen in this interview and the one done with Rose and Day. The sport is no longer about the fans. Greed rules!

[@thomasjoseph3488]

Oops.

[@SwayPromo]

In other words…. You want guys to believe that giving up hundreds of millions of dollars is worth It so they can win torey pynes 😂 complete idiots only believe that…..

[@jmad4it258]

I guess when you have your nose up Rory and tigers ass you can’t see who is cleaning your tour .theres a lot more guys going so don’t hate on Jon ,he finally made the right choice for him. Big fish eats little fish boys.looks like this big fish is still hungry and hunting.

[@ericusdaniel7890]

Ghoney

[@jimzanios3260]

Why? We have plenty of good American players. Sell out!!

[@parkermedarb]

You people don’t live in the ‘real world’…nobody cares about Rahm…or any of the rest of you that are playing a “game” for an ABSURD living. Get a a ‘grip’…

[@Debidawg]

I love watching Jon but it won’t be humongous..PGA will continue and Rahm will be another greedy exhibition golfer, which will mean nothing IRL

[@SOLDOZER]

You think losing 3rd biggest name is the sport is not a big deal?? LOL

[@TonyToning-ne7uq]

Many many many millions to capture Rambo !! LIV's going from strength to strength

[@discr1709]

You’re happy about a COUNTRY’S investment fund taking over golf?

[@prestonbacchus4204]

It would upset his fans, for sure.

[@ducati916SPS]

Pink Floyd...."Money is the route of all evil"

[@WinstonSmith24]

I’m sure Pink Floyd played concerts for free 🙄

[@ericusdaniel7890]

True

[@travishimself1973]

Ron Burgundy got it wrong about the team golf. Rahm just said it's one of the reasons he moved to LIV.

[@christophermeggison2986]

Cope

[@jadesmith6823]

Norman wins again

[@Marky_Muk]

First major victory on US soil

[@squidlesfiddles]

FIRE JOHNSON WAGNER!! HE IS IN FAVOR OF SHRINKING THE GAME OF GOLF!!!

[@squidlesfiddles]

FIRE RICH LERNER!! HE IS IN FAVOR OF SHRINKING THE GAME OF GOLF!!!

[@robl7559]

The END is near for the PGA Tour it’s just a matter of time. Circle of the Sport and what goes around comes around. More will likely follow. Let’s be reminded that GOLF greats like Jack Nicklaus, Gary Player, Arnold Palmer, Lee Trevino and their other mates who way back then played tournaments under the PGA of America (founded in 1916) in 1960 began the process of breaking away and in 1975 the organization they created achieved full independence from the PGA of America and was named the "PGA Tour." The coming of LIV Golf is no different … In reality PGA tour is a SUNSET tour. Changing of the Guards !!

[@chevy4x466]

Well that’s right. The pga tour had their touring pros traveling 40 weeks a year to get by. Lee, jack, Gary, Arnold had anomosity towards the pga tour at times. The idea that the current administers r using the legacy of these legends to defend their house of cards is disturbing but not surprising