Losing - PAX West 2022

Winning is good, and losing is bad. We strive to win, and this is the basis for most of the games we play. Challenges are binary: we either overcome them, advancing the story, or fail, and must try again. But, what if we were to toss this conventional wisdom aside? Do we really only have fun when we win? Have you ever had that moment in a game where epic and total failure was the most memorable part? What kinds of games would arise if we strove to make losing, instead of winning, the point?
Presented at PAX West 2022 on Sunday, Sept 4th, 12:30pm PT in the Sasquatch Theatre (Sheraton, Level 2) by GeekNights:
frontrowcrew.com/
Presenters:
Rym DeCoster (Producer, GeekNights
Emily Compton (Animator, Cygnus Entertainment)
Slides:
docs.google.co...

[@maliciouscompliance6489]

There's a criminal lack of views here. Righteous work, mate.

[@dirtywhitellama]

Regarding the fine line between "I want to get better" and ragequitting, I experienced this for myself with Metroid Dread. Physical discomfort can actually be a major factor. Playing with the stock joycons? Ragequit Kraid, because my hands just ached from trying to make things work; I knew how the fight was supposed to work but just couldn't get my hands (and the controls) to cooperate. Bought a pro controller and gave it another try and it was an entirely different experience. That probably hits on the difficulty curve question. Challenges can be fun if you have the sense it's possible to improve enough to overcome them. They're just frustrating and painful if it seems hopeless.

[@ProgShell]

Not hearing “and IIIIIIII’m Scott” after “IIIIII’m Rym” is genuinely offputting haha

[@GeekNightsRym]

Lol we cut the intro out since there are like 60 videos with that bit. I might upload the pre-panel conversation and the kickoff as a separate video if people are interested

[@darianp9930]

Are you going to finish Utena review?

[@GeekNightsRym]

Blame youtube copyright enforcement. Almost every Utena video has caused copyright strikes and hassles. Frankly we're lucky the ones we already made are available at all. We have stopped making anime-related content on youtube because of this.

[@Shtototamm]

@@GeekNightsRym Maybe you can upload a video about Utena by inserting only a photo. Your analysis is amazing.

[@Furore2323]

This good.

[@eastlynburkholder3559]

Life itself is about slowly losing because all mammals die and age and lose function before that death usually. Games involve losing

[@Furore2323]

:O