Lossless Scaling Frame Generation - Test in Low End Laptop

[@teknogameid]

MSI Afterburner WONT accurately measure FPS in ANY games with Lossless Scaling Frame Generation I found better frame motion in god of war and marvel's spider-man with LL FG but the fps still remain same/slight difference as native resolution on MSI Afterburner FPS measurement. Use built in FPS counter on Lossless Scaling to get real FPS with frame generation. I'm sorry maybe I have used LSFG with wrong/ineffective steps and settings, maybe you have better settings than me, you can share in the comment.

[@mikethespike056]

"may not accurately measure FPS in *some* games" This is wrong. Let me correct it. "MSI Afterburner WONT accurately measure FPS in ANY games with Lossless Scaling Frame Generation." Your video is, unfortunately, useless.

[@teknogameid]

​@@mikethespike056 sorry I'm not from english country

[@mikethespike056]

@@teknogameid that's okay. if you want more info, Afterburner gives you the real FPS, and Lossless Scaling doubles them. so if afterburner says 60, you are getting 120 with frame generation... assuming you have a 120 Hz monitor.

[@harcherboy]

bros cpu is just chillin while his gpu rn is being tortured by the gpu drivers cartel

[@tomars3645]

Hahahaha good comment man idk why it doesn't have more likes.

[@HUNK_TZ]

Feels like magic doesn't it? XD (as soon as they atleast decrease the ghosting it will be perfect)

[@Dregomz02]

biggest problem is the ui and i wouldn't use it on anything under 30fps

[@HUNK_TZ]

@@Dregomz02 well it is made mostly for 30 to 60 or 60 to 120

[@dun8632]

The ghosting can't be fixed unless they add some more overhead to the program, and either way ghosting mostly fixes itself by being at or above above a base framerate of 45fps.

[@HUNK_TZ]

@@dun8632 Interesting I have LG Smart Tv and the ghosting is almost completely fixed or atleast VERY reduced

[@swordman2390]

what the hell is ghosting anyway? ive tried it and to use it more efficient you need a decent graphics card

[@GeorgePinkFloyd]

put this poor pc to rest 😭😭😭

[@reinaldo1504]

😂😂😂😂

[@erikmendesgames9654]

Kkkkkkkk

[@elissaidjer1784]

lol

[@Bananamann]

Thank you for another banger George Pink Floyd

[@hpsgamerzoid580]

brother it is recommended to lock the frame rate to a steady number where it dosent fluctuate for a better experience, btw keep it up, great work 👍👍

[@teknogameid]

yes bro, LSFG will run optimal in locked 30 fps framerate to get decent 60 fps but I tested on weak hardware, some games can't reach 30 fps pr even 20 fps

[@hpsgamerzoid580]

@@teknogameid 👍💯

[@ZirTech0]

NO WAY THANKS FOR INCLUDING SOME GAME LIKE FEARS TO FATHOM!!

[@TheSussiestGuy]

Bro, if you can run GTA V mid res at 40 fps, your pc isn't low-end

[@teknogameid]

I get 30 fps on GTA V, 24 fps on crowd city, 45 fps on mountain. 720p normal settings

[@KangPresetGabut]

wdym gta v is a well optimized games😂 even i5 gen 4 can handle it

[@yourname7254]

Mouse cursor disappears playing minecraft java opening inventory or crafting table even opening the pause screen 😭

[@Jakiyyyyy]

This is actually very weird because I tried in GTA V and the software keep crashing and closing itself. Basically in any games. It dozen scale the game window whatsoever but instead decided to just close itself. What do?

[@teknogameid]

Idk, maybe GTA V doesn't support/allow lower than 540p or 480p resolution with LSFG? which in other games I can use this LSFG to 360p (from native 720p) or 2x scaling factor than native resolution.

[@Jakiyyyyy]

@@teknogameid Not sure what really happening. I tried with GTA V and World War Z. The software just close itself no matter if it LS only or LSFG. The game is set on 1080p baidewei. I think the new update is broken. Prolly because still in beta.

[@skeerr6571]

@@Jakiyyyyy click the scale button and open your game

[@rangemango]

​@@JakiyyyyyYour capture needs to be wgc

[@lucky_tech1707]

@@Jakiyyyyy had the same problem. I was downloading it by ghost spectre try the latest version it would work. Had the same problem

[@AaravJamwal1]

Bro turn on fps meter in lossless then it will display correct fps

[@teknogameid]

yes bro, that was my mistake, I also put that to the pinned comment

[@kyledupont7711]

The way you are using it is trying to boost a tanking framerate which is really not ideal. You will have much better results if you get the game running at a rock solid 30fps and then turn it on. It has a performance penalty, you dont want it slowing your game down even more and then trying to boost that framerate, i explained it the best i could lol

[@platinummexican9672]

If you can get a solid and I mean solid 40fps with whatever setting you want then turn this on lattency is not an issue I ran hogwarts at 40fps with everything set to ultra even rtx at 1440p and oooo it was nice

[@kyledupont7711]

@@platinummexican9672 yeah that's the way to do it, you should be limiting your framerate to something you can maintain then turn it on. if your struggling to maintain 20 fps it's not going to double your framerate if you have a solid 30 you should get a solid 60 with it on

[@kyledupont7711]

@@platinummexican9672 Im having the best results with it using it to boost 30fps emulators to 60 and holy crap it works wonders for that, some games even have no artifacting Luigi's Mansion on Gamecube is one of them. Its so smooth I even boosted 2d games Like Super Mario World, its crazy to see that running at 120fps, 2d games don't seem to have the artifacting at all

[@kingwalz]

thing is, it's only doubling it right, so 40 goes to 80? @@platinummexican9672

[@blasthammer4158]

What if I can get a consistent 20? Will I atleast get a solid 40 with this?

[@VitorChBenchmarkAGameplays]

Why my msi afterburner don't show the fps from fame generation? Only show the previous fps.

[@teknogameid]

previous fps? did you mean no fps change but with smoother motion? I'm getting same problem, I'd feel better motion but the fps remain same as without frame generation.

[@RyzenZegend]

It's on the app if you want to show the FPS.

[@VitorChBenchmarkAGameplays]

@@teknogameid yes

[@Big_Daddy953]

@@teknogameidyou have to select "draw FPS" on the right side in the app to see Real FPS count with frame generstion

[@teknogameid]

@@Big_Daddy953 yes, I was didn't know if msi afterburner not accurately show fps in some games and this app has built in fps counter.

[@EfeDursun125]

use ls1 instead of fsr, its faster

[@mohamadredzwan6628]

Yes it smoother but as far as I know the ghosting is real bad on LS1 On the other scaling that I test so far it better to go for FSR for near to no ghosting (or simple just no scaling at all), bicas cas is for upscaling and FG that goes well together with low specs like actual low specs like AMD Vega 10 graphics lvl (expect a lot of ghosting and not so smooth frame gen).

[@Trouxasso]

You did not show your lossless scaling configuration :(

[@teknogameid]

0:12 the lossless scaling config

[@ananderraadelaizmuzhafar]

Menurut abang worth it ga buat dibeli? Takut rugi aja wkwk Dan itu versi terbaru (paling update/update terakhir) apa versi lama? Gwe make r5 7640hs sama rtx 3050 6gb, pgn aja main game triple A 100fps gitu

[@teknogameid]

kurang woth it bang, hasilnya kurang konsisten buat beberapa game, kadang ada yang gabisa discale. kalo mau nyoba mending versi lama nya aja yang masih lock 60 fps

[@BlueVoxeel]

Resident evil ran like a charm

[@lazzygamerz2812]

What's your opinion about this ? And can i get the lossless scalling for free i mean you know from where 😅 does it gonna effect on performance or just work like the original ls

[@teknogameid]

I recommend to use ls 2.5 for low end pc/laptop, I get the older version of ls from repack games website. lossless scaling frame generation can double the fps, effective from 30 fps native to 60 generated fps, this app doesn't improve input lag and any games would not work.

[@lazzygamerz2812]

@@teknogameid you mean version 2.5 beta is good for low end pc

[@teknogameid]

@@lazzygamerz2812 yes, I'm still using that version because the fps target still 60 fps. and frame ghosting is still visible if the original/native fps is not stable at 30 fps

[@gnrtx-36969]

Nah use the latest scaling older ones are not good Also keep in mind you can only scale GTA v to 1.3 if you have 768p monitor 1080p=1.8

[@skyunn]

Hey i've installed lossless scaling on my laptop but it has a lot of artifacts, could you maybe make a guide?

[@teknogameid]

unstable fps caused lot of artifacts, the solution = use on stable 30 fps like emulator games which locked 30 fps.

[@gamersaurus2766]

Hi when i click upscale the window of the game doesn't go to full-screen. Any tip?

[@teknogameid]

enable resize before scaling on lossless scaling setting, and use 2 scale factor here's my settings: scaling mode = custom scale factor = 2 resize before scaling = enabled scaling type = AMD FSR frame generation = LSFI clip cursor = enabled draw fps = enabled another option still in default

[@gamersaurus2766]

@@teknogameid thanks

[@gamersaurus2766]

@@teknogameid when I use draw fps no fps metre comes up

[@teknogameid]

@@gamersaurus2766 it's on top right of the screen, small font size

[@agentfauna]

Maybe you should change to ''wgc'' instead of ''dxgi''.

[@Deathdemon65]

Use a controller it's gonna be way better then keyboard and mouse with regard to input lah

[@DigiWorld_WB]

i have i3 12th gen cpu and 8gb ram will i get same or better performance?

[@teknogameid]

better performance

[@TurahDope]

saya nyoba berbagai game pakai lossless scaling hasilnya semuanya ngedrop fps bang sama kerasa banget input lagnya

[@teknogameid]

versi berapa bang, versi baru kurang smooth hasilnya itulah kenapa saya masih pake 2.5.0.1 soal input lag memang itu karena frame interpolation/frame generation, jadi ngga cocok buat game fast paced atau shooter

[@Vaelorin]

it does work but when you see it perfoming on marvel spiderman and god of war the darn thing really struggles a lot unfortunately damn lol

[@electronicprograms4389]

İs amd 3200u support fsr3 frame genration?

[@teknogameid]

yes, vega series do support fsr3 frame generation depending by the game support or with mod, you can check on google for fsr3 supported games. I have tried 3200u on forspoken game with fsr3 frame generation, but the impact is not positive due to weak integrated vega 3 gpu.

[@rudoneger]

why cant u put fullscreen? is it cuz it is laptop?

[@teknogameid]

yes, it's a laptop lossless scaling work on windowed or borderless window mode, then it scales to fullscreen

[@headshunter7172]

Fps seems 50 but gameplay doesn't feels like it

[@teknogameid]

it feels not really 50-60 fps and most likely unstable al least the motion smoothness is better than native fps

[@Mu_Ojii]

Ajaib & OP sih ini aplikasi,, 😂 gua aja smp kaget, iseng2 coba pake main di CP 2077,, awalnya cuma dpt 40an fps, ps udh pake berasa smooth 60 fps, walaupun ttp 40an fps,, jd dia kya ngilangin suttering / kya manipulasi fps gt,, WORTH IT banget !!!

[@Asurasoraka]

Tutorialnya dong bang

[@TapirLiar]

Speknya apaan bang

[@Mu_Ojii]

@@TapirLiar Cuma pake R5 3600 & GTX 1060 3gb, RAM 16gb, cuma mmg gua mainya di 720p, krn monitor adanya msh itu,,

[@Mu_Ojii]

@@Asurasoraka Setting di RivaTunner : Gua limit fps jadi 30fps, krn gua main game rata2 frame low nya di 30-40fps an jd gua ambil di 30 fps aja, ntr kalo udh pake lossless jd 2 kali lipat 60fps & gua slalu aktifin Vsycn nya Setting di Lossless nya: Scaling mode : Auto & fullscreen Scaling Type : gua OFF in / boleh pake FRS/LS1 Frame Generation : LSFG 2.1, Mode 2X, Clip cursor, Adjust cursor speed, draw fps, legacy window mode Udah ntr kalo gamenya udh running tinggal pencet Scale & 5 detik kemudian dia berubah Atau kalo bingung tonton youtube ini : Lossless scaling v2.9 - How to optimize settings for GOT and ingame settings

[@Mu_Ojii]

@@Asurasoraka Setting di RivaTunner : Gua limit fps jadi 30fps, krn gua main game rata2 frame low nya di 30-40fps an jd gua ambil di 30 fps aja, ntr kalo udh pake lossless jd 2 kali lipat 60fps & gua slalu aktifin Vsycn nya Setting di Lossless nya: Scaling mode : Auto & fullscreen Scaling Type : gua OFF in / boleh pake FRS/LS1 Frame Generation : LSFG 2.1, Mode 2X, Clip cursor, Adjust cursor speed, draw fps, legacy window mode Udah ntr kalo gamenya udh running tinggal pencet Scale & 5 detik kemudian dia berubah

[@bhrisdamann64]

them temps look crazyyyyyyyy

[@ngabdes]

kalo ryzen 3 7320u amd radeon 610m bisa kah bang? apakah ini berdampak buruk ke lifecycle cpu? mohon penjelasannya bg thanks

[@teknogameid]

bisa bang, ga berdampak apapun ke hardware (hardware tetap berjalan secara default) apk ini bekerja dengan upscaling seperti amd fsr, tapi bisa digunakan di game yg tdk support fsr.

[@hikarishou9082]

@@teknogameid Bang kalo gtx 660 support fsr kah? soalnya main di genshin impact bisa pake fsr 2 tapi kalo di game lain fsr nya engga ada

[@teknogameid]

@@hikarishou9082 harusnya di semua gpu termasuk intel support selama gpu nya masih bisa running gamenya, di game lain contohnya game apa? soalnya dibeberapa game ada yang harus update dulu versi gamenya baru muncul fsr nya.

[@Jarare.z]

Njir channel indo rupanya

[@AaravJamwal1]

bro what is the difference between fsr 3 mods available online in which we have to paste files in the main directory of the game and the tool you used.

[@teknogameid]

the difference is the ease of use and image quality this tool is easy to use and wider games support, but some games not effective with this tool fsr3 mod still better for image quality and effectivity

[@danielsr.jhahaha6476]

you are using it wrong

[@teknogameid]

So, what is the correct way?

[@teknogameid]

maybe I just new for this app, and not exploring deeply yet and everyone have their own best setting

[@xlokiyt]

@@teknogameidfirst test native 1080p and then go lowest possible resolution borderless/windowed and start scaling

[@teknogameid]

@@xlokiyt my laptop only has built in monitor with 1366x768. I also test in windowed mode.

[@teknogameid]

​@@xlokiyt btw thanks for the suggestion

[@zntttttru]

bang kok ane pake ls stiap nyalain frame generation nya malah kaya slowmo ya game nya trus malah tambah ngelag

[@teknogameid]

game apa bang? tiap game hasilnya beda2 umumnya kalo fps native nya dibawah 25 hasilnya nambah ngelag dan slowmo

[@zntttttru]

@@teknogameid resident evil 2 remake dari 30 ttp 30 fps malah kalo pake lsfg jatuhnya kaya slowmo gt bang

[@teknogameid]

@@zntttttru iya bang, lebih tepatnya banyak frame ghosting nya ditambah input lag nya masih sama jadi kerasa slow mo dan input kerasa lemot. yang berubah cuman kemulusan framnenya aja itupun ga stabil dan banyak ghosting. cocoknya buat game2 yang ngelock 30 fps stabil.

[@Nightek1]

03:14 cpu 26%, 04:18 cpu 80%

[@diego-di4ww]

But game gone from unplayable to playable

[@Scrollplay_]

I use lossless to play minecraft bedrok with 100 mods and RTX ultra i lock the frame to 30 fps and lossless turns to 60 fps xd

[@teknogameid]

:)

[@Mekoo420]

why dont i have fg on my lossless scaling

[@teknogameid]

make sure you have same version of my lossless scaling 2.5.0.2

[@fuadismayl3408]

This app not worked to me

[@teknogameid]

I use older version of this app, new version not good for low spec pc (target 60 fps with native 25-30 fps) and probably the game did you play does not support scaling integer. List of not working games: Assassins Creed Odyssey Assassins Creed Valhalla Fallout 4 GTA V Monster Hunter Rise Red Dead Redemption 2 No Man's Sky Age of Empires III DE

[@fuadismayl3408]

@@teknogameid i am using asus tuf gaming laptop, Can this program work well on gaming laptops?

[@AriSopiandi-lz9oo]

Jadi ini worth it ga bang? Kek tetep ngelag liatnya

[@teknogameid]

kalo fps nya ngga stabil 30 bakalan tetep ngelag dan kualitas gambar turun, cuman lebih smooth aja ini harusnya lumayab worth it buat emulator yang ngelock 30 fps stabil, di game pc yg fps nya naik turun memang kurang optimal hasilnya.

[@yosukerechain2000]

Why GTAv and Gow not get it...

[@teknogameid]

gta v error "failed to resize resolution" on lossless scaling, some rockstar games have similar issue on lossless scaling. gow is working with lsfg, but msi afterburner fps counter is not accurate for lsfg, use built in lossless scaling fps counter to get accurate fps reading.

[@firsyad827]

clip cursor kenapa harus nyala bang?

[@teknogameid]

biar cursornya ga keluar dari window game bang

[@defandrarifky7]

kalo gua monitor 165hz cara pakenya gimana?

[@teknogameid]

cara pake nya bisa disamakan seperti video, cuman di video itu skenarionya pake laptop kentang buat liat apakah game yg tadinya ga playable bisa playable pake LSFG. atau mungkin ada cara yang lebih efektif dari video diatas, soalnya itu pake settingan default dari aplikasi nya. tergantung kemampuan cpu dan gpu nya, kalo gpu nya kelas low-mid kayanya ga sampe 165 fps dan 165 hz buat game2 tertentu, sbg contoh gtx 1060 6gb + ryzen 5 1600 buat cyberpunk 2077 jelas ga akan nyampe 165 fps 165hz walaupun pake LSFG, tapi tetap masih bisa nambah fps dgn kualitas gambar turun.

[@defandrarifky7]

@@teknogameid i5 12400f + RTX 2070 misalnya, itu kan bisa cap di 60an fps jadi di locknya di 60 aja kan?

[@NoFallTR]

Even the so-called low end laptop is better than my old computer... It had a 9800 GT :/

[@gnrtx-36969]

Man that thing is like from mid 2000s lol

[@NoFallTR]

@@gnrtx-36969 Yes, but unfortunately there are many people using old graphics cards that are not in good condition...

[@seifkhamees7226]

if i had 3 2300u vega 6 25tdp with 16 gigs of ram on 720p can spiderman run on stable 30fps ?

[@teknogameid]

I think no, it will get below 30 in crowd area

[@seifkhamees7226]

@@teknogameid oh okay thank you

[@REVOLTRvVIDEOS]

Why there is not support to GTA 5

[@teknogameid]

maybe gta v can't be downscaled to 360p with lossless scaling downscale support may depending by games support.

[@nopaeon]

Ryzen 7 3700u vega 10 bisa gak bg?

[@teknogameid]

bisa bang

[@iamnopall]

bang kalo drop ke 2 fps an knapa ya? aku nyoba pake ini drop nya malah ke 2 3 fps an wkwk

[@Ritchiex]

Ini free kah

[@teknogameid]

game apa bang? mungkin game nya ga support

[@teknogameid]

di steam berbayar, ada versi tani nya free

[@fatihahilham1437]

download dmn bg yg versi taninya @@teknogameid

[@RaihanCakraWijayaXTJKT2-gh4wz]

​@@fatihahilham1437Nemu kh bang?

[@arranarthur3600]

Nvidia 940mx bisa ga ya kira2?

[@teknogameid]

bisa bang buat gpu nvidia

[@insanity60hz13]

Tenho uma configuração que roda tudo praticamente a 60 fps! Mano com esse programa meu pc cospe fps acompanhado do monitor 144hz 😅😅😅

[@dominnygustavo]

Sua config presta pra note batata??? Se prestar passa pfvvv

[@100_fahrezarasyad2]

Klo buat game online, kira² aman dari banned gk?

[@amirulizzat2114]

even if you dont get banned how are you going to play with 80 latency + ghosting lol and depends on the game.

[@Shahzad12357]

Amd afmf+lsfg+dlss+fsr3fg+monitors frame interpolation=32 times the performance 💀

[@DajjalSlayers]

punya gw ireng mulu layarnya tiap pakai ls . gmna cara atasinya udah ikutin semua instruksi di dc tetap ireng layar

[@teknogameid]

di game apa bang? coba game nya di bikin windowed atau borderless dulu baru buka lossless scaling nya, pencet tombol windows aja trus buka file manager, gamenya jangan ditutup buka lossless scaling, samain setting nya, klik scale setelah ada hitungan mundur langsung klik window gamenya

[@ravifoujdar4]

But there is no difference in marvel spiderman and god of war only works in re 2

[@FidanFidanov]

Если 60 hz монитор то да разницы почти нет ( с 90 hz монитор будет как с 60 fps

[@teknogameid]

no or slight fps difference in both game, but I feel smoother motion with lossless scaling frame generation

[@Big_Daddy953]

There is, to see FPS count with FG active you have to turn on "draw FPS" in lossless app. Its doubled

[@marlonm4561]

this shit is amazing

[@arthurkarl4734]

Apakah bisa buat intel hd 5500?

[@teknogameid]

bisa, syaratnya game harus mendapat 24-30 fps agar hasilnya cukup optimal

[@arthurkarl4734]

​@@teknogameid buat game bajakan bisa gak ya? Punya yang ori nya tpi berat

[@teknogameid]

@@arthurkarl4734 bisa bang

[@darneycatimbang3861]

for handheld

[@Krab12_1]

My laptop with intel celeron 2 core on intel uhd 610 running f2f with fsr on linux proton ge runs 20fps lmao

[@marcoeight2381]

Hi bro for warzone is good?

[@teknogameid]

not good for shooter or fast paced games, no input response improvement the input may feels more slower with lossless scaling frame generation

[@RY-rm3nh]

Not recommended for competitive game, latency is the biggest problem if u use this app

[@teknogameid]

@@RY-rm3nh right

[@ChunMargin]

kasih frame cap dong bang 🤦

[@teknogameid]

setting frame cap 30 fps agak jarang ada di game, banyakan 60 fps mengikuti vsync bisa pake amd software radeon chill

[@vldamv]

spider man and god of war look so bad omg

[@teknogameid]

fsr (game) + fsr (lossless scaling) = 8 bit gaming

[@kevingusti2133]

bruh 79°

[@user-ec1ss9xm7u]

my gpu 89c while gaming thats nothing

[@Massobliteration]

@@user-ec1ss9xm7u Time to change thermal paste bud haha

[@bhrisdamann64]

you cant play SHIT on that laptop lmfaooooo

[@danilkurylenko6988]

Такое чувство что игра идёт на athlon 200ge(vega 3)

[@teknogameid]

200ge/3000g is a dekstop version of ryzen 3 2200u/3200u same specs, the difference only clockspeed