[Lost Ark KR] 1624 PS Shadowhunter PTR Week 1 - Nightmare 3 Spender (Trixion + Gargadith Solo)

[@Narcomoeba1]

Hi meat! Claymore here. Nice to see your upload.

[@PlanADidntWorkOut]

Ty for this vid! Excited to push my PS alt

[@koyhyun117]

Damn I wish I could see your full stream of the balance patch, smoge. The difference between nightmare and entropy would've been nice(also if this was balance patch really gave a buff)

[@SpectralVessaliux]

It is definitely stronger than the pre-patch version of Entropy (which I was parsing just above 22m in 2 minutes). But I had to use unlimited resources as I was running out of mana even with Max MP 3 and 2 Focus runes.

[@koyhyun117]

@@SpectralVessaliux at with this patch what class would you compare its dmg with? (Also we still have to wait until the ptr is over for the final changes right)

[@SpectralVessaliux]

@@koyhyun117 From what I've seen an EW Deadye with similar gears to mine does about 26-28m. So kind of on par with that considering it's Entropy. And yes, it's still subject to changes.

[@eric213]

as the patch is coming closer to NA. How does nightmare play after months of playing it? Looking to build a set for it. Currently play both several DI and PS builds and enjoy both. I see a lot of 4 domin and 2 nightmare builds at the top players. Does PS 3 and PS 1 make a noticeable difference? Really enjoy the SH videos.

[@Kiruyaa]

I'm actually interested in this as well. I play a DI but it feels too stale and ceiling is way to low, was looking to this variant of the PS and wanted to also get the answers to these questions.

[@SpectralVessaliux]

6 Dom is technically the highest ceiling but requires mana food and a lot of focus runes. 2 NM 4 Dom is the next highest and then 6 NM. Honestly both 6NM and 2NM/4Dom are comfy to play in their own right and it's more of personal preference at this point. If you absolutely hate managing C+J for your awakening, then I'd suggest going Nightmare. PS1 is just straight up better than PS3, unless you're playing the Entropy variant.

[@pokeshaq8488]

i have a stupid question, i create a shadowhunter in Na waiting for this change (i like the skills and weapon, but i dont like too much the back attack and feel underwhelming the DI) and i want to know with the change in chaos you use PS1 or change to DI for chaos like people in NA?

[@SpectralVessaliux]

Chaos as in Chaos Dungeon? I have both my original DI build as well as a PS build. Either is fine.

[@pokeshaq8488]

Yes chaos dungeon, then you use your normal 3 spender build in chaos dungeon or you use something different? Or you recommend stay with DI in NA for chaos ?

[@SpectralVessaliux]

@@pokeshaq8488 I do have a separate build for chaos (Grind Zone on Grind Chain mainly) and some other skills with modified tripods. You can choose to run with your DI build as per normal.

[@pokeshaq8488]

@@SpectralVessaliux one last question to not take more of your time, could you show your build for chaos dungeon (grinding) in a video showing the tripods or something like that? I am very curious about the performance of the PS in this section, please and thank you and sorry for my bad English.

[@hanabi6714]

Nice vid btw . Can i play this build? I mean currently in Na ..and is hit master useful for this build ?

[@Don-zn8qh]

Almost all perfect suppression skills are Back Attacks so no you can't run hit master

[@boocultist]

if i wanted to try out this build but keep demonic slash in there which skill do you think i should swap out? or will there be too big of a dps loss?

[@SpectralVessaliux]

You'd most likely remove Decimate. However you would be losing up to about 10% damage and a source of gauge generation which can scuff your rotation quite heavily.

[@boocultist]

@@SpectralVessaliux awe ok best to keep decimate in then ty for the response

[@benji10x45]

Thank you and nice vid, how does this compare to DI? I like PS gameplay but not sure if i want to fully invest into PS if DI has the same performance for less gems

[@SpectralVessaliux]

My DI currently does about 20m DPS with a 9/7 setup, so this build is in fact stronger. But this is of course all based on Trixion DPS so take it with a grain of salt.

[@panoc3277]

Ty for the video, have you tested the demonic impulse ? if yes how is it compared in PTR and and the current version?

[@SpectralVessaliux]

I have indeed tested it. DI is about a 12% damage increase. You can now transform using 4 skills with fast Demon Vision (Clone + Grab + Howl), though it requires 3 wealth runes instead of 2.

[@panoc3277]

@@SpectralVessaliux Nice ty, right now i transform (having 1824 spec) with 4 skills (vision, clone, grab, howl) using 2 wealth (leg on vision and epic on howl), would it be possible to transform using 3 skills assuming we keep the "slow" vision ?

[@SpectralVessaliux]

@@panoc3277 Nope, there is currently no way to 3 skill transform unless you have the gauge gain bracelet effect + elixir effect (which is not BiS).

[@panoc3277]

@@SpectralVessaliux thank you !

[@iScotchX]

yoo i miss your streams ._.

[@Nihility77]

I like what I see...

[@lazwolv]

X2

[@sarutjaru3413]

nightmare it better than domination?

[@SpectralVessaliux]

Dom Fang is the highest ceiling you can achieve on PS.

[@hayzie19]

how do you make the "spender skills" light up when you have enough gauge?

[@SpectralVessaliux]

It's part of the PTR change.

[@hayzie19]

@@SpectralVessaliux Thats a nice change, if you are able can you make another video of the build when it goes live for KR?

[@Randomilization]

We need a streamer that represents PS properly.

[@KibisBayArea]

what is Demonics impulse trixion damage right now in ptr

[@SpectralVessaliux]

I'm doing about 20m with a 5x3+2 setup.

[@mudari661]

Yo ! How does it compare to entropy on the PTR ? i'd be genuinely interested if it's good enough, always been interested in PS but I have 4 entropy already zzz

[@SpectralVessaliux]

It was parsing very similar numbers to the Entropy setup, maybe about 500k DPS or so lower. The thing with Entropy setup though is that I had to have unlimited resources on as I was running out of mana (even with Max MP 3 + 2 Focus runes).

[@idkmanzz7812]

Yo I’m tryin see demonic now

[@피벗]

처음 dps를 봐서 그러는데.. 좋아진거에요?? 나빠진거에요??

[@SpectralVessaliux]

전에는 딜이 너무 약해서 악몽으로 가는 의미가 없었습니다. 개인적으로 이정도면 나쁘지 않다고 봅니다. 현재 본섭 사멸이랑 비교했을때 테섭 3해방이 DPS적으로 더 높은 수치를 보여주고있긴합니다.

[@피벗]

@@SpectralVessaliux 아 그 동안 마음 고생 심했을텐데, 그나마 좋은 방향으로 이어져서, 다행입니다.

[@juliogonzalez3003]

No demonic slash

[@Encaitor]

How would you say PS (Both Nightmare and Entropy) feels after some time to play around with it?

[@Vision792]

dunno if this helps but ive been playing it for a long time and i think that the class is nice and actually fun to play but it just has some issues like mana and the class engraving (ps) not including the intrude skills which makes it feel a bit weird and especially in guardian raids like calliligos you often lack mana to keep dpsing. i hope they fix both those issues in the future and get rid of the slept on "meme" perfect depression.

[@supervillain2311]

yo that shit is kinda tight lmao. what's considered a good parse on the PTR though? seems like everyone does 20m+

[@SpectralVessaliux]

If it was pre-patch, this would be considered really good considering it's a non Entropy build. However right now, a lot of classes do seem to be overtuned. We all remember what happened to Reaper the previous PTR. It is still the first week of PTR, so we'll see.

[@supervillain2311]

@@SpectralVessaliux thanks for the reply. What classes are overtuned right now in your opinion? I know glaivier is but who else?

[@SpectralVessaliux]

@@supervillain2311 I'm honestly not too certain as I'm not exactly following other classes that closely. I think the biggest winner thus far are SF, Glaivier and Pistoleer.

[@DavidSchleigh]

Is pistoleer crazy strong right now?

[@thedemptspecial]

Questions 1) Mind if I ask why you run Legendary Wealth on Demonic Clone instead of Howl? I don't know which move has more meter gain after the buffs so bear with me. 2) How does the movement of the class feel without running a movement skill? I know you have swiftness anyways and Nimble Movement on Slasher helps but I'm curious. 3) Since this build you have is for 5x3+2, what would you run for 5x3 or 5x3+1?

[@SpectralVessaliux]

1) Demon Clone has better gauge gain per second. If you're comparing a single cast, then yes, Howl would give more. But here we're looking at overall gauge gain over time. This applies for pre-PTR as well. 2) When trying out Gargadith, it has felt fine thus far. Would have to try it out in actual raids to get a better feel for it. 3) Grudge + RC + KBW would be the baseline. The other 2 would depend on your stat distribution. In my case, I would opt for Adrenaline + PS for 5x3. As for 5x3+1, it really depends but as I opted to use Sharpen Cut, I would probably go for Adrenaline + PS + EP1. If I went for Piercing Thorns instead of Sharpen Cut for example, I would go Adrenaline + HM + PS1.

[@thedemptspecial]

@@SpectralVessaliux ty for the answers. Last question is if Demonic Clone has more gause per second than Howl even when Howl is at level 7 without running the 3rd tripod (i know it makes the move slower)

[@SpectralVessaliux]

@@thedemptspecial Yes, Demon Clone always has more gauge gained per second compared to Howl. This is why the current ceiling build for Entropy PS utilizes Clone and not Howl.

[@thedemptspecial]

@@SpectralVessaliux tyty, appreciate the help

[@dunknowanything]

@@SpectralVessaliux how much damage difference is between thorns vs. sharpened cut?