LOST on conduits - LTP Ep.049

We got lost with the amount of wires and conduits we needed to install in our Tiny Shipping Container House in order to meet the standard!! But in the end we came up with a solution! Check it out!
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[@OddLifeCrafting]

Hey guys!! Just un important reminder. Electrical wiring is something really dangerous to do by yourself (DIY). The right thing to do is to hire someone that has studied and know it he/she is doing. We are doing this part of the build by ourselves but we are actually both engineers and even though we don't really work on the engineering field we have this knowledge and we understand the standards. The second thing is that all we are doing is based on the Brazilian standards (NBR-5410) and the standards change from country to country, so take this as an example, not as a how to video. Well hope you guys like it! Oi pessoal!! Apenas um lembrete importante. Instalação elétrica é algo realmente perigoso para se fazer sozinho (DIY). A coisa certa a fazer é contratar alguém capacitado que saiba o que está fazendo. Estamos fazendo essa parte da construção por nós mesmos, mas na verdade somos engenheiros e temos conhecimento do que estamos fazendo e das normas de engenharia. A segunda coisa é que tudo o que estamos fazendo é baseado na norma brasileira (NBR-5410) e os padrões mudam de país para país, então tome isso como um exemplo, não como um vídeo de como fazer. Bem, espero que vocês gostem!

[@GustavoVetter]

Roberta e Luca: algumas observações minhas para ajudar vocês, caso tenham esquecido (no vídeo não está claro; então não sei se fizeram ou não). Água quente na cozinha: será aquecedor elétrico ou outra fonte de água quente (solar)? Caso seja elétrico, sugiro passar um conduíte direto da caixa de disjuntores até o ponto onde estará o aquecedor elétrico. A mesma regra aplica-se ao chuveiro, caso seja elétrico. Outro fato: vocês terão TV a cabo (quarto, sala, etc)??? Os cabos "não elétricos - TV, telefone, etc" precisam de um conduíte a parte. Também não vi uma "espera" elétrica para ar condicionado. Não terão AC??? Vi também que usaram "luvas" para unir os conduítes. Por mais que pareçam firmes, quando você insere os condutores e começa a fazer força, eles podem deixar de serem tão resistentes e se soltarem. Meu pai dizia que "seguro morreu de velho". Para prevenir este problema, sugiro aplicar fita isolante de boa "pega" nas junções (5cm antes e 5cm depois) onde foram colocadas as luvas, para evitar que elas sofram tração mecânica e se soltem. Antes de colocar os painéis nas paredes isso fica fácil de resolver. Depois, nem tanto... Não sei em qual área de engenharia é a sua formação e qual a sua experiência em execução de projetos. Desculpem-me se estou me intrometendo demais, mas coloco-me no lugar de vocês e sinto-me "construindo junto com vocês" a cada novo episódio. Abraços. Até o próximo episódio!!!!

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Valeu pelas dicas Gustavo. Varias das questões iam ser respondidas no video mas como ficou muito longo cortamos algumas explicações. Vamos ter conduit para torneira e chuveiro sim. Concordo com o risco de soltar a conexão. AC não vamos ter não. E fiação de lógica (tv/internet). 👌🏼😊

[@kentnuttall2947]

❤

[@ironice80]

Odd Life Crafting can u guys give me the description of that conduit that u guys r useing I'm building a tiny home of a 20ft by 16ft need some help on the conduit please and thank u

[@OddLifeCrafting]

It’s just a regular (in Brazil we use that in every house) electrical conduit with 1 inch diameter. 👌🏼😊

[@foresterp.l3502]

Hey Duca+Roberta, again Great Team Work and the system you 2 use..is realy well thought off..wiring trough conduit in the wall, is the safest and in case of trouble easiest to trace.. Plus, you dont have to demolish your walls when somthing fails.. One Suggestion, zipty all the conduit as strait as possible to the metal frame, so when the walls are up and you wanna dril a hole or screw somthing against the wal, you allways know where the wiring is.! Succes and Greetz from across the globe.

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Thanks so much for reminding us about the zipty we forgot about that!! Will do that tomorrow for sure!!😊👌🏼💪🏼

[@ScottM1973]

8:39 The very *first* time in all the (Tiny Shipping Container) videos I've seen kissing! Woot woot! Hubba hubba! LOL ;)

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Noo are you sure? I thought it had before LOL well... that’s part of what couples do 😂😂😍😍

[@ripysripys7923]

Hi! Did you make thunder-grounder for a containers aswell? Cheers

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Not yet. Still thinking about it

[@eilor87alfa]

You two are an amazing couple, i really enjoy your video’s; it’s something i can share of to my friends...i am learning too with all your videos, keep it up Duca and Roberta...GOD BLESS YOU ALWAYS...

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Thanks so much my friend!!😊😊

[@garylacey8543]

Very different here in australia, i worked with my elec and pulled my own cable, just s thought i used a vacum cleaner to suck the string through the condute

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Woww loved the vacum idea!!😊👌🏼

[@lsete1980]

Parabens casal.... Otimo trabalho.. Idéias òtimas..... Falta Muito para proxima segunda ???? kkkkk Abração!!!!

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Hehehehe valeu Leandro!😊👌🏼

[@pirolas001]

Hey guys, i would like to know what were the musics used in the video! :) Great videos, keep it up and finish this project! You got a follower! :D

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Thanks a lot my friend. All the musics we use are from a music database called artlist. Check out their website they have some really good music. 😊👌🏼

[@krlosbldr4907]

Hi guys, great video and awesome work. But why do you have to put the wiring inside conduit? At least in the states when it’s residential electrical we don’t have to use conduit. Please keep making videos. Great job 👍🏼

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Safer as the wire can get “hot”. And it’s also much easier in case you need to change any of the wires. 👌🏼😊

[@TravisL.Desmadreson]

I loved this episode. The diagram explanation was crystal. Also, 8:39 too cute. Keep up the good work.

[@OddLifeCrafting]

😍 thanks a lot my friend!!

[@livininabox1715]

Another award winning video !!! :) Love you guys :o)

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Thanks so much!!😊😊👌🏼👌🏼

[@kentnuttall2947]

Hi guys, Been watching your videos from the start love your videos , I miss the snap when changing scenes or subjects that was one of the reasons I started to watch you guys in the first place. I am really concerned about the way you guys are doing electrical. I know money is a concern, you should try to run all your wiring in aluminum conduit because if you have a break in the wire anywhere or it shorts out, it could start a bad fire. And be stuck in there with the fire. Because that plastic loom could burn real easy with that insulation. You might consider a professional. I like your very positive can do attitude. And your hay let's learn something cool to day if you guys have an electrical storm outside and it hit your home your plastic loom will burn real easy. I just worry about you guys. Keep up the good work. Hope to see many more videos.

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Thanks a lot for worrying for us Kent. About the plastic conduit that is the standard used in Brazil, it is tested and it complies with the standard. We are actually both engineers and we are doing everything 100% according to the Brazilian standard NBR5410 as it’s supposed to be. Don’t need to be worried we are playing safe. Having always less wired that the limits allowed by conduit. 👌🏼

[@kentnuttall2947]

@@OddLifeCrafting Sorry for the concern. You guys are awesome keep up the good work.

[@OddLifeCrafting]

No need to be sorry. We do understand. The standard way of doing things change so much from country to country and that can be confusing. But no worries that we are doing everything according to the standard and using tested approved materials and components. 👌🏼

[@3MISSISSIPPI]

Coming along nice! Keep up the great work :)

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Thanks a lot!!😊😊

[@DominicUbble]

You didn't need the plastic conduit. You could have just used 3/12 wire which contains a neutral, a "hot" and a bare ground and is sheathed already, throughout most of the house for lighting and plug circuits. They are separate of course, lighting circuits and plug circuits so if you blow a plug your lights still work. Electrical is very easy to do for residential. Usually wire needs only be run in conduit underground, outside and areas where vermin (mice and rats) could possibly make contact with it such as crawlspaces for example. In the kitchen and bath you use the GFI plugs and the dishwasher, hot water dispenser and fridge have their own circuits.Wiring is not rocket science lol

[@ScottM1973]

I'm not sure if you thought of this but have you considered just running all the wiring across the ceiling and then down the walls? Also are you worried about mice/rodents using the wooden conduit to get around and possibly chewing on the wiring?

[@OddLifeCrafting]

There is not enough space on the ceiling. Specially on the connection in between both sides of the house and on the east site (as the ceiling is a little bit higher. 😏

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Ohh about the wooden conduit. We will have a wooden shaft but no lose wire inside. We will have plastic conduits inside of the wooden shaft. 👌🏼😊

[@fabianrolon6078]

🤔Y la instalación de agua? Yo la pondría antes de poner los paneles

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Não será por dentro da parede. 👌🏼👌🏼

[@CapitalVideo]

Why did you use conduit as in New Zealand houses are generally wired without any? The wires are placed through the frames before the walls are put on and then the outlets and lights etc are fitted once the painting has been completed. Does it have anything to do with using metal framing?

[@OddLifeCrafting]

It’s easier to have them to put the wires after building things and also to exchange them whenever it’s necessary. And it also protects the wires to get in touch with wood and other materials and avoid any problems

[@CapitalVideo]

@@OddLifeCrafting That was very quick as I have not yet finished watching this episode. Thanks.

[@OddLifeCrafting]

☺️

[@RokDAWG1]

What are you planning to do for moisture control?

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Opening windows everyday and if/when dehumidifier 👌🏼😊

[@josedeoliveiralima5777]

Muito bonito o trabalho e a sintonia de vocês!!! Mas... ( Sempre tem um "mas")... Pela primeira lei de ohm: "a corrente é inversamente proporcional á tensão" Então se vocês tivessem optado por usar 12V. , Ao invés de 220V., Os cabos elétricos da vossa rede, teriam que ser dum diâmetro beeeemmmm maior....

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Nem tudo é perfeito né hehehehe😊👌🏼💪🏼

[@lanersm1]

What about the grounding ? (Aterramento) Great job! Love your videos. It would be a great video counting all the times you say: “basically “ 😉😁👍

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Hehehehe. We will install grounding later on. 👌🏼😊

[@oasisdelnorte]

You guys are awesome. Thanks you so much for sharing

[@OddLifeCrafting]

😊😊 Thanks a lot!👌🏼👌🏼

[@jzledwards01]

Me again. Helping you with your fantastic English. So not dimension, calculate. Your doing so well.

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Thanks a lot!! Some times on the “improvise” “free style” talk is har to remember the tight words. Hehehehe thanks a lot! 😊

[@seldalex]

Genial el video, en menudo lio os habeis metido Sin ser un experto cualificado, deberias de consultar la toma del baño, creo recordar(vagamente y posiblemente en la legislacion europea) que el circuito del baño debe de ser especialmente independiente, por el tema de humedades que se genera dentro (Y de ser así, posible solucion, enchufes con tapa estancos) Mucho animo^^ P.d.: Que algun experto me corrija! :D

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Obrigado pela preocupação amigo. Na verdade somos engenheiros os dois e eu (Duca) engenheiro civil. Sendo assim conhecemos e entendemos as normas. 😊 pro chuveiro tem que ser um circuito independente sim. E já está previsto. 👌🏼😊😊 gracias amigo

[@spladam1]

Wow that is big job you're doing.In Australia we have to have an electrician to do all that, expensive ,😥you guys have got it easy lol. Keep it up love your work love seeing your positive attitude 😜

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Thanks a lot my friends. We are actually both engineers Roberta (sanitary and environmental) Duca (civil). So we have studied before and we do understand the standards. 😊👌🏼

[@kennethe4809]

Hey guys. You are really brave to do your own wiring. Good luck!! Have a productive week. See you Monday.

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Thanks a lot my friend!!😊👌🏼

[@nenzianwari]

Yes you definitely getting there Roberta. They say behind every great man there is a great woman and I strongly believe this to be true in your case. Keep up the good work god willing you will get to the finish line.

[@OddLifeCrafting]

😍😍 totally agree (Duca) and she know you are right. Hehehehehe thanks a lot for the support my friend!!😊👌🏼💪🏼

[@lancesouthwick6585]

Do you have a work around to prevent the wiring running in the channel along the floor from being exposed to water. I am thinking if you ever have a leak from a sink or something it could hit those lines. I know they are coated and in the conduit so it may not be that big a concern but, wondered if you had a fail safe for this?

[@OddLifeCrafting]

The wire that will pass under the sink will be inside of a shaft but also inside of a water tight conduit. The wire for the kitchen will run underneath of the countertop not on the floor to play it safe. 👌🏼😊

[@shyguykm]

I like the way both of you interact with each other in your videos. Lots of energy. It makes the videos fun to watch.

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Thanks a lot my friend!!😊

[@rogergarris6678]

Let the women talk sometime, she knows as much as you do.

[@AdamKalbasz]

Another way to get the guide line through is tie tissue to one end of the string and then use a vacuum on the other side of the conduit to quickly suck it through.

[@OddLifeCrafting]

That’s such a cool technique hehehehe loved!!

[@gerardobraga3395]

Chicos, tal vez ya lo pensaron pero sugiero colocar una tierra al contenedor a parte de la tierra de la instalación,aca es un auge de casas contenedor,un saludo desde uruguay

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Gracias. Vamos ter sim. Mas não instalamos ainda. 😊👌🏼

[@pauloandrade1771]

The Best .

[@OddLifeCrafting]

😊😊

[@rutasdeluruguay4959]

Pacito a pacito va tomando forma!! muy buen video sigan haci!!! saludos

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Gracias Alexis.

[@filip0p]

Deja hablar más a Roberta!

[@noobsoueu1]

Vcs são br?

[@OddLifeCrafting]

👌🏼😊

[@tdholman]

The fact you are engineers helps me understand your thought process better, and explains how you are able to learn new tasks relatively quickly. I like your extremely positive attitude and the fact you are always smiling! I subscribe to many channels, but there are only a hand full I actually watch on a regular basis, yours is one of those. Thank you for sharing your process and journey, you are getting better at sharing only the important/interesting thoughts behind your decisions.

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Thanks so much for the support Terry. For sure sharing everything weekly is a huge challenge for us. It’s tough to make everyone happy. We are working really hard trying to learn how to share in a way people can really understand what we mean. But sometimes been in a foreign language doesn’t help us. Hehehe it sounds like we don’t know how the speak. Well we don’t plan to quit the channel any time soon so hopefully with time we will get better hehehehehe.

[@tdholman]

While I can tell English is not your native tongue, you absolutely are very able to communicate well in it. I never have a hard time understanding what you mean. Thanks again.

[@OddLifeCrafting]

😊😊

[@nspctor7729]

If I may Let's make believe that you are moved in and coming home from a hard days work on you boat renovation. Open the front door and reach for the switch you want to illuminate (a table lamp, ceiling...etc.) Don't forget the outside stuff such as porch light, wp (weather protected) outlet(s) Here, at the lockset side I'd install a double gang (a box that will accomodate two switches or outlet), one for outside light and one for inside. Place a junction box there. I like mine at 42" oc. (on center) your preference... Repeat the process with each room, always asking the same question "Where is the electrical demand and how can I control it with convenience?" In other words, where is my electrical demand and place the appropriate box in its proper location. For instance, your office is outlet hungry such as router, laptop, printer, phone charger, camera charger, ambient lighting, and spare for future use etc. You might want to have a couple of outlets above table height for convenience. What I'm trying to say here is that Your'e working backwards, the reason you lay awake at nights. Install your boxes first THEN connect the boxes. Don't forget your communication such as CAT5e or fibre optics for your internet router etc. A conduit is ideal for this application since the technology changes so rapidly, a conduit will allow out to 'fish' a newer faster cable in the future. I would then rough wire the boxes eliminating the costly conduit by using grommets. kzbin.info/www/bejne/anjKfZ6Jdqd8Y7c You have me somewhat concerned at 5:41 If I understand you correctly, the electrical panel is under the kitchen sink cabinet. You might want to check with your MASTER electrician. Main panels are not allowed in wet areas such as bathrooms. Something to do with water and electricity not mixing well. A more sensible and cost effective method would be to locate the panel close to the service entrance conductor (that big wire from the utility service) keeping it as short as possible. Most panels are at eye level in an enclosed cabinet. A simple box with a door is all that's needed here. OK! I've done enough damage here...time to move on before I get thrown out. Cheers, N

[@OddLifeCrafting]

You are right to have this worries Robert but let me defend ourselves hehehehehe. We actually didn’t do it backwards (we believe) we just didn’t lock the boxes on place but every single conduit was based on the exact place we want outlets and switchs. That way it took so long for us because we needed to work on the furniture plans so we could decide where we want the switchs for lights and the outlets, including outside lights and outlets. About internet/tv cables they will come underground until the west container. The main switch box is not going to on the kitchen cabinet. It will be on the sit of the dining table, that it’s not really a wet area as there is no hose close to it. Underneath the kitchen cabinet we will have a water tight conduit bringing energy to the bathroom and to the storage place. 👌🏼😊

[@nspctor7729]

Glad you clarified that. Kind of figured it might have been my misunderstanding BTW. don't forget the A/C if that applies. Cheers, N

[@OddLifeCrafting]

No AC for us!! That’s one of our personal challenges. To “prove” it’s possible to live comfortably in a Shipping container house without AC. Hehehehe we don’t really like AC. 👌🏼😊

[@nspctor7729]

LOL I'm filing this in my permanent (DO NOT DESTROY) file. I sense I'll be needing it in a few years. Man, are we going to have fun with this one :) On a different note, hopefully you show a close up of your outlets and switches and how they are wired in. Cheers, N

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Hehehehe will see!!😊👌🏼

[@TreinoCorreto]

Very nice video! 😊

[@OddLifeCrafting]

😍😍

[@loanauditscal]

Why so much power? 220 seems like a lot.

[@OddLifeCrafting]

🤔that’s not really our choice. Some of the Brazilian states grid runs on 220v.

[@Shalonchi]

thats a one time use line guide, next time, take two rings and tape it to the tube ends and pass the guide through the ring and through the tube through the other ring at the other end and back through the tube, now cut the string and tie the string and to the string start that you passed through the starter ring. wala you got a re-usable guide that you can last for the lifetime of the house. want to rework the electical or add more functionality to the house through data cables you can without the need to even take out your drywall.

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Nice idea!! Thanks a lot!!😊👌🏼

[@JonXonrupt]

Also if you want to be able to add an extra wire in a conduit (or in case you need to ever replace a wire) make sure to tie a new piece of string to the wire when you pull it through. This means you end up with the wire installed and a new piece of string in place ready to pull a 2nd wire.

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Great!! That’s nice!!👌🏼😊

[@nikosranu]

try vacuum cleaner to bring the line rope to the otherside.

[@nikosranu]

not 100% sure that this will work, in you case

[@OddLifeCrafting]

👌🏼😊

[@TdrSld]

You just cut a plastic bag to make a parachute like thing, tie the pull string to it and use the Vacuum on the other end. I have done over MILE long pulls with this method, and it works in "smurf pipe" (what we call the type of conduit they are using in Texas) very well.

[@MattWeber]

That actually works really well for flex conduit like this

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Nice if we any trouble with our regular guide we will try this method. 😊👌🏼💪🏼

[@homertalk]

MC cable is what office buildings use in metal studded walls. That would have been your best bet.

[@OddLifeCrafting]

What is MC cable? Thanks

[@homertalk]

Metal Clad, 12/2 Is #12 gauge with 3 conductors Black, White(neutral), ground. Or it comes in 12/3 which has an extra conductor for 240v circuits or 3 way switches. Any electrical supply house has them as well as Home Depot

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Oh. Understood now. 👌🏼😊

[@josecarloscampelo7501]

Tudo no capricho com sempre.

[@OddLifeCrafting]

😊

[@cyberspooky]

I can’t help thinking that you could get away with only three feed lines , lighting circuit , GPO circuit and high amp power feed for the stove , washer , hot water . Keep up the good work and soon you will be living the dream 😎

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Maybe if we were not in Brazil. We are doing according to Brazilian standards. For example if any outlet has over 10A it has to have it’s own circuit. That means shower, stove, oven, washer they al need to have their own circuits. Well I guess sometimes we’ve got to do what we’ve got to do. Hehehehe

[@paolocostantini3211]

👍💡🔌good job !

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Thanks a lot Paolo!!

[@1536fm]

❤❤ great job

[@OddLifeCrafting]

😊thanks a lot!

[@davidfitzmaurice991]

What sort of wall covering will you be using , ply or gib board. Have you already got power on site to a junction box. Keep up the great videos.

[@OddLifeCrafting]

Plywood. Yep we do have a main switch box just like 3m (around 10ft) from the house. 👌🏼😊

[@davidfitzmaurice991]

@@OddLifeCrafting Nice. Will be a big milestone getting lights and power operational.

[@OddLifeCrafting]

For sure. And walls hehehehhe

[@OddLifeCrafting]

For sure. And walls hehehehhe

[@Raymon86c]

Less talk work more!

[@darrylbutt2570]

Superb stuf, but I would have thought doing the wiring now would be a good idea?

[@Allan-bb8io]

Tomadas nunca são de mais, é sempre bom ter tomadas extras pelo menos a cada 3m de parede mesmo que vcs não tenham planos de ligar nada nelas agora . Fica a dica!

[@OddLifeCrafting]

👌🏼 com certeza!! Lado bom de ter uma casa pequena. Na teoria dos 3 metros duas tomadas resolviam no nosso caso. Hehehehe (to brincando vamos ter muito mais que duas) 😊👌🏼