JS "Sub Xero" HYFY 3.0 Surfboard Review Ep. 155

[@brentreilly1081]

Great surfing from you & Asa - that backhand attack was looking especially sharp!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@brentreilly1081 Cheers!!! Super fun sled.

[@aaron.monson_surf]

Ripping like always, thanks Noel!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Appreciate the love!

[@Spider2029]

We had a chat maybe about 2 years ago on surfboards, appropriate volume and skill level. Needless to say, when I got my new board few months ago I reached for that message and dial in volume perfectly. Fun fact: I got a 5’5 Sub Xero in Carbotune construction. I love the board so much, but without Noel tips I would’ve probably got volume wrong over sizing it. Today I realized 29 liters are more than enough 😂. So thanks, for everything! Cheers from Sardinia 🫶

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@Spider2029 Stoked you got the right size sled!! Cheers for the kind words.

[@jsindustriessurfboards]

Awesome to see stories like this. Enjoy

[@Heath1275]

Very well said Noel. The Sub Xero is a great board and a great all rounder.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Agreed… excellent in 1’-4’ surf with speed to burn.

[@HoStevie]

Great demonstration Noel! Appreciate the vid 🤙🏼

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@@HoStevie Cheers

[@jgprv2524]

Noel is surfing post hip replacement, right or left hip?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@jgprv2524 right hip

[@GroundStudies]

Noel, for a 4-fin setup, check out the old Dane/Britt Merrick fin collab with Captain Fin; the set I'm talking about is called the "Twad." I went back to the Sub Xero specifically because of these fins, and they go really good.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@GroundStudies Nice… I will check them out. Thanks

[@superdupertroy]

Huge supporter and your videos have helped me so much. I'm on the east coast in FL and my daily has been a sweet potato. My abilities are far below what the board is capable of, but I feel like it doesn't do so well in the wally shore break I've been surfing lately. I'm in the market for something more in the small wave HPSB realm (trying to get into snappy turns/airs) and was considering the mini ghost or Pisces. Any recommendations?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

For Florida waves you need speed… so for 1-4’ waves with performance I suggest Sub Xero or Pisces.

[@superdupertroy]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 Seriously appreciate your response. There's a crazy good deal on a used astro-pop by me, you think that would suffice?

[@superdupertroy]

@surfnshowreviews7777 You think I would regret going wirh a tiny Astro pop? There's a great deal on a used one by me

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@ I say grab it and give it a try. If the price is right you can learn without it costing you much.

[@zipanguful]

Hi Noel , great review like always. But it was nice if there was also content in the ocean. What do you suggest 1-3 ft mushy beachbreaks. Pyzel White Tiger with the squash tail or the JS sub Xero with the swallow ? How's the rockerline compaired to these 2 boards when you surf a 2 ft wave with more texture and a lip hitting a sand bar??

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@zipanguful The WT has a little less overall rocker so it might be a bit faster with more glide. In 1-2’ mushy waves I say WT. for 1-4’ surf I say Sub Xero. The SX offers more performance in the pocket and it will carve better too.

[@AnthonyDeleo-r3y]

Good review, thanks Noel. I currently ride the Firewire Mashup, 5'6" x 19 5/8 x 2 9/16 The Sub Xero HYFY is very similar at 5'6" x 20 x 2 9/16 What do you see as the main differences between the two boards?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

The SX is a bit faster down the line and maybe a little more precision in the pocket.

[@catinthehat8412]

have you tried fins like the new jjf scimitar I would be interesting to see what you think 🤙

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

I have not tried them yet.

[@malcolmd3670]

What board are you surfing for summer southern cali SX or Flame Fish?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@malcolmd3670 I prefer SX. It’s fast, grovels well, and offers more performance on every type of turn in the pocket.

[@arrowpatrick8579]

Another great review Noel, the comparison of boards that you share is extremely helpful in determining a best purchase for me. I prefer lighter boards normally, how do you compare the weight of the carbotune to a poly, hyfi 3, or even xtr epoxy boards? Keep shredding!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@arrowpatrick8579 my Carbotune Gravity’s weight is similar to a team light PU. It’s lighter compared to both HYFY 2.0 and 3.0. The HYFY weight is similar to a stock PU/Poly off the rack at a surf shop. If you go XTR…. You can make that super light if you want.

[@arrowpatrick8579]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 I have the Supernova in xtr, that board is good FUN! Duke has it dialed in. Appreciate your help

[@rakc8992]

How does it compared with rnf96?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

The 96 has a better wave range of 1-8’ surf and it can do it all as a performance fish. However the SX does sharper turns and offers a bit more vertical surfing in the pocket on 1’-4’ surf.

[@rakc8992]

@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks for comment. Do you recommend SX over rnf96 for beginner-inter weak paddler in below head dumpy beachbreak?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@ If the waves are dumpy go 96. Make sure you buy a board with more volume so the board is stable and easy to get to your feet.

[@pelegalmog5876]

Hey Noel, Thanks for your review, I’m about to buy this board. I 81 kg 6 feet. I currently ride 30 liter js black box 3, I’m catching waves and do maneuvers but I want it to be more easily to catch waves and a board for small waves, I don’t know if to go sub xero5.7 32 liters or 5.8. What you recommend? And which fins do you recommend and what size? Thank you

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@pelegalmog5876 Your volume range for your weight at different skill levels. Pro /Expert = 28-30L Advantage = 30-32L Intermediate = 33-34L If your a strong paddler and intermediate surfer you can go 31-33L. The volume range according to your skill level should help choose the size. You BB 3 at 30L might be too small for you.

[@pelegalmog5876]

@ thank you very much you helped me a lot!

[@Bob-mj2jz]

Hey Noel, How would you compare this to the Lost Pieces? Black Sheep V HiFi 3 as they’re borne carbon bottoms with epoxy decks. Cheers, the show is great!!

[@Bob-mj2jz]

*both

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@Bob-mj2jz Pisces is a performance fish… the Sub Xero will draw sharper lines with a little more performance in the pocket. Sub Xero really tops out at 4’ surf. The Pisces will go beyond that. Black Sheep and HYFY 3.0 are very similar

[@SurfTechChannel]

Nice review, Noel, been wanting to get on a Hyfi 3.0. One of my biggest questions for exploration, did you notice a difference between the Hyfi 3.0 and blacksheep flex wise with the carbon being on the bottom vs. the top?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

The pop is similar when comparing HYFY 3.0 and Black Sheep.

[@SurfTechChannel]

@ thanks Noel!

[@Tehwhsyeg77]

Hey Noel, as always awesome review! Seeking some help if you can please sorry a bit of a long one. Looking for a groveller mainly for 1-3ft beach breaks. I’m 136lbs and 5’8 beginner/intermediate - easily catching waves, pumping for speed and going down the line. I would love to now try progress into some turns… Currently riding a 5’6 Machadocado (32.3l) with the machado 2+1 fins for the board. I’m loving the feel of the board and the ease I have catching waves although I’m struggling to turn and move the board around. Do you think I’m on too many litres for my weight? I was thinking of dropping down to a 5’4 Machadocado 28.8l but I’m a bit worried because before I bought the Machadocado I had a 5’4 Pyzel White Tiger 28.2l and hated it… felt way too wobbly and unstable… sold it right away.. Do you recommend any boards? Should I drop down to the 5’4 machadocado despite the similar litres to the white tiger given that I like the feel of the 5’6 or should I stay on the 5’6 and practise more as I understand a lot of it has to do with technique… but ultimately I would like to make sure I’m on the right board 😅 Just to note I’m a heavily front footed surfer. Would really appreciate any advice/recommendations. Thank you 🙏

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@Tehwhsyeg77 Your volume range could go down a little… I say 29-31L. The shorter you go the looser the board. Don’t go down too short… it will feel unstable and hard to get up on with control. I say try to find a used board with a little less volume but don’t sell your Cado until you find something better. Technique wise… ride your Cado and practice your turns by shifting 70% of your weight onto your back foot to turn the board hard and quickly. After you make the turn… then put more weight on your front foot to regain speed again. Look for these types of models used at 29-31L. RNF 96 Pisces Cado Seaside Bobby Quad If you buy something new again at the new volume then go RNF 96 or Pisces they offer excellent turning capabilities. .

[@Tehwhsyeg77]

@ Thanks Noel! You’re a legend! So I’m assuming the RNF and Pisces would feel more stable under feet than the white tiger? Cheers 🙏

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@ They have a little more rocker so they will turn easier on rail. I don’t want you to go too short or too low on volume.

[@hughlawson5399]

planing vs displacement hulls and the various combinations of both.

[@brettribeneck3961]

I wish you would of had a chance to ride it in Carbotune. I bet that would go good.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@brettribeneck3961 I think so too. That would be my first choice to get all 3 of these boards in.

[@WoolyTV]

Ripping Noel!

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@@WoolyTV Cheers!!!

[@aaronzimmerman1725]

I ride a sub Xero and a Xero fusion

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@aaronzimmerman1725 Which one do you prefer in 1-3’ surf and why? How tall are you?

[@aaronzimmerman1725]

@surfnshowreviews777 I’m in Florida so I ride a 5’11” Sub Xero in Hyfi 2.0 until it gets head high. I jump on a 6’2” Xero Fusion in PU/Poly when it gets head high plus. Usually have some wind too which is why I prefer the poly in bigger stuff. JS poly boards are crazy good too. I’m 42 years old, 6’3” 220lbs

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@ Thank you for your posts… it will help our community

[@ryansmith9283]

This is the review I’ve been waiting for 🙏 still can’t decide between flame fish or sub xero to add to the quiver of fusion and gravity. Love my fusion just worried the sub xero will be to similar ?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@ryansmith9283 Agreed… go Flame Fish… it surfs complete different compared to Fusion and Gravity

[@ryansmith9283]

@ such a hard decision looks like your ripping on this, but if you can still do decent turns and not catch the nose on the flame fish definitely could be the go.

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@ Yessir

[@OT0T]

Stock 5”3 😂😂😂😂 c’mon now Noel that is not relatable

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@OT0T That’s within my volume range for my height and weight. I’m 5’9” and weigh 165lbs. My volume range is 25-27L.

[@davidshaw164]

@@surfnshowreviews7777you’re just way better than everyone… you should try to give a size recommendation to more of an intermediate surfer though.

[@dddunlap]

Wow, you're riding some small boards, getting close to a skimboard.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

It’s all about the volume range, low rocker, and wave size when riding boards with less rail line.