LOST WORLDS THAT COULD CHANGE THE IMPERIUM | Warhammer 40,000 Lore/History

[@Luetin09]

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[@anguscampbell3020]

One thing I've been meaning to ask is what was the source you had for the necron-eldar cooperation to seal off the warp that you mentioned in your dark origins videos? Try as I might I never managed to find the BL book or codex that was from.

[@kaidorade1317]

But would the Imperium want to be changed? Probably not. Should it? Yes

[@classycasual3910]

Game looks neat! I'm glad they were wise enough to sponsor the Loremaster!

[@Luetin09]

@@anguscampbell3020 Its suggested but not confirmed in Wild Rider. When there is evidence discovered of their cooperation.

[@anguscampbell3020]

@@Luetin09 Awesome thank you so much.

[@kai_plays_khomus]

Usually people are not aware how big of a challenge long term data storage actually is. The best we have are still rock carvings and parchment codices which might last a few hundred to thousand years under ideal conditions (DNA is an insanely stable molecule for its complexity and enormous length so artificial DNA might be a way and jpegs and mp3s had already gotten encoded in aDNA strands and successfully read out again - but it requires complicated tech to do so and all the knowledge of the world won't be of any use if the required tech to read it out didn't make it through the centuries as well and the chances are pretty damn low) - and it got worse and worse over time: We already sit atop a mountain of digital data storage we can't access any longer even though they are just a few decades old - and some backup CDs I've burned and stored away couldn't get read out again a mere 10 years later although they never went into a drive, were stored dry, dark and with moderate temperatures. If society would collapse right now the overwhelming majority of our knowledge would get lost within only a few generations - the regression of the Imperium is pretty realistic in light of the lenghts of time we speak about here.

[@Luetin09]

This was something I heavily researched a while ago, its interesting to hear some of the solutions that are being worked on now

[@FormerGovernmentHuman]

The Romans came very very close to developing a sustainable power source just before the fall and the dark ages using water mills. They used it to power saw mills with hydropower and were developing other uses for it, coming close to some ground breaking stuff. In first century AD there was a “steam engine” that could provide torque but was never really put into any useful purpose. Believe it was called an aeolipile or something like that. The burning of the library of alexandria was also a devastating blow to human knowledge. It is quite incredible to consider what the world would be like without the dark ages. Likely steam engines and the Industrial Revolution could have occurred centuries if not nearly a millennia before it did in our timeline if not for the the fall of the west and the proceeding dark ages. And you are right, we could very very quickly lose centuries of knowledge in a couple of generations if we can’t find a solution to preserving it. One thing that is quite depressing as well is we are so focused on producing goods to meet demand right now with no concern for longevity, for the most part products are made with the intention of failing, breaking or falling apart in a certain time span to encourage you to go out and consume more products. Almost everything in our modern day is only produced to last just long enough to not be a complete scam, hence why products made before the 80’s and 90’s are likely to still be around for another generation or two while items we use right now probably won’t make it past a couple of decades.

[@IamLertimo]

Great point! I think this is one of the things that W40k gets simultaneously wrong and right: the narrative of a past imperfectly recorded and dimly recalled is one of the things that makes w40k so compelling. Your point just underlines how quickly our stored history and knowledge is already rendered unrecoverable. At the same time, 40k writers seem to work against this view. The recent lore in novels and campaign books seems to hit the wrong notes constantly. The Imperium is consistently shown as having far too much knowledge of it's own past. In one recent Black LIbrary novel a character-a regular Imperial citizen, not High Lord or similar-makes a casual reference in conversation to Drakan Vangorich, who was alive in M32. That's 10,000 years before the present of the characters. To underline this, it's like me making a reference to an individual from the Stone Age-and you getting who I mean! The same goes for the repeated references to 'Shakespire' and quotations from 20th century poets and the like. Even when the Lion returned, why did not one person ask, "Who is Lion El'Johnson?" Other older books where Imperial citizens couldn't name a primarch beyond Sanguinius, or had only a dim idea of what they even were felt far more convincing. Rick Priestley said a while back in an interview that the 41st Millenium was originally chosen as the setting because it was so insanely far in the future that all knowledge of humanity's distant past could be assumed to be lost. He bemoaned the subsequent detailed documentation of the Horus Heresy and the primarchs etc saying the setting had lost what he referred to as the concept of 'deep past'. For me it not only robs the setting of mystery, but it just feels deeply jarring and at odds with what feels more likely.

[@geofff.3343]

Yeah, it's truly staggering. There's so many scales on which storage of information balances. Carving it into rocks, especially immovable ones in an area protect from erosion would probably see them last the longest, but they're difficult to access and impossible to transport. Oral traditions have drift in the information being relayed. Books made of acid-free paper or vellum/parchment are a good compromise for longevity and transportability but they will eventually require copying and could present another chance for drift. And the more modern your method of transcription the more complex the playback method becomes. It's what makes video game preservation so difficult. Sure you can emulate the software, but the intended experience was on an arcade cabinet or a system you wired into your TV with coaxial cable.

[@yaldabaoth2]

No, that's not the best we have. Just laseretch your data into a sheet of gold. It will stay that way (unless physically destroyed of course) forever. Now, having the means of extracting that data again might be difficult once you were bombed into the stone age, but it would still be there anyhow.

[@ballistics343]

Plot twist: in tact STCs are actually extremely common, but one of their primary functions is cloaking the planet from anyone travelling in the warp

[@Baamthe25th]

Space Travel Camouflage

[@HealingBlight]

Cloaking in general. Dark Age of Technology might not have had the foresight to be so specific in their hiding.

[@McGillus]

Right? And humankind living on these cloaked worlds caused the mass birth of psykers (warp bleeds through), breaking the cloak, mass demon infestation everywhere because warpgods playing games blabla. Backlash of planetary warpdampeners breaking everywhere indirectly help create Slaanesh. Sounds pretty canon to me. I should write a book.

[@generalalduin9548]

I love the idea of a shadow human empire hiding from the threats of the galaxy in their own self contained bubble

[@Matwho]

​@@generalalduin9548 oh man, my first thought is of people hiding in a submarine. 😬

[@birdman5091]

35:23 I like how the assassin whose trained to be an expert killer is the one telling the arbites not to immediately start attacking and gunning down the locals. Puts into picture how blood thirsty the Imperiums law enforcement can be.

[@SlashCampable]

Just like real cops. :D

[@bigbangrafa8435]

In other words, there are actually a bunch of fully working STCs around the galaxy in M41, but they all have some form of an asterisk that prevents It from being used because It's 40K and we can't have nice things.

[@fix0the0spade]

With STC's being sentient, the asterisk could be that the STC's themselves don't think M41 humanity is worthy of the knowledge and power of a functional STC.

[@MemekingJag]

You can have nice things, but they have to come with an attached (expensive) price tag that puts pressure on people collecting the army previously to 'upgrade'. We get the Primarus marines and Guilliman out of nowhere, a weirdly progressive move for the state of the Imperium, which is almost by definition crumbling and decaying otherwise. Lion El' too. We aren't ever going to get anything published telling us how things are improving outside the tabletop, because they can afford to be grimdark there for practically free. No STC uncoverings because those simply don't add marketability to the story, unlike the super-duper space marines and chaotic good mad scientist does. Worst part is, all these weird lore titbits are gonna stay around because there is NO way they'll do to 40k what they did to Warhammer Fantasy.

[@vonkug]

@luetin, my guy. Around 18:50 you're justifying what you do. Here's your word: HISTORIOGRAPHY. Not the study of history, but the study of how we record history, what is saved, and what we glean from even the most terrible, but in context, sources.

[@duncan1544]

Haha I came here to say exactly this. I would recommend you read into this idea Luetin, if you haven't already. I've not heard you refer to it.

[@duncan1544]

It's relevant because it refers to how history should not be read as if the writers of history, or historical artefacts, reflect "objective truth" or some such idea, but rather acknowledges that the author or the object reflects a particular point of view/ one particular angle on any given phenomenon. Historiography tries to resolve this by acknowledging the framework of historical understanding adopted by the author, because that enables the reader to better understand where they are coming from.

[@gragsmash]

i have an idea for a setting for a 40k RPG adventure. Basic setup is a dark age of technology colony - the colony STC made the decision to cut off all communications during the war with men of iron, lest it fall to whatever corruption was causing the problem. somewhere during the age of strife, an unnamed cataclysm befell the central colony, and what was left were the agricultural and mining outposts. over time they aren't even aware where the original city was, and it became a myth to the people living there. during the crusade the emperor's children roll in, and the planet's population become compliant with relatively little discord - they are happy to be reunited with humanity. the legion moves on, with iterators and a small techpriest contingent left behind to get the place ready for productivity. something something heresy, and the colony's location is lost. the techpriests locate the original colony STC and make contact with it. Over time, they set up their central forge at that location, and revere the STC as the "machine god" the techpriests are highly secretive about their machine god, and give out gear to the world as needed - often producing highly specific goods for members of the world's PDF - to the point where a military family will have their own customized ancestral lasrifles, decorated over time to reflect that family's achievement. the STC also engages with the help of the techpriests in some warp shenanigans that make the world highly difficult to find. how exactly this works is a detail i haven't really fleshed out.

[@YanBaoQin]

It might just scale up the Gellar field STC to stomp down on warp fluctuations locally

[@BrotherRoga]

I would imagine an Inquisitor getting curious and investigating the planet. It might end better than expected if the Mechanicus are smart about it.

[@gragsmash]

@BrotherRoga my plan from an adventure design standpoint is that the stc has whatever killed off the original city bottled up in a cave somewhere. When people start investigating it might let it out again. I hadn't decided if that was a flayer cult or pox walkers or what. From a lore standpoint I can't let the stc survive this adventure and become known to the galaxy. One way or another it's gotta go. So it has to be paranoid and reactive

[@muninrob]

@@gragsmash Trazyn could pop in and "collect" the entire scene at the end to clean up your lore implications.... "They haven't made one of those in twenty thousand of your years, I honestly did not think any more of them existed. Please gather around the artifact and take a defensive position.... Your presence will complete the display." After all, Trazyn's just "Diorama Dave" from down at the shop without the spending limit - "It will look awesome in my collection" is all the reason he needs for pretty much anything. P.S. Bonus awesome points if you actually make a diorama out of the STC chamber, with the right models in the right livery that you can whip a sheet off of when Trazyn's stasis bomb goes off. P.P.S. Best shop I ever played at was run by a "diorama dave" - an impartial judge that doesn't play, with an eye for distance, angle, and FOV who made little dioramas instead of trophies for narrative tournaments. (Sgt. MacChainsword, of the "they're all going to die, why should I bother" chapter, in his flat grey primer, splattered with the most amazingly detailed and painted spray of 'Nid gubbins and juices still makes me smile even though it's been 20 years since I've seen him.)

[@colinmackay92]

Lost worlds are fascinating to me. Sometimes I like to think that there's worlds out there in the 40K universe that are just like ours irl and they just have no idea. A fun but terrifying thought

[@jinpae6972]

"It's an older lore, sir, but it checks out."

[@Calaban619]

I've always loved this trope: a world still in the state of the forgotten technology, playing a facade show for the Imperium, to remain hidden, considered loyal. Safe. Planetary garrisons quotas are vat grown, etc. I wonder how many Imperial worlds are successfully secretly like this.

[@garretth8224]

It's typical human selfishness to hide things that would benefit humanity as a whole. If the planet is ever mentioned again, I won't be surprised if it was wiped out by Tyranids. It would fit into the grim dark of 40k. All the knowledge lost because they were selfish. Also the Imperium having access to a fully functional STC would make them OP.

[@stax6092]

You often bring up the "What if?" of the Great Crusade encountering an equal to or greater technological/military society, but there's nothing to say it isn't still potentially out there. I think it would be cool if there was and maybe they just made it impossible to reach them by other species. Like anything that isn't theirs that drifts or warps in finds itself on it's way somewhere else.

[@manadol69]

Technocracy

[@gunplabokitam2818]

Loving that Luetin is slowly adding the 998th of 1000 cuts to Chapter master Valrak with another “Dorn is just dead, sorry”commentary at the quarter point of this video.

[@AnshumanKantiBose]

Listen bro. If Horus can now potentially return, If we now canonically, have titstodes, Then Dorn is very much gonna come back.

[@passchen-fail3704]

Unfathomably based. Remember, perturabo took three days to read all of mars’ knowledge. Dorn took a week.

[@Sinfulpapaya]

Comment for the algo god

[@Slapdab]

All hail

[@pianospawn1]

Additional reply. Bless the rithm.

[@-SRM-]

Adeptus Commentus

[@myshkin_7951]

Interaction in replay o7

[@BleachCowboy2016]

Calling it an “algorithm” is being way too generous if all it entails is getting as many comments as possible.

[@Pizzifrizzo]

My favourite example of "lost worlds" in 40k is that of Urdesh and the Sabbat Worlds. The region has a long and bloody history during the Heresy, but afterwards, weakened, it gets forgotten by the Imperium, while the region gets overrun by Chaos-worshipping cultures from the Halo Stars. Urdesh develops its own unique culture parallel to the Mechanicus' as a result of its priesthood being purged during the Heresy. When the region gets reconquered by the living saint (!) Sabbat several millennia later, people have completely forgotten the Sabbat Worlds have ever been part of the Imperium, treating them as a wild frontier of sorts. This history can be pieced together from Adeptus Titanicus (Crucible of Retribution and Traitor Legios) and the Sabbat Worlds Crusade background book. It's really cool.

[@garretth8224]

Gaunts Ghosts also had a book involving the Sabbat system.

[@Pizzifrizzo]

@@garretth8224 Indeed, the whole series is set in the Sabbat Worlds, with a focus on Urdesh in the last few novels. I recommended the background book because it gives a bird's eye view of the region's history and because I'm more of a background guy myself.

[@farkasmactavish]

Well this completely changes what I had planned tonight!

[@UpperNileGuy]

​My house just had a piece of a missle fall through it and crush my computer😭😭😭​@@Machoman50ta

[@LinkLegend0]

Lutein dude, you have kind of repeated yourself for the past 10 videos about defending how you rationalize lore. Sometimes I just wanna zone out on the lore. It's gotten to the point where I can predict how you're gonna defend your position because you've clarified it so many times. Your position is clear dude. We support you. You don't need to prove yourself to anyone, especially a loud minority. Can you go back to just making dope lore videos with a clear focus on the lore. Your writing speaks for itself man, don't feel the need to defend it from those who don't get it. Doing that in every video really dilutes your quality works. Edit: thanks for addressing it man, much love.

[@yanntrokhymenko9775]

As interesting a criticism as that is, and much as I agree with, Luetin’s discussions adds depth and a unique subjective standpoint that is hard to come across, making it the perfect STC model for navigating the 40k verse

[@Bleiser3]

@@yanntrokhymenko9775 yup fully agree. while it is true that some self defending of his position is redundant, it does add to the fun of the video because the writing that Luetin does is just very high quality one.

[@cosmictreason2242]

@@Bleiser3 i think I've heard it in 4 videos in as many years

[@ElectricalExistence]

Th imperium is under assault from from blackrock and vanguard. We now how to gate keep WH40k from GW itself who are bringing a Dark age of Diversity upon us. Get ready for female custodes and space marines fellas. Gw just announced the lady custodes "have always existed"

[@Perkustin]

So true, i think he needs to do like a Final Word video on his position and close the book on it.

[@andrewgagne4465]

How does it feel to be the single best 40k content creator in the world? It must be lonely at the top ❤

[@Sara3346]

What about oculus imperia?

[@Bleiser3]

He is not lonely on the top, he has family and he has huge audience of viewers and supporters. He is far from lonely! :)

[@steelgreyed]

Luetin knows the best of quiet trolling methods. "The most modern aircraft available!" Video features an F-5, an aircraft developed in the 1950's.... That being said the silly little thing has remained relevant for 70 years because of its versatility and sparseness of repair/maintenance needs. Like the more famous A-10 its frame design is so close to perfect, one can not just causally toss it aside.

[@IncredibleManx]

Get that bag king.

[@nathanmoore101]

Wtf r u on about bruv??? Warhammer.

[@steelgreyed]

@@nathanmoore101 just hoping the Mechanicus finds an STC for the F-5 one day and learns how to zerg rush the Tyranid with millions of them.

[@12SickOne34]

Man, do I love random education. Appreciated

[@GaryBowen00]

Especially relevant with today's events in the Middle East. Iran used the F-5 in the early 2000s and rebuilt a fighter based on the design that is part of their Air Force. All the military people laugh at using such an old design but the same people are also very aware our military is so technology dependent that the F-35 without access to data or its own computer systems not working would drop from the sky like a 70 million stone.

[@seansteele6532]

You know what galaxy wide empire NEVER forgets when it loses a world? Super Earth.

[@enigma9273]

MY LIFE FOR SUPER EARTH

[@jorgerodrigues1984]

Sweet liberty!

[@samaritan_sys]

The Creek broke before the Helldivers did.

[@michaellee1244]

Super Earth and Managed Democracy are heresy. Holy Terra and our God Emperor are the true path.

[@krishonk7754]

There's a mechanic that prevents death in that game called Democracy Protects, and it's real obvious what parallels it's making. I love it. You can replace "The Emperor" with "Democracy" and be perfectly in character just making Warhammer 40K callouts. Try it some time, it's fun!

[@NornQueenKya]

Home world is where the heart is. Unfortunately my heart was ripped out by a death guard and I lost it

[@ignusthemad3150]

well i can replace using my sorcery.... i can return the time on chest only..... but i don't guarrant that you don't will grow feather or beak

[@mitchelarchbold9219]

Can I replace it with a vortex grenade?

[@misteranderbro2328]

I don't know about anyone else, but this Ret Conn character seems to upset a lot of people in the 40k lore.

[@cosmictreason2242]

Rhett Conn is op pls nerf

[@TheKlink]

and it's always been the case. and the station has always been an orange.

[@someoneelse1011]

An agent of the tentacle one

[@sparking023]

This is a multiversal character that upsets many lore nerds, inside and outside of 40k

[@misteranderbro2328]

@@sparking023 So 40k has a multiverse?

[@baxterdevin]

As someone who has never played and only watches for the story and TTRPG inspiration, your process is amazing and your particular insights invaluable. Thank you for making this fun to watch

[@davidmiddleton7958]

In older lore, the only thing found of Rogal Dorn was his hand! And that hand was encased in amber! GW really needs to get it's act together on this! Alot of the old lore could still have been incorporated into more modern 40k!

[@EvLch3dd4r]

I don't know what I want Leutin to cover, until I read the title of the newest video and think "I didn't know I wanted that, but I really do". Thank you for all of your hard work Loremaster!

[@Zyddie]

Luetin video on a Saturday yay! ❤

[@coreytaylor5386]

reminder, a loose collections of weapons from humanity's golden age was able to not just fend off but DECIMATE a full invasion fleet of a powerful Necron dynasty

[@mahoganydoughnut6082]

Cawl pushed a button and it deleted a large part of the fleet and some of the planet he was on.

[@TemptationsEnd]

@@mahoganydoughnut6082only cawl could come up with a plan like that and a way to survive it 😂

[@phase_shifter1375]

What is the name of the book this awesomeness takes place 😮

[@gunrunner2437]

​@@phase_shifter1375following for an answer

[@farisal-rdani401]

⁠@@phase_shifter1375think it was the pariah nexus book that came out kinda recently. And “decimate” is a strong word, Necrons and ad mech both unleashed some of their sealed weaponry, to disastrous consequences. Context id important in this story so check it out. I think Luetin may even have a vid on it?

[@ignaciomoreno9655]

32:30 If the assasin could think and reason, that alone discards a lot of assasin temples.😂😂

[@benparker1822]

This line of speculation is fun. It reminds me of a thought: What if some of the old ones decided to go into hiding, and still hide away in a pocket dimension? And, what if they're working with some of the potential advanced star empires that embrace multiracial alliances? This idea is a grain of a thought behind my custom Knights of the Zodiac 'marine' force/faction.

[@mariboustate4707]

The years are rolling by and I'm still watching every Luetin09 video I can get my eyeballs on. Never disappointed. Keep up the great work friend.

[@deaconsanddragons]

I have a master’s degree in Medieval Studies. That’s 1000 years. My speciality was literally 1 religious order founded by 1 saint, and only for its first 400 years. The writings are…”with agenda” is how I would put it, making things even harder to describe. So, I’ll say this. I love these videos. I’m not a Warhammer reader or player. My only access to the “verse” as the sexy people say, is KZbin videos. I love the longer, complex ideas and theories because this type of topic requires so much set up that most people give up early on in thee video. But, I see it as sort of putting footnotes into the “paper” so to speak. Again, my sliver of the Middle Ages requires tons of setup just like most of his work does. Sure, I can jump in with “and then x starts” but it wouldn’t make sense any more than trying to explain the American Revolution by starting with July 4th.

[@joeblack5393]

Luetin... dude... What a video... Seriously your videos are approaching high budget television entertainment quality levels. 10/10

[@samroberts6697]

I will be getting acquainted with this later on with some space cabbage and my imagination. All hail the Lore Father 🙏

[@johnphillips4708]

ahh a man class and high culture I see : )

[@bikehunter82]

Already there bro!!!!! I am already "there" and saw this vid drop.... I AM THERE BRO!!!!

[@redhandtheblack]

I am also, already there! :)

[@samroberts6697]

@@johnphillips4708 ahhh always good to see another Gentleman of exquisite taste in the comments.

[@luckylarry71]

That one frame of Charles Dance towards the end, brought a tear in to my eye. I imagine that few people actually know/remember today, that in the original script of Alien³, the planet the Ripley's EEV crashes into is populated entirely by monks, and this shot of Clemens, which comes from the director's cut, radiates this monastic and contemplative vibe that fit beautifully into LT's rambling 🖤

[@Sara3346]

Wait what? Darn I missed the easter egg.

[@TheBestJeff345]

You thought you could toss in Futurama and I wouldn't notice? Good show, sir!

[@Czzor]

The imperial guard video will be glorious

[@mantha6912]

what is the Imperial Guard video?

[@tpry1]

One of my favorite notifications to get.

[@danielmartin7838]

I absolutely love the ambiguous nature of the lore. It breathes a breath of life into the story that you’d be hard pressed to find elsewhere outside of real life. Great vid!

[@VelvetGoldminer]

What happened to the Interex? Feels like theirs was a story worth hearing. Certainly more than a mere plot tool for the fall of Horus

[@sceligator]

They got genocided by the Lunar Woves

[@VelvetGoldminer]

@@sceligator did they? When did that happen?

[@baronvoncash]

@@VelvetGoldminer If I remember correctly it was either the same book they got introduced, or one of the next two novels following Horus's fall. They were kind of a quick side plot point imo

[@fallenangel100197]

Always the perfect timing whenever I'm craving for something to just listen to outside of audiobooks, you sir have my gratitude

[@Twy87]

Whoever authored 'The Monastry of Death' was taking more than a little inspiration from 'A Canticle for Leibowitz'.

[@joshuacrosby4042]

You’re a great story teller. I am always very entertained listening to you as each tale unfolds. This is beyond other lore channels in this regard.

[@shanevalentine4009]

Just when I needed a bedtime story! Thanks Luetin!

[@S3rial85]

Perfect, i wanted to go to bed in like 10 minutes :)

[@rossalexander4772]

I don’t even play 40k anymore but I consume everything Luetin09 serves up. You are creating some amazing content chief, keep it up

[@Muskelbiber007]

For someone, who is not that deep into the lore and just listens to these out of curiosity, i personally do like it, when you share your perspective on why you take certain pieces of information and grant them the benefit of doubt or not. It makes it easier for myself, to put it into perspective. Thanks for all your effort.

[@RawbDawggin]

Great video, I think there were some great points made as well. The clarification of why canon isn’t a thing in 40k, how information can be lost in and out of the verse, and the fact that there are many secrets right underneath the Imperium’s nose, underscore the multitude of possibilities we could see eventually unfold in the 40k verse, which is fascinating yet also bleakly comical. The void is the limit, also great connective piece to what you’re building up to LT, keep it up 👍

[@1337joshb]

Praise Luetin!

[@Nothing-1w3]

Praise!

[@johngz3413]

An stc is a blanket for all the different factors in a templates creation, including the mechanical sample in complete and disassembled forms

[@jayvox6679]

The absolute facts about how lore needs to be done completely overshadowed by GW's take on Custodes today. cant wait to see how you feel about it

[@Sara3346]

I don't see how thats more relevant thaan STC type stuff.

[@sickofwashington]

@@Sara3346 One day there magically appeared female custodes while GW frantically claims there always were... Unless STG now stands for "shut the gate", I respectfully disagree.

[@Bleiser3]

Yea, GW is only ever slowly losing their fight against chaos corruption. it gets worse by every year.

[@willmosse3684]

I might be wrong, but I don’t think Luetin is going to be super upset about the Femstodian. He explained in this video about the whole RetCon thing, and how lore is constantly tweaked and revised and that is to be understood as part of the character of 40K history and lore. I don’t see why having a few female Custodians inserted into the history is causing so much anger. My facebook feed is stuffed full of people losing their shit about it. Why does it matter so much?

[@Sara3346]

@@sickofwashington What's ''magical' about it? There never was a statement that they didn't exist in canon. This hardly even as large a revealation as custodes in general becoming active outside terra, or primaris marines, etc.

[@tubeschwarzbrot]

Funny how you cover this book right now. Not long ago I ordered some used books and got the original edition of deathwatch instead of some other 40k rulebook. All stories were somewhat funny to read - they all felt kind of naive and pieced together like the lore of most other games. Somewhat like the first Perry Rhodan stories. Especially considering the quality and amount of lore we have today, this short story was a real standout to me. It fit in the picture we have today, it has far-reaching implications and does in no way feel odd or outdated like most of the other stories did. Your take on it is great as always. Thank you.

[@cappinjocj9316]

For me it isn’t a proper Luetin vid if there isn’t a spiderweb graph to explain and support the dissertation.

[@Noahblondheim2]

I do find it insightful to hear about your thought process on canon lore. It's helped me shed light on my own thoughts on what I'll consider "canon" or not.

[@richardnelson354]

Your “rambles” are some of my favorite parts of the episodes.

[@blackalgae370]

This is such a good video! They could say that "variants" in the lore are cannon because of the existing cannon. The inquisition has a department for dealing with time travel. So they have been "fixing" time to keep it on the "correct" corse.

[@fauxtool952]

I like how these videos are 60% context we already know, 30% preamble and 10% relevant to the title. Ramble on

[@sejannus877]

9:00 the world you describe is Lair and the Interects.

[@SuNStereO]

Praise the algo god

[@EstParum]

STCs for me have 3 parts. 1 part, most common, is like the Wikipedia and bunch of Blueprints. Tons of variations of batteries, vehicles etc. Then there is an AI/search function/complier that can select/modify/calculate needs/specs. Then there is the least common. A hangar sized 3d printer/constructionFab building.

[@awesomehpt8938]

I wanna know what’s happening with Carlos McConnell. Where are the cat girls?!?!?

[@tarryncooper4742]

Listened to ABorder Prince's telling of this recently, like a couple months ago. Was definitely my favorite! Can you talk about the book next where it's a functional Man of Iron that was hiding in the imperium? I believe it was a black citadel story.

[@v_artra5399]

I love the scene from furturama edited to look like an old photo or soemthing that's been redacted by the inquisition lol

[@jamesamos6565]

Can you time stamp?

[@nobleman9393]

@@jamesamos6565 3:03

[@lnAmberClad]

Imagine an empire like The Imperium just showing up to Earth. All the years we spent looking for aliens and wondering if we're alone in the universe only to find out that there are gazzilions of humans out there already fighting the aliens. The whole time it was just that no one had noticed us.

[@ZontarDow]

I know that this script was likely written over weeks and you couldn't have known what was coming, but the section on lore is somewhat amusing to see given how it came out right as GW took the formal stance that lore just doesn't matter and they make no attempt to keep things internally consistent now. Then again how could anyone predict they'd more or less admit that they hold those who care about the lore and buy Black Library books in contempt and only don't close black library due to the fact they would be violating feditiary duty to the shareholders given despite their best efforts it's still profitable.

[@eyespliced]

Oh no, something you don't like but most people just shrug about and move on happened. Bruh, there have always been women space marines. why would custodes actually be different? (before you clutch your pearls, it's true. there used to be female space marines figures, and neckbeards also got mad about it then and they didn't sell well at the time (80's) and GW removed the casting molds from the production - this is real, and happened before "the lore" that's being so violated was even written) If you don't like it, you could stop playing warhammer. _That'll show em!_ I personally know several people who are way, way more into warhammer than i am who are super excited about it. I genuinely don't care, and given how dogshite GW has _always_ been about lore continuity, I'm just not sure why there being female custodes matters in the grand scheme of things.

[@ZontarDow]

@@eyespliced I like how you people constantly expose how disconnected you are from the wider community without any thought.

[@eyespliced]

@@ZontarDow lmao. "you people" riiight. be mad. be so, soooo mad. Ain't gonna change a thing. Oook oook says the Ogryn. (it you)

[@ZontarDow]

@@eyespliced It's amazing the audacity with which you people pretend to be morally superior when everyone knows what you support, it's no wonder you all think prisons shouldn't exist.

[@ZontarDow]

@@eyespliced It's amazing the smug sense of superiority you people have, as if we aren't all aware of your political beliefs.

[@pianospawn1]

Believing what lore you feel is true fits extremely well for a faction based war game (with many equally diverse sub factions and sub-sub factions). Players will be able to choose a team to play in the game that fits what they think is the truth. It's actually a really good design of writing for its purpose.

[@sebastianheidler4726]

The stars have aligneded, lietin and pancresnowork drop on the same day. Somewhere within the realms, a Iterator and a Magejust saw each others reflection in the Warp

[@monkeyskitz]

Long ass shift over from the pub, home, shower and a luetin video. Not a bad saturday night

[@BrotherRoga]

The Rogue Trader music works so well in these videos.

[@Bla5turbator]

Video starts at 19:40 lads

[@NopainNoGain-wq8bn]

I don’t know whether I should thank Luetin or not. Because of his very elaborative and interesting videos I ve immersed myself for hundreds of hours into the Warhammer 40 k/ Horus heresy verse. Luetin is like an easy starting drug to sth much harder and darker. 🎨🖌️📖❤😂😂 the best times I have is when I listen to bangers like the Eisenhorn or ravenor series on the bike. ❤❤❤❤ much love

[@themetroidprime]

Here it is. The last 40k video I'll ever watch.

[@butHomeisNowhere___]

Wait why?

[@foxen1914]

Thanks for getting me into 40k now i am reading a lot of books. Think i also seen all your videos love your work! Gotta watch your videos immediately when they come out.

[@jfwizard1]

Custodes were never female.

[@Sara3346]

I don't understand why that is at all important.

[@jfwizard1]

​@Sara3346 because things as they are matter, and make the setting what it is. Changing them for the pure purpose of having equality is political, and therefore dangerous and antithetical to the setting we love.

[@Sara3346]

@@jfwizard1 Mate there is no such thing as apolitical writing, it's like seeing a unicorn in a garden. People just don't complain about the policial messages they like or due to under education fail to notice. This doesn't even contradict anything established. Robute Guillimen coming back to life was much more setting breaking and far more blatantly political than this and yet the moaning about that is much less.

[@joshuakirkham9593]

Every video by Luetin09 is worth clicking on immediately. This one is no exception.

[@columreddy]

At the unreliable narrator portion. We need your take on the female custodian controversy.

[@1985slipstream]

Always enjoy the content on planets. Resource worlds and hive world life are constant rewatches for me.

[@SchollarOfThefArts]

Can you please just label a chapter of the video "Retcon Waffle Again" each time you talk about it so we can easily skip it? 🙏

[@glopop2011]

This is a great vid! STC's are fun as the holy grail ever just out of reach of imperial hands. It would be fun to see what the imperium would do if it ever got its hands on a fully functional STC, but it seems like it would be such a gamebreaking amount of power that it wont happen

[@mybackup8696]

GW have probably retconed the Planets to Women's only Collectives and the STCs now a Puberty Blocker Transition Clinic

[@seankane8628]

Your insecurities are showing

[@CodexNecronomicon]

Hi Luitin, love your videos, i walk to work (mostly to be outside as i work in a office) and they are perfect to zone out a bit and enjoy the journey. I started my own channel in my spare time, and its made me really appreciate the hard work you must put in. Thank you very much and keep at it! Subbed.

[@jesseogden9596]

Go ahead and skip the first 20 minutes lmao

[@JohnTandy74]

That was brilliant… at the very end I said aloud in perfect synchrony with you “The most important planet in the galaxy “ Great vid bro

[@c0mplicatec0mplicate30]

GW confirmed female custodies, i wonder whats your opinion on this. Personally im done with warhammer stuff. Im tired of this.

[@bloodgoat]

There was a time where nerds just wanted to be around a woman, ANY woman. Now? Not so much. Dudes are afraid of em so much that they can’t even stand to have them in their fantasies lololololololll

[@GaryBowen00]

The timing couldn't be more perfect. I'm reading an older book called, "Dark Adeptus" which is a Grey Knights story. A forge world isn't rediscovered as much as it reenters regular space after a thousand years in warp but only 100 years in regular time. If you haven't read a book about what happens when the Inquisition and Mars start arguing over potential for new technology versus a planet that has been completely corrupted by Chaos this book is a great start.

[@NamNguyen-zm2cg]

In case anybody was looking up the music in these videos, the song played in the Ad is Total Control by Sam Will

[@rahman9749]

I just woke up to this after a long day of trip. Bless you, Luetin.

[@PowerBog-uy8rx]

Terminus Decree contains a fully intact STC, malcador never really trusted the emperor. Kept one to hide away till it was time to use it

[@Bleiser3]

This is why I watch your videos! Thank you! Every minute and second of the video is well worth it! You always continue to amaze with your videos, Luetin! Thank you!

[@matthewharris7012]

Always love a new luetin video. Thank you so much for all the years of hard work!

[@davea99]

God I love the old school lore so much.

[@NexusDDD]

I would Love a bastion of Humanity that was a remnant from the Golden Age, Like with a fully functional intact STC and *ALL* the knowledge there-in. But knowing that they cant fight the Imperium so they just kinda... Fudge some numbers and just perfectly meet quotas so no one ever visits.

[@signoguns8501]

Who did did that painting at 36:06? Anyone know what its called? I love that. You should maybe include artwork credit in the description or something as 40k art is incredible. They deserve some credit, so more people can check them out, maybe even buy some stuff.

[@rayquevedo2356]

I honestly miss the old lore videos but did i save most of this video till my day off? You bet your best augmentation I did

[@adamkevill6557]

I started a new job with lots of required driving hours. LT, you were awesome before, but now you're essential listening on those long drives on the open road!

[@AsbestosMuffins]

when its funny: theres admech walkers that they do not know the rituals to turn back on, so they just put them on treadmills when they are not being used. when its sad: entire planets go dark because some infinetly old piece of technology gets broken

[@RadeFoxxy]

I use Claude AI to help me write adventures, it has a solid grasp of rpg mechanics. It takes usually 4 or 5 human interactions/tweaks/edits per step to really make the story shine. But it's so good at driving down into details and exposition, between the 2 of us, I feel it really aids me as a GM.

[@philmccrack698]

After your first video about Lost Worlds I started making a techno barbariam themed regiment of Imperial Guard.

[@INSOMNIAREX]

I still have my mint condition 40k Rogue Trader rule/story book from the late 80's. One of my favourite books to this day.

[@Archon3960]

I wonder if the Imperium's records mentioned this planet, but got lost (not destroyed, lost) and they had no idea what they were sailing towards. 😂

[@mattstakeontheancients7594]

Right as he was describing the STC my first thought was why didn’t the emperor save any STCs. Think he wanted humanity advanced but not so advanced they would ever rebel. Didn’t work out to well did it.

[@rene9892]

gotta comment to support our boy, the aetherial voice of 40k lore and sleep. I swear brother, you have me dreaming about the 41st millenium