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LOtR LCG Revised Core Set Review - with Bryan

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@TheDevilsAdvocate415
@TheDevilsAdvocate415 2 жыл бұрын
Favorite Co-Op is The Arkham Horror LCG! Hence why I'm interested in this revised LOTR game since they just redid Arkham's as well!
@mikehuff2693
@mikehuff2693 Жыл бұрын
I used to be a fan of AH LCG but the setup was too much of a pain. I like the setup and pace of LOTR LCG much better.
@ErikEliason012
@ErikEliason012 3 жыл бұрын
This game right here! LotR LCG forever and always my #1
@DicetowerBryan
@DicetowerBryan 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff!
@bordspil_is
@bordspil_is 3 жыл бұрын
Arkham Horror LCG is my #1. The most awesome game in the world
@starxhilmie
@starxhilmie 3 жыл бұрын
that shit hard as fuck
@ialvarez6294
@ialvarez6294 2 жыл бұрын
Great break down !..Good work Drake, as always.... the real important question is " where can I get that playmat?!!!!"... I don't care what it cost
@williamblack6912
@williamblack6912 3 жыл бұрын
I hope they reprint some of the older stuff and solo scenarios.
@fufu1405
@fufu1405 2 жыл бұрын
@Gankatron 5000 They seriously need to print the expansions as a whole complete thing and not make us buy an expansion and hunt down packs which you need to complete the expansion. Absolutely retarded system and it keeps a crazy amount of people from getting into the hobby.
@redtailedhawkdude
@redtailedhawkdude 2 жыл бұрын
I actually own theoriginal core set adn about three of the expansions but I never actually managed to play it. I wanted to collect all the boxes but if theyre going to revise every expansion I think I'll just wait and buy them that way.
@kennethdwyer3143
@kennethdwyer3143 3 жыл бұрын
Lord of the Rings LCG.. I’m lucky to own all cards outside the POD. It definitely has its issues and quirks but it’s an absolute classic and the story missions are fantastic. Partial to a bit of Gloomhaven too
@robkeeley1570
@robkeeley1570 2 жыл бұрын
I'm on the fence with this it looks amazing but I'm already deep in with marvel champions and have everything that has been released, but with LOTR do I really want to get stuck I to another LCG?
@BradyJacksonWolfe
@BradyJacksonWolfe 2 жыл бұрын
@@robkeeley1570 I got into both this and Marvel Champions. I ended up selling Marvel Champions for that very reason that two LCGs was too much to really enjoy either one for me. I used the money from selling MC for more LOTR …
@TheDarktater
@TheDarktater 2 жыл бұрын
Did they fix having to buy multiple copies of the core set to get the full card set? If so I might re-buy this one as well.
@AFatalPapercut
@AFatalPapercut 2 жыл бұрын
yes there's enough for 4 in the box
@TheRealMrWolf
@TheRealMrWolf 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite is Spirit Island, which is imho the best game ever made and then Arkham Horror is a very close second. I think that they fixed many of the issues from LotR there and also the art direction is just amazing.
@sandracarvalho6140
@sandracarvalho6140 3 жыл бұрын
LOtR LCG is not only my favorite co-op but it's my favorite game ever! Let's goooo revised core set!!
@DicetowerBryan
@DicetowerBryan 3 жыл бұрын
Nice choice!
@jimpanse6142
@jimpanse6142 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite is Dice Throne Adventures and the Loop - really like your reviews!
@DicetowerBryan
@DicetowerBryan 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I need to try these!
@COTRPodcast
@COTRPodcast 3 жыл бұрын
tough call...just kidding. LOTR LCG!!
@BoardGameTime40
@BoardGameTime40 2 жыл бұрын
Favorite coop is spirit island! Thanks for the review!
@kattattack2231
@kattattack2231 2 жыл бұрын
Lotr lcg is my favorite co-op and favorite game overall.
@AmmoniteDragon
@AmmoniteDragon Жыл бұрын
Dead of Winter is my favorite co-op board game! However, I haven’t played that many, so I don’t have a huge sample size to refer to.
@voronwecalanon206
@voronwecalanon206 3 жыл бұрын
Is it fully compatible with the old stuff?
@kattattack2231
@kattattack2231 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@GuardianAngelEatos
@GuardianAngelEatos 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know this was a physical card game as well! I discovered this game on the Switch a few years ago and just bought it a few months ago and love it, and just found out less than an hour ago that a physical version exists! The physical card game is a bit different, but it retains a lot of the core mechanics. Now you mentioned being able to build your own decks for this game as well. Are there separate expansions or cards to purchase for creating your own decks, or does it come with the default game?
@brandon-butler
@brandon-butler 2 жыл бұрын
There’s lots of extra expansions :)
@mydemon
@mydemon 2 жыл бұрын
Bryan made a lot of progress in these reviews, but maybe having a script ahead of time would make the ending video a little bit better structured and crisper and to the point
@kellinwinslow1988
@kellinwinslow1988 3 жыл бұрын
My favorites are still Star Trek Frontiers as well as games like Sword And Sorcery and Gloomhaven. Star Trek especially I never get sick of as it works better than Mage Knight and the theme is really strong. I like Arkham Horror LCG but it's not always what I would call fun. Too punishing at times, although not as bad as the original Arkham Horror,and I actually like the card play better in Frontiers. Might have to try this LCG though since I love LOTR Journey In Middle Earth and just picked up the new Spreading War expansion. Haven't tried Return To Dark Tower yet,way too hard to find now,so that might get on there as well.
@triplez5595
@triplez5595 2 жыл бұрын
Can you play the revised version with the old expansions?
@ericjohnson3387
@ericjohnson3387 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, everything is fully compatible. It’s basically a reprint of the original with some campaign cards and a few extra things thrown in.
@cartergreen2309
@cartergreen2309 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite co op is my favorite game, Marvel Champions
@gears6986
@gears6986 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get that playmat?
@inoutsoccer11
@inoutsoccer11 2 жыл бұрын
Favorite coop games include the pandemic legacy series and Aeons end. I’ve never played this game, but am going to try and pick it up.
@MyKonaRC
@MyKonaRC 3 жыл бұрын
What happens when we have all the heroes committed to travel and two enemies attacking? How does combat work? I can't defend, do the heroes still incur damage?
@DicetowerBryan
@DicetowerBryan 3 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly right. Ideally you’ll ping pong turns between removing threats and questing. This is the main puzzle of the game as you’ll take damage no matter what if engaged.
@amsfountain8792
@amsfountain8792 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. You need to have some characters traveling and some defending and some more attacking. If you doesnt defend the enemies will attack you and kill your heroes pretty soon.
@TheTomAbz
@TheTomAbz 2 жыл бұрын
Spirit Island. Its so complex and its always a blast so much variety aswell
@trieditgal5764
@trieditgal5764 2 жыл бұрын
Should I buy the Revised Core Set? I have one copy of the LOtR the original core set and we will use it as a 2-player only. We haven't played it yet.
@ctrosejr
@ctrosejr 3 жыл бұрын
Right now, my favorite co-op is Marvel Champions. When I was just new in the hobby, I tried the LOTR LCG. I just tried it with the core set. I didn’t know that FFG had the habit of requiring 2 core sets to really play the game. After several frustrating solo plays, I packed it up and traded it away. Now, as I am a more experienced gamer, and with this revised core set, I am curious about trying it again. At the same time, I now have other games that I now play, like Champions, so it’s got a higher bar to pass now.
@DicetowerBryan
@DicetowerBryan 3 жыл бұрын
That used to be so annoying having to buy two.
@RandomPerson-nd2ey
@RandomPerson-nd2ey 3 жыл бұрын
@@DicetowerBryan Yeah, it was. They announced the revised core for Arkham revised core shortly after I bought the original core. Thanks FFG...
@Jezza_One
@Jezza_One 2 жыл бұрын
@@DicetowerBryan Three if you wanted a full set of Gandalf cards.
@mikewilliams736
@mikewilliams736 2 жыл бұрын
Question: How do I know the difference between the revised one and the old one?
@DicetowerBryan
@DicetowerBryan 2 жыл бұрын
The cover art is different if that helps?
@mikewilliams736
@mikewilliams736 2 жыл бұрын
@@DicetowerBryan Yeah, I already have the game. Thank you. :)
@ransombaggins9301
@ransombaggins9301 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! Liked and Subbed! Question: At the end you mentioned wishing you had your old copy/version of the game. Can you tell me why, specifically? Was there something special about that version that makes you prefer it over the new revised version? Just curious. Thanks!
@exiledsonofhawaii3934
@exiledsonofhawaii3934 4 ай бұрын
Probably because of the amount of cards. This game was really challenging to hunt for specific cards. Very hard as I don’t think there was a secondary market for singles. I had to proxy a ton of cards because I had gotten into it when most sets were oop.
@ryanbuell4692
@ryanbuell4692 3 жыл бұрын
Mine would have to be Zombicide :-)
@jodymitchell1678
@jodymitchell1678 3 жыл бұрын
Why do we not get seals of approval/excellence from you Brian?
@BillyIndiana
@BillyIndiana 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite games 🔥
@meravl7615
@meravl7615 3 жыл бұрын
I was really hoping for a comparison video. :( Anyway, thanks Brian.
@joelbloch08
@joelbloch08 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I am surprised you compare it to Arkham Horror, which more on the narrative side, and has way more randomness, rather than to Marvel Champions, which is more abstract and focuses more on deck building. So if you were to compare it to MC, what would be your pick, in terms of gameplay and mechanics?
@DicetowerBryan
@DicetowerBryan 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a good point, I think because I’m my mind the release order is why I made the comparison more so than style albeit that might not be quite fair. The MC system is very tight and feels much more like you are playing as your character where this is you playing as a Fellowship on a larger scale story so it’s more abstract. I’d pick this one but maybe because I’ve played it more.
@TwoLastNames
@TwoLastNames 2 жыл бұрын
I would disagree that Arkham has more randomness. I feel that Arkham took a lot of issues with the LotR system and addressed them, one of them being how a bad draw in LotR can absolutely wreck you. Another issue with LotR (and this is purely opinion), is that it can be very time consuming to rebuild your deck prior to each scenario in a cycle, simply to have a shot at winning it. I love LotR and the puzzly nature of the deck-building, but I think Arkham is much more straightforward and streamlined.
@johnathankokoski
@johnathankokoski Жыл бұрын
Spirit Island! But LotR LCG is in top 5 and by FAR my most played game.
@WitchDoctor87
@WitchDoctor87 2 жыл бұрын
I'm leaning to Maximum apocalypse is my favorite coop game. I'm really interested in Lord of the Rings lcg and one day plan to get it. I kinda feel like I will like Arkham over LoR living card game actually. Thanks for the video
@redtailedhawkdude
@redtailedhawkdude 2 жыл бұрын
I want to play that one but I missed the kickstarter for it.
@stealthshadowsquid5674
@stealthshadowsquid5674 3 жыл бұрын
Marvel champions, Arkham horror and gloomhaven!
@DicetowerBryan
@DicetowerBryan 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent choices!
@Ranerdar
@Ranerdar 3 жыл бұрын
Arkham Horror LCG and Zombicide. My favorite co-ops.
@DicetowerBryan
@DicetowerBryan 3 жыл бұрын
I can only play Zombicide solo in case I need a rewind button lol!
@Tech875O
@Tech875O Жыл бұрын
Great review. Thanks, Bryan. It does say something that you got rid of the game at some point. There must have been a reason, whether the gameplay, replayability, etc, why you chose to oust it from your collection, and as a potential buyer, that is a little concerning.
@eddieharr
@eddieharr 3 жыл бұрын
after watching 3 how to play/reviews I have determined this game has the most confusing convoluted rules ive ever seen
@DicetowerBryan
@DicetowerBryan 3 жыл бұрын
It is tough to explain due to it’s more abstract nature but it really flows while playing.
@macewindont9922
@macewindont9922 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, 7 phases per round is a lot, but it's fun when you learn how to abuse certain windows.
@TBHJR
@TBHJR 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. I tried to learn and play on my own and had the most frustrating time. I always lost too.
@GeoffFerreira-s5b
@GeoffFerreira-s5b Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your perspective but I disagree that it's an easy game to teach and learn. I'm a new player that enjoys some complex games like Magic the Gathering. I do enjoy the game but the 7 phases and specific timing for action windows takes time to fully grasp. I also find that quest and enemy/ally abilities triggering as specific phases can be overlooked especially while learning. Depending on how many simultaneous triggers exist at once, this can be tedious. Its certainly a good game, but it requires patience to learn and appreciate the puzzle that it is.
@andrejespersen8634
@andrejespersen8634 3 жыл бұрын
I do wanna point out it looks like its the same cards and is the old core set only difference is you get x3 of copies you only got 1 or 2 of in the old core set. ( normally this problem is in MANY LCG games ) the way we got around this was we bought 2 core sets. ( commen for games like LOTR. Netrunner, Star wars LCG and so on (problem is the lack of copies were you are allowed to put more in the deck to make it as good as possible. if you own 2 core sets there is no need for this after looking at the card list of this box.
@DicetowerBryan
@DicetowerBryan 3 жыл бұрын
This is correct and they are crossplay.
@rattenusrattoonus1880
@rattenusrattoonus1880 3 жыл бұрын
Arkham Horror LCG is my current favorite!
@itsMARTIKAI
@itsMARTIKAI 3 жыл бұрын
Like the Arn Anderson T-shirt... AEW?
@DicetowerBryan
@DicetowerBryan 3 жыл бұрын
He’s the best in ring worker maybe ever! AEW!
@domdombear
@domdombear 2 жыл бұрын
What are the major differences between this and the regular core set? I've got a fair chunk of the cards and I'm hoping this isn't going the way of X-wing, where I have to almost replace/upgrade everything.
@brandon-butler
@brandon-butler 2 жыл бұрын
I think it has 3 copies of all the cards. Previously you’d have to buy 3 copies of a core set to get e copies.
@jdebarr
@jdebarr 3 жыл бұрын
I am more of a fan of semi-coop games like Thunderstone Quest and Marvel legendary. For Coop I really like Sword And Sorcery and Mansions of madness.
@twitchster77
@twitchster77 2 жыл бұрын
Freaking love this game. I have 3 of the core sets and each adventure from the first 2 cycles (as well as a couple bigger expansions). $70 seems way too much for a starter here though IMHO. Wasn't the original starter $30? (I payed $18 each for mine).
@redtailedhawkdude
@redtailedhawkdude 2 жыл бұрын
The revised core sets have enough cards in them for a 4 player game so you don't have to buy a second one like you used to if you wanted to do a 4P. Also, if you don't get it off fantasyflight itself you can find it cheaper than 70. Also, if you think about it this way origial starter is 30. Many people bought two. They already paid 60 for the starter lol
@passikor566
@passikor566 2 жыл бұрын
Do I need to buy the revised if I have the original?
@TheBrodyman
@TheBrodyman 3 жыл бұрын
Love the shirt!
@DicetowerBryan
@DicetowerBryan 3 жыл бұрын
All about the Spine buster.
@TheBrodyman
@TheBrodyman 3 жыл бұрын
@@DicetowerBryan And stopping carjackings! 👉🏻
@DicetowerBryan
@DicetowerBryan 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBrodyman oh man yes what a great reference!!!!
@ACosmonaut
@ACosmonaut 3 жыл бұрын
Cthulhu Death May Die
@DicetowerBryan
@DicetowerBryan 3 жыл бұрын
Still haven’t tried it.
@JoeyjojoShabadoo7
@JoeyjojoShabadoo7 3 жыл бұрын
Marvel Champions is my favorite coop
@paulosaraiva9929
@paulosaraiva9929 3 жыл бұрын
Spirit Island and Robinson Crusoe
@CriticalComplainer
@CriticalComplainer 2 жыл бұрын
Spirit Island > Arkham Horror LCG > Aeon's End is my top 3.
@KamiNoRanger99
@KamiNoRanger99 9 күн бұрын
Power Rangers Heroes of the Grid for me!
@FreeRangeDice
@FreeRangeDice 2 жыл бұрын
I have the original core set and some expansions. While it was nice, the price of this game is so much greater than Marvel Champions and AH, so I stopped. The increased cost is based on its focus. LOTR is more about deck construction (deck building like Magic) than anything else, so you need a lot of cards to get full experience from the game. MC and AH have deck construction but they are maybe 10-30% of your time in the games; LOTR is easily 50% or more. You need a lot of time and money to get to the same level of play you can get from casually playing the others. Sadly, it’s a lifestyle game and there are too many games out there just to dedicate all my time to this one game.
@warpaint9385
@warpaint9385 2 жыл бұрын
Fav co op game you ask, not this that’s for sure. Three things I disliked about this game. 1. The 3 lousy resources you get to pay for cards never seems like it’s enough. 2. The quest phase is ridiculous as sometimes your tapping so many characters just to beat the AI in the game you’ve got nobody left to do anything in other phases. 3. Some scenarios are just too hard unless you can put a winning deck together plus some luck. I’d rate AH The card game higher than this but don’t really have a favourite anyway. So yeah sorry… disagree. Love LotR but disappointed with this game which is a shame.
@Joe_whatuknow
@Joe_whatuknow 2 жыл бұрын
Back when I played LOTR cards it was not this at all....?
@tttopolis
@tttopolis 2 жыл бұрын
Tough to pin down just one. May sound taboo but Gloomhaven has to be my favorite, right behind Marvel Champions and Too Many Bones.
@jonofpdx
@jonofpdx 2 жыл бұрын
This was my favorite game for YEARS. But...I think the difficulty curve just got away from me. Easy mode usually cut the most interesting parts of a given scenario and playing with my gf who knew how to play but was not goin go want to learn a whole new deck that had to be built for every given scenario...it just fell off. Love the system. But I think Arkham handles the difficulty curve MUCH better. The most interesting stuff is in the standard difficulty and a good team if decks can tackle most any challenge with cards up to that point in release.
@Will_GM_for_Food
@Will_GM_for_Food 3 жыл бұрын
Easily Arkham Horror LCG.
@DicetowerBryan
@DicetowerBryan 3 жыл бұрын
It is tremendous
@theunsunghero9
@theunsunghero9 2 жыл бұрын
Really not sure about the game. The cards are beautiful, strong theme and very cool mechanics. But, I HATE the fact that you have to construct your deck between every scenario and that the only way to know what is coming, is to play and fail x amount of times, until you happen to get the right combo that beats it. Ruins it for me.
@HeroOfTheWeb
@HeroOfTheWeb 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the 'revised core set review" was going to talk about whats different. Not a 'how to play' LOTR LCG - which exists out there in many videos. Good production anyway.
@capmelonie
@capmelonie 3 жыл бұрын
Spirit island
@jasongrundy1717
@jasongrundy1717 3 жыл бұрын
Arkham Horror is a huge improvement. Many of the things that are covered by the core rules in Arkham, like maps and navigation, are very awkwardly kludged into LotR.
@Hudsonbba
@Hudsonbba 3 жыл бұрын
Just so you know Arkham was not designed to be an improvement of LoTR LCG even though many tout that like you are which is a massive disservice to the overall design. They were designed to be quite different games and to appeal to different crowds. Marvel Champions was however designed as a reimplementation of LoTR LCG.
@Hudsonbba
@Hudsonbba 3 жыл бұрын
Meant to state that MC reimplements parts of LotR closer than Arkham.
@draphsor
@draphsor 3 жыл бұрын
Gloomhaven takes the crown for me.
@DicetowerBryan
@DicetowerBryan 3 жыл бұрын
It’s so great.
@carlosr6462
@carlosr6462 3 жыл бұрын
Arn Anderson 👈
@BowmansWorld
@BowmansWorld 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds so damn confusing
@henrikwakman7776
@henrikwakman7776 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review! You seem to talk a bit slower which is good, sometimes you seem nervous for talking so fast.
@DicetowerBryan
@DicetowerBryan 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not nerves it’s just a terrible habit lol! You should hear Karla tell me through the curtain on stage sometimes lol.
@henrikwakman7776
@henrikwakman7776 3 жыл бұрын
@@DicetowerBryan well it was a lot better this time compared to something I watched earlier😁
@ComfyDents
@ComfyDents 2 жыл бұрын
Normally I hate all coop games. But tlotr lcg and magic maze are quite good.
@fufu1405
@fufu1405 2 жыл бұрын
What the hell is a revised core set gonna fix if all the expansions have the stupid issue of having to buy the expansion PLUS the individual packs which belong to the expansion? It's been 10 years and they still don't release the expansions as a complete thing. You go around online shops trying to find the expansion and the packs you need to have for the expansion. Absolutely disgusting and makes the game a pain in the ass to get into.
@kattattack2231
@kattattack2231 2 жыл бұрын
They're re-releasing some cycles with scenario boxes and player card boxes similar to the new Arkham release model.
@fufu1405
@fufu1405 2 жыл бұрын
@@kattattack2231 That's freaking amazing.
@Mcyabelo
@Mcyabelo 3 жыл бұрын
Gloomhaven
@youvegotmailed
@youvegotmailed 3 жыл бұрын
Marvel legendary!
@b.c.eckhoff3495
@b.c.eckhoff3495 3 жыл бұрын
Huh? That was the worst explanation of a game ever lol. But that said, I'm still excited to jump into this game with the revised sets.
@DicetowerBryan
@DicetowerBryan 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly you haven’t seen my Terraforming Mars video 😂
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