LOTR: The Two Towers - The Missing Information

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Aulë and Yavanna were married. You are probably going to write it in a comment anyway aren't you.

[@lokenontherange]

Actually Aulë and Yavanna were married.

[@juniorsmithersjs]

Haha, yeah I was going to. I recently started reading The Silmarillion and that was one detail I remembered instantly when you mentioned them.

[@hurtdude15]

Galu did you know Yavanna and Aule were married?

[@cass7448]

Galu some people seem to think Aule and Yavanna are married. Any thoughts on this?

[@tremoxo]

Aulë and Yavanna were married.

[@rodharrison3752]

It's going to be so crushing when Galu finally signs off. I live the way he can ramble about LotR while maintaining such a casual air. That something no other LotR channel does well.

[@ms_publisher7143]

😔

[@josephmort4039]

The other talky Ent was named Quickbeam and he amused Merry and Pipping to occupy them while all the other Ents were still considering whether or not to go f*ck up Isengard. Quickbeam had already decided to. Had the name Quickbeam because he was hasty.

[@lurchvater2387]

The jup jup jup thing is from the land before time, ducky is saying it

[@nottheeviltwin2]

Yaaaaas 🙌 absolutely thrilled someone knew that reference 😄 One of my favourite films as a child (even watched all the sing a long ones) 🤣

[@Soren015]

^Exactly right. The voice belongs to Judith Barsi, a child voice-actor who sadly passed at just age 10, but man she did get that catchphrase stuck in the brains of a whole generation...

[@lurchvater2387]

@@Soren015 wow, didn't know that I think I saw the movie once But we had a casette with the audiobook, heard it over and over.

[@MrHelllllloooooo]

Jess's Yep Yep Yep! Was from Land Before Time and it was Ducky

[@nottheeviltwin2]

Yaaaas 👏 love that you got this 😁

[@AlexG7772]

Great video from you both as always! Did you see that earlier in the year some Tolkien fans at NASA formally named Eärendil, the furthest identifiable star from Earth? I remember you saying that you were interested in all things space a while back. Hope to see a few more videos beyond the New Year farewell. But if not, all the very best!

[@gawinthegrey504]

Galu, I have been following you since the beginning of your work. From DAC version 0.5 I think. I love your videos, especially the Faction overviews. DAC is you, DAC stands and falls with you. You once saved him when you were the last member of the team left. And now with your departure the DAC has fallen. The state the game is in now, the nonsensical ideas and the total departure from the culture you and your team created, is pathetic. (That is, if another version ever comes out). You have your community, which has grown slowly but surely. The community that looked forward to the weekly lets plays and couldn't wait for the weekend F.O. Over the last 2 years you have made huge progress with the game, tweaking many things and adding great mechanics. And in the best shape the mod has ever had, you left. For me and my friends, your DAC is the best game we've ever played and it represents J.R.R.'s Middle Earth very well. I think I speak for all of us when I say please come back and save DAC one more time! You can't put as much time into it as you used to, but without you DAC is dead and we are doomed to play the last quality version of 4.5 for the next few years and watch your Faction overviews for the hundredth time like I did tonight :D

[@whitewolfie105]

That would Indeed be wonderful, but i think it's too much for us to ask of him such a thing, now that his career has taken off and he's married. Also, i think It would be a disservice to all the work Links has already done, we can only hope that DaC will get finished with at least another version, even though we can't know when it'll be Edit: if you check in the DaC discord you'll see that the developers are continuing to post previews and that V5 Is nearing to the release.

[@DarkweaveOmnom]

I'm sure there's a passage in FotR about Frodo throwing stones at birds and squirrels in The Shire and him becoming so accurate that all the creatures for half a mile disappear at the sight of him. I might have some of the details wrong but I always thought that Merry and Pippin's good aim was a nod to that.

[@protozoanpro]

Love and appreciate you Galu, I mourn for the end of these days. I hope you put out the occasional video. Once a year or something!

[@protozoanpro]

Also, for return of the king do you think you can do a live stream potentially so we could ask live questions?! That would be an awesome send off

[@nottheeviltwin2]

@@protozoanpro that would be a rather long stream 😅

[@marantzdantz9685]

Yep, yep, yep! The Land Before Time. Ducky?

[@AnthonyJones-us3bh]

Heiganal. Yup yup yup. Land before time 🙂

[@SheppardOfNumenor]

Had thought to watch the Andui Vale campaign and here you and your wife are giving us great content. 👍

[@Manchevo]

Hey Galu and Jess ! In the next video, can we have a couple of seconds to explain what happened in the north (Rhun, Mirkwood, Esgaroth/Erebor) and how everything ended in each zone ? Because the war didn't happen only on one front (Gondor) but rather 3 if im not mistaken (meaning Mirkwood and Erebor). And from the previous episode, I believe that going from one end to the other in the Shire should take a day, considering that the road from Imladris to Moria took 40? days and the journey itself took months ! Cheers and keep up the good work !

[@Rafflewafflez]

He has a video covering the battles of the third age and it covers what happens in erebor etc.

[@Manchevo]

@@Rafflewafflez Indeed tho I asked because I thought that Jess mind find that interesting, if she hasn't read/watched anything about that ^^

[@ciryatar]

I'd just like to point out for Jess' benefit that the very first tale in the Legendarium, written in 1917, was the Fall of Gondolin, whose central plot element is the elf Meglin's betrayal of the city to Morgoth. Meglin's mother, incidentally, was raped by his father (although that element isn't explicitly spelt out in the earliest version). Darkness is everywhere in Tolkien's writings. The Lord of the Rings is unusually black-and-white (and even it isn't entirely so).

[@Rinnion]

That story also provides one of the few examples of outright death penalty / judicial execution that Jess and Galu have been discussing related to Grima: Ëol being executed on Turgon's order after he does...his thing. IIRC, it's not really presented as an evil action, just a thing that happens. So, whatever reservations Tolkien had about executions in LotR (and he did: cf Gandalf's speech to Frodo about Gollum and why he wasn't killed), they still happen occasionally in his other works

[@johnjanuary7249]

18:43 - The land before time!

[@TheAleatoriorandom]

Very fun! I will look forward to the next video

[@matthewwithum8372]

I didn't say I wanted to live forever, I said I wanted to become a tree....😂😂😂

[@johngallacher7249]

Galu, Good Sir. Will you do a V5 install video as a farewell. I know it was released today and thought it would be fitting to hear you narrate an install one last time.

Nope, sorry.

[@vladimirsimunovic1127]

Wooohoo been waiting for this one 🥳

[@spiscHiPs]

Land Before Time

[@ChismTuggle]

Oh and Jess...The Land Before Time ;)

[@nottheeviltwin2]

Yaaaas 😁

[@themegaspazz2176]

I just watched the two towers and noticed that when they give directions (north south East west) it’s seems wrong, like when treebeard says he’ll take Mary and pippin to the western boarder of fangorn then they can go north from there, that’d leave them on the western base of the misty mountains. That doesn’t make sense. Then when the hunters are chasing the orc pack going west. Legolas says the orcs have turned northeast and going towards Isengard but if they were headed west and turned northeast they wouldn’t be moving towards Isengard anymore. Can someone help me understand???

[@garythesweep]

The yup yup yup , was from the land before time BTW 😆

[@nottheeviltwin2]

I love how many people know this reference from just that line 😁

[@garythesweep]

the human minds strange and wonderful at times lol , i haven't watched that movie since my childhood at least 25+ yrs ago yet it flashed into my mind the moment you asked what is was from lol

[@RemusKingOfRome]

When I die, I want to be buried and tree planted ontop so i can nourish life. Great video.

[@4TheWinQuinn]

Still as a big Tolkien fan it was fun and interesting going through all these questions with you both 👍

[@TETASARAIVACS]

Treebeard is alive since the Years of the Lamps!

[@rossmartin8419]

The yup yup yup is from land before time by the way

[@kimsnightmare]

Another great video, and a sad one to. Just one left damn🥺

[@justinvanheerde4338]

I did not know that the Numenorians built Helms Deep. Thats so interesting!

[@Kalstorm22]

Great video!

[@williamwest831]

Lol . She wants to talk about the consistency of squirrel droppings . Lmao . That’s too cute . Lol 🍻

[@joelincz8314]

Thanks!

[@BernddasBrotB7]

Aule and Yavanna are literally married! XD

[@hunsler1006]

Just another reason they don't like eachother 😂

[@justinvanheerde4338]

The Numenorians built Orthanc aswell no?

[@Huskytabby]

Land Before Time!!!! Gf and I just watched that a couple days ago :)

[@whoisgoobafish9623]

Imagine Gollum and Shelob spooning

[@ChismTuggle]

...Aule and Yavanna were hitched!

[@CompagnoPietro]

Wasn't Aragorn's father killed by an arrow to the eye, and his grandfather bu trolls?

[@JW-jd6sn]

I thought it was an arrow to the knee

[@SheppardOfNumenor]

I’m surprised neither of you went into detail for what Gandalf did in the roots of the mountains. We all likely know of it and it needn’t an explanation still listening to someone say “the nameless things” is creepy for Tolkiens standards. The small amount of descriptive detail aids in that creepy experience Gandalf might have had.

[@definitelynotrupertjr.smithedw]

Hello! I have been a viewer for a while, this isn’t an account I have been watching on. Any plans to play the new Dwarf Fortress on Steam?

[@TETASARAIVACS]

Isn’t Yavanna the wife of Aule??

[@Tar-Elenion]

"Arwen was not an elf, but one of the half-elven who abandoned her elvish rights." Letter 345 "...Luthien is allowed as an absolute exception to divest herself of 'immonality' and become 'mortal'..." Letter 153 "Immortality and Mortality being the special gifts of God to the Eruhini (in whose conception and creation the Valar had no part at all) it must be assumed that no alteration of their fundamental kind could be effected by the Valar even in one case: the cases of Lúthien (and Túor) and the position of their descendants was a direct act of God." op.cit By the judgement of Manwe Dior was mortal: "Now all those who have the blood of mortal Men, in whatever part, great or small, are mortal, unless other doom be granted to them; but in this matter the power of doom is given to me. This is my decree: to Eärendel and to Elwing and to their sons shall be given leave each to choose freely under which kindred they shall be judged." LR, Quenta Silmarillion However he was of threefold race: "Thereafter was Dior Thingol's heir, child of Beren and Luthien, king in the woods, most fair of all the children of the world, for his race was threefold: of the fairest and goodliest of Men, and of the Elves, and of the spirits divine of Valinor; yet it shielded him not from the fate of the oath of the sons of Feanor." SoMe, The Quenta As were those those descended of him: "Elrond Halfelven, who chose, as was granted to him, to be among the Elf-kindred ; but Elros his brother chose to abide with Men. And from these brethren alone the blood of the Firstborn and the seed divine of Valinor have come among Mankind: for they were the sons of Elwing, Dior's daughter, Lúthien's son, child of Thingol and Melian." LR, Quenta Silmarillion "He [Elros] and his brother Elrond were not actually differently endowed, so far as the purely physical potentiality of life was concerned; but since Elros elected to remain among the kindred of Men, he retained the chief human characteristic as compared with the Quendi: the “seeking elsewhither”, as the Eldar called it, the “weariness” or desire to depart from the World. He died, or resigned life, when he was about 500 years old." Lives of the Númenóreans Earendil: "...obtained the grace (from Eru via Manwë) that his children, being half-elven on both sides - descendants of Idril and of Lúthien - should (a) have a choice of which kindred they would belong to, and (b) should in each kind have “a long and fair youth” - sc., should only slowly reach maturity - and that this should extend to the second generation: thus Elrond : Arwen and Elros : Vardamir." NoMe, Ageing of the Elves

[@nottheeviltwin2]

I mean Galu did say this in a nutshell it was more the way in which the switch over happened from immortality to mortality that I was asking about. Thanks for confirmation from the references but Galu was right in that it doesn't explicitly explain how the switch over happens though 👍

[@Tar-Elenion]

@@nottheeviltwin2 It was not an answer to how 'a switch over happened'. I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. If you are referring to an Elf being granted the fate Men, that only happened once, and was a direct act of God (and one Man being granted the fate of Elves, sort of balancing it out).

[@nottheeviltwin2]

@Tar-Elenion Maranwe I don't think there is an answer to my question because Tolkien didn't explain it. I appreciate the in depth info that you've shared though.

[@Tar-Elenion]

@@nottheeviltwin2 If you want to ask your question explicitly (as I am still not quite sure what you mean by 'switch over') I may look into it.

[@nottheeviltwin2]

@Tar-Elenion Maranwe I don't think it can really be answered having discussed it with Galu. But it is: how does the change from immortality to mortality work for Arwen and others in her lineage. By that I mean is it an instant change to being mortal so more susceptible to illness but extended life or is it just that they will eventually die and all elven traits just wear off over time?

[@bradleysmith7170]

Are you guts watching the Extended edition or the theatrical cut of the movies?

[@nottheeviltwin2]

Extended editions

[@delichonnl7744]

Question: Many images picture hobbits with pointed ears. Does Tolkien writes about them that way? I cannot remember. I thought pointed ears were something special of elves and hobbits are not related to elves, aren’t they? Are hobbits related to men? Can men and hobbits have children?

[@Tar-Elenion]

Not in LotR or The Hobbit. In Letter 27 he writes: "I picture a fairly human figure, not a kind of 'fairy' rabbit as some of my British reviewers seem to fancy: fattish in the stomach, shortish in the leg. A round, jovial face; ears only slightly pointed and 'elvish'; hair short and curling (brown)." He is offering a description for illustrators). (Tolkien also does not describe Elves as having pointed ears in the books. There is one note in the Etymologies in HoMe 5 (from the 30's) that says: "*lassē ‘ear’. The Quendian ears were more pointed and leaf-shaped than [?human]." Hostetter and Wynne confirm the reading as 'human' in Vinyar Tengwar.)

[@OKmusic12]

Very good!

[@JW-jd6sn]

Is galu still contemplating yeeting himself off KZbin or has he decided to remain?

[@SpicyTrifongo]

Kind of funny that in Middle Earth the trees came first, but on Earth, our ancestors predate the ancestors of the trees.

[@lcdcstudios]

goodluck and goodbye

[@mellon4251]

Even though Yavanna is fearful of Aule's creation and therefore creates the Ents as a counterpart, Yavanna and Aule are actually loving husband and wife :)

[@ciryatar]

Yeah that was a hilarious mistake. Second-most famous Valar-pairing :D

[@SpicyTrifongo]

"yup, yup, yup" is probably from Krieger in the TV series Archer.

[@hailhydra7959]

Dunlendings did nothing wrong.