LOTR: Fellowship of the Ring - The Missing Information

[@neilrobertson5194]

My thanks to Jessica for squeezing every last drop out of this channel. Even if Galu is dragged kicking & screaming at times 😊

[@randomguyonyoutubewithnovi6738]

I feel like she’s doing it to try and convince him to keep up the KZbin, lol. Hope it works

[@ciryatar]

Sam _does_ resist the ring! When he takes it up he has a vision of becoming an almighty gardener but manages to overcome it.

[@Pentagathusosaurus]

Only because he already is an almighty gardener, the ring has nothing to offer Samwise the Mighty

[@apollomars1678]

@@Pentagathusosaurus ring: i will make you to the mightiest warrior in middle-earth Sam: i rather do it myself *grab pan and extinguises single-handedly a whole fort of orcs in Mordor

[@joelincz8314]

The reason I love Galu's explanations because he doesn't try to come up with some theory why something might have happened but just stays to the facts it happens because Tolkien needed it to happen for the story to progress. Big thanks!

[@MarkGlowInTheDark]

What i also really like is: when he truly doesn't know it he honestly just says it instead of rumbling around it.

[@valentintapata2268]

Well, not always, if you are wery well read on the Tolkien it is not hard to catch some false statements now and then.

[@joelincz8314]

@@valentintapata2268 it is one thing to correct a person politely, it's another thing to attack a person because they had something wrong. I am ok with people getting corrected I am not ok with people saying this is wrong, you know nothing. I find that disrespectful.

[@valentintapata2268]

@@joelincz8314 Am being attacked right now? - sometimes people are just in a bad mood and sometimes there could be just a misunderstanding of eacother. :) And sometimes that is not the case...

[@joelincz8314]

@@valentintapata2268 it's easy to misunderstand I wasn't saying you attack people or my intention to attack you. I even clicked on like when I read your thing I was just trying to add to the conversation and maybe I was wrong :). I think a lot of us or not born with english as our first language.

[@esgardir]

In the book I am fairly sure that Bilbo does return to the lonely mountain after leaving Hobbiton. I will have to re-read this part to confirm but I have a memory of Bilbo telling Frodo about it in Rivendell.

[@martinpakes5436]

You're right: "I got here without much adventure" he (Bilbo talking to Frodo) said. "And after a rest I went on with the Dwarves to Dale. My last journey - I shan't travel again" Many Meetings. Galu does look especially silly when he resolutely asserts something false with an item that would taken twenty seconds to check.

[@esgardir]

@@martinpakes5436 I don't think he looks silly. So far as I know he has never claimed to be a lore expert or Tolkien scholar but just a regular person who knows a lot about the Tolkien universe because he finds enjoyment in it. If he has to check the books for all of Jess' questions it would make for a pretty boring video. You have now pointed out something though that just set off a light bulb in my head. I should have just looked in the book and not left a comment. I was just so excited for a new Galu and Jess video! 🙂

[@tasorodri]

I love how happy Jessica seams while finishing the typical galu farewell hahahaha its a shame that she only became a part of the chanel in its last days, it would have been great to have her more time

[@Paulsinke]

There's this cool moment in the book when Gandalf realizes Frodo and Sam deserted the fellowship, he says something along the lines of "now the greatest danger is behind us," by which I think he meant taking the ring for himself. He would rather keep as much distance between the ring and himself as possible, he's scared of what would happen if he spends too much time with it.

[@mitchhead3099]

Big props to Jessica for pushing Galu to keep going :)

[@moritzhahn785]

Actually, Bilbo does travel to the lonely mountain one last time directly after his 111th birthday before then retiring in rivendell - he says so in Chapter 2 of Book 2.

[@Hunter-tn7og]

Best Estimate I can give from the maps in the books (I used an actual ruler and the legend) is the shire is roughly 100 miles wide from michel delving to the brandywine bridge. Hobbiton is mid-way between the two and frogmorton is midway between hobbiton and the bridge as well, so that should be approx. 50 and 25 miles respectively for those two from the eastern border as well. Edit: For real life reference on the distance in england, it is roughly the same distance as the crow flies from michel delving to the brandywine bridge that it is from downtown Birmingham to the many bridge crossings of the Thames is London e.g. Westminster Bridge.

[@imgoingforawalk1693]

Earendil's choice only extends to his grandchildren, so Elrond and Elros's kids would have the choice, but not after. Regarding the Elf-script on the doors: "They did not, however, appear in the inscriptions on the West Gate of Moria. The Dwarves said that it was in courtesy to the Elves that the Feanorian letters were used on that gate, since it opened into their country and was chiefly used by them. But the East Gates, which perished in the war against the Orks, had opened upon the wide world, and were less friendly. They had borne Runic inscriptions in several tongues: spells of prohibition and exclusion in Khuzdul, and commands that all should depart who had not the leave of the Lord of Moria written in Quenya, Sindarin, the Common Speech, the languages of Rohan and of Dale and Dunland."

[@50ULL355]

I don't think anyone has mentioned this But the force that ambushes isildur was actually sent at the beginning of the war of the ring to hold the crossings of the misty mountains and delay the last alliance. However, being cowardly, in the face of the might and splendor of the last alliance they panicked and fled, staying in the region for the duration of the war. The last alliance did not deal with this force for the sake of time.

[@polytropos1.1]

I don’t think that Eldarion and his sisters had any choice. As far as I understand, in the half-elven line every generation can choose to become mortal - but if any chooses mortality, the fates of their children is sealed. That’s why Elrond’s children can still choose, but Elros’s offspring remains mortal even though they don’t like it further down the line.

[@matwatson7947]

I think it also makes sense because Arwen had become Mortal BY THE TIME Eldarion and co. were conceived. If they had been conceived (but not born) before Arwen married it would be really interesting to debate with Tolkien fans. Side note: Conception before marriage is more for G.R.R.M not Mr. Catholicism himself

[@SNWWRNNG]

The Shire is ~18,000 square miles big - about as large as the English Midlands. Regarding the rescue of Gandalf - Radagast asked Gwaihir to go to Isengard, knowing that Gandalf was there but not knowing Gandalf was captive there. The children of Aragorn and Arwen are mortal and without choice because they received the Gift of Men (to die and to leave the World, instead of being stuck in it until the end) through their parents. The choice of Elwing, Earendil, Elros and Elrond is only extended to Elrond's children because he chose the Elvish fate and married an elf. Men's fate of being free from the Music of the Ainur and leaving the world through death to join Eru (God) is considered the superior fate by faithful Numenoreans and, while they were growing old and weary in a declining world, by the Elves and Valar as well. Men were also promised participation in the Second Music that will create a perfect World after this one ends, while the Elves don't even know if they will exist beyond the end of the World - they have to hope for Eru's mercy. I'd like to believe that the language on the doors is Sindarin written in Tengwar mainly because Celebrimbor and Narvi worked on it together as close friends. A sign of unity between the two peoples, as this would be the door that Elves would enter Khazad-dum from. Love the Tolkien content :) Keep it coming, until the end.

[@LazyMagician]

This was such a treat! I thought "The Missing Info" series on The Rings Of Power were going to be your last uploads for a while!

Yes, as the comments will show, Gwaihir was tasked with bearing messages to Orthanc so it wasn't a complete coincidence. It was however a coincidence that he should return to Orthanc when Gandalf happened to be imprisoned there. Had he been a few days earlier then he would have missed Gandalf. The point being, Gandalf did not send for aid. He got lucky that Gwaihir was returning information after the wizard had been captured.

[@Sean_TH]

Once again thank you so much for making this episode and the next ones Galu and Jess. It's very well edited and explained. Though it saddens me we won't get the same format for the 3 hobbit movies, this is still excellent videos.

[@moritzhahn785]

Size of the Shire: "The Shire measured 40 leagues (193 km, 120 miles) east to west and 50 leagues (241 km, 150 miles) from north to south"

[@marantzdantz9685]

Couple points to correct. Gwaihir finds Gandalf at Orthanc because Radagast sent him there (by Gandalfs request earlier on Radagasts mission to find Gandalf). Next the river rises up @ Elrond's command. Elrond has one of the 3 and it's implied he's using his. This wipes out 4 or 5 Nazgul and Glorfindal and Aragorn arrive behind the others and scare the rest of them in the river (by Glorfindals aura and torches???). Legolas says he is "as old" as several lifetimes of great oaks, take that for whatever it's worth. Good vid.

[@poetnathan26]

I feel like the reason that the witch king of Angmar was able to be destroyed by the female character, whose name I cannot remember is because for thousands of years he has believed that he cannot be killed by any man and he says it to her, ‘ no man can kill me!’ And so when she says “I am no man“ and takes off her helmet, revealing herself as a woman, the witch king realizes in that moment something he has never considered before ever, and that the prophecy isn’t saying that he cannot be killed just that he can’t be killed by a man, so he dies, because he is completely shocked, and believes because of repeating the prophecy in his head over and over and over for thousands of years that he’s been beat because he believes the prophecy so much that it’s like a physical object when it’s revealed to him as being something other than what he has thought it was forever and ever and ever he creates his own demise in the realization that the way he interpreted the prophecy. His entire existence was simply incorrect. He can be killed, just not by a man.

[@matwatson7947]

"If you have a question and it's NOT why didn't the Eagles fly the ring to Mordor" made me laugh. That question has become infamous among Tolkien fans :)

[@Deailon]

I find we know close to nothing about the Nazgul, even their names, very thematic. They craved power and recognition in life, but in death they are slaves, all their great deeds forgotten, all their kingdoms turn to ruin, never to be remembered. I think that was intentional by Tolkien. He fleshed out everything he could but left the Nine in the dark. It seems purposeful and ties well with the deceptive nature of evil.

[@TETASARAIVACS]

Before arriving to Isengard, Gandalf asked Radagast to send messengers to Orthanc, that’s why it was no coincidence that Gwaihir saw Gandalf on the top of the tower: “Send out messages to all the beasts and birds that are your friends. Tell them to bring news of anything that bears on this matter to Saruman and Gandalf. Let messages be sent to Orthanc.” (Gandalf, in The Council of Elrond, book 2, chapter 2)

[@SheppardOfNumenor]

Jessica is quite patient with Galu not understanding the wording and intent behind many of her questions. That snirk when she said about Aragorn “he could have gone a little bit longer that’s nearly halfway” is what we all said at some point.

[@krisbrox]

Ooooh, this is a great continuation of the previous series. The series answering questions about Rings of Power was fantastic, greatly looking forward to watching these as well

[@hueman9330]

Thoroughly enjoying this series! I love the podcast q&a style

[@TheAleatoriorandom]

This was very fun! So glad you two decided to do this!

[@TETASARAIVACS]

Because of intrinsic things having to do with “good and evil”, usually evil characters are potentially more powerful (they tend to push their power to its limits, they don’t hold back)

[@keyboarddancers7751]

Please don't worry about presenting very basic queries. I've been reading Tolkien for well over 30 years and I STILL find it v interesting to cogitate on Arda's minutiae.

[@adolith9015]

Gwaihir was sent by Radagast to Orthanc. His mission was to bring news/intelligence to Orthanc, which led him to discover Gandalf.

[@martinpakes5436]

Gandalf also (in The Hobbit) is mentioned as having cured the (unnamed) Lord of the Eagles of a wound. Some discussion as to whether that is Gwaihir or (one of?) his predecessors.

[@P4GYY]

Good video idea m8, was enjoying these little "missing info" episodes. good job jess ty ty

[@tylinspiglet4676]

On the subject of the creature in the lake... Was Tolkien there making a reference to HP Lovecraft? The creature in the movie looks positively Lovecraftian but off the top of my head I can't remember what's it like in the book. And a name like "The Watcher in the Water" is pure Lovecraft too.

[@Nifter71]

As far as I'm aware, there's no evidence that Tolkien ever read Lovecraft. Tolkien was into Old English sagas and Norse epics. Don't think stuff published in American pulp was in his orbit tbh.

[@Pabst_Comandante_I.]

Gwaihir finding Gandalf on top of Orthanc was not a coincedence. Gandalf met Radagast earlier in the story whilest travelling on the Greenway and told him to send out birds as messengers to Saruman. Gandalf wanted to get news about the whereabouts of the Nazgul.

[@schuylerthackeray5834]

In the Hobbit, the Eagle is happy to repay gandalf for saving him from a hunters arrow. That's how they knew each other

[@gobias_]

You gave an incomplete answer as to where Isildur was going. Yes he was going to Rivendell but it wasn't to get his wife and kids back after the last alliance. It was a year later and he was going to surrender the Ring to Elrond after coming to realise that he was incapable of mastering the Ring. A detail that I missed for 20 years. It's quite tragic that he had the wisdom to realise the Ring shouldn't stay with him but that his attempt to give it to Elrond got him killed.

[@EnygmaRecords]

Gandalf saved Gwaihir from a poisonous arrow, and they were friends ever since.

[@PangoFleischschritt]

Thingol was in Doriath, not in Nargothrond I think.

[@modernenglish9756]

Welcome back. 1) RE Frodo's parents boat incident - Hobbit theory: a) Drogo's weight sunk the boat; b) his mother Primula pushed Drogo in and he pulled her in with him. 2) Bilbo - he DID go to the Lonely Mountain and Dale before returning to settle in Imladris. Balin had already left for Khazad-dum. 3) Saruman - he made his own ring and declared himself 'Saruman of Many Colours'. To which Gandalf replies, 'I liked white better', and added one of Tolkien's greatest declarations against the science of Saruman: 'he that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom.' 4) RE Gwaihir - Following Gandalf's previous instruction to Radagast to 'send out all beasts and birds and tell them to bring news to Orthanc', Gwaihir was in Orthanc to report his findings. 5) Nargothrond - there's a cool ancillary in DaC: cloak_nargothrond. Is that yours Galu? 6) Dwavres & Rings - they came to Imladris NOT for news of Balin, but to warn Bilbo that a messenger of Mordor had come asking about 'hobbits', offering to return 3 of the Dwarven rings in exchange for information. 7) Celebrimbor - didn't build the doors of Moria, which were made by the dwarf Narvi. Celebrimbor merely 'drew these signs'. 8) The Watcher in the Water - wasn't it Maiar, similar to the Balrogs? 9) Legolas - wasn't his mum captured/killed by Gundabad orcs?

[@gameofghost5762]

Greatest films ever made can’t wait to see how you break these down. The hobbit films have got to follow surely!

[@martinpakes5436]

Not sure even Jess can persuade Galu to care enough about the Hobbit films

[@gameofghost5762]

@@martinpakes5436 true but 3 more videos would be lovely

[@martinpakes5436]

@@gameofghost5762 I agree :)

[@doomsdaybooty1072]

After Rings of Power, you watch the Hobbit fims - they're pretty good 👍

[@johanhermodsson]

Redardind elf’s vs the dwarfs so gloin when legolas tells the information about gollum you were not so kind regarding me remembering he’s captivity.

[@circedelune]

The Shire is actually pretty big. Hobbits also live in Bree and the surrounding areas. The Hobbits are not incorruptible, they do have some resistance because they don’t really crave power. The main thing about them is, they have little power of their own. If they did become corrupted, they would be far less dangerous.

[@hunsler1006]

I always assumed the witch kings physical form was destroyed at the Peleanor (similar to what we saw with the river outside Rivendell) but the ring was destroyed before he had time to return to physical form? Hence Eowyn and Merry being the (last) slayers of the witch king

[@jamiehayes7353]

"The Silmarills fell into the hands of Thingol in Nargothrond, and he put them in a crown" REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[@Pinkerton000]

On the subject of Uruk-hai, it is worth noting that the word "Uruk-hai" is just black speech for "orc folk". In this sense, it is not at all surprising that there are uruk-hai in Isengard and Mordor, though it is not adequately explained why the term is sometimes used to distinguish specific varieties of orcs from others.

[@BernddasBrotB7]

Gwaihir also owed Gandalf for saving his life at some point before the Hobbit when he was shot by a Valesman. Assuming the lead Eagle in the Hobbit is Gwaihir, which is probable. As for Aragorn and Arwen's children, the choice was given up to the second generation, so Elrond and Arwen get to choose, but Eldarion doesn't because he's not born from an Elf and a Man, he's born from a Peredhil and a Man (who also has a tiny bit of Elf in him). On the topic of Elves vs Dwarves, the only major bit of that we get in LotR is from Celeborn, who personally survived the whole Thingol incident and ever after was anti-Dwarf to the point of refusing ever to visit Khazad-Dum even when he lived in Hollin. Galadriel outright tells him off for doing it to Gimli because obviously Gimli had nothing to do with it.

[@schuylerthackeray5834]

Radagast sent the eagle to bring word to gandalf, not knowing he was captured (gandalf asked him to send word after the brown wizard delivered his message from the white wizard). It was not coincidence.

[@Paulsinke]

You get the sense that Legolas is on the younger side of elves, he never once mentions Beleriand and kinda implies he's never even seen the sea, maybe he is much older and just doesn't care to mention it but it is frustrating reading the books how little Legolas even says through the whole story

[@Nifter71]

He's a Silvan Elf. After the fall of Beleriand, they chose to stay in Middle Earth because of their love for the trees, although it's suggested that they too are leaving as the years pass. Legolas specifically mentions that his first encounter with the sea awakens the longing within him to sail West, which he eventually does, bringing Gimli with him (as a Dwarf, he gets a special pass, possibly arranged by Galadriel!).

[@thegoodsoldiersvjek2335]

Another great video such a shame you are closing down .

[@thebenevolentsun6575]

I thought the sauron was more powerful because he wasnt limited to a human form. I can't remember where it's said but the istari are essentially nerfed as they have human emotions and their strongest magic cannot be used as it would destroy their form.

[@wezzers84]

I think at times when you mention something happens because Tolkien needed them to happen for the story you are forgetting that Tolkien’s worldview always wants to and assumes that good actions can happen by apparent chance because of divine providence, the way the ring is destroyed in the end of ROTK follows this, in Tolkien’s views the ultimate good is God and he wouldn’t want a hero who did everything perfectly instead he would want God to guide the story to the ultimate good

[@sologmaane]

Eagles are also known for their symbolic value, not just their convenience as plot devices. They are often depicted as guardians, with serpents (wyrms) in their beaks, as a symbol of lights victory over evil. They could also symbolize the ressurection of Christ, considering the moments they appear in the books. Furthermore, they also symbolize the royal virtue of justice and the sins of arrogance, probably because their eyes are set on far away objects (goals), while turning away from the demands of the day.

[@JimRiven]

On the subject of the doors... Even the tomb of Balin i think is not written in Dwarvish, and the fact that it states "here lies Balin... " just goes to show the secrecy of the language as it wasn't even his Dwarven name.

[@bluejohn6890]

In the book bilbo does go to erebor again and Dale

[@vargakovacsistvan]

Wait, so if i understood it well, the Eye of Sauron was just Peter Jackson’s idea? I always thought that i know everything about the Third Age.

[@SpiritofFeanor]

Sauron is in a physcial form inside the tower of Barad Dur using a Palantir, you can see him in his physical form wit the palantir when Aragorn confronts him with the Palantir in Minas Tirith in the Extended Edition of the Return of the King.

[@MarkGlowInTheDark]

@@SpiritofFeanor if this is true i actually didn't knew that. and it has been ages since i last saw the extended edition

[@SpiritofFeanor]

@@MarkGlowInTheDark Yeh, you can see Sauron holding a Palantir inside the Palantir Aragorn is holding. This happens right before Aragorn goes to the black gate and confronts Sauron with the Palantir showing him Anduril.

[@MarkGlowInTheDark]

@@SpiritofFeanor indeed you are right although they show him in his human form holding the palantir, (form film purposes they gave him his last Alliance form which is good although in real life het looks horrendous but for the film its good

[@mikkebullansen7461]

if i recall Radagast sends Gwaihir to save Gandalf

[@Welshhobbits]

Doesn’t Gandalf help Gwahir recover from a wound, maybe a poisoned wound?

[@Bradley_UA]

Wait, doesnt it explain moria elvish inscription on the door? That it was a door for elves to come to moria for trade, so elves would open it by talking in their own language?

[@povilzem]

The eagles are not plot devices, they are the means of divine intervention.

[@TETASARAIVACS]

Frodo’s parents died in a boat accident, yes. Hobbits make jokes about it in the Green Dragon, saying that Drogo was too fat (and some even suggest that Frodo’s mother tried to kill Drogo pushing him off the boat, but then he pulled her with him and both died)

[@blankspace6687]

Saruman being weaker than Sauron can be explained by Saruman having a physical mortal body with all its needs and drawbacks

Saruman and Sauron are the same beings: Maiar. Both can shape-shifting and choose their own bodies.

[@vincentkhatibi1439]

A quick question about sauropod and sauroman serving/learning from Aüle, did they actually know each other in Arda? So when they spoke or communicated trough the Palantir, was it more like "hello sauron, long time no see"?

[@martinpakes5436]

Legolas does mention in The Two Towers that he has seen 500 years (talking about the origin of Rohan), so that is a canon minimum.

[@MarkGlowInTheDark]

In the book or en the film?

[@martinpakes5436]

@@MarkGlowInTheDark book

[@LeftJoystick]

And there was much rejoicing (yayyy)

[@Kalstorm22]

Great video!

[@bluejohn6890]

Gandalf helped gwahir with a sickness

[@gullyknully]

In the hobbit cartoon movie, The eagle lord says Gandalf helped him after he was shot down by a hunter or something.. was that just something they made up then? ^^

[@RemusKingOfRome]

Question - Why did stupid Aragon leave the hobbits to be attacked on top of the watch tower ... because Frodo must die / go to the west ? and why didn't they defend the tower on the narrow path, armed with fire.. instead of doing nothing on the top ? poor tactics.

[@DrKaill]

What examples of rangers still exist beside Aragorn and are there more from a similar bloodline?

[@Nifter71]

We really don't know. Only Halbarad (who dies at the Pelennor) is mentioned iirc. We do hear that Elrond's two sons also travel with the Rangers.

[@martyrobbins5241]

When you talked about the Silmarils and Dwarf-Elf conflict, you say the Elven King had the Dwarves craft his crown as they were the best smiths. Why then, I would like to ask, did Sauron/Annatar get the elves to craft his rings, not the Dwarves?

[@Rafflewafflez]

Hi Galu, do you think adding glorfindel, imrahil and bombadil would have improved the films?

[@martinpakes5436]

He's clearly indicating he is at least reconciled to the majority of the adaptation changes.

[@Rafflewafflez]

@@martinpakes5436 thanks but I was looking for Galu’s opinion but the mouth of Galu has spoken I guess

[@ChismTuggle]

Gandalf pulled an arrow out of Gwahir's wing...C'mon dude lol

I dont care anymore. I just don't care. It was a bit of fun but as usual the fans emerge from all over to lovingly tell me to stop making videos.

[@ChismTuggle]

@ nah you should care! We're watching because we enjoy it. But, as you know...we Tolkien fans love our accuracies, which you are generally honed to. Try not to take KZbin comments personally. Most are made in jest and would not be taken seriously if said between friends in-person around a table of cards ;)

@Chism Tuggle Well I don't anymore. Hence why these are the last videos on the channel. I am off.

[@ChismTuggle]

@ I shall miss seeing your videos! You're one of the few LOTR channels I am actually subscribed to! Take care and God bless in all future endeavors!

Forgive me. I have rather overreacted to your comment. Lashing out at you for something wholly unrelated. I am sorry, it is inexcusable. Thank you for the kind words. Best wishes to you as well sir.

[@RemusKingOfRome]

Goblins are more deformed Orcs, thus they stay in the darkness while Orcs are better for travel on the surface ?

[@vincentkhatibi1439]

Also, does it make sense that the Witch-King dies because he for once is afraid?

[@JimRiven]

Eldarion was half elven but I think it states he ruled for 100 or 200 years... 100 most likely which suggests that he chose to be of men, not sure about his siblings.

[@JimRiven]

100.. until the year 220.. And was spoken about for a bit.

[@rjd8856]

Hi half orc and lovely elf :)

[@iogd2692]

Why didnt sauron go north and search for some drakes/dragons (if they were any) | When Sauron was revealed as returned why didn't the elves all join together to show him the back door? | Why do the eagles suck and didnt take the ring to mt doom lol

[@anthonykeane4984]

Thanks for doing this

[@circedelune]

The prophecy was not that the Witch King could not be killed by a man, but that he would not be. After Merry stabbed him with that blade literally anyone could have killed him.

[@circedelune]

There is a lot more that you are wrong about. I’m not trying to be picky, but you should really do more research before you make a video such as this.

This video is for fun off the top of my head. It is not intended to be a lecture on Tolkien's topics. I have countless deeply researched videos on the channel. This is just for fun. Chill out.

[@PlayinOcean]

Just watched the two towers, so already a question for the next video: why did Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas abandon their pursuit of Peppin and Merry after encountering Gandalf the white? Gandalf didn't tell them that the hobbits were alright, and they are very surprised by that when they do find out in Isengard. So weird to see them just casually changing their plans and going to Edoras.

[@sonnydwyer7]

Hey, I presume Gandalf told them he'd met them, and sent them with Treebeard 🤗

[@MarkGlowInTheDark]

@@sonnydwyer7 if i remember it correctly Sonny hes answer is correct. Gandalf knows about the whereabouts of Merry and Pippin and trusts Treebeard

[@martinpakes5436]

And in the book chapter "The White Rider" there are a couple of pages where The Three Hunters and Gandalf discuss Merry and Pippin being safe enough with the Ents while they head off to deal with Rohan at Edoras.

[@cass7448]

Two points: 1. He DOES say that Merry and Pippin are safe. "Merry and Pippin are quite safe. In fact they are far safer than you are about to be!" 2. He also tells them that Merry and Pippin are serving a purpose by being in Fangorn. "The falling of small stones that starts an avalanche". In any case, they all trust Gandalf implicitly. If Gandalf tells them they don't need to keep chasing the hobbits and instead need to be doing something else, they'll all take his word for it.

[@StevenFluharty]

What are you drinking?

Vimto.

[@vladimirsimunovic1127]

First the like then the watch ☺️

[@CALLE92JOHANSSON]

Channel farewell? No I don't! :(

[@rjd8856]

😂

[@rjd8856]

First?!!

[@kmook76]

Sauron is most powerful Maiar because he learns from Morgoth, it's kinda like the dark side, easier quicker, more seductive and destructive. Perhaps Morgoth poured a little bit of his power into Sauron as well once he knew he would be defeated, look at the Balrogs etc.

[@ivanzemun8850]

Bro divide and conquer mod wait for you ;)

I haven't been a part of DaC for over 1.5 years.

[@ivanzemun8850]

@ i know but i just hope meyby you will play again i watch your every video last 2-3 years..