EYES WIDE SHUT - Redux Review

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Күн бұрын

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@jimbojiveable
@jimbojiveable 11 ай бұрын
this movie sticks with you for a while, like a stain you can't quite wash away. the visuals, the soundtrack, the emotions and thoughts that it evokes. it's not easily forgotten, if you truly watch it. it imprints itself on your soul, like any great piece of art that speaks to you. this film is deep. in fact i think there is more below the surface than what is presented to us in this film and that's why most people don't like it or get it. most people don't want to think or feel (esp if the emotions are uncomfortable) they don't want subtlety or ambiguity, they want in your face, instant gratification, entertainment. i think it's a true sign that society has collapsed when the only art it produces is shallow and pointless. we're not quite there yet but seem to be headed in that direction. and not all art, but i think the movie industry at least in this country is a prime example. great review btw
@baraka99
@baraka99 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion I believe this is Stanley's Masterpiece. I have seen this movie over 4 times and I always see and am aware of new elements/symbols/interpretations.
@elbowjuice2627
@elbowjuice2627 Жыл бұрын
I watched it once and thought it was his most interesting work by far, out of an already amazing filmography.
@dennistennis2225
@dennistennis2225 Жыл бұрын
Over 4 times? Like 5?
@damoncurrie7103
@damoncurrie7103 Жыл бұрын
Yeah couple years ago when I was depressed I watched it nine times in a row. I am I kind of crazy to believe in some of the conspiracy theories did mr. Kubrick really get killed?
@elbowjuice2627
@elbowjuice2627 Жыл бұрын
@@damoncurrie7103 i dont know about that, but at least ur skeptical. Some ppl online outright believe he was killed.
@CorbCorbin
@CorbCorbin Жыл бұрын
@@damoncurrie7103 Sometimes a party of people in masks, having a bacchanalian orgy, is just a invitation only party, of people having a cape and masquerade, bacchanalian orgy. 🤣
@GuamoKun
@GuamoKun Жыл бұрын
This movie is the “most real” out of all Kubrick’s movies I think. He considered it “his greatest contribution” to cinema and I kinda agree because yeah we can wax philosophical about movies like 2001 and A Clockwork Orange but like you said it says so much about “the human experience”. Just the shot of Tom Cruise’s face as Nicole Kidman has her monologue is some of the most intense movie making I’ve ever seen
@EtherealMaryJane
@EtherealMaryJane Жыл бұрын
Eyes Wide Shut is a movie that requires Many viewings to grasp it. Every time I watch it I see it differently.
@theowlman7091
@theowlman7091 Жыл бұрын
I think when doing this movie Kubrick was drinking alot of Alcohol 🍷. Even at his worst, he's still a great director and the movie was decent but I think he wanted to expose more on secret societies. I don't think the producer or studio allowed him to interpret the movie the way he wanted. The editing of the movie is what made it confusing.
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver Жыл бұрын
@@theowlman7091 "I don't think the producer or studio allowed him to interpret the movie the way he wanted" Kubrick was an independent filmmaker.
@markandremy
@markandremy Жыл бұрын
I'm so happy you came back to this film. This has been one of my personal all time faves since watching it in the theaters! It always made me sad that people didn't like it...but as you said, this film, like any good dream, needs to be reviewed at different points in one's life. It's both simple AND complex, the mirroring of sex purchased by rich and 'poor' alike...Glad you gave it a more fair shake this time around!
@terencereyes696
@terencereyes696 Жыл бұрын
Hi there, you took a risk here that other youtube reviewers wouldn't do, which is to sort of question yourself or critique a critique that you made, and you brought down your pride for that and that's commendable. Honestly you still made some very great points from your initial review, I would say this is just an extension of that. Great video, always watching out for your next ones 👏🏽
@jamespotter3660
@jamespotter3660 Жыл бұрын
It is a masterpiece. It's purposely lacking eroticism. It's about infidelity, it's about the impracticality of love, the unobtainable nature of love, we want ownership of another person, but free will is there to screw it up. It's about other things as well. I'm a big Kubrick fan - I believe most, if not all, his films are near perfect - yes, even the earlier ones. As a swansong, this film was the perfect pay off. I was always bemused by how almost universally the film was panned. I saw it when it first came out, I loved it. As I grow older, the films grows with me and my interpretation of it shifts - that is the genius of Kubrick - watch his films at 16 or 66 and you get something different from them.
@seanadamson280
@seanadamson280 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant James 🙏
@BackDoorFlush
@BackDoorFlush Жыл бұрын
Im so happy that you've done a second review. It was lingering in my mind how you spoke about the movie, it felt weird. Now it's lifted off my shoulders, like a cloud popping :)
@clumsydad7158
@clumsydad7158 Жыл бұрын
eyes wide shut is very solid and getting better with age ... when seen in the arc of his oeuvre and themes, makes a lot of sense.
@ichidome
@ichidome Жыл бұрын
i love how-mid all the rabbit holes at every turn in this film (ahem, Alice)-Kubrick also takes great care in dialoguing with his cinematic heroes, most notably Max Ophuls. of course, that’s a whole set of rabbit holes in itself too! for example, Ophuls also adapted Schnitzler before Kubrick, and the literary undercurrent that runs through all Kubrick’s work is always worth mining for… Gold
@thoso1973
@thoso1973 Жыл бұрын
I'm on the 'Masterpiece wagon' since I first saw it in 1999. Some people and reviewers back then expected a sex-thriller in the style of Basic Instinct. It's nothing like that; it's a study of humanity, like every film Kubrick made. Confidence, desire, relationship, marriage. Before I saw it, I used to believe that only two people truly knows what's going on in any relationship or marriage. After EWS I realized that those two people likely have their own individual secrets and desires that their partner knows nothing about.
@deckofcards87
@deckofcards87 6 ай бұрын
It's a really, really good film. I've read the book by Arthur Schnitzler which Eyes Wide Shut is based on. It's never actually implied that jealousy is purely what drives the husband to try and cheat, but that this "event", his wife's confession of longing, has appeared and disrupted his seemingly stable and "happy" life. This guy is straight laced to the T., runs his own medical practice, has a beautiful wife and daughter, up-market city apartment, wealthy circle of friends, etc, etc. He's a living candidate for sleepwalking through life, a naive illusion of stability, hence the title, Eyes Wide Shut. Kubrick does something crafty here; by cutting to the black and white images of Kidman rolling around in bed with the Naval officer he misleads the audience into thinking that the sexual act, or fantasy of the sexual act, is primarily what's bothering Bill Harford. It's more nuanced than that. In his prologue to Schnitzler's book, the film's screenwriter Frederic Raphael asserts that the "confession" scene in the bedroom is meant to symbolize a therapy session. The wife is like the blubbering patient and the husband the quiet, attentive listener. Only it's turned on it's head. Instead of coming to a breakthrough, her confession instead creates a trauma in the husband's mind. In this instance the therapist is the one who goes a little mad. And before he can heal the mental wound by talking about it with her; the opportunity is interrupted by the maid (in the film by a phone call) ushering the husband to the house of his patient. Henceforth he gets got caught in a kind of loop, where unconsciously, and uncannily; he repeatedly has near-sexual encounters which mirror his wife's fantasy of "the missed opportunity." Apparently this is a very real phenomena that was explored by Sigmund Frued and the French psychoanalyst Jacques Lacan would later coin 'Repition Compulsion.' And "that which is forgotten tends to be repeated, unconsciously" according to Frued. Equating the couple's dreams and fantasies with waking life as equally important is also typical Freud. Then there's the themes of death and sex which are continually being contrasted with each other throughout the story. Each one is worth of it's own essay. It's all very fascinating, but, to it's own detriment, this film isn't at all accessible to those not familiar with or interested in Psychology, early 20th century psychoanalytical archetypes. Kubrick obviously knew this, so casted Hollywood's sexiest couple and jazzes up the film's promotional material probably in the hopes that it would make the film more approachable for mainstream audiences, especially American audiences. All this stuff happens to be an area I'm interested with so I enjoy the insights into jealousy, dreams, paranoia and 'The Uncanny.' I read that Kubrick discovered Schniztler's books and stage plays in the 60s. He considered his work and to be "genuinely psychologically brilliant." In a letter that Freud personally dedicated to Schnitzler in the 1910s, he wrote: “I have gained the impression that you have learnt through intuition - though actually as a result of sensitive introspection - everything that I have had to unearth by laborious work on other persons (patients)" I have to say, one wonders what they were putting into the water in Vienna a century or so ago to produce those authors with such a capacity to enter into the human soul, and then render it into art like that. Stefan Zweig was another impressive writer from Vienna whom I discovered through Kubrick; in the late 50s Kubrick and Harris made various attempts to adapt Zweig's 'The Burning Secret' to no avail.
@domwalker6526
@domwalker6526 Жыл бұрын
I watched your original review the other day and I was like man she ripped this apart. I'm glad you did this re review because I think this sounds a lot more like one of your well balanced reviews. This is a great film
@makethebestofwhatsaround3113
@makethebestofwhatsaround3113 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for revisiting Eyes Wide Shut. This past December, I watched this at the Music Box Theatre in Chicago as part of their twisted/alternate Christmas series. The film received a standing ovation.
@heartlights
@heartlights Жыл бұрын
Good point about comparing/contrasting Lolita and EWS. Crazy to think those two movies, each reflecting a vastly different time period, came from the same person.
@waynefung9901
@waynefung9901 Жыл бұрын
You're the only reviewer I know who gave opposite opinions about a movie but said insightful things about it in both.
@mordantfilms
@mordantfilms Жыл бұрын
As a Kubrick fanatic, I couldn't wait for Eyes Wide Shut to hit theaters. My first theatrical Kubrick experience was in '87 when Full Metal Jacket was released. So, when Eyes came out so much exitement had been built up, that when I finally saw it, my initial reaction was, "That's it?" It felt like it was an hour long and I kept thinking there was going to be a huge scene at the end. Well, after I got some distance from it, I watched it with fresh eyes and it slowly unfolded its secrets, and yes, I was able to realize what the huge scene really was. I ended up loving the ending, even if it initially felt like a fairly shallow epilogue tacked onto the end.
@aliensoup2420
@aliensoup2420 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I became a Kubrick fan at age 11 in 1969 when I saw 2001, and eventually went to film school. Upon "The Shining", I became increasingly disappointed with each successive release of his latest films, and EWS topped it off. It really seemed like a let down the first time I saw it. After rewatching it on DVD I realized there was much more to it than I could absorb on the first viewing. After a couple more views I have developed a much greater appreciation for it. Because it deals with very common human issues, I find it to be his most relatable movie, and thus am more able to appreciate it. It requires honesty from the viewer, not simply attention. One cannot judge it without judging oneself first.
@johnbobjoe8322
@johnbobjoe8322 Жыл бұрын
Eyes Wide Shut is an extraordinary film. 2001 and Barry Lyndon are Kubrick’s masterpieces, but Eyes Wide Shut gets pretty close to that level. It’s an easy top 4 Kubrick for me.
@someone7068
@someone7068 Жыл бұрын
I've seen all 13 and this is bar none my favorite from him,I think while not his most important I've always found it to be his most interesting subject matter along with great use of cosmic horror and beautiful cinematography and chilling music,the orgy while the peak I still think the build up and amount of mystery to it is genuinely immersive,I'd say the only flaw with it for me is the ballroom where bills bud trys to tell him too much unnecessary in exposition,but the ending is pretty chilling to make up for it with the implication of the daughter,I think the main morale or theme is the idea of how sexual desire is how we make a lot of our decisions and rarely through a more objective viewpoint,it may be a shallow take but the aesthetic was always a draw for me
@dirtydinner6463
@dirtydinner6463 Жыл бұрын
I’d argue this is his most important especially after ritualistic pedophilia among the elite has been 100% confirmed by Epstein’s case. This movie was most definitely a warning about very real sex cults that operate in our society and it makes watching this film so chilling.
@yourwitsaboutyou
@yourwitsaboutyou Жыл бұрын
I watch this movie every Christmas. The first time I watched it was around Oct/Nov during freshman year at college and I fell asleep the first few times. Then I watched it -- and was hooked. It's awesome to watch in a hazy state. I love how you say -- you notice different things every time you watch it. It's so true. This year I was focused so much on the aspect ratio. One version of the DVD I have it's the full frame aspect ratio. I'm always puzzled by the set manipulation too. We see the same exterior set, but mixed around to make different street facades. I try to focus in on this when I watch the film now, but I can't wrap my head around it. I love this movie so much. Thanks for another stellar review.
@glyndwr15
@glyndwr15 Жыл бұрын
A lot of Kubrick's movies are like this. A lot of critics dismissed The Shining and this film as well. Woody Allen said that he dismissed Space Odyssey the first time he saw it.
@jvondd
@jvondd 21 күн бұрын
As a married person with children, this movie hits way differently now than it did when I saw it as a teenager.
@nationalcoasternews5798
@nationalcoasternews5798 Жыл бұрын
Well this was a pleasant surprise, glad you reevaluated this. I definitely think it's one of Kubrick's most interesting and according to his family it was his favorite of his films. It almost has a bit of a Lynchian feel to me
@cannibalholocaust3015
@cannibalholocaust3015 Жыл бұрын
What’s the evidence for his claim it was his favourite? Interesting aside when James Cameron went to Kubricks house, he thought they’d be discussing Stanley’s work instead Kubrick wanted to know how various elements of True Lies was accomplished. He thought it was Cameron’s best film.
@nationalcoasternews5798
@nationalcoasternews5798 Жыл бұрын
@@cannibalholocaust3015 His daughter Katharina has stated it many times, including in some reddit AMAs. She also says it at the end of this video here kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4fGhZxrmZeCfrs I'm pretty sure his assistant Jan Harlan also says it at the end of that video. I've also heard his wife Christiane say it but I can't remember at the moment where I heard it.
@nationalcoasternews5798
@nationalcoasternews5798 Жыл бұрын
Also for what it's worth his wife and daughter have both refuted that the version released was butchered, and have said it was Stanley's final cut
@arctos49
@arctos49 Жыл бұрын
I read that Kubrick thought that it was his finest film. I also like the fact that Barry Lyndon has also been the object of increased appreciation over the years. I really loved it and was impressed by many aspects of the film and not just the remarkable photography.
@DarkBlood666
@DarkBlood666 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why I wasn't subscribed, i used to watch your reviews a few years ago. It recently popped up on my feed, and im happy and subbed now. Your reviews have always been to the point, no flashy distractions and editing like other reviewers. I prefer your style. Keep up the good work.
@robertmarginean164
@robertmarginean164 Жыл бұрын
With the popularity of the Mission Impossible films and Top Gun Maverick it's easy to forget what an acclaimed dramatic actor Tom Cruise is, especially from thr late 80s all the way through the 90s he worked with a lot of fantastic directors
@ErikFlores-f8q
@ErikFlores-f8q 5 ай бұрын
Agreed. Love all his films.
@realDialFforFilm
@realDialFforFilm Жыл бұрын
Nice re-evaluation, Maggie. This review is a fine example of how a review is never the final word but rather the beginning of a longer conversation. As for the film, I haven't seen it in years, but I liked it a lot. I don't consider it in the top echelon of Kubrick's filmography, but it's still pretty good, from what I remember.
@jbliv831
@jbliv831 Жыл бұрын
You have to know Kubrick was married for close to 40 years in England missing New York. This is is very personal for his last film. You have to experience love and life before you can appreciate it
@frimports
@frimports Жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion his best film was Barry Lyndon. Eyes Wide Shut, Kubrick’s most meta film. I enjoy your perspective here I see at least 4 themes running through it. Love & commitment, Good and Evil, Friendship and Enemies, Deception and Temptation. I think if Kubrick had lived a bit longer there wold have been some changes to the Final Cut, alas we’ll never know. I think the sexless vibe of the erotic scenes is intentional. Showing how when we are drawn by our imagination and desire how the reality never quite lives up to our fantasy. I think theres a secret narrative as well I won’t post it here. Kubrick’s a master architect and his films have hidden rooms.
@deadstellarengine
@deadstellarengine Жыл бұрын
I wrestle with this movie. I was a film student and loved Kubrick so my intent is not to disparage him but I think he is the most obvious example "the halo effect"., yes he was a genius filmmaker but let's not forget he was a still photographer at first and a lot of people argue he "continued to be" with his endless take's and wide angle natural light style. People play a game of "where waldo" with is film's like he was planting clues, but who know's if that was his intent at all, I think he spent a tremendous amount of effort on creating an "environment" a real place. (like Ridley Scott did with ALIEN, creating a real spaceship for the camera operator to "find shots in". Going with the still photography idea....I think of his film's like paintings and people read into them creating more than 80% of the implied "content" At first I thought Eye's Wide Shut was about a man not able to buy his way to the truth even though having a tremendous amount of resources., nope. Then I thought it was about "going too far", nope. I think Kubrick was a genius but I also think a lot of people talk about Kubrick and if a genius makes something , it MUST be good, or there MUST be hidden messages. But if Eye Wide Shut was made by James Cameron , would we still be spotting hidden illuminati symbolism and so on?. I still don't know.
@TheMooCowReturns
@TheMooCowReturns Жыл бұрын
I love Kubrick, he has always been my favorite director, and this was a film that initially underwhelmed me upon first viewing, but has grown in stature each time I see it again. I still would not put it up at the top of the list along with the Shining or 2001, but it is still a very good, very complex, fairly psychologically disturbing film that needs mooltipule views before even a seasoned Kubrick fan can truly appreciate, IMO... :=8)
@TheOverlordOfProcrastination
@TheOverlordOfProcrastination Жыл бұрын
I have friends who hate this movie, but I’ve always loved it. Then again I love all Kubrick’s films.
@raducujohnson
@raducujohnson Жыл бұрын
Damn, where am I gonna find a woman who is fascinated with "eyes wide shut" ? Life is so unfair, so many people to know and yet so little time. I am absolutely obsessed with that movie plus The Shining and Matrix, to a certain extent even 2011's Melancholia. I was a little child living in a communist country with very few entertainment options and little knowledge about the world. My father worked for the airline company and had the chance to visit the US and brought back "The Shining", I was absolutelly hooked ever since every time I visit that movie new things come to light. In my personal review of "eyes wide shurt" I would say the movie exposes the human condition and life;s lack of meaning. A christian might regard the movie as satanic. But despite the sex scenes"eyes wide Shut" has little to do with sex, or rather just a small part of it is about sensuality in that sense.
@julioalbertomorales
@julioalbertomorales 8 ай бұрын
EWS is my favorite Christmas move. For context, Die Hard is second. I watch it at minimum once every December. I think it's brilliant and for sure it's my favorite Kubrick film. My only criticism -- and believe me I'm trying to get over it -- is the way Bill and Alice repeat what the person said right before. I've read ideas it adds to the dream state the characters are in, if that's the case. I want to believe that, or anything, so it stops bugging me. I bring this up only so I have something to contribute to these comments, otherwise I'd just be saying I love it! 😁
@jbliv831
@jbliv831 Жыл бұрын
Kubrick's movies are ALL important.
@alberturania5711
@alberturania5711 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t care for it as much until I saw his wife’s interview of it and how her discussion about it with him went. It’s meant to explore the knowledge Women have that men don’t have, watching it in that light is opens it up a lot.
@izzyk1998
@izzyk1998 Жыл бұрын
So cool to hear how much your opinion of this film has changed over the years, I'm sure a lot of people can relate to that. I've recently posted a Stanley Kubrick series so I'm fascinated to see what other people think about this crazy film haha! The initial watch is DEFINITELY easy to go over someone's head. As much as I loved the film I can completely see how simple this film can seem on the surface, especially given all its hype. Loved how you talked about the different themes of the film, like you said the theme of general mistrust is a great way to categorise it. Really thought-through and interesting video you've put together here, was an insightful watch ☺
@yashnigam6
@yashnigam6 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think people give Tom Cruise enough credit not just for this movie, but all the movies he chose in the late-90s/early 2000s. He knew what his brand was as a movie star (the cocky guy) and leant that persona to movies like Eyes Wide Shut and Magnolia. Compare that to a guy like Will Smith who didn’t want to do Django Unchained because he wasn’t enough of a hero, or was weirded out by the gay stuff in Six Degrees. Compare Cruises career to Smiths now and it shows the importance of taking risks.
@ejromm
@ejromm Жыл бұрын
Saw this on Christmas at the Metrograph in Chinatown. Everyone was dying of laughter every time Tom Cruise opened his mouth. It was fun. Also, on the topic of mirroring. After the orgy, Tom revisits every place he went before, in reverse order, until he ends back up at Sydney Pollack's house.
@stevebob240
@stevebob240 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your updated perspective. It's one that's changed with time for me too, I think it's genius.
@jonathannoble9465
@jonathannoble9465 Жыл бұрын
I’ve wanted you to change your tune about this film. So this is so satisfying
@bradforddillman7671
@bradforddillman7671 Жыл бұрын
Masterpiece. Been one of my favorite Kubrick’s since I saw it in the theater. Easily my favorite Cruise movie.
@thelevelbeyondhuman
@thelevelbeyondhuman 2 ай бұрын
Oh yeah this is a muuuch better review than the first one. I like your decision to keep both up, to show how your perspective evolved over time as you watched it more
@jevinday
@jevinday Жыл бұрын
I'm the mid 2000s my dad went through a midlife/existential crisis and started watching all kinds of artsy films. one time I went downstairs and he was watching eyes wide shut. I was probably 14. It was the first erotic drama I'd ever watched. It isn't his masterpiece but it's a pretty solid film IMO.
@sj6049
@sj6049 11 ай бұрын
Kubrick Top 3: Eyes Wide Shut, Barry Lyndon, 2001. Incredible work.
@jeff8835
@jeff8835 Жыл бұрын
You have an amazing gift of analysis and appreciation for the depths of film. Thank you
@Theomite
@Theomite Жыл бұрын
I saw this in theaters and was just obsessed with the sheer imagery of the film. Hard to believe given how much galactic talent there was in theaters that year, but today it's a sledgehammer of craftsmanship compared to what's out and about. I didn't think about the subtext until later. Alex Cox referred to this as a "rake's progress" story so I think of the story as a man's descent into the depravity of others once he realizes that he his wife has more than what he saw before. But being naive and new to it, he bungles his way through and it almost gets him killed and he learns the danger of exploring those undercurrents that the people around him have just given in to. So it's hard for me to analyze the subtext of the film that everybody else seems to say because it feels too Easter Egg-y for me and I think Kubrick would find that cheap and insincere. I agree with what Jack Nicholson said about Kubrick's films: "they are completely conscious" so for me, reading things on the subconscious level is far too much like navel-gazing instead of seeing what's been presented honestly but perhaps subtly.
@petergriffin355
@petergriffin355 Жыл бұрын
Stoked to see this review, because I need to revisit the film. I actually loved it on the first watch, but there’s nothing like rewatching a Kubrick film!
@waynechapman9823
@waynechapman9823 10 ай бұрын
There’s a film by Stuart Gordon called “Edmond” that reminds me of “Eyes Wide Shut” in that it chronicles a repressed man’s journey in the city that leads him to unexpected places. Worth a look.
@austiin8981
@austiin8981 11 ай бұрын
Nicole Kidman's character is already in the cult that's why there's so much tension.
@dvdly
@dvdly Жыл бұрын
I find both of your reviews to be perfectly valid as analyses of how you received the film at the respective times. There is definitely an intended dreamlike visual interpretation of ideas informed by the source material that translates into the positive qualities you speak of here. In spite of all that, I still cannot get past something I'll sum up in one word: Hokey.
@paulm749
@paulm749 Жыл бұрын
While Kubrick was an amazingly gifted film-maker, I also get the sense that, like many artists, he was not the deep thinker that people want to make him out to be.
@Daneiladams555
@Daneiladams555 Жыл бұрын
That movie has a vibe It gets under your skin Love that movie
@mmpetrovich
@mmpetrovich Жыл бұрын
I saw an early print of the film which had some sound and editing issues as well as shots where you could see reflections of the crew (bathroom scene at the party). These issues were shocking to me as I was aware of Kubrick's famous attention to detail especially for screenings of his work. As Kubrick had just died, it felt like the studio had forsaken his memory by allowing a flawed print out into the wild. This colored my original perception of the film and it took me a long time to warm up to it.
@toyajackson556
@toyajackson556 3 ай бұрын
I hated it the 1st time I saw it, and the scene where they smoked weed Nicole's acting was horrible, but as an adult & watching for the subtext it was much more interesting. Particularly if you are familiar with MK ultra processes, plus Nicole's real background as a child in Australia it becomes much deaper.
@tylerscott2116
@tylerscott2116 Күн бұрын
I think the more Kubrick matures, the more movies he is putting in 1 movie. It seems colder and empty on the surface, but that's because hes leaving room for these other layers of subliminal and symbolic storytelling. It's nice to have story told so interactively with little exposition.
@GlynDwr-d4h
@GlynDwr-d4h 10 ай бұрын
To interpret the movie in broad strokes, I think it's about how sexuality is a feature of public life that everybody participates in, but it's hidden. The "dream" in "Dream Story" refers to this, but it's unclear if the dream is the hidden and sexual dimension of our society or if it's the publicly visible life we lead outside of the bedroom. This is why the opening party scene can be contrasted with the orgy scene. The latter is simply the same scene except sexuality is made explicit whereas it was implicit or hidden in the party scene. The orgy scene reveals what is going on under the surface in the party scene. It is unseen because it is disguised, which also speaks to the significance of the literal masks they they wear. The question is which is the real us and which is the disguised or masked version of ourselves. There's a little known detail at the end which I think speaks to this. In the final scene, you see a prominently featured board game in the toy store called "Magic Circle." So far as I can tell, there was no real board game with that name, but the term "magic circle" refers to Johan Huizinga's theory of games or play. Inside a game, according to Huizinga, we create an alternate social reality, or what Huizinga's students call the "magic circle," that is limited and conditioned by the game's rules and objectives, a reality that exists only inside the circle, but once the game is finished, we're returned to the rules and objectives of reality (sort of like waking from a dream), and this analysis tempts us to ask how "real" the non-game reality is, or if it isn't just another game that we confused with reality. What we take to be social norms, institutions, legal systems, and all the other features of actually existing social and political reality, of course, are to some degree socially constructed, invented just like the rules which determine our relationship to one another in any game inside a magic circle, so somebody can argue that they are games themselves, or just another "magic circle." You can argue that monogamous marriage, like seduction, is such a magic circle, a game. At any rate, I didn't care for this movie when it was first released, but having seen it countless times by now and interpreted it backward and forward, I'd easily put it in my top 3 Kubrick films and somewhere in my top 10 films of that decade.
@Daneiladams555
@Daneiladams555 Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite film by Kubrick
@Longleke.
@Longleke. Жыл бұрын
IMO it's a film that I'm always hesitant to speak too strongly on, whether in the positive or negative, simply because Kubrick hadn't finished the post-production by the time he died. He's infamous for taking YEARS on post-production, and his final vision could have been edited into something much different than what we eventually received. We'll never know for sure.
@jordanhouze1609
@jordanhouze1609 Жыл бұрын
first time commenter but I’ve seen a lot of your reviews over the years gotta say you make some very beautiful analogies about film
@ricolowry
@ricolowry Жыл бұрын
For me the evidence that the film is a dream is through the newspaper article about the dead hooker -- freeze frame it and you'll discover duplicate paragraphs and broken sentences, something Kubrick would never have done by accident -- he shows the article twice in the film.
@AarmOZ84
@AarmOZ84 4 ай бұрын
You forgot a very important element in the film: sex is an exchange in power just as different classes are an exchange in power. In the scenes where Tom Cruise is in the cab, at the costume shop, or at the prostitute's apartment the film is shot using a hand held 8mm camera that is grainy and jittery. In the scenes at Tom Cruise's apartment, medical office, or in stores it is shot in a more stationary 35mm camera. At places like the party at the beginning of the movie or the sex orgy at the climax of the movie it is shot in 70mm film. In 8mm film, Tom Cruise is in power and in charge over the people he interacts with. In 35mm film there is a power exchange where he is equals to everyone he interacts with. In 70mm film, he is both subordinate and out of place with people he interacts with. All three film types, the sexual exchanges are different. In 8mm film Tom Cruise is in control and people want to engage in sex with him. In 35mm film there is conflict and compromise between Tom Cruise and his wife. In 70mm film there is only sexual fantasy that is never obtainable. I love how Stanley Kubrick uses this simple camera trick to change the dynamics of power throughout the whole film.
@Elelyoneleven
@Elelyoneleven Жыл бұрын
Nice review! Im glad you gave it another go , i remember seeing it when it came out and was very underwhelmed but when i was watching it years later, after going through some bad breakups and whatnot i was like OhhHHH ok i get it lol
@knurdyob
@knurdyob Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you came around to it more this time, sometimes it's not enough that I love a film, I need others to validate my own opinions as strange as that sounds
@michaeldezess7607
@michaeldezess7607 23 күн бұрын
Beautiful. Kubrick is one of my favorite directors.
@agitatedmongoose
@agitatedmongoose Жыл бұрын
You nailed it. It's a movie I want everyone else to see but I don't ever dare recommend it.
@nemohalperin
@nemohalperin Жыл бұрын
It's true that often our mood or frame of mind on any given day can change how we view a film. But at the same time, in the same way we feel when we meet a new person our instinctive reaction is an important factor. EWS is a very dull film for such an exciting stimulating subject. Yes, we can all revisit it, and maybe through familiarity build some affection for it - but ultimately it is a relationship that is strained from the beginning. Cruise and Kidman are a huge part of why it doesn't work. In retrospect that's probably because they never had any believable chemistry as a couple in the first place. What we see on screen was an echo of real life. The couple in EWS should never have been married, and it appears the same could be said of Cruise and Kidman. They both lacked the necessary spark and crackle that would drive this particular story and I feel it would have been a completely different film if the casting had chosen more suitable leads. Kubrick f***ed up on this one. He's allowed to though, because he's the GOAT. Enough said.
@eriksturdevant8589
@eriksturdevant8589 Жыл бұрын
Any plans to review two "unofficial" Kubrick films: "A.I": (started by Kubrick, finished by Spielberg) or "Zardoz" ( uncredited technical advisor)?
@Celestialrob
@Celestialrob Жыл бұрын
I had the great pleasure of attending "Full Metal Jacket" in London in the presence of Stanley Kubrick. He accepted our applause afterwards and said a few words. I really like your revisit of "Eyes Wide Shut" as it's a thoughtful view that has benefitted from more distance. I've often tried explaining to others about why I revisit classic movies, to blank stares. I need to rewatch EWS, Lolita and Barry Lyndon. Kubrick may be my most loved director and I jump around his movies as I think about my personal favorite. Thank you!
@saadati
@saadati Жыл бұрын
I was amazed by Eyes Wide Shut the first time I watched it, and I always considered it as an underrated masterpiece. I am glad to hear that more people are liking it.
@blackcat-zw5im
@blackcat-zw5im Жыл бұрын
One of rarest film that in my honest opinion, It's Dying Art with so much more to say. I believe EWS is unfinished film by Kubrick's standards and yes, Kubrick is on another level to this day and onwards.
@artoriuscastus5404
@artoriuscastus5404 Жыл бұрын
my favorite movie of all time
@damoncurrie7103
@damoncurrie7103 Жыл бұрын
Are these the last 24 minutes of eyes wide shut perhaps. The toy store scene is not the end of the movie. They buy a teddy bear for their daughter. Tom notices the two men watching them. They smie at him and he smiles back. Next scene, they exit the store and Kidman takes the daughter into a limo with the two old men. Tom is confused, Kidmantas him not to worry or he'll scare their daughter, She tells him not to ask questions and coaxes him to get Inside of the limo. They drive to the manor in Long Taland in silence while the daughter is finishing coloring a rainbow inside of a coloring book. A guard greets the two man and the two men exit with Kidman and her daughter. The guard tells Tom to wait in the car. Tom watches them all go inside. He asks the driver what's going on and the driver doesn't answer. Tom keeps looking at the manor door. Eventually Tum exits the car and goes inside the manor. It's empty. He runs around looking for his family. He hears voices coming from inside of a room. He opens the door and hears his wife saying "now sucker a lllipop" His wife and daughter are naked in bed with the two men, who are wearing mesks. They're all wrapped in a bed sheet so it's only implied nudity. Two quards wearing masks-enter and restrain Tom. He struggles and ane of them punches him in the stomach. He collapses on the floor and starts crying. The two old men ask him "what's the meter, as if they are confused. Kidman sells them "he doesn't know. After a moment of silence one of the men simply says, "you've cost us a life. It must be replaced." His daughter begins to cry and Kidman comforts her. Then she walks over to Tom and comforts him, saying something along the lines of "they're not going to keep her, it's just every now and then. Then she assures him that they won't harm her or the two of them. She says "you're one of us now. As he is coming to terms with it, she puts a mask on him and then she starts disrobing him as the guards let go of him. Before I get into the last scene, let me tell you what was explained to me about what I just told you. What was explained to me is that this is Tom and his daughter's initiation ritual into the society. The reason he never has sex in the movie after the party is because it's a part of the ritual. They are watching him, paving people off, and keeping him celibate for the initiation. Two other things. The toy store scene is about Kidman selling their daughter to the society. The two men are there to look at "toys." The end of the rainbow is about Tom finding out the dark truth about what the elites are doing, which will occur through Tom having sex. The last time we see it is before they go inside the manor. The last scene. The last scene is one continuous steady-cam shot following 2legler. It begins on a painting of a baby, as Ziegler is getting dressed and then walking into a party that's going on at his house. The shot follows him through the party and during it we see Kidman surrounded by a group of men and laughing. Lots of pictures and symbols of "elitists" are seen in the background during this sequence. What can also be seen are pictures that allude to Kubrick's previous works; pictures of Ziegler with generals, astronauts, and either Jack Nicholson himself or a man that's supposed to be him. This was apparently Kubrick outing all of the people involved as well as saying his goodbye to cinema It ends with us seeing Tom off in the distance of the shot. He is standing by himself, eway from other partygoers and staring off into the distance in a zombie-like fashion, as if disillusioned by everything. He's on the outdoor balcony. He casually jumps over the ralling as no one even notices and the movie cuts to black. Kubrick has left the building. Kubrick said the movie was simply about how the people who run the world are rich banking families who are profoundly evil. They are pedophiles and are holding women as sex slaves, while murdering anyone who challenges them. And no one is talking about it. That's it. There is no underlying theme about the need for intimacy. The only underlying theme is about how naive everyone is to what's really going on. From what I was told this isn't even a real secret to people who worked in the industry at the time. Over 7 hours of flim did not make it into the final cut. The argument over final cut was over defamation and explicitness. One of the names in the movie sounded like someone powerful apparently and they wanted Stanley to cut it. Supposedly he didn't. A lot of people think as the guy at the beginning named Sandor. There was a gray area over how much power Stanley's director's cut had over the run time. The studio could not change the content of the film, but they were allowed to cut it off before it ran over two hours and forty minutes. The reason they cut down the film is because they thought the pedophile angle would piss people off and ruin Tom and Nicole's career. Supposedly it had nothing to do with illuminati button pushers stopping what was being said. It was more of an appearance thing. But again, this is Just the Hollywood insider story about why they cut the film's ending. It's not the insider insider's story, if you get my drift. Keep in mind that they told Stanley to cut the ending and he didn't want to do it. There is a strong chance he was waiting for them to cave and then he died and they cut the ending without him being around to agree to it. My belief is that if he had lived and he knew they were threatening to cut the ending to fit the run time, he would've probably recut it so that he didn't go over the run time and audiences got to see the ending. If you work in the industry and want to hear this from a direct source, my advice is to find someone who worked in post or as a studio rep or exec during that period. Those people are the ones who see the first cuts. You might get lucky.
@danielfoley1001
@danielfoley1001 Жыл бұрын
There is no evidence for ANY of this. You have to believe his family is in on all of this too. These “deleted” scenes are so Un-Kubrick like and would make this movie comically bad. Show some respect to the filmmaker
@p_nk7279
@p_nk7279 Жыл бұрын
As we know, Roger Ebert, ever the right-on genius, immediately rated it a masterpiece on first release. Yay Roger!
@kmdesign9303
@kmdesign9303 2 ай бұрын
The one thing that resonates with me from Eyes Wide Shut, is the many, many bullets I have dodged in my life, an almost prophetic reasoning reality would intrude into my life and save me from myself.
@thejamnasium6447
@thejamnasium6447 9 ай бұрын
I love Kubrick, and I love this movie. I find myself putting this and The Shining on just randomly when I want to have something on and not necessarily pay attention.
@JohnWesleyDowney
@JohnWesleyDowney 9 ай бұрын
I think the film is a dream and there are many indicators in the film that tell you that. I see a similar vibe to Mulholland Drive, which I think is also a dream.
@eamonndoconnor
@eamonndoconnor 4 ай бұрын
It's a true masterpiece. And I think we're meant to be left feeling empty. It's very Beckettesque in a way
@tybg-
@tybg- Жыл бұрын
so glad people make recent videos about this film, we gotta keep doing so. the multiple messages/meaning of the film still persist in todays society.
@BishopWalters12
@BishopWalters12 Жыл бұрын
Good movie and Nicole is topless which every movie needs.
@anthonymusto3537
@anthonymusto3537 Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@larsyxa
@larsyxa Жыл бұрын
Its almost dreamlike, there is one scene that stands out for me, still lingers, when Marie Richardson(Marion aptly named) proclaimes her love for William(Tom), movie shift tonaly just for a few minutes, from Freud to real longing for human connection, love.
@makethebestofwhatsaround3113
@makethebestofwhatsaround3113 11 ай бұрын
Marion’s confession of her love for Bill with her dead father lying on the bed in the background.
@Lachenmann7
@Lachenmann7 15 күн бұрын
You’re endlessly fascinating! While this film is about many things, it’s seem more and more clear (as time goes by) that it’s fundamentally-and very darkly-about child-trafficking amongst the super-rich in late Capitalism. It may be his most hopeless film.
@ryanrudolph5667
@ryanrudolph5667 Жыл бұрын
There been a lot of stuff written comparing this to Brandon Cronenberg’s Infinity pool. In fact right before I checked what was in my subscription box I was reading something about it. Funny coincidence. I assume you’ll probably do a review for that film so I won’t bother asking if you will. Also, I would like if you did another review for Kubrick’s Lolita really outlining why you think it is so great. I like you old review but I think you’ve become better since at expressing your thoughts. Continue the great work. As well will you ever review the work of John Waters or Russ Meyers?
@nordoflobsquipple3121
@nordoflobsquipple3121 Жыл бұрын
I loved it. My favorite Kubrick.
@taker68
@taker68 Жыл бұрын
I likes the film but it's far from Kubrick's best. I've heard the scenes at the masque party were censored after Kubrick's death by creating figures to stand in front of people doing sex acts. I know Kubrick lived in the UK and filmed there due to fear of flying or whatever but this was the first film that I could see it since I have lived in NYC. Full Metal Jacket fooled me but not this one.
@gpapa31
@gpapa31 Жыл бұрын
One of my all time favourite Kubrick films and highly misunderstood by his fans. I don’t know if l personally lean towards the “masterpiece” side of the group but definitely NOT towards the ones who claim that is one of Kubrick’s worst work. IMHO it’s one of his best films, just not up there with Clockwork Orange, 2001 and The Shining.
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver Жыл бұрын
It's up there.
@russellb5573
@russellb5573 9 ай бұрын
An excellent encapsulation of the movie. I watched this video of yours previously and I rewatched the film again this evening. It is endlessly, endlessly fascinating, like taking a trip down an adult rabbit hole through a looking glass darkly. It isn't a perfect film and I question some of Kubrik's direction, shot choices and casting but I forgive it for all of that, because of its boldness, starkness and absolutely riveting, mesmerising, almost expressionist acting at times, when the script must have been an unbelievable challenge for the likes of Nicole Kidman, Tom Cruise and others to make credible. I don't think it is a masterpiece and I do find it drags a little at times but I wouldn't have it cut down by one frame. It's a shame that there isn't more male open nudity in the film to gender balance the sect gathering but I guess that was just the sign of the no show times! I would love to see something like this done in a similar vein from the female (director) perspective some day. That would be interesting. Hmmmm... Nicole Kidman's character is called Alice; curiouser and curiouser!
@sj6049
@sj6049 Жыл бұрын
Incredible film. Eyes Wide Shut is the film that Tar wishes it is.
@ernestmendez5487
@ernestmendez5487 Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for inspiring me to watch this again. It’s been so long-and I thoroughly enjoyed it! Much more than I did before. As my expectations the first time, like yours had been, certainly colored my opinion unnecessarily. And like you said, there is just so much going on, as it’s so dense. And like someone else said, here, it’s certainly commendable that you’ve somewhat publicly reexamined your own opinion about the movie. A rather large thing to do, in my opinion. And now, my own long-winded review, powered by a machaca plate, and not caffeine, believe it or not, for the sake of thought and entertainment. Aside from how stiffly Anglo-Saxon the sexuality is in this movie (except for the flirting-all of it was superb), it reminds me of one book-The Arabian Nights. As those truly classic tales all lie under the umbrella of one idea: adultery. Not sure if you’ve read it, but it starts off with a sultan who doesn’t trust women anymore, and to the brutally cruel extent, that he only marries virgins and then has them executed the next day. And to save these women, Scheherazade, the narrator of the stories, agrees to marry the sultan and tells him wonderful stories, leaving him in such suspense, that he lets her live so that he can hear more. And this happens for A Thousand And One Nights, which is, I think, the original title of the stories. Anyways, there’s no other stories quite like them. When it comes to absolute mystery, twists and turns, magic, suspense, violence, death, bravery, romance, love, lust-and their culture spoke extremely freely of lust and love and desire, specifically. And that is what I think Eyes Wide Shut really is: a meditation on adultery: that’s as much of a surreal whirlwind visually, as it is, emotionally-using deftly, every psychological space in between; a truly human psychology, the way Shakespeare and Dostoevsky so often portrayed it in their stories: how human beings quite often hide their own motives from themselves, and how so many people don’t even know who they are, while acting on brute instinct without a thought in their heads. Eyes Wide Shut is absolutely driven by mystery, curiosity, and suspense-and it’s absolutely wonderful; wonderfully paced, with a story perfectly taut, so that we, ourselves, are fully engaged and grappling with an organism that ignites our own feelings of mystery and curiosity and suspense. And the movie is much like The History Of Aladdin, Or The Wonderful Lamp (a story, apparently, along with The History Of Ali Baba, And The Forty Robbers, that is not believed to be part of the original stories)-when Cruise’s character attempts to revisit the serendipitously dangerous and intoxicating experience-only to experience the same exact places that are utterly normal and no longer transformed by magic and illusion and exhilaration and story-telling fate. Cruise and Kidman deliver absolutely brilliant performances. Because as actors, you can tell that they fully believe in the story and the characters that they’re playing (and let’s be honest, the subject matter is likely profound in the obvious way). And I have to say with ugly lowbrow words-Nicole Kidman is so f*****g hot in that movie. Her legs and a*s and her whole body are simply incredible. Reminds me of that movie To Die For when she’s dancing in front of the headlights of that car while Joaquin Phoenix is completely, and stupidly, spellbound by her great, and utterly manipulative, sexual power. Anyways, the movie is much like The Arabian Nights because it doesn’t hold back when it comes to being provocatively human, and provocatively imaginative. And that’s why The Arabian Nights was the most popular book in Victorian England. Eyes Wide Shut is the only Kubrick Movie I’ve seen that doesn’t seem so wearisomely premeditated-as we glide and fly through the movie and the story, through feelings, and lives, and heights and falls, and ugly and hideous dreams of envy, and consequently, desire. And it truly proves the point that being unfaithful begins in one’s own mind. It begins with doubt-and the direct opposite of love, which is judgement. The movie also demonstrates how inhibition leads to compulsion; how we put ourselves in great danger by not exploring our own minds; and how, like Shakespeare said in A Lover’s Complaint, “Not age but sorrow over me hath power/I might as yet have been a spreading flower/Fresh to myself, if I had self-applied/Love to myself and to no love beside.” Eyes Wide Shut, I must say, is now my favorite Kubrick Movie. As it has that Mozartean creative feeling, most of the time, when premeditation and extemporaneousness seem nearly indivisible; when creativity feels so organic that we don’t even question time, or have a reason to ask self-indulgent questions. But there are a few things I didn’t like about the movie. Let me start with how a mediocre f*****g piano player (a true wet-noodle, non-entity of a character) should not have been the person to deliver Cruise’s character to that utterly brutal and heedlessly hedonistic exclusive club. If I had read that in a book, it would have took me out of it; when comparing it to everything else. A wasted opportunity to be charming and nebulous and witty, in my mind. And then Kidman’s story of her dream. Good god, I rolled my eyes so hard, when she said, “he was f*****g me-and he kept f*****g me.” Because no one uses that word regarding themselves unless it comes from a place of imaginative desire and lust. And although, it made more sense when it was used as a tormenting sound bite for Cruise’s character-it still sounded false as a cracked bell. As though, ambiguity itself were turned into a cringe motion of deliberateness. But the worst part about the movie: when that old man explains EVERYTHING to Cruise’s character. Like, what the hell? Let’s just destroy, in one stroke, every ounce of mystery and suspense and curiosity that had been roiling within me the entire movie. As it was a direct contradiction to every feeling and idea the movie had conveyed up until that point. But I suppose it is still a Hollywood movie-because it was a very Hollywood thing to do, and I felt a bit disappointed with that bit of closure. However, the flaws don’t matter very much to me-although, I have to say, that the impact of the ending certainly felt softened to me by that blast back to “reality.” Because thankfully Cruise and Kidman are so powerful in that movie that they nearly made up for it. Because, like most of the movie, words weren’t even necessary. My last trifling complaint will be about the score, the main theme. As a well-rounded musician, they could have had at least added a bit of fugue if they were hardly ever going to touch the bass clef, and with so few notes. Well, it looks like I’ve written an essay, here (it was quite easy and fun). But thanks again, for opening my mind to a movie that has made my list of personal favorites. A movie that seems to remain highly and criminally underrated.
@GoogleVideoMan
@GoogleVideoMan Жыл бұрын
My favorite Christmas movie. We watch it every Xmas. It’s become a tradition.
@deadstrobe
@deadstrobe Жыл бұрын
Saw this 3 times in the theater. Each time or was a different, disturbing & unique experience! I had my wisdom tooth removed a day after my 3rd theatrical viewing. Thank goodness!
@kengruz669
@kengruz669 Жыл бұрын
I hope you'll continue to be open to the reassessment of this film, maybe even realizing you were right the first time around.
@heartlights
@heartlights Жыл бұрын
Some people have suggested that the moment when Alice walks through a doorway at the party (after telling Bill she'll meet him by the drinks or whatever) marks the beginning of the "dream" and that perhaps the dream itself is the concoction of the mind of Alice or Bill or both to hide from themselves that they actually went through with their acts of infidelity at the party.
@Danzyr
@Danzyr Жыл бұрын
I liked it, but it feels like things were cut out of the ladder half of the movie.
@josephelizondo3579
@josephelizondo3579 Жыл бұрын
A great great movie. Do believe, however, that Stanley Kubrick died before one or two final edits. I know this has been denied, but it's not quite finished to his standards. IMHO
@dvitoc
@dvitoc Жыл бұрын
It is a great final line
@gigabix
@gigabix Жыл бұрын
Off topic, big time: As far as I can see, you've never reviewed either of the Knives Out movies, and I'm really curious to know your thoughts, mostly because I've experienced them as big, shiny edifices of nothingburger with empty cores, like.....a glass onion. Their wild popularity is utterly baffling to me, and if anyone can put their finger on the pulse here, I think it's you.
@buzzcrushtrendkill
@buzzcrushtrendkill Жыл бұрын
How much honesty is too much? I really like the film. It's like a great Twilight Zone episode at a feature length film. So much to question what is reality and what is dream/subconsciousness. The Rainbow world and the "Where the Rainbow ends" world.
@michaelcooney9368
@michaelcooney9368 Жыл бұрын
I totally do not believe Kubrick was involved in taking a moon landing or was victim of foul play. But even more and more as time passes... Kubrick had such big brass ones, to deal with the real lifestyles of the .001%. people would have thought that the most outlandish delusional story, but post Epstein we just get desensitized to it, but ironically it would be vastly harder to film subject matters in the tent pole franchise based modern film industry.
@Starkardur
@Starkardur Жыл бұрын
Eyes wide shut is an incrredibly well made epic film, too bad the movie really isn't about anything I find THAT interesting or something that validates that much scope
@anthonymusto3537
@anthonymusto3537 Жыл бұрын
Said a egoless person!congrats
@Tolstoy111
@Tolstoy111 Жыл бұрын
I've always thought it was, among other things, a comment on Cruise's Sex Symbol image at the time. Every single character reacts to him sexually.
@ErikFlores-f8q
@ErikFlores-f8q 5 ай бұрын
Great observation
@dumbcat
@dumbcat Жыл бұрын
they say the more important parts of the film were removed and destroyed. it does seem muted, like it's missing the knockout punch
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver Жыл бұрын
Who says that?
@EthanButler
@EthanButler Жыл бұрын
do you write any of this down or are you just doing this from the top of your head? I'm genuinely curious
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