Lotus Emira vs Alfa Romeo 4C Review

[@christianr772]

I’ll take the 4C styling any day! Twice on Sunday!

[@DLiotine]

Emira is much simpler, 4C is a baroque mess. I hate it. Nothing to do with the 33stradale simplicity.

[@christianr772]

@@DLiotine as long as you can tolerate the paint bubbling (not imperceptible either) the AC malfunctions, bricking of ECUs when they get slightly damp, and looks of an Evora in a Fat Suit (which truthfully, is all it it). Luckily the price on them is already coming down right out of the chute, and plenty available. Unfortunately there is no infrastructure in the U.S. to support and service them. Purchasers will frustrate themselves which multiple long distance trips to the service centers. One thing that bothers me to no end though after you see it is the out of proportion height to length from a side view. Roof and headliner height is WAAAY too high given its length, giving it a roached look and hump back stance. Not that it affects the aero and downforce, but ugly IMHO. Your mileage will vary.

[@jakevincent3057]

4c will be in the shop. Emira all the way.

[@TChan-z8j]

really? You heard that Lotus stands for lots of trouble usually serious? Dealership network is about as weak for both marques. In terms of parts availability, Lotus is probably worst.

[@PeteAnda]

Manual box makes all the difference for me. Great video. Thanks.

[@Life411]

Totally get that! Thanks for watching and for the kind feedback.

[@alexwong9118]

Great video / Comparison 💯👍 wow already 2700 miles 👏👏👏 me only 613 miles 😅

[@Life411]

Thanks Alex, good to hear from you! Any big plans for once you get past the break-in period?

[@sweden_ove2074]

❤ Excellent idea to compare these cars. I would love if the Alpine also added to the comparison. And specs are not all. Feelings are what makes you choose your choise. And feelings is the way to go. 😊

[@Life411]

Thanks for watching and for the feedback and thoughts. I hear a lot about the Alpine and would love to add it to the mix...just not sure how I would ever have the opportunity to drive one.

[@gpapa31]

4c ftw! Alfa hit a home run with that car, especially post 2015 models where they managed to iron out electrical issues. They are extremely reliable. All it needs is engine mount bushes (makes gear shifting even faster and crispier), suspension blocks (improve high speed cornering stability), swap the nasty Pirelli tires with Michelin Super Sports and do a Stage 2 ECU tuning to 300bhp and the car is untouchable for that price bracket, even slightly above.

[@stevelovescars]

I am a huge Alfa fan, my daily is a 2019 Giulia Ti Sport. I love the look of the 4C and I looked forward to driving one. I can’t help but think that if it had a traditional manual it would have been considered an epic must-have. However, the DCT just lets it down. From a performance standpoint it’s fine, just that it sounded like an elephant fart when it shifts gears. Also, it just reduces the engagement factor for me. That said, I am still tempted to buy one before the prices go up.

[@jamesroseby3823]

Wait until you drive one before judging. The 4C is a brilliant drive. It’s as fast and engaging as anyone would need for the road. Unbelievably frugal on fuel for the performance it provides too….And nothing has gone wrong with mine after 8.5yrs and 50,000km, track days included. Get one.

[@stevelovescars]

@@jamesroseby3823I did drive one, it was astoundingly fast and the handling superb. The exhaust sounds great, but under normal driving conditions I thought it sounded terrible when it shifted gears. It will be a legendary car, I just think it would have been greater with a manual. I get it, they don’t even offer manuals on Ferraris any more so maybe I’m old fashioned, but I just believe it makes a sports car more engaging.

[@jamesroseby3823]

@@stevelovescars Get it. The short gearing of the first three gears and nature of the turbo engine mean you’ll not miss the gear lever. The TCT is perfect for it. You only live once.

[@Life411]

The lack of a manual was a significant factor for me too. I did the math recently and I think I've only owned three automatics my entire life. Just something I love about the connection one gets and the control. But I'm preaching to the choir...you know that. But if you have an opportunity to own an Alfa Romeo 4C and can live with the compromises a car that size entails (similar to the Elise), I'd say go for it. It's still a phenomenal car and a blast to explore it's capabilities and enjoy its beauty (incl the sound).

[@paulhoffmann2200]

The 4C is a raw little beast with a gorgeous exoskeleton. We are all lucky Alfa/Maserati was crazy enough to build them.

[@WTF_888]

I was drooling over the 4C four years ago. My wife hated it and didn't let me buy it. So I ended up getting the F87 M2 CS. Very nice car and more powerful, but I still miss the rawness of the 4C. Very different than the M2 CS. I'm a little itchy now to sell the M2 and buy a slightly used 4C. Test drove the Emira recently as well, not that much different than the M2 CS, perhaps a more hardcore version later will be better.

[@Life411]

Thanks for watching. Let me know if you end up getting a 4C.

[@WTF_888]

​@Life411 At the same time, I'm not sure if it'll be a wise decision as the M2 CS is also an amazing car and equally rare. But each time I think about that raw and visceral feeling of the 4C, I just.......Tough decision. 🤔

[@Stranglewood]

Old school manual driver here - particularly enjoyed it on my 1974 2002 and my 2008 ///M Coupe. That M Coupe, by the way, was MUCH faster than the 2002 (obviously), but never quite erased the memory of driving the 2002 from my mind. The 4C did, though. Those worrying about the "DCT" might miss the clutch, but that's really the only mechanical difference. You still choose your gear, you rpms, and can even rev-match (though it isn't necessary). Don't know about the Emira, but in 2015 the Alfa had the fastest automated manual in the world - equalling the unit in the Bugatti. I remember it kicked so hard I thought I'd blown the trans. The real beauty of the 4C, though, is in its raw, unadulterated handling. That's greatly contributed to by its steering, and its mechanical grip. When I owned it, I was a fairly experienced driver with multiple track days. The 2002 would make me laugh when it got sideways on freeway off ramps. The M Coupe would put a silly grin on my face when passing knee dragging motorcyclists on Deal's Gap. They were fun. But the 4C was...nuts. More grip than I had guts to explore. Best brake feel in a modern car, period. Steering feel nearly as good as on the Elise - mainly weight and extra rubber sapping its feel a tiny bit. As far as turbo kicking in on a corner - if you're adding throttle that much in a curve, either you're going too slow or you're about to make like a ballet dancer on ice. BTW, you owe it to yourself to get that Elise on the track at Road Atlanta. The BMW M Performance Center in SC is nice...but Road Atlanta is one of the best street tracks on earth. Great video - I feel like the comments expressed here are right on - unlike say those from say Chris Harris.

[@Life411]

Thanks for watching, for the kind words and for sharing your thoughts and personal experiences with these cars. I'll definitely have to put Road Atlanta on my to do list.

[@gbarton800]

Good impressions. - FYI, Emira numbers… 400 HP 310 lb-ft (6 spd) ~3200 lbs. (no Emira available is close to 3100). - Redline does not change between modes.

[@Life411]

Thanks for the feedback and for watching. As I mentioned in the video, you will find different numbers out there for various reasons, but they were used in the video to compare the cars relative to each other, so they're "good enough for government work" as the saying goes. Also, re: red line, I personally observed it change and a quick google search returned this from a forum post: --- The driving mode affects the following attributes: Engine maximum rev limit Throttle progression Exhaust valve behaviour at idle and when driving Launch control (auto and DCT only) DPM characteristics --- These are hand-built cars, so I wouldn't be surprised if some of our different observations are due to that natural variation.

[@mpower1226]

I owned all 3. Elise, 4c and Emira. By far, Emira is the one with the most problems being the most expensive out of 3

[@christianr772]

True dat. Wait till the U.S. customers need service issues addressed!

[@Life411]

Sorry to hear that. Mind expanding on that? Just curious what sort of problems you encountered with your Emira and whether you still own it. It does seem to be a bit of a crap shoot with Lotus' QC.

[@andrewrossnagel9433]

​@@Life411go on the forums and issues are endless. And Lotus as usual gives fvck all about their customers. I canceled my order and very happy I did.

[@Life411]

@andrewrossnagel9433 I'm on the forums a bit it doesn't seem that bad to me. Sometimes the forums give a jaded view because that's where people go when they have problems, not so much when they are problem free. It's kind of like the News.

[@mpower1226]

@@Life411 the problem is. All these Emira issues are small Qc related issue. Not a really serious in nature. But so many at that. Window regulator issuesx2, premature failure of leather seats. Hvac fan resistor pack issue - their solution is to put a diaper on so it doesnt get wet. Paint bubbling. Subwoofer making weird popping sound like 50 bucks aftermarket ebay stereo. Not too mention the reverse lockout ring being stuck when try to reverse. Small things but it does wear you out. Never had any of these with my prev cars, GT4 and Spyder. Didnt have one with 4c. Didnt have one with elise.

[@BorisArtemyev]

Emira has a USB port right by the rear view mirror to connect your dashcam to. I use it connect my escort redline and a dascam combo. Hides the wiring pretty neatly.

[@Life411]

Thanks for watching...obviously you have a great attention to detail. I'm aware of that port, but I'd like my dashcam to be always on so it can also serve as a parking monitor. I need to hardwire it to an always-on fuse/circuit.

[@BorisArtemyev]

@@Life411 just wanted to say your videos are very informational. I was looking into hardwiring it for always on connection but decided against it since the battery might get drained quicker than normal. If you find a solution for a hardwire with a battery backup I’m sure you will post it Emira forum or lotus talk :)

[@Life411]

@BorisArtemyev thanks for the kind words. There are some threads on this in the forums already where folks have installed cams with battery backups. Personally, it seems like the battery can handle it except for very long periods when you would have it on the trickle charger anyway. So I'm planning to give it a try without a battery backup and monitor things, but yeah, was definitely planning to make it a video. Good idea to include some of the other solutions folks implemented.

[@theapplepaul]

This is a dream comparison. Have driven the Elise, not the other two. Yet. So really appreciate this back to back. I had the 'poor man's Elise' at the time I test drove the'05 Elise.. the Toyota MR2-S. 138 hp vs 190 hp, 2195 vs 1987 pounds. Way easier to get in and out of than the Lotus. And a briilant driver...until I drove the Elise and realized Lotus was in another league. Hope to get some wheel time in a 4C and Emira someday.

[@Life411]

Thanks for watching! When you get some wheel time in a 4C/Emira, let me know what you think.

[@_VelociDad]

Great review! My brother has a 2018 4C Spider and it’s epic! Also, @16:25 we’ve all done that, lol! I’ve driven the Evora 400 but looking forward to an Emira drive one day! Thx for this, sub’d!

[@Life411]

My pleasure and thanks for watching! If you haven't already, please let your brother and all your car buddies know about my channel. TIA, Peter

[@05_NOLA_21]

I actually googled a comparison, and you came up, so thank god you did🎉

[@Life411]

Very cool. This has turned out to be one of my more popular videos, so I guess you're not alone. Thanks for watching!

[@TChan-z8j]

Just one question for Lotus. If Alfa can afford to make the 4C with a carbon fiber tub! Why does the Emira command double the price but no carbon fibre chassis? Would profit/greed be a factor?

[@simonbussey7530]

Lotus even with it's Chinese financial backing has very limited R&D ability. You'll never see a Lotus engine or gearbox for this reason, they'll always have to buy someone else's. They do make their own chassis. They glue aluminium together by hand the same way they've been doing it for decades. And they've gotten very good at it. Under the skin an Emira is essentially the same car they've made for the last 30 years. It works, and it would just be too costly to scrap this and start over from scratch with a carbon tub chassis. If they did the price of the cars would be a lot more expensive than they even are now.

[@Life411]

Good questions, but I think there are several factors to consider. Lotus' unique extruded aluminum and epoxied chassis is exceptional and I've always wondered why other car manufacturers never licensed it. Is a carbon fiber chassis better? I'm not sure that it is...I'm guessing they have similar pros and cons. Also, could Alfa Romeo "afford" to build the 4C with a CF tub? Popular belief is that AR lost money on every single 4C they built and sold. As a massive corporation, they can absorb this as a loss leader to sell 10,000x of their other profitable cars. But Lotus doesn't have that business model...they need to make a profit on every unit. Just my thoughts on the subject...thanks for watching!

[@katsclub3361]

How do you find the Facebook groups? I can't stand the mentality in model specific Facebook groups. They just spend the whole time massaging each others egos for buying the best car. Dare to suggest another car might be as good or better at something they'll just jump on you, tell you you're wrong, and argue whatever car you suggested is rubbish and theirs is the best thing ever. It's like some sort of extreme fan-boy cult. PS - Nice comparison video!

[@Life411]

Glad you liked the video...thanks for watching! For context, I was never on Facebook until two years ago when, at age 54, I started this channel and had a Total Hip Replacement. So in general not a huge fan of social media. But I definitely know what you mean. If I didn't have this channel, I'd typically only use those groups and the non-FB forums as-needed. But with trying to build my channel and help as many people as possible, participating on Facebook is a necessary evil. I'm usually on the Hip Support groups daily...the car ones when I have a question or new content to share. Thanks for asking. PS Have you found any good FB groups for cars that are not model specific? It's always a challenge for me to find good groups that will allow me to share my content.

[@155stw]

Actually changing the timing belt is easy. I think compared to any FWD soccer mom sedan/SUV with a transverse V6, the 4C is probably easier to do. With a lift and correct tools I would put it at 6 hrs. DIY, maybe 12 hours. Not sure what the shop/book rate is. But sometimes some mechanics over charge, Like 4-hours to change a 4-C exhaust, that's a joke. It's barely 1/2 an exhaust system compared to a Honda civic. Probably due to incorrect parts or badly manufactured parts.

[@jamesroseby3823]

Which feels faster on the road? Which is the more exciting drive? In which do you sit lower and feel like you’re sitting in something that’s different? Which is half the price but definitely not half the fun? Which has had nothing go wrong in over 8 years and 50,000km of ownership? It’s the Alfa for me….but I’m very much biased. Enjoy your Emira, EZPZ, it’s still a lovely machine….Love it in the Hethel yellow you chose too.

[@Life411]

Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. I definitely get what you're saying and if you've had 50,000km in the 4C without anything going wrong, that's awesome! Since you mention km, what part of the world are you in? Just curious because European pricing of 4Cs is very different from North America. Enjoy your 4C! I'll enjoy the Emira/Elise and reminisce fondly about my own 4C.

[@jamesroseby3823]

@@Life411 I’m in Sydney, Australia. Prices are steadily increasing, at least asking prices are. Around $100,000-$120,000AUD for lower mileage SE/LE ones. That’s around $60,000-$75,000USD. New Emiras are close to $220,000(inc on-roads) plus options here in Oz. Not sure if there’s wiggle room on the price.

[@Life411]

Looks like a similar price ratio to what we see here in N.A., but prices in Oz seem to average about 10-15% higher for both cars based on your numbers. As a friend and former 4C owner recently mentioned to me, when you say it like that, it doesn't seem rational...he just sold his 4C to buy a Porsche GT4 at more than twice the price. But the heart wants what the heart wants... good conversation!

[@jamesroseby3823]

@@Life411 I’m simply an Alfista who was dreaming his whole life that Alfa would build a car like the 4C. For once I got my wish and I won’t ever be giving her up….It’ll be passed on to my sons and they can decide what becomes of her.

[@Life411]

Sounds like how I feel about my Elise. I also think it's cool that I have a viewer on the other side of the world in Oz 😎 Enjoy that 4C!

[@MrParadigm1981]

I have a highly modified boxster, you should review that and compare. In Charlotte.

[@Life411]

shoot me an email so we can connect and discuss game.of.life.411 at gmail

[@andreharmouch6268]

Sure i go for alfaromeo 4C

[@richhand930]

Looks is highly subjective. Maybe this category could be exchanged for driver engagement or pleasure? Slightly less subjective.

[@Life411]

Thanks for watching and for the constructive feedback...I appreciate it!

[@jasondoe5741]

Issue I have is the lack of the dealer network for any of them.

[@Life411]

I hear you. I think the good news is though that these cars tend to be reliable. It's a little early to speak to the Emira, but I've owned a Lotus Elise for 10 years and the Alfa Romeo 4C for 2 years and really didn't need a dealer network for anything. Thanks for watching!

[@manni8180]

Nice video👍🏻 Although, I’m not sure I would take an Emira on top of a 4C… performances might be very similar, or maybe even better for the Emira, but I feel like it is more like a GT car, not a track car.. like a Cayman. I would definitely get an Exige on top of a 4C.( but I would still like the look of the Alfa😉)

[@Life411]

Thanks for watching and for the kind feedback. Fair points. One of these days, while I'm still able to fold myself in half, I'm gonna have to get behind the wheel of an Exige.

[@ms8742]

Nice comparison.

[@Life411]

Glad you think so!

[@tg_ny]

Didn’t Alfa Romeo retune the 4C suspension late in production? I have heard it made a world of difference.

[@Life411]

I haven't heard of any official suspension retune, but a lot of owners do stuff themselves. Thanks for watching.

[@tg_ny]

@@Life411 It’s my understanding that Alfa Romeo had retuned the suspension geometry to correct the steering challenges by the time they launched the spider version. I believe they then offered the retune to owners of the launch edition cars. Apparently alfaworks in the UK also sells the components for the retune. As well as an ECU upgrade that brings the hp up to 300. I am glad they can ship to the US. As a Miata owner who loves light cars, the 4C, with its Italian style, mid-engined layout and lightweight chassis, looks like it will be a worthy upgrade.

[@Life411]

Great that you're considering a 4C...I'm sure you will not be disappointed. It is an amazing car and I was glad to have the opty to own one for two years. If you have a source for the retuned suspension, please share.

[@tg_ny]

@@Life411 My understanding is that the factory has offered to update the early edition 4C models to modify the suspension geometry to make the steering more favorable, i.e. not so overcome by irregularities in the roadways. I am not sure whether or not they are doing this under warranty. I also understand that alfaworks in England has the parts available to improve the suspension, and that they can ship these to the US. Then at that point, either you can change out the parts yourself if you are the type to get your hands dirty, or have a shop which specializes in Alfas do it. I am not sure whether an Alfa dealership will do it and if or how it would affect any warranty coverage on the car. alfaworks and Eurocompulsion also sell ECU upgrades, which appear to be very easy to install, which provide the 4C a 40 hp increase for the engine. I just read about one of the alfaworks modified ECUs which brings the power up to 300 hp. In a mid-engined car that only weighs 2200 lbs, that must be a total blast. I am hoping to grab a 4C within the next year, before the public realizes that Alfa Romeo didn’t make many of them and the price skyrockets. From what I understand, the car is mechanically simple, and thus pretty reliable. I do know that timing belt changes are a bit involved and costly (the mechanics must remove the right rear fender - there are videos on KZbin which show the entire service process), but it is not nearly ss costly as the task is on a car like the Ferrari 360.

[@Life411]

@@tg_ny my 4C was pretty reliable other than some electrical gremlins that a new battery resolved. But timing belt and bolt tightening services are pricey relative to the cost of the car

[@wallyr.7854]

I think had the Alpha Romeo 4C been a manual transmission, it would’ve been the absolute perfect car.

[@Life411]

Agreed. Too bad they didn't offer it with one...I think it came down to cost since this was such a low-volume car. Thanks for watching and please tell your friends! 😉

[@wallyr.7854]

@@Life411 That’s a good point, it’s too bad though because in my opinion it is an absolutely beautiful car and the total carbon-fiber build is an amazing value for a car in that price range. You have good videos/reviews, I will definitely pass along the info to my friends, keep up the good work 👍🏼

[@lucianolucidi8624]

The Emira is way more confy than the other two. Also very different in weight. So it depends on your life style.

[@Life411]

That is a big factor for sure. Although I found the 4C very comfortable once you're in it,

[@JeanRedele62]

between two litigants, the third one benefits: Long live the Alpine A110. It would be interesting to try the A110, maybe the R version. In my opinion the best: weight, driving pleasure, engineering, materials, philosophy, technical details (such as the double wishbone suspension) and a thousand other things. Greetings

[@Life411]

The Alpine A110 is a car I'm unfamiliar with (just Googled it!), but would love to give it a drive. Thanks for watching!

[@JeanRedele62]

@@Life411 Think about it: Gordon Murray is a true hypercar guru. The legendary McLaren F1, long the record holder for speed among production cars, bears his signature. And so does the Brabham Formula 1 with which Piquet won the world championship in 1981. Regarding the Alpine A110, Murray gave a perhaps surprising opinion: "It is the best car I have ever driven in terms of ride and handling." And so he bought it and made it the benchmark for developing his new $2.6 million T.50 supercar. The South African designer has defined today's sports cars as generally too complicated, large and above all heavy. However, he was struck by a sports car, the Alpine A110. So impressed that, after buying it, he had his mechanics dismantle it piece by piece to analyze it. Although it is neither a supercar nor a hypercar, Murray was surprised by the set-up of the small French coupé, capable of offering an excellent compromise between comfort and dynamic behavior, without using electronically controlled shock absorbers. For this reason, the Alpine suspensions were used by the engineers at Gordon Murray Automotive, precisely as a benchmark for the future T.50, a bit like the Honda NSX was for the McLaren F1 in its time.

[@Life411]

Very interesting, thanks for sharing. I'll definitely pay attention if I ever run across one now.

[@jeanlambrechts2102]

La 4C a comme l'A110 une double triangulation me semble-t-il. J'ai essayé les deux voitures, elles sont toutes les deux désirables et sans doute des futurs collectors même si comme beaucoup j'ai fini par choisir un Boxster ;-) Le tout carbone est un aspect qui rend la 4C très spéciale.

[@JeanRedele62]

@@jeanlambrechts2102 Les suspensions adoptées sont des triangles superposés pour le train avant, tandis qu'une évolution de la jambe de force McPherson est montée à l'arrière, donc un peu différente. Cela reste une voiture spéciale, sans aucun doute. De l’A110 je faisais essentiellement référence au R qui est abondant en carbone.Des voitures très spéciales en tout cas

[@jamescaldwell5]

Biggest mistake with the 4C is the lack of a manual transmission. BTW, at a slender 6’4” height, I can’t fit in an Elise, but I can fit in the 4C and Emira.

[@Life411]

Yeah, lack of a manual in the 4C is a headscratcher. So I'm a slender 6'2.5" and fit about equally well in both the 4C and Elise. Body proportions can vary...mind me asking what doesn't fit in the Elise? Main thing for me is the opening is quite a bit smaller requiring me to essentially fold myself in half as I duck in. Thanks for watching!

[@domdigirolamo8771]

Ha, that $50k vs $100k is actually very interesting. Because when you say it out loud... rationally you'd say no. The Lotus (or my new car for instance) isn't 2x better than the 4C, they offer very similar experiences. HOWEVER, we both jumped ship to new cars. So practice vs. theory I suppose :).

[@Life411]

The heart wants what the heart wants, right? 🏁🏎😉

[@365gtb4]

Buying a nice 4C for $50,000 is possible now, but it won’t be for long

[@ericmichel3857]

Very cool cars, but for the money I would go with a Cayman or a C8

[@Life411]

Thanks for watching. Yup, all depends on what your priorities are. It's cool to see people's reactions when they see something exotic and rare, but the Cayman and C8 are both on my list of cars I'd like to own one day.

[@THECDNRX8]

If the 4c was a manual high revving n/a it wouldn’t be able to make enough of them. They really missed the boat, what a shame! Lotus hit the nail with the Emira!

[@365gtb4]

The 4C redlines at 6500. The Emira redlines at 7000. I see the 500 RPM difference as negligible

[@Checkyoursix77]

To bad the lotus locks like a generic sport car from a computer game. The Alfa may not be the best car but it’s beautiful!

[@andygtv]

The Lotus has no identity

[@christianr772]

Love the Alfas as well! Gorgeous good looks in my opinion!

[@subnegro4946]

You must be smoking crack 😂😂😂

[@motorfab7014]

Alfa 4C 😍

[@torekongsparten]

Very SHORT : 4C 1/2 TONN lighter, a LOT less consuption 🥇🇮🇹❤️ TK🇳🇴

[@Life411]

Thanks for watching

[@verynormalman]

The European Coupe 4C is significantly lighter than the American spec car. So your initial comparison was way out for me. And the dual clutch is the future, and if your not a dinosaur, it's thrilling to drive, as you can whip through the gears very quickly much like a race car. The dual clutch on the 4C, works REALLY well.

[@Life411]

From all us dinosaurs...ROAR! Thanks for watching...now back fighting that T-Rex 🦖

[@verynormalman]

@@Life411 I really wasn't being insulting. I apologise if you feel that. My point is that everyone seems against automated manual gearboxes, and they are really pretty good nowadays. Now the latest research indicates that Dinosaurs didn't "ROAR", but you no what scientists are like. In the UK, ROAR used to be printed on most event tickets, as it translates to "right of admission refused". Sorry for the dull bits of information!

[@Life411]

No worries. I like the random bits of information just like I like a stick shift. ;) In all seriousness, I agree DCTs are pretty amazing, but I prefer a stick shift for personal preference. It's not all about performance, but about enjoying the drive and I love having that direct control. When I shift with a stick, I know I've shifted and into what gear. I can't tell you how many times I've flubbed a paddle shift, or accidentally hit a paddle during an aggressive autocross turn, or been unable to blip the paddle because the steering wheel is rotated for a tight turn, etc. The stick is always where it's supposed to be. If you've got a 4C, it's an amazing car and I hope you enjoy the heck out of it!

[@verynormalman]

@@Life411 Thanks for sending me a message. Yes. I own a 2015 4C from new. It's had a few expensive services, but on the whole it's been great. I have other "stick" vehicles in my collection (have you ever driven a 2CV?). And I have some old motorcycles, that are very analogue. Currently buying an Alpine as an everyday car. Kind of same idea but a very different solution? Keep up the good work. Thanks again.

[@Life411]

@@verynormalman sounds like a nice collection of motor vehicles. No, I've never driven a 2 CV. So with all those choices, what do you drive Or ride the most?

[@trevorlindsey580]

Sold your 4C to buy an Emira? Huge mistake. You need both!

[@Life411]

You mean all three, right, because I did hang onto my Elise. But two sports cars is my wife's limit. :)

[@trevorlindsey580]

@@Life411 No limits I always say!

[@garymurraya]

not sure you can compare a car that is 50% heavier (how is is 24% heavier????). 3100 - 2000 / 2000 = xxxx X 100 does not equal 24 ..ie emira to elise. Also a car, that has a good space behind the seats and one with a V6 engine up to 400 and 500 HP to a 2.x litre .... NO, sorry, cant see any comparison being realistic, you may as well compare an aston martin DB11 to the Emira, also in terms of price, they are not comparable.

[@Life411]

Thanks for watching. The %s were Elise-to-4C and then 4C-to-Emira.

[@benhaley9811]

An Italian bubble car or the car that makes ferraris look like low resolution children's drawings.. gonna take the emira

[@christianr772]

Italian “Bubble car” all day! Side profile of the Emira is whack. Wrong proportions and looks like a CUCARACHA !!! Tell me I’m wrong once you see it! Maybe it’ll fly in Mexico but not in my driveway!

[@andygtv]

@@benhaley9811 Interesting 🤨

[@alessandrob.1354]

You must be blind

[@paulhoffmann2200]

Uh, no. Time will be kind to the 4C.

[@xxxmarekxxx505]

SUPER Lotus Emira!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!