Scholar Sage Podcast - S2 E2 - Filling the Dan Tian Bucket

Episode 2 of the second season of the Scholar Sage Podcast. Damo Mitchell is discussing the nature of Dan Tian filling in Qi Gong practice...
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[@thegoldenvoid]

Newbies with the karma to stumble right into Damo cannot imagine how much time (&$$$) long term practitioners of other schools can waste without getting a fraction of what he shares publically/online.

[@freedman6590]

for most who started with mantak or other masters this is a revelation turning everything from head to feet

[@sinabehbahani7746]

Absolutely 💯

[@PrudentStudent666]

To each his own. It all depends on what you are looking for.

[@duluoz8198]

It's called marketing

[@rhondaurb]

@@duluoz8198 it may be marketing but doesn't make it any less valuable

[@fgh6526]

This is exactly what I felt was missing in the Qigong "online community": THEORY... So many people are demonstrating various movements without explaining the purpose and the intention behind them. I've been binge watching your stuff all afternoon, very helpful info and nice humor as well! Thanks.

[@valesheart]

They do not teach, because they do not know.

[@roberthoffman9232]

very good MASTER DM actually locating the DAN TIAN 2 inches below naval but follow a straight line horizontal to the back and when you get to the HUYIN STOP VERTICALLY ABOVE...that is an awesome place to begin to cultivate chi--

[@LotusNeiGong]

That’s the one :)

[@doubleBbooks]

Really glad to see Scholar Sage return for a second series of podcasts - I really appreciate the level of theory that you share and your generosity in sharing it

[@someguy1887]

This is my favorite episode of the podcast. In case anyone is interested Damo covers this topic in chapter 11 of his latest book. Page 420 through 435 are very helpful, and it is great to combine these with this episode.

[@Mike-fr3ov]

Hello Title of the book?

[@fabienpaillusson7390]

I am a bit confused. In the passage you mention from p420 onwards, it seems to be a super advanced level only attained by a few people. Page 283 which is also about dan tian there is talk of consolidation but no discussion of forming the dan tian. He even advises against trying to fill the dan tian. But in this video, building the "outer walls" of the dan tian seems like the 1st thing to do for effective qi gong and nei gong practice.

[@fabienpaillusson7390]

@@7seednew I am afraid not. Information is scattered in his different books and I haven't had the time to read the others. Only hint from some recent videos, which appears comparable to a claim made by Mizner, is the notion of building a "qi gong body" before being able to do any actual qi gong.

[@ashokkumars9856]

Book name please Where can I read it

[@lukewhite2]

Wonderfully articulated Damo. It is really great to be able to have access to this depth of information. Thank you.

[@BWAcolyte]

It's quite an amazing time to be someone interested in this topic. So much information freely available online and in books on hundreds of different systems. Just visited the Chen Bing website today and they had all their nei gong components of practice summarized in a PDF. Probably would've only been passed down to disciples a decade ago.

[@alFeras_tell]

Thank you Rebbie, do they share authentic teaching or just for makertingn?

[@alkenstein]

Big up! Very happy for season 2, brilliant info and a timely addition to the neigong course, Thanks 🙏😷🙂

[@stickitothemaneosis]

This is funny, this vid came into my feed automatically and I came to make a comment about how invaluable this video is only to see I had made a comment here exactly one year ago today. Coincidence? I think not. Thank you Damo. Another funny thing is that I bought your book several years ago, before you were on YT but these videos I have to say are the BEST please never stop. With gratitute.

[@ezbizzy7895]

I expressed myself earlier in the toilet but everything you talked about is golden. Love your books but listening to you talk brings even more understanding to this complex challenge. TY

[@stickitothemaneosis]

Thank you for the video and sharing the knowledge. There's many of us looking for development but no teachers/materials available locally. Glad I found your channel, going to go back now and watch every single video

[@vitalarts-studio]

More great, clear, and understandable information from Sifu Damo, that can be included in a real practice regardless of 'style' or 'school'. Highly recommended.

[@KristiyanJordanov]

Thank you! This was a great explanation. Respect! I was able to feel my dantien and the syncing of the chi only by listening to you ( I am practicing tai chi, bagua and neigong for 2.5 years)

[@yjmsrv]

It's a gun barrel actually- in the 007 intro- looking down the barrel of a gun with the rifle marks- that you referred to as a camera. It does look a lot like a camera lens! This is really a great podcast- very, very much appreciate you digging into the theory deeper- makes what I study with Adam Mizner much more understandable! I agree with you completely that without this foundation in theory most of Nei Gong is not going to be achieved... so thank you! It's the reason I signed up for your course! Again- you're making Adam's course make sense ;-)

[@mary-anncarleton7578]

Hahaha this happened this week, weird sensations. Always something new to learn and improve. Excellent content Damo.

[@jaylou1486]

Thank You for the enlightenment. Now I know I have wasted so much time living in my imagination. I appreciate your honesty and the precious informations.

[@davidsaintjohn4248]

This is super helpful. Thank you for sharing your understanding!

[@BaguaInternalArts]

Thank you for the detailed explanation and making these arts more accessible.

[@mystictheninja1486]

Thanks for, so clearly, demystifying this topic. It's so refreshing hearing someone talk who actually knows what he's talking about. I think this stuff is so important nowadays where people are becoming so disconnected with themselves and everyone is worshiping machines instead, to find and cultivate the powers inherent in human beings. We're capable of so much but that power seems always to be thrown away, "the machine will do it for me" while I remain impotent. I am a beginner, I did tai chi for 5 years and they taught me nothing essentially except for some dances and that really turned me off from the whole thing, but this process of cultivating the LDT is very interesting and I'd love to do it, if I could find an effective method of practice. I will look into your newest book, as some comments suggest, but if you felt like directing me to a vid showing the process/exercise to help me along, I would definitely practice it.

[@SamadhiTherapy]

They have set up an online school; it is good to start at the beginning of their system or which ever school you follow because it will systematically / correctly take you through the process in a way that is good for long term / real progress. Good luck!

[@HealthPeregrine]

Great pod Cast thanks for you insights they are very helpful. 👍

[@JenP2776]

I have never studied Qigong or Nei(?) gong but I have recently been syncronistically guided to study how to heal the root chakra and build Qi in the lower dantien (I realize that chakras and dantien are entirely different schools of thought but I feel as though both exist but on different plains of existence/energetic fields). My search started with looking to heal the root chakra in order to heal childhood wounds and then evolved to building Qi in the lower dantien for manifesting. I’m an energetic healer and it seems this is imperative for what I do. Interestingly, I have, on occasion, experienced involuntary rhythmic flexing (like pulsating crunches) of my lower abdominals as well as involuntary smacking of that area with my hand. 🤷🏻‍♀️ I assume this was to build up that “vessel”. I have some favorite breathing techniques but what breathing techniques would you suggest for replenishing Qi in the lower dantien?

[@SifuAminJani]

Nice video brother, love your channel!

[@kevinchapman9235]

Great podcast. Following attending one of your seminars on dan tian gong and other work with Sophie I am on the road trying to build the dan tian and the podcast is a nice consolidation of the teachings from both of you. I really enjoy the theory lecture part of your seminars - the hard part is trying to understand my notes.

[@thegoldenvoid]

Haha! I scribble fast then a day later can't read about half of my writing :-D

[@janm1666]

I have to also compliment you for this presentation. This is so valuable. I thank you for your generous attention to detail. Its very inspiring and selflessly presented which makes it very attractive to watch. blissful thanks to you sir. Absolutely delighted with your rambling.

[@Kraanvogel96]

Thank you very much. It’s very use full en clear. Now momentarily doing.

[@AikidoAliveUK]

Thank you. So much great information.

[@kenbaggs2075]

Thank you for this clear lecture. IN order to discover if you are breathing into the correct 3-D area of the LDT should you be feeling "strings" in the body?

[@iankorish4511]

Wow Really did feel that warm point. Thank you

[@ArminHirmer]

simply brilliant

[@KPm397]

I experienced a spontaneous gripping in the exact location you’re describing but because I’m a practitioner of Samkhya philosophy and yoga, I associated it with the mula bandha. Listening to you talk, I believe it was the dan tien.

[@giubster1974]

Nice podcast damo really interesting thank you

[@blizzardcoaches9841]

Super super helpful. Just the "guard the mind" idea, more yin than yang, not "doing", helped me instantly. Then "letting" the dantian do its thing just happens. Have spent lots of time building the bucket, but that's the next phase for me. Try to fill the bucket and see how it goes.... thanks a lot. Cheers.

[@TheSearchForNobody]

Exactly what I was looking for, thank you so much.

[@LotusNeiGong]

Glad you found it helpful :)

[@bcog9753]

Great explanation. Thank you.

[@ultraclaveshermetium5709]

Thanks for this great video!

[@mrshaolin3407]

You are a good teacher and a good guy

[@irenecarlos6039]

Thank you!

[@off-worldentrepreneuring5951]

Symmetric Field Theory is useful to be understood and utilized to create a Dan Tian or Field of Elixer as a foundation of Qigong. It's generally not something a lot of people now days are able to conceptualize, because we're based in materialism. You don't necessarily need to believe in spiritual energy, new age, crystal ball rubbing etc. But Field Theory is almost an absolute must, maybe, at least in my view at this stage, to develop a Dan Tian. The issue is, it's not a science that is currently in accepted existence yet, not on this Earth. But you can still conceive of it and understand it. Damo here, is one of very few who can offer this. When enough people do, this is already a very good analogue to access much needed breakthroughs that materialist science accepts is probably possible, but has no analogue to conceive of.

[@irinabuicescu]

thank you among. I totally resonate with what you sharing. I"ve done many many years of meditation in presence of a liberated soul, not from this tradition but yet the principals are the same when one is internally centered. I started couple of years qigong practice and suddenly was drawn to neigong, I understand why. cannot gather qi from outside , there is only the inside in the process. Great to her your explanations and free demo.. Much appreciated.

[@LotusNeiGong]

Thanks for the feedback and good luck in your practice :)

[@geoffholloway3744]

Very interesting video mate

[@LightsOnTrees]

What's the scroll behind you? The one in red ink with red borders? Great Podcast again!

[@lior2988ify]

Wonderful explanation. Thank you very much! I have a question about this subject- you said that when when you feel some sort of pintching from the inside of the lower abdomen or something like that, that means that the vessel is there. Is there any kind of special consideration for pregnant women? Does the pregnancy effect the location, quality and other paremeters of this vessel?

[@privacyghost]

So true dantian further back. Good job fellow cultivator

[@dennisbledea2082]

Thank you!!

[@ioxka]

Thank you so very much

[@souljah37]

Great explanation.

[@markallanneuhaus]

oh my.... damo=qinius... you are brilliant!!!! thank you :) :) :) is that wall hanging behind you form master wu?

[@hoshinotanecedryctensaibat9711]

@Damo Mitchell My dad would have killed for info like this 50 years ago. Thank you for sharing.

[@kcorsnosbig]

Question Do the muscle movement afew times then It is more of letting mind float to the point and not really focus but a realization of the spot..? Whaile concentrating another thing or some thing else...? Still searching... Thank You for your help...

[@djcudworth2355]

41:40 the James Bond image is the interior view of the rifling or spiral cuts of the gun barrel.

[@aliakhtar6079]

Alchemical gold 🙏🏼

[@geoffholloway3744]

Looking well buddy

[@michaelpatterson7062]

Does Damo have a video focused on building the Dantian bucket?

[@davidlodge8123]

Great video, but if you bring it back to the beginning... if one wanted to improve simply improve the kidneys through qigong you would need to go through this whole process of building the yin qualities of the dantian for up to a year in some cases? I wonder if there is a more direct elemental route to building the yin of the dantian, perhaps focusing on a sensation of coolness and gravity there for example. Perhaps feeling the weight of you legs getting heavier and having and the coolness from the earth entering the dantian increasing it's gravity. The kidneys in TCM relate to water, which is cold. You mentioned somewhere else that the kidneys generate a magnetic field... I wonder then if there is a direct route to build this yin by working more with the elemental qualities. I have dabbled in western hermeticism and have experienced the power of elemental meditations, so I do wonder if they could be linked. I remember I had a urinary tract infection once, couldn't move it for weeks even with pills and stuff. Then I had the intuition to feel the sensation of cold running water around the dantian region, and within minutes it was gone permanently.

[@spiritualphysics]

👊🏾😎👍🏼 Thanks for sharing

[@snowissj]

After the field is made, could the hands doing the movements be considered gardening? 😁

[@michaelkhalsa]

Thank you for sharing. It may help some to have another perspective from kriya, where the foundational practice is balancing the mind-energy with body. Then one simply opens a space. The mind is automatically placed and guarded, because it is no longer in the form of outer thought, rather as that space within the body. There is no conflict, or pushing together of yang and yin qualities, unless we think there is, rather like nectar flame consciously consciously, the balance is an expression, and we change the expression or a kind of temperature made out of the qualities of creation. Eventually, the space can open to any space or form in the universe that we become aware of, or great mother brings awareness to The subtle, cosmic breath is like a stream, or like the current of sound flowing, yet everywhere. The outer breath stops at times, sometimes for extended periods. You can even hold the breath for a compression for like an hour, as part of bringing this continuum (alchemy), and when you exhale, there is no need to take breath, i.e., the body feels nourished from the cosmic breath. The location of the tantien can be replicated anywhere, or the whole body, or a mandala, or in another realm, like a womb.

[@maximalexander7251]

Thank you

[@andyanderson4145]

How would you train so one with Arthritis because in the pass I have see teacher claim that there chi kung system is great for it.The little thing on your online course has very good explanation.which I like.It would be nice if you could do one for people with Arthritis.Mine is mild in my neck..

[@AngelMerus]

This would explain why I had so much success when my mind was clear instead of visualizing the dantien just simply set intention on it then empty the mind and allow it to sink as you said I did the with the heart chakra before and I met mother earth then fell from the heart chakra to the lower ones and I saw the whole universe was inside of me. Even releasing qi It would be hit or miss now I realize all I have to do is place the mind on something then kind let go go blank empty the mind I see now that the thoughts the monkey mind gets in the way.

[@davidryan7386]

nice summation: "place the mind on something then kind (of) let go".

[@AngelMerus]

@@davidryan7386 it's like pouring water you aim it then let it fall out and flow.

[@patrickfordell-talousajatt4518]

Thx 😀

[@alFeras_tell]

Have you anyone seen an amazing description like this before? I am looking on how to build the bucket- where I can find it

[@LotusNeiGong]

I cover it in the academy in detail.

[@fgh6526]

What do you think about semen retention for strengthening qi? Is it important, how much? What about diet? I have so many questions!

[@thejlstellashow]

My anatomy is a bit different then everyone else. I’ve had a lot of surgery in my abdomen and I’ve had some organs removed. Do I need to adjust my focus area? Or would my energy still be in the same place. Hopefully not a silly question. 😅

[@roberthoffman9232]

good morning MASTER DM ! since you have actually located the dan tian credibly kudos ! SO i sat in a chair for 40 years getting multiple degrees in a cerebral learned profession most of the time in fight-flight-freeze then becoming expert at binge eating and obesity and managed to tear my abdominal fascia by bending over and then seriously strain my SI joint by a fat man doing hot yoga and then cultivated a GI issue which Docs claimed required pharma and frequent tests so GENERALLY I FELT DEAD FROM THE HEAD DOWN AND MY MIND WAS MOSTLY HOT AS HELL FIRE --ESPECIALLY MY FAT MIDDLE WAS DEAD --.. Well fast forward a generation ( 30 years ) I learned how to warrior fast drop some adipose tissue and eat insoluble fiber and living food and seeds and cultivate the gut biome and live life better- sorry for the long winded intro My practice is improving and what a tremendous breakthrough when you LOCATED MY DAN TIAN and cast aside 30 years of HOKUM nonsense of "just bring the chi in from the cosmos with a happy ending from guan yin " NOW I AM STUDYING THIS LECTURE WITH GRANULARITY and I shall attempt to LOCATE DAN TIAN PROPERLY AS YOU HAVE TAUGHT - BUILD THE CONTAINER- ALLOW THE MIND-YI TO SINK- I believe if I can " just " do those things it will be HUGE...I have not OBSERVED THE PHENOMENA and I believe my practice will be worthwhile "just " LOCATING DAN TIAN- BUILDING THE CONTAINER -FILLING THE CONTAINER- ALLOWING THE YI TO SINK-GUARDING THE YI IN DAN TIAN- SUBMERGING YANG IN YIN- " just " this practice makes me want to "jump and shout " maybe I will feel the phenomena in the future ...then I shall seek to cultivate greater martial power and spiritual practices HOWEVER being a proper student is it's own reward- I make this statement because I am so happy- BUT I am so happy because my body is spilling over with energy therefore there is a peaceful-joyous unity of body-mind-spirit- I thank you for your generous positive re-inforcement on my comments. I thank you for being a scholar-sage-warrior who is bringing true practices intentionally hidden and obfuscated by alchemical allegory, desire to only pass to chinese lineage and then further contorted by poor mandarin to english by design and accident-; and, compounded by fraud , greed, ignorance and the basic human condition. "Masters" are as numerous as hairs on the ox. But TRUE MASTERS are as rare as horns on a unicorn. Stay healthy in your body, mind, and spirit MASTER DM. Thank you.

[@urielpolak9949]

Can we build the dantien in seated practise??

[@m0rgentraum]

Hey Damo! I have a question: In Mo Pai Nei Gong, the first stage of development already assumes, that the Dan Tian is present. In other words, the bucket does not have to be build first, and Qi can be accumulated right away. If I understood you correctly, you said, that before Qi can be accumulated, the bucket needs to be build first. How can these opposing approaches be reconciled with each other? Thanks for the awesome content!

[@user-nw6nx1cq6k]

DanTien building is a foundation work. They simply assume that you're past foundation

[@m0rgentraum]

@@user-nw6nx1cq6k Okay. I see. I am a bit surprised by this, since the Western students of Mo Pai didn't have a solid foundation in Qi Gong when they started their training, at least from my understanding.

[@SI-ln6tc]

I wonder about that. A similar but different system.

[@abrahamlife]

Damo, in zen they make use of this fake dt to create energy called joriki to power concentration. I have done this training and the intense focus there can lead to explosions of energy. I was in so much pain from intensive sitting and then there was a burst of energy and all my pain in my body disappeared. Can you explain that from your learning?

[@SnakeAndTurtleQigong]

🙏

[@muhsindogru7852]

Wwoooow, lately ı am feeling my dan tien bucket in my lower abdominal, ı am doing neygong about one year, now ı have something in my low stomach ..so ı am at level making dan tien bucket and increase density of it.. thanks for your speech, you are really better then trump.. you have knowledge and sense of humor, namaste..

[@mortkebab2849]

Is the Dan Tian a construct or a pre-existing thing?

[@rhondaurb]

I can't even get past step 1. How do I put my attention on the area behind my abdomen 😫

[@abrahamlife]

What area of body helps liver like the other organs you mentioned.

[@thedreamingdaoenergymedici7618]

"I should sit up and look like a spiritual person"... lol. That made me laugh out loud! Great explanations and l Iove the humour injections :D

[@AngelMerus]

I started to do this and fill the true dantien and my back and belly got really hot I even felt electric shock on my finger when I placed my hand on the false dantien below the navel holy shit this shit is really real I will progress way faster than ever.

[@user-nw6nx1cq6k]

Baguazhang doesn't open doors to other dimensions?? I need to rethink my life goals...

[@christofferalexanderhaland2967]

Please help! 2 data ago I finally managed to do the cooking and the container with bubbling etc.. after some time, liquid energy started going up the spine but it stopped at the kidneys and suddenly ut was like 2 doors opened at the backside of kidneys and all the energy just ran down and away :/ anyone had the same experience?

[@LotusNeiGong]

Just means you need your kidneys consolidated a bit, get to a Chinese medical practitioner.

[@HIMfan0805]

lmfao at that mizner comment, sounds about right

[@JugglingForCake]

Hmm I missed that, what did he say?

[@HIMfan0805]

@@JugglingForCake lol he said people get weird about mizner and thinks it's cause mizner is better at taichi than them and they are jealous lol

[@theprmm]

👏👍🙏

[@WoWMalazar]

34:24 rip headphone users

[@dragonman1346]

Bro wtf as you were describing it I found it in me

[@AikidoAliveUK]

Adam Misner is brilliant in what he does but does it serve his ego or not? Is it just jealousy or is there some truth to some of the criticism? If we are into a spiritual perspective then Ego becomes quite an important subject.

[@gravy_brain]

Thoughts on Robert Peng author of "Qigong Master"/"The Master Key"? I took a 14 day workshop with him 5 years ago and twice I felt like he rearranged every atom and molecule in my body, and I'm not sure he was even focusing on me in particular, as there were 56 people in the group, Two of my most powerful experiences, next to DMT, ayahuasca and a tantric sexual session.

[@beyondthegong]

I have had treatments from him on several visits to NYC. He is, indeed, the real deal.

[@mariareanotorres]

Hey I get it lol you are right 😅 but 1/2 ❤ 🎉❤ ohhhhhhhhh🏄💃🏻👻🤣😂🤣😂Its as simple as 1.2.3.....and ABC......LOL ur so funny , ur awesome 💯 You make me smile and laugh at least😂😜🙏🏼✌🏼❤️😘🌹

[@theprmm]

Is 36 and 24 hands rolling on navel can help making bucket?

[@geoffholloway3744]

I have pm u on fb

[@aardvarkhendricks6555]

This guy is calling himself "Damo"? No megalomania here. Incredible.

[@LotusNeiGong]

Short for 'Damien'. Assumptions are often incorrect ;)

[@aardvarkhendricks6555]

@@LotusNeiGong I'm not buying it. Why not just call him damien? And you know very well what Damo means in certain Asian languages.

[@LotusNeiGong]

​@@aardvarkhendricks6555 oh well. I guess you will just have to remain indignant. Nothing to be done there :)

[@cal.5081]

​@@LotusNeiGong😂 haha, this cracked me up. My friend here doesn't believe in nicknames. Thanks for your videos Damo Sifu 🙏. I've heard it said before by teachers in Adam Sifu's School that in Taiji the whole body is the Dan Tien.

[@oleg4abr]

Thank you!

[@roysters5]

Thank you!