Loud Fuel Pump!!! Fixed? ('69 Turbo 360 Valiant)

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Setup:
1969 Plymouth Valiant
Stock 360 Magnum
Proform intake manifold (notched divider)
TF727 transmission
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FiTech EFI 1200
Oasis 340lph fuel pump
Narrowed 9.25 Chrysler rear end, suregrip, 3.55 gears, rear disc brakes
Mopar superstock leaf springs
USCT Leaf Spring relocate kit and sub-frame connectors
rear tires 275/60/15 Nitto 555r, front Mastercraft 205/65/15
15x6 3.75” offset front, 15x8 4” offset rear steel Mopar replica wheels
1974 Mopar a-body front disc brakes
22 inch 3 core radiator
16" eBay electric fan
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[@cawcislo]

Not fixed, but a bit better. That sound just takes away from the wonderful exhaust note of your project. Let’s get this boy an in tank pump. I’ll start the donation fund. Give me your PayPal and I’ll send you $10 to start the collection to get this taken care of.

[@TheGasTap]

That’s awesome of you! My PayPal link is in the video description. Thank you.

[@cawcislo]

@@TheGasTap Done. Good luck.

[@TheGasTap]

Thank you!!!

[@ninjapumkin]

While reading the comments all I thought was, he has no interior, there is no carpet, there is no insulation pad between interior and trunk......etc. Chill people it’s an ongoing project

[@TheGasTap]

Thank you! 🙏

[@clarkclifford2338]

No excuses! Lol.

[@NecromancerGarage]

It's also an external pump. I'd just chuck one in the tank.

[@ninjapumkin]

@@NecromancerGarage watch my videos. I have mine under the car and you can barely hear it

[@DaPenceman]

Valiant effort 👍

[@cobadogeats]

You have convinced me to run an in tank fuel pump!

[@rudyhollis6540]

I had a Holley blue pump years ago that was sooooo loud! My friend remounted it on a piece of rubber between the chassis and the pump and it helped a ton!!!

[@Effay513]

I’m 98% positive that everyone talking about the fuel pump drives a Prius.

[@TheGasTap]

🤣🤣🤣

[@aaronbridges8098]

@@TheGasTap honestly, the people with these suggestions are idiots. the sound deadening will help cabin noise but seriously.... its a bosch 044...... its designed to be submersed in fuel which will make it almost un noticeable and also it cools it. I'm not going to lie, its probably going to overheat and fail prematurely. the good news is it will probably last a year before that happens. manufacturers use these style pumps all the time but always submersed. ether way killer content and keep up the good work, i can't wait to hear it rip under full load at full throttle!

[@Zelaznogsiul-63]

Prius has a fuel pump also, it is a hybrid.

[@Zelaznogsiul-63]

May be an in tank fuel pump or insulate the existing fuel pump. It is really loud. Eager to see the progress.

[@aaronbridges8098]

@@Zelaznogsiul-63 i think you should watch the video before you make any more coments😂😆 And prius probably has a bosch 44 😂😆 but its still a great way to insult someone by saying they drive one!

[@Nelsons-Garage]

Put the pump in the tank, then you wont hear it at all...

[@318willrun]

As long as you are hanging around those back black steelies w/Nitto's, I'm fine watching you chase a noisy pump :)

[@TheGasTap]

Thank you!!!

[@SteveLowe65]

Don't stress bro, it's YOUR car - you do you :)

[@TheGasTap]

Thank you!!!

[@danielbernier9115]

Lol thank you, I can continue to watch .

[@MikeJBlues]

That would drive me nuts . holley , send him a good pump.

[@TheGasTap]

I wish!

[@sharkrivermachine]

It's a RACE CAR, race cars make noise. A VALIANT effort 🤣🤣🤣

[@TheGasTap]

Don’t tell the insurance company it’s a race car!! 😳

[@bcbloc02]

@@TheGasTap I thought it was for hauling groceries?

[@69VFVAL]

My mate has the exact set up in his demon (70's), had external pump mounted was noisey and he couldn't handle the noise. So he managed to get a factory looking fuel tank with an in tank fuel pump to specs suited to the magnum motor EFI. problem solved. Noise 98 percent gone.

[@lonniewilson7]

You scared me for a minute I was wishing I would’ve made one but I figured you guys knew after watching the video I’m just glad it’s fixed

[@mikesr3407]

It is funny though everyone who has taken a ride in my dart first thing ( what's that noise ) after setting them back in the seat a little and they hear the exhaust ramp up from the 340 they quiet down ! 😋

[@snake_eyes_garage]

That intro was great. :-) And yes that was a Valiant effort. It's obvious that these pumps are loud and that's the way it is. I truly appreciate the time you took to work through all the angles on this one.

[@TheGasTap]

Thank you

[@gertv6777]

Wrapping the pump in sound deadner will be the best you can do

[@79tazman]

it will overheat if you do that

[@theephemeralglade1935]

"My fuel pump makes A LOT of noise!" "What are you running, like a Holley or something?" "Baldor."

[@BigfootsnMopars]

Valiant Effort! I went with a Tanks Inc in-tank fuel pump set up with return line hoping to help with noise and cooling of pump. Going to cut an access door in my trunk.

[@davidmo2826]

Those look like really nice tanks.

[@BigfootsnMopars]

@@davidmo2826 yep it’s a jewel 💎. Powder coated, baffled. I have their stock b body tank in my Satellite and it’s WAY nicer.

[@davesaylor5135]

I wouldn't worry about it . I'd wait till I got the interior done and then go from there. Nice valiant

[@440phoenix]

Dyna mat, and interior would hush that pump a good deal. Either way that car is bad ass.

[@mikek771]

I had an in tank Walbro in my c10. Terrible noise. More than yours. I switched to a Quantum brand fuel pump. Virtual no noise. Quiet like a new vehicle.

[@raymondpauze8801]

I've mounted them with a transport truck mudflap between the pump and frame. Good luck!!

[@rudyhollis6540]

That's what my buddy did to tone down a holley blue pump I had on my car, I suggested the same thing in my post-!!

[@robertyates6413]

I really like that car put some stock wheel covers on her just for grins.

[@Mega007007007007]

Fine test ! same noicy problem but think is the pumps working noice

[@MrOilcountry]

Like the Car, Like the Channel. Pump is Fine. Keep the Vids roll'in.

[@TheGasTap]

Thank you

[@lonniewilson7]

Sounds like bearing parts going into the sanitation truck

[@shanedingz]

Electric pump, not submerged in fuel. It’s going to make more noise than people are used to hearing. Isolating the mounting was a good plan. Having an interior in there would also help. Keep it up! I’m addicted to this project!

[@zachwillet4089]

I personally wouldn’t worry about the noise. It’s a dirty old mopar it gives it character

[@TheGasTap]

💪🏼

[@turbotate8663]

my dad has a 66 valiant i love the car

[@HorsepowerHouse]

I tried three different pumps that same style (Edelbrock, Holley) and all of them were loud. I had it mounted correctly, low to the fuel tank, rubber grommets, etc etc. Was still too loud for my liking. The noise is really in the exit hose coming OUT of the pump. I could feel it vibrating. So I installed some tubing insulator (like for home water pipes) and it didn't help much at all. So I went a different route and installed a Carter fuel pump. HUGE improvement. Get rid of that fuel pump and go with a Carter. Done.

[@TheGasTap]

I have an in tank 470lpm now.

[@southerncomfort655]

It's a project car it takes time. It will be much better once you get the cage in and can put sound dampener/under coating in it Also an insulated fire wall between the back seat area and trunk will kill ALOT of your noise. You'll get there

[@yamhammer]

sounds 100 times better

[@modeverything1]

Well I know what do do when I install mine now! 😆

[@johntaylor1947]

I have the same pump on my rig and it is loud as hell and it is on rubber mounts. I wrapped the pump in ceramic insulation, and it cut the sound in half. I will go to a in tank pump in the long run.

[@TheGasTap]

I have the in tank pump now 💯 better.

[@soldtobediers]

''Them that matter don't mind & Them that mind don't matter.''

[@sub-com6488]

Great job on the build! I have the AEM380 mounted to the gas tank strap and insulated on my turbo Valiant. I can't stand the noise. Putting the back seat in is the only way to make it tolerable.

[@TheGasTap]

You have a cool car. Thanks for watching!

[@Feivel8374]

Thaaaaaaannnnnk Youuuuuuu👍👍👍👍😃😃😃😃

[@MitchJohnson-uu5uf]

For sound deadening I recommend Mat66 brand, just like Dyna Mat but way cheaper. About $50 for 36sqft from amazon. Also 36sqft is the perfect amount for a 72-93 Ram 2 door cab lol.

[@TheGasTap]

Nice!! 👍🏼

[@patirwin9268]

It definitely sounds better! Well done.

[@jameslewis1175]

Enjoyed the video man thanks

[@clarkclifford2338]

Isolate, dampen, insulate.

[@65lac]

I have the same issue. I was talking to a mechanic friend today and he was saying it could be the pump itself. I was reading that the HP In-Line fuel pumps from Holley are supposed to be much more quiet. Going to take my notes back to him tomorrow and see if it makes sense to try. My pre filter, fuel pump and post filter are all quite a distance away from each other. Saw a video from Holley where all three were pretty close together. going to try mounting them closer to see if that helps. Good video showing the different efforts!

[@artics1031]

Dang that fuel pump whine sound like an elevator gears!

[@garymatthys3605]

Ford cars of the mid '80s had frame mounted high pressure pumps for the cfi. They were insulated from the frame and also had a full length rubber sleeve covering the pump. Like the one you have, but it covered the entire pump. The mounting bracket was also the full length of the pump, kind of like a tube that the rubber sleeve and pump slide inside of. I have the Fitech in my car with the inline pump and it's pretty loud too. I have it mounted to it's own metal bracket with insulated fasteners. I get a lot of noise through the fuel lines. I made 3/8" steel supply and return. I'm going to try insulating the mounting clamps on the fuel lines also.

[@garymatthys3605]

Just one more thing. Make sure you have a vented gas cap or the pump won't be able to pull fuel from the tank. I think they make vented caps, but I drilled a small hole in mine.

[@pippastone6018]

Once you have put all the carpets back in as normal and when you have done all off this try mounting the pump on rubber and then put sound proving over it, hopefully this will work, what this pump reminds me off is when they prime a great big Pratt &wittiness radial engine, good luck 😉

[@1SECRETBILLY]

Internal pumps can be this loud. My BMW 749I sounds exactly like this. I've been driving it for 9 months and no fuel acceleration issues or hard starts. I've resigned to the fact it's just loud.I may buy one and keep just in case. I changed fuel filter and no difference.Cap on or off no difference,

[@brianknecht3216]

Why not ask Bosch technical service for advice?

[@TheGasTap]

good idea

[@1maydayme]

Excellent Idea!! Would not be the first NEW PART to be defective right out of the box... Maybe Bosch will do a warranty replacement..... Sure cant hurt to ask.. Love the Car !!!!

[@brianknecht3216]

@@1maydayme yes, that was my thought too, they’ll send a replacement.

[@bcbloc02]

@@brianknecht3216 I don't think it is a Bosch pump though, just a clone unless I understood wrong.

[@brianknecht3216]

@@bcbloc02 he said Bosch 044 replica, not sure what that means.

[@rono3045]

I'm sure you've already done this by now but yeah it's rubber isolators or custom 3/8 fuel line drill holes through it so your bolts go through it for the mounting brackets you'll get rid of probably 80% of that noise just with rubber hose

[@farfromdonemotors6796]

You could try building a sound deadening enclosure around the pump

[@nearpar]

The rubber isolators helped, one more thing you might try to find some dense insulation and wrap the pump all the way around as much as you can. Maybe even make a small metal box with some armor flex glued to the sides and use a couple of screws to mount it to the frame.

[@levikenyon1486]

Dynamat might help? The towels and rubber nuts helped But with having a bare interior its going to be loud. Great build good job. It's allot better.

[@amariodom4858]

i wish my fuel pump was that loud… let errbody know who’s the boss haha

[@Meightt]

My grand marquis fuel pump I just bought is lowkey loud just like this, it doesn’t have a trunk interior at all tho it’s empty in the trunk

[@MitchJohnson-uu5uf]

I was thinking the rubber grommets would of helped a lot more but defiantly did help, but ya once you get some sound deadening mat in there I'm sure it will make a lot more of a difference.

[@MM_in_Havasu]

That car is one heckuva sleeper! You will embarrass a lot of hot rod owners at the track with that.

[@Ridendrty]

Yes it is better👍 Wonder if a little bed liner spray on the bottom of the pan around the pump would deaden the sound a bit more. I was also thinking of wrapping some of the pump with exhaust tape.

[@TheGasTap]

Heat kills external pumps. I think wrapping it may contain the heat instead of letting it out. Just a thought.

[@davek9297]

Lower your Fuel Pump PWM/FCC setting. At 100 mine whines just like that. At 60 it’s much quieter. At 45 it’s a barely noticeable hum

[@moparnut6286]

Looks like and in tank pump is in the valiant's future but drive it and enjoy it and big deal if it makes noise! Atleast you'll now if it stops working!

[@ZPositive]

Pound Puppies!

[@toyotamuhfuh5037]

If I lined up next to you and heard that fuel pump, let’s just say I will probably just accept my fate then and there😂

[@jgosh81]

That gots to be better 🤔😄

[@tint661]

For years Mercedes Benz had external fuel pumps mounted behind the passenger wheel. I'm not sure how much fuel they pumped. The fuel pump and filter were mounted together. You may find the fuel pump and filter at the local salvage yard. They never made very much noise at all. You may even be able to mount it where your fuel pump is now. Dylan McCool has a site on here and he is working on a Dodge Challenger. He was able to buy a fuel tank and in tank fuel pump (with a return style system) basically a bolt in, and wire system. I would have to go back and try to see where he bought it from. He said they sell a 1/2 inch and a 5/16 inch pump. He is running a modern day hemi in the car. Those are some more options.

[@herbiederby3394]

A valiant effort is was.....🤙

[@Doosterify]

The alarm clock buzzing sound would drive me nuts. Unfortunately quiet electric fuel pumps capable of supplying enough fuel for high power are not cheap. My 440 has a carburetor and luckily I was able to find a mechanical pump that delivers 160 gph @ 16 psi and I run a simple check valve as a bypass regulator to get the pressure down to 7 psi at the carb. If I ever do upgrade to efi, I'm going with an in tank pump. Guess I'll be spending a lot if I do...LOL. Great channel!

[@stevehamilton9418]

Hey Alex I understand you’re a fellow Floridian,somewhere in the panhandle if I recall. I’m a MOPAR gearhead as well out of live oak n. Fl. Would like to chat with you sometime, regarding mopars of course, if you chat with any of your followers. If not, it’s all good. Good luck with the Val.

[@TheGasTap]

Awesome! Hit me up on email, Instagram or Facebook

[@garryhatchett775]

I never liked external mounted electric fuel pumps. I had one on my 66 Cuda and it drove me nuts. It was mounted on rubber bushings too.

[@BlownBudgetGarage]

Dude it's definitely better, between the rubber bushings and something to deaden the sounds it's much quieter. Once you have actual deadening down it'll be fine. Worst case scenario just put a louder stereo system in the car lol

[@wedgewarrior71]

Hey if your good with it every body else can buy you a new pump!!!!

[@TheGasTap]

👍🏼

[@Doogie_Causey]

That Lucas Injector Cleaner Is All I Use In My Truck

[@jameshatfield7634]

Alex:you have a decibel level meter on your phone.

[@TheGasTap]

I couldn’t find a free one.

[@jameshatfield7634]

Alex:I just found 8 free ones in 10 seconds.On play store type decibel meter and they come up.

[@jiveturkey9993]

Sounds like you're either going to have to live with it or spend a bunch of money on one of those in tank fuel pumps. IMHO a major part of what makes that car so cool is its simplicity. If you got to go through a big complicated rigmarole to silence the thing then me personally I would just live with it rather than do that.

[@scrappy7571]

Much better. Maybe some foam padding around the pump would help. Also be sure the fuel lines are not touching the body anywhere, that would transmit noise too. I recall you used rubber lined mounting clamps. As for a Db level meter, you can get free apps for the phone. I use one and works well. At least it would be a relative measurement to compare sound level.

[@MoparMan-ff8fb]

Heres an idea - take a thin sheet of aluminum or gavinized sheet metal and cut it out to fit the shape of that open hole where the back rest of the seat use to be and spray the back side with 3m adhesive and buy a roll of alumium bubble rape from a home improvement store and lay it on the back of the cut out sheet metal then pop rivet it to the V frame and sheet metal lips around the open space and floor and where you cut it out to fit around the fender well you us a thick strip of weather stripping folded around the edge of the sheet metal . I did that to my dart and it looks cool and deadens the sounds . wish I could send you a pic of what I did ? its not perfect and I plan on redoing it since I didn't get the angles cut just right .

[@bcbloc02]

Yep. I think the fix is an aeromotive.😎

[@TheGasTap]

😳😳😳😳💵💵

[@rudyhollis6540]

How much is the areomotive pump?

[@bcbloc02]

@@rudyhollis6540 Aeromotve 11124 brushless A1000 is $550-$650 depending where you shop. Probably not worth it for a race car just to get less noise. The In tank 11145 stealth is an option I would consider though at 450lph they say 800hp forced induction and you likely won't be taking that little Magnum over that I wouldn't think. ANd they can be had for under $250. A little more work to install but I bet you could knock it out in an evening. :-)

[@mikesr3407]

Yeah bcbloc sounds like I need an in the tank one Thanks 😋

[@junkcars4173]

Cool car.

[@TheGasTap]

Thank you!

[@junkcars4173]

By the way, your link to buy merch is down.@@TheGasTap

[@TheGasTap]

Thanks. I’ll check that out.

[@xozindustries7451]

I put mine in the tank in my cars because that would drive me nuts, sounds better on video for sure

[@roknroy1]

look into gerotor pumps like mallory

[@robertedwards7632]

I think that pump just wants to be heard he's got something to say! Lol? Does the pump get hot? Sounds loose inside tolerance is off fluctuations change's pitch?

[@TheGasTap]

#ChineseFuelPump 🤣

[@TheGasTap]

Very well could be. I was thinking the same. But also the fuel pressure regulator may have some to do with that.

[@mikesr3407]

Yeah it's still loud , sounds just like mine ! 😐🤔😐

[@jameshatfield7634]

Alex:My electric fuel was also loud and i mounted them in rubber and it made 50% quiter.

[@rcflanagan1597]

Hey thats better lol

[@shawnmrfixitlee6478]

Ahh.. Heck man , It's a car noise what's not to love ! Anyways you won't hear it when your doing 120 down the track ..LOL ! ENJOYED Alex ..

[@evanmakopoulos8527]

Take it back that would drive me insane

[@TheGasTap]

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[@billhacker5189]

its a clearance issue or it just the nature of the beast

[@jayphillips9743]

Separate the return fuel line away from the pump and make it a solid mount. I have a suspicion you are getting hammer from the vibration that a high volume pump puts out.

[@1080sucks]

At the strip you will have a helmet on and add ear plugs, all good.

[@stevepastore7970]

I'd rather hear it at least you know that it's working.

[@sethburt8974]

If there was a way to have the pump inside a enclosure of some type? Lol...like a" budget small yeti cooler" with air holes for cool air?

[@TheGasTap]

Probably but I’m going to let it be until I can get another pump. I’m done fooling with this pump

[@gavendb]

people who complain about this pump have never used a holley blue or red...

[@TheGasTap]

👍🏼

[@Pappy412]

Several possible issues ... Bigger feed wire no less than 10 gauge .. A real BOSCH 044 yes very expensive or an fuel pump speed controller it will cut down the voltage at idle.. it won't run full tilt at idle

[@TheGasTap]

FiTech controls the fuel pump. I don't want to disrupt what it is doing and cause a problem

[@cojones8518]

Definitely sounded better after the rubber isolators. Now it just sounds like a GM PS pump and not a jet engine. :)

[@TheGasTap]

Lol

[@CaptKirk1701]

Now you know why they put them in the tanks from factory. lol

[@TheGasTap]

Ford had some inline pumps back in the day.

[@karenlucio9305]

Open headers solve the problem XD

[@TheGasTap]

there's no muffler, just turbo

[@SteveLowe65]

PSYCHE! I lol'd.

[@TheGasTap]

GOTCHA

[@mv8mstraseapfcc113]

Disconnect the fuel line from the tank and put it directly in a gas can. If it is much quieter you should consider tank mods for a bigger pickup. Try this on the return side also by dumping the pump outlet into a bucket, then reconnect and dump the return from the motor into a bucket. Restrictions can make it noisy by starving the pump and/or heating and aerating the fuel. I'm thinking the tank pickup probably needs work.

[@TheGasTap]

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[@mv8mstraseapfcc113]

@@TheGasTap Nice pickup! Hard to find sae 30R10 submersible hose in 1/2 inch but then the remote sock seller must have it. If it were the wrong hose type it could pinch completely or partially flat under suction. Hopefully what they gave you was more like hydraulic hose than heater.

[@TheGasTap]

I bought the hose from a local industrial supply shop. I explained the usage and that’s what he gave me. It’s made for heavy machinery

[@mv8mstraseapfcc113]

@@TheGasTap That may be fine and I hope that works. I'd also look at the hose between the pickup and pump to resist pinching from suction. I use semi-rigid nylon for straight sections or preflared/assembled steel trans lines (ignore or split off fittings) for bends with just enough rubber hose to make connections so it can't pinch and to keep the cost down since good rubber hose is so expensive now, plus there is a limit to how much rubber hose you are allowed. For hoses and lines, check out Mcmaster-carr or aircraft spruce for addel /cushion clamps and 1/4-20 x 3/4 self tapers for blind holes in the unibody or machine screws with nylocks for thru-hole in the pan. For the brake line running all the way through both sides of the sub connector, to prevent rubbing, I'd split length-wise a piece of low pressure fuel hose that will stick out a half inch from each side.

[@Pedroisanickname]

Your recent test drive brought you through some really beautiful scenery. I know you're somewhere in Florida, but I was wondering what part? Thanks in advance.

[@TheGasTap]

Tallahassee, FL

[@Pedroisanickname]

@@TheGasTap Bueatiful area. BTW, the Valiant's body and base charm is a masterpiece of minimalist design that rivals GM's 66/67 Nova, my bucket list car. Thanks again.

[@TheGasTap]

That's my style, even in my house. lol . Thanks

[@WillyMcCoy50]

If the brushes in the pump motor are pitching noise like that they aren't healthy. There is a noise/heat paint insulator called Lizardskin that would help a little. I will google around and find a high flow fuel pump that is noiseless.

[@TheGasTap]

Thank you

[@johnnyx970]

The mosquito pump lives on. Lol.

[@Scott-ec4ux]

- now I know why they were always mounted right rear corner of the old drag cars.. .. I believe that is where you are going to eventually put it * _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

[@TheGasTap]

drag cars usually have fuel cells in the rear with the pump mounted next to it. Mine will not go there

[@Scott-ec4ux]

@@TheGasTap OK...

[@choppps5858]

In tank pump!!! Seriously its the only solution. I've been there