Louis Theroux on His Relationship With Jimmy Savile and THAT MJ Tweet | Edinburgh TV Festival 2019

[@S7EVE_P]

The BBC are partly responsible for JS being able to continue his behaviour. How about BBC programme on how the BBC behaved?!

[@Lunarfacia]

There already are some.

[@we4r119]

Steve Powell - they are more than partly responsible. He was allowed free access to young children through them, made famous enough to head up children's charities. The BBC has a statue created by a paedophile boldly decorating their building. I think it is meant to be Isaiah offering up his son as a sacrifice. It's a man presenting a naked boy. What the hell has that to do with broadcasting?

[@loulou6760]

I belive the BBC are whole heartedly responsible for Saville and his disgusting vile crimes

[@Lunarfacia]

@@loulou6760 I think Jimmy Savile was responsible for his crimes.

[@loulou6760]

@@Lunarfacia yes and the BBC gave him the TV sets, funds and children.

[@geraldineelizabeth151]

“The process of realising you’re a victim takes time.” I implore the world to take heed of this. It can take decades.

[@micheald3716]

Jimmy had two older brothers Vincent and johnny, they were like peas in a pod. Johnny got booted out of his job in a hospital in South london, yes you guessed it sexual misconduct. Nothing known about Vincent?

[@sugarsundae3400]

@@micheald3716 I thought Jimmy Savile was an only child didn't realise he had siblings.

[@micheald3716]

@@sugarsundae3400 yes two brothers very unsavoury types.

[@fintonmainz7845]

Well said. One often hears the mantra "why are they only talking about this now"

[@katee8147]

thanks for this share.

[@terrortorn]

BBC talking about Saville as if they are not involved.

[@Nantosuelta]

exactly

[@jennytaylor3324]

These monsters can't operate without blind eyes being turned. Acquiescence of neutral/''good' people is the only way evil can survive in this world, and the few control the many.

[@bengordon6311]

Where did he work.......? >.>

[@DominicClark-cy8mq]

Too right, dude

[@ksportz66]

terrortorn - Police to blame not BBC.

[@ericellis3506]

I watched Saville for years on TV and just thought him a crude eccentric, but Johnny Rotten had him sussed back in the seventies.

[@NoName-wi2ww]

Didn't bbc blacklist Johnny Rotten after speaking out about savile

[@johnnymarshall5828]

A girl i know was on one of Savilles shows and he touched her on the arse in what she described as a very sexual way,she was fourteen at the time,in all honesty there were many other pop stars and actors engaging in this behaviour.I detest the BBC,always taking the moral high ground and letting decades of abuse go on under their watch.Never paying the fee again

[@heliotropezzz333]

I remember one episode of his show 'Jim'll Fix It'. He would 'fix' children's dreams often getting other famous people involved. I can't remember what he fixed but I remember the little girl in question being very grateful, but more so to the star he fixed for her to meet, than to Jimmy. The look on his face was very revealing, sort of jealous and annoyed that all the gratitude wasn't going to him, and he more or less ordered the girl to come and show gratitude to him. I thought then he was weird and creepy. In retrospect it was a perfect show for grooming because I'm sure he thought the 'gratitude' of the children would allow him to take liberties with them behind the scenes. I wasn't an adult myself at the time when I watched it.

[@martinnolan4800]

Helen Trope This criminal took “hiding in plain sight” to the most extraordinary lengths. It wasn’t just the B.B.C. that he conned, what lessons can be learned?

[@martinnolan4800]

Tom Mears I always disliked the f*****. It seems like we should trust our “gut instinct” more.

[@jamesstewart7736]

"Let's watch a clip" - "we dont have permission to show this clip" how ironic! Not having permission never stopped Saville 😡

[@gerome9874]

Are you comparing licensing agreements to the abuse of children ?

[@the_Harbinger_666]

I wonder who censored the clip?.... Can someone find the clip she's talking about?

[@the_Harbinger_666]

@@gerome9874 in the UK, people are forced to pay for the upkeep of the BBC.... Although nowadays its called a "TV license fee"..... Hardly anyone over there knows that the BBC sell programs to other countries with a huge profit... And they profit from advertising in every other country in the world.... Only in UK do people pay said fees... And its compulsory.... So the people of UK were forced to pay for that sick b***ard to actually abuse his victims and to keep it quiet 😠😠😠 the BBC is also complicit..... But they're bulletproof since they are part of the "old boys network".... Something else visitors here should find out about....

[@zbufton]

@@the_Harbinger_666 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWXRemVjp6aHiMk i believe it’s this one

[@the_Harbinger_666]

Tom Bufton, thanks for the link... Much appreciated 😁👍🏻

[@greyline1012]

As a small child that had been through some traumatic experiences, I saw Saville on tv and knew straight away he was “Bad”.

[@theravedaddy]

I used to be sent out of the room by my stepmother when that nonce came on the tv. I knew what a nonce looked like from an early age and my stepmother didnt like me saying so.

[@PK-re3lu]

@Qwfwq66 Funny, I can remember feeling the same as a small child!

[@thehoneyeffect]

Same

[@gentx2160]

Jim loved children! More than the catholic church. And children loved Jimmy and the Catholic church in the British Empire. Good old days.

[@Nautilus1972]

I didn't.

[@seanp8220]

It wasn't because that he was a genius at hoodwinking everyone as much as he was protected by the system and given authority because of it.

[@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24]

He was protected because he was basically the chief child procurement for the royals and the establishment pedo bastards. Why wouldn't they protect their best supplier for their sick needs

[@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24]

@lee dreherlet me guess the BBC didn't know what he was up to either and Prince Andrew is innocent as well is he? The establishment is full of em.

[@user-yv2cz8oj1k]

That's still not proof. Though saville, glitter, the fact there were so many of them and now Prince Andrew had been uncovered too and distanced from the royals, and that's the ones they could be bothered to uncover that didn't die decades ago. There was a drama series 'Dead Head' that the BBC have tried to bury, it's worth a watch.

[@thomassummerhill6357]

Even as a kid I disliked Savile, always thought there was something not right about him.

[@paulduffy4585]

Yea man super fuckin creepy.

[@thomashassall96]

I told my mother in no uncertain terms to never write to Jim’ l’fix it 😬

[@paulduffy4585]

@@thomashassall96 but what's really creepy is the way it was tolerated - if you're rich and famous you can be as evil as you please.

[@spiritualanarchist8162]

**I know it was the 'flashy 70thies'and all , but he dressed like a B movie pimp.

[@joanneclarke952]

Same...

[@ianclarke3627]

What doesn't get much of a mention in that louie meets Jimmy doc is when savile says the best time of his life was spending 5 days alone with his dead mothers body .

[@davidhat2446]

well I an there is nothing sinister in that, it's just that people don't like to discuss unspeakable things !

[@jacquelinestewart3820]

I watched the program, I don’t even remember that, he was so sick 🤢

[@drnope3289]

@@davidhat2446 Dude. He was a necrophiliac.

[@davidhat2446]

@@drnope3289 well its not a crime to love your mother !

[@peggygarland6632]

Totally alone with his dead Mother, no other morners, BEST TIME OF HIS LIFE..... WHAT IN THE WORLD, WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME IF HE WAS HAVING SEX WITH HER.. OMG

[@KazKasozi]

Wasn't the BBC totally complicit in Saville 's exploits!

[@Bigjuicydumbdumb]

Yes.

[@braxfan683]

You may've read it, but a man said when he was on Jim'll fix it, jimmy took him in his dressing room to abuse him, and he said someone opened the door, and said "Oops!"

[@KazKasozi]

@@braxfan683 Incredible!

[@7dtdfil730]

As soon as the story hit 'Children In Need' released a statement saying that as soon as they knew about his behaviours they banned him from appearing... why didn't they report him to protect the children in need??

[@sugarsundae3400]

@@braxfan683 there's so many similar stories that just aren't true. I don't believe half the things Savilles been accused of are true. Strange how no one said anything until years after his death, people are just after compensation.

[@frazer601]

As a 7 year old boy he pushed me I a wheelchair from admissions to a ward at Leeds infirmary out of sight of my parents. It's something I don't like to think about.

[@jennytaylor3324]

Must be chilling to consider what could've happened. Glad you got out unharmed.

[@frazer601]

@@jennytaylor3324 Well my parents both attended and the hospital was very busy that night so that helped but thank you for your comment.

[@peggygarland6632]

What a scary situation, Thank God nothing else happened. He was SO DISCUSTING to LOOK at. How utterly horrible experience for the children he got to. GOD BLESS YOU.

[@frazer601]

@@peggygarland6632 Well as far as I know nothing happened.He was out of sight from everyone for an unknown period,seconds or maybe nutes and throughout my life ive had physical issues which may be due to other things but it makes you wonder.

[@janeparfitt65]

He always looked weird, especially when on Top of the Pops. Strange looking. The hair, everything about him & he died without having a day in prison. What a shame he missed it. I'm sure the others in the prison would've Fixed It For Jim. Filthy vile sicko & all the people that knew at the BBC. Etc etc

[@mongoosemojo8041]

Saville wasn't doing this alone, come on people don't pretend like this type of abuse is over in the circles Saville walked in.

[@Dudley-x2c]

He was involved in Sutcliffe s crimes. One victim died in park back of his flat in Leeds. There was a photo of him introducing Frank Bruno to Sutcliffe in Broadmoor. Won't find it now. Wiped from the internet...

[@mongoosemojo8041]

@@Dudley-x2c Are you referring to this.. www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jimmy-savile-frank-bruno-reveals-1430910

[@jimmysavile8391]

The kids on elm Leeds are mine Ho Ho Ho

[@mongoosemojo8041]

@@jimmysavile8391 So are you Santa now? Ho Ho Ho?

[@michelleevans3337]

@@Dudley-x2c still pictures though bro

[@thewaywardgrape3838]

I served with a bloke that had latent antisocial behavior traits, which developed full blown in a severe situation. I'll paraphrase what he said about Saville 'I can feel the evil from that man and it's scary. If you can't sense there's something wrong, you're damn fool that will experience the cruelty of others'. This was a bloke that did terrible acts of violence before ending his life and even he felt disgusted just by watching him!!!!

[@silverapples75]

Takes a wrong un to know one?

[@LA-gh3mi]

Wow.

[@2tearsinabucket521]

Best friends with so called royalty and access to their palaces.. Charles was saville good friend and Andrew was Epstein.. the queen has raised two peados but we're supposed to clap when she drives past still..ok

[@katieb2098]

Often people with antisocial traits are victims of abuse and childhood abuse and they are very good at spotting abusers .. I was abused as a child and I can smell pedos .. I've always known .. I've always suspected people of being one and come to find out later they were in fact predators ..

[@chazdomingo475]

@@katieb2098 My dad was and he was a fucking asshole. Didn't do that to me though. Just beat me real good.

[@richardl772]

He was always so manic in his speech and gestures it just left you with the overwhelming feeling he was doing his best to hide something.....turns out he was.

[@englishrose5483]

Over acting all the time. It was so fake.

[@The_Dark_Goblin]

Jimmy saville always gave me the creeps when I was a kid. Turns out I was right.

[@raslion9974]

You know that ! + all the adults lapping up his stupidness , couldn't stand his ugly disgusting mug , obvious he was a nonce

[@maidmarion2976]

Your gut instinct is your best friend

[@thomashassall96]

LenaLamont yep, I used to barricade my bedroom door to stop Santa getting in my room while I was asleep too. True story, my mom thought I was odd 😂

[@FamilyfarmNNW]

I always got the vibe too, and from Rolph Harris and Bill Cosby. My parents used to think my disgust for them was funny.

[@MissJensk1]

Me too!

[@jennytaylor3324]

Louis will forever carry guilt for not seeing Saville more clearly. It really comes over. He's a good journo, and would have spoken up if he'd known more. I hope he knows we know that.

[@annevetter6864]

He seems very vague and evasive to me

[@richardsmith748]

Saville was an intelligent psychopath. Saville owned the narrative, almost to the end. Saville wore the mask well.

[@paulhart8814]

@@annevetter6864 his body language 4.28 onwards, says a lot again at 7.06 when ever talking about pedos and love he leans away from the interviewer, may be he has been abused himself, but I am not in any way an expert

[@learnenglishphuketlearneng6819]

Any physical evidence against JS?

[@screwfaceclub]

I don’t think so. I feel like he was complicit just as everyone else that was around the Pedo

[@tommyhughes2264]

The fact is Saville was protected by people in high places, that means at the BBC the government and the police.

[@nicolettacinci2961]

I wonder why

[@David-og7di]

Really Sherlock?!

[@David-og7di]

@Paul Hoye you know this as a fact?

[@David-og7di]

@Paul Hoye oh well....that proves everything.

[@KeldorDAntrell]

Savile was himself in those high places. He was nationally famous, loved widely for very public charity work, and a multi-millionaire.

[@beendoneagain]

My sister worked in Fleet Street and told me everyone knew there, and at the BBC. No one wanted off the Gravy Train..Silence is Golden!

[@djhaynes99]

They had to have known they had news articles that Savile blocked with lawyers. Louis says he had a aunt who worked for the Daily Mail in the 80's and told him a story they were going to run about Savile was blocked.

[@jeremyglauert870]

They are the scum of the earth. I was abused after spending a month in an orphanage when I was nearly 4 years old. I never knew until I was in my 40s when something triggered my mind and put it all together. I can’t identify the person but can vividly remember a man standing over me early in the morning and undressing me against my will. I use to be able to get up in the middle of the night to use the toilet but after that had to scream out for my mother to turn the light on before I’d get up and go once I returned home. Now their is a Royal Commission into child abuse at that orphanage during the early 60s when I was there. It’s probably the reason I took drugs and always felt uneasy undressing in front of others and ended up an introvert for many years. I quit Boy Scouts because I witnessed the same thing happening there.

[@peggygarland6632]

Will PAY WHEN THEY STAND BEFORE GOD

[@amandaroberts1222]

I’m sorry that happened to you.

[@patkelly3966]

Louis, what about the part when he boldly states, paraphrasing, " I'm a dark character, I'm a wrongun. It'll all come out when I'm gone. "

[@jimmybaldwin737]

When’s that clip ?

[@jqbaker418]

They don't have permission to show that clip either I'm guessing.

[@peterwallis4288]

Haven't seen that, but I can see why anyone would just think that's just a joke. That sounds like the type of thing my dad might say, and as far as I know, he was not a bad guy.

[@janeslater8004]

Lol did he say that

[@dianesilva1078]

Louis is often benevolent towards his interviewees to get them to open up and hopefully reveal more than they intended. The most significant part of the programme was when he directly asked Savile his response to accusations of being paedophile. Which indicates people knew because those suspicions were not in the public domain at the time.

[@evesapple]

He always made me uncomfortable whenever I saw him on screen as a kid. It wasn't a surprise and I can't see how a smart guy like Theroux seems to have been taken in. Rolf Harris was a shock though- granted, he's not as bad as saville, but he seemed 100% harmless

[@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24]

If you watch the clip again where Louis talks to Saville about the accusations you'll notice Saville says "nobody KNOWS I'm a paedophile" then quickly adds "because I'm not" I always remember this sticking out because it seemed like a guilty slip up.

[@janetramsdale4478]

@Qwfwq66 that's a good point

[@Liamthewaldo]

@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 he didn't say that rewatch it

[@rohunsaigal2576]

@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 He says "Nobody knows if I am or not" then after a moment adds "I know I'm not"

[@wendyemilymitchell5790]

Johnny R said that 'I'd like to kill Jimmy Savile" - if he'd been allowed to do so it would have saved a lot of lives and misery for many people. I notice this show says "we don't have permission to show this clip" - surely it's gone beyond that hasn't it?!

[@EXITMUSIC2011]

He didn't try hard enough to tell anybody who would listen.

[@janeslater8004]

@@EXITMUSIC2011 well no. He was told he would be sued for saying it. I heard that bit too on the clip thats it on with with pierce morgan. Who also hung out with all these people savile gary glitter max clifford cliff richard jonathan king and so on

[@davidnolan6319]

I still believe he was involved in ripper hunt, found a body 30 yards from his house, over friendly with ripper in Broadmoor 👀

[@thomashassall96]

Sutcliffe was terrified of saville even after he died

[@staziemccarthy1267]

@@thomashassall96 how do u know that ??

[@robashworth2163]

What about lindsey jo rymer? Not sure that ive spelt her name correctly,she disappeared yards from his holiday caravan and the local priest tipped the "police" off

[@robashworth2163]

@Northern Monkey you do know that the police looked into it in an actual live investigation,so theres something there

[@rosemaryoverell1375]

He was questioned / named in a tip off to Yorkshire Police

[@Crusades1270victorious]

You know the BBC are accessory after the fact.. when the bbc, instead of airing the Jimmy savile investigation scandal on newsnight, they Rerun the jimmy savile tribute programme 😆..

[@PeacefulBrit]

Looking back at footage now, it's insane that people didn't see what he was. And the people that protected him and even were "delivered" children by him, are pure evil

[@iain2080]

We now have the benefit of hindsight

[@iain2080]

@Aquagirl 🎏 what the hell are you on about? Brand hasn't abused anyone as far as I know

[@akizeta]

@@iain2080 "As far as I know". That's the point, really: we don't know. How would we know? Brand's always seemed a bit sleazy to me, and his latest YouTubing doesn't fill me with respect for him, but I don't know anything beyond that. We don't know until we know.

[@xplaybwoix]

What do we all think now? @@akizeta

[@akizeta]

@@xplaybwoix "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?" - Paul Samuelson (though often attributed to John Maynard Keynes, and Winston Churchill)

[@bobwinner8936]

I remember Louis cycling around a room in his house saying 'my friend Jimmy you can stay at my house anytime'. I think Theroux was actually groomed by Saville on that documentary and Theroux didn't even realise it.

[@ohdear1481]

I remember that clip of Louis “bum licking” Sir Jimmy Saville, but it seems to have disappeared. I believe Jimmy said he could help Louis and he of course reacted very favourably. Louis doesn’t recount this part very often (OK Never)

[@abigaileppleston8725]

@@ohdear1481 what do you mean, what happened in the scene?

[@alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361]

the pair of Them shared a kid .....-sick ......!!!!

[@amandaroberts1222]

Do you think?

[@Canyoutakemebackwhereicamefrom]

Louis shouldn't feel bad because he was friendly with savile. The man was was a monster but he was also very captivating. He had that witty humour and superficial charm that a lot of psychopaths develop in order to put ppl under their spell. I mean I still can't help but watch when I see something about him. It is a bit like Bundy or Manson, they make a spectacle because they love the limelight and you can't help but watch and savile was on another level because his TV show and his connections meant he was able to sort of woo half the nation with his 'tricky' character as he referred to it. He was also always dropping hints that he was bad and ppl get drawn to that kind of "honesty" even though it is actually further deception. Fascinating case study for anyone who is interested in the dark aspects of psychology. I would imagine that for a man of science like Luis it is almost impossible not to be curious. I think he did a great job of interviewing savile.

[@iowagirl9563]

Birds of a feather. It's not a coincidence, you know? The BBC protects pedophiles. That's a fact! I are quite sympathetic to pedos. You want to confess anything? This guy, prince Andrew, Harvey Weinstein, Epstein, Clintons, Podesta's, BHO, Soros...

[@amandaroberts1222]

Well said

[@tboflanagan77]

He reminds me of Prince Andrew with the distancing, the stuttering

[@jayadams681]

lets not forget that it was keir starmer,when head of the c.p.s who said that saville had no case to answer.......

[@tutorsteve]

Steamer could only look at the evidence presented. The evidence was not presented, it was covered up.....those who covered up to blame not Starmer. Obvious really, but why let the truth spoil things?

[@Dilkingt0nne]

Haha love the interviewer there; "I dont want to linger on Jimmy Savile for too long so,... Michael Jackson!" 😂

[@ness-lu6pl]

I know right they flip the script fast to a proven innocent man .

[@Dilkingt0nne]

@@ness-lu6pl agreed. But I’m just having a joke

[@aspiknf]

@@ness-lu6pl He was never proven innocent, he was not guilty, not the same as innocent.

[@aspiknf]

@@ness-lu6pl Also Michael Jackson had a nude picture of Jonathan Spence in his room, guilty.

[@aspiknf]

@@davidlast1370 Nope

[@nnnormski2208]

Louis’s , Savile Doc nearly uncovered something but didn’t quite make it , as it was watched by millions it brought Savile into the spotlight , Savile knew LT came close so as a result kept Louis in his orbit , probably offering advice , advancement etc to his career ......like the old saying goes “ keep your friends close and your enemies closer “ .

[@RadagonTheRed]

When I was a young child I saw Savile on TV and apparently said to my mum “I don’t like him. He’s creepy!” I would only have been 4-5 at the time and had never seen or heard of him before knowingly. It’s interesting to me that even at that young age some sort of instinctual fear and disgust was triggered.

[@clivemitchell7376]

I felt very uncomfortable when he had young boys and girls sitting on his knee on the programme Jim will fix it.

[@cloudy7292]

Mate, it's worse than that looking back at top of the pops footage. I wouldn't recommend it or if you do, have a bucket handy.

[@sugarsundae3400]

@@cloudy7292 why what did he do on top of the pops ?

[@sugarsundae3400]

Yet strange how no one said anything until year's after his death. I don't believe half the thing's Saville has been accused of is true people were just after compensation.

[@cloudy7292]

@@sugarsundae3400 That's a disgusting comment to make and I'm not explaining anything to the likes of you. Imagine how his many victims would feel reading your comment. Shame on you to even attempt to excuse what he did. Disgusting wretch.

[@teijaflink2226]

Sugar Sundare Some tried and even went to the police but where not taken seriously.

[@jasonwilson7674]

There are still hundreds like saville in the public eye that we don't know about

[@andrejlindholm9667]

Yeah,inphuckin'deed. 💯⚠️

[@johnhuggins1394]

And from all walks of life.Some respectul people

[@ryshed4365]

I know it's the era of misinformation but have you perhaps got any proof?

[@johnhuggins1394]

@@ryshed4365 Paedophiles come from all walks of life from vicars to parish councillers to police officers to teachers to social workers to gardeners to those unemployed from rich to poor

[@jduddy6841]

Cliff Richard is next. A very creepy man, never had any love interest and is best mates with a Catholic priest.

[@fintanbeirne7261]

“We can’t be here today without discussing jimmy saville” Me on first dates

[@alisonwunderland9900]

Why is she calling Savile 'Jimmy' - makes me feel sick each time she says it.

[@sirandrelefaedelinoge]

That was his name...

[@alisongrace4334]

Exactly what I thought, Alison. Savile - Jimmy makes him sound friendly.

[@SlyerFox666]

Because calling him a Child Fucker is too harsh for the snow flakes we bring up today 🤣

[@adampowell5376]

Well perhaps you are just going to have to learn not to overreact to things.

[@markdal49]

@Adam Powell Presumably you would refer to Jeffrey Epstein as 'Jeff'?

[@juliabrodie1660]

I moved to the UK when I was 11. Jimmy Saville gave me the creeps! He wasn't right. Dirty somehow in a way I couldn't explain. I could never understand why the British public didn't see what I saw. A creepy old man who appeared to do good but seemed so insincere. Shark eyed / dead eyed. Shudders even now

[@peterhawdon8972]

Poor Louis ,like one of the victims said when he was doing his expose , said of him (Louis) ..." he himself was groomed by Saville!! "

[@bonnie8441]

Theroux is so gormless.How he ever got on TV in the first place gets me.

[@royfr8136]

I can say the say about Dawn

[@mikebarker6979]

His documentaries are brilliant

[@janeslater8004]

He knows the right people his brother or cousin was married too jennifer aniston

[@growlerthe2nd712]

He is connected

[@pompomflorentine7]

Louis seems uncomfortable in this interview.

[@Bhappi137]

@Boris The Blade I’ve never thought so till I watched this now I wonder.....who feels they are a friend of Saville I’ve gone right off Louis

[@neillp3827]

Imagine if a friend you'd known for 20 odd years turned out to be a nonce it would weird u out

[@chelseapoet3664]

There were many reasons why Savile got away with it, but surely the no.1 reason he was never prosecuted was because he was best very good friends indeed with the then Prince Charles and the establishment simply would not allow such a person to be even charged with a major crime.

[@PermanentMerka]

The difference is one of them was so establishment he boasted about his royal and political connections to police officers at all levels to get away with it and had the highest honour in the land bestowed upon him by the head of state and was found guilty multiple times (after death) whilst the other was in an opposite sense mentally destroyed by the allegations hounded by media made no.1 songs saying 'All I really know is that they don't really care about us' and was never found guilty. Ohh and a Doctor, a lesser reported fact went to prison for his death just prior to him touring in the very place the Saville ran loose. To compare the two on the information we have without pointing any of this out is disgraceful journalism. Louie and Saville used each other and Louie used MJ via Twitter to virtue signal a smoke screen.

[@janeslater8004]

Great comment i agree

[@zargonthemagnificent330]

Lol at all the people so wise after the event. "Oh, I always knew he was a wrong 'un, never liked him, and my suspicions were proved correct!" Rubbish. In reality, at the time NEARLY EVERYONE thought Saville was just a bit eccentric and did a lot of work for charity. That is how he got away with it - very, very few people knew or would even have believed it.

[@twogitsinacar4811]

Spot on - nobody but nobody knew anything - they ALL just SUSPECTED something, nothing was ever proved until after he died - Hindsight is a wonderful thing

[@hotpotato4027]

Isn’t the world of TV and the BBC amazing, even when your not ‘employable’ you still get your shed loads of money ‘under contract’ , especially when your front of camera! Many ‘celebs’ earn very very good money from the BBC (public money) with regular appearances in all manner of programmes, that’s why they keep it in the family so to speak! I do like Louis though I must say, he seem genuine and grounded.

[@paulburns1333]

Boring nerd, must be holding serious dirt on someone to make a career front of camera when you've got a face for radio, a voice that could put a hyperactive child to sleep and the abilty to keep faking sincerity and interest.

[@jakeet999]

The difference between Saville and MJ is MJ was cleared in a court of law after a 10 year FBI investigation, if Saville would went to court and then jail they would of thrown away the key , Louis has always been a freak although I quite enjoyed his shows

[@cleoldbagtraallsorts3380]

He wasnt ever cleared of anything. He settled out of court in one case. The two most recent cases he couldn't be tried for. Why do you think he was investigated for 10 years by the FBI, because they thought he was a paedophile, they just couldn't get concrete proof or witnesses willing to testify. The FBI do not spend thousands of dollars of tax payers money and resources if they don't think there is substance to an allegation. Even a not guilty verdict does not mean the person is innocent, just that the jury considered there was not enough evidence to convict without a doubt, not that there was no evidence at all. If an enquiry clears someone, it is called an exoneration, he was never exonerated. In some countries, including Scotland, there is a 3rd verdict, which I believe should exist everywhere, " not proven." This means the jury believe the person to be guilty but consider they would need more evidence to vote " guilty," whereas the " not guilty " verdict means they genuinely believe the person is not guilty. As it is most countries only have "guilty" and "not guilty, " so the jury has to pick between the two, which leads to the confusion that a person found " not guilty " is innocent, when without the option of a 3rd verdict, it means nothing of the sort.

[@jodieandrobbieyorke]

MJ paid of Jordans parents the first time and god knows how many others he Paid off and made them sign a NDA. He was a nonce.

[@waynegill6648]

@@jodieandrobbieyorke MJ settled the civil case because the judge wouldn't put the criminal case first. The criminal trial went ahead and two grand juries couldn't indict him. Before he made it public, Jordan's father demanded 20 million off MJ first and MJ refused. He then demanded 1 million and MJ still refused. In relation to the NDA, that was a mutual decision by all parties as MJ was counter suing for blackmail and extortion. Best to research before you mouth off. Thanks :)

[@aspiknf]

@@waynegill6648 Michael Jackson had a nude picture of Jonathan Spence in his room.

[@waynegill6648]

@@aspiknf False. He didn't as that was never found by the FBI. If you want to talk about this, go and learn the facts. Otherwise, don't bother with gossip and hearsay

[@allisonmackay446]

The royal family had a hell of a lot to do with him being able and to get away for so long to do the horrible things he did.

[@michelleevans3337]

Funny how saviles middle name was Churchill...Winston himself having royal blood and the rumour Elizabeth 2nd had relations with said prime minister...just saying...savile was spawned from them hence protection...

[@stud105]

They just protect their own careers. When savile said he was "feared in every school in the land" to Louis, he was mocking him to see if he had a backbone... SPINELESS.

[@janeslater8004]

He said that comment in 2 other interviews i have seen one on hignfy and i think the andrew neil one. He was blatantly telling everyone

[@jasenwright1178]

The BBC absolving themselves from any responsibility, guilt or blame!

[@joefoley1480]

Louis knew Louis knew more than he is saying

[@ianpearson8976]

Are u columbo

[@kirstywright5228]

@86CJH Yes, because they're controversial people and topics and they make good TV. He's touched on porn several times but he isn't a porn star. He's been to multiple prisons but he's not a criminal.

[@sirandrelefaedelinoge]

Some people will see guilt and conspiracy everywhere they look; they're just as twisted.

[@wedfrest]

Got any evidence for that?

[@zxbc1]

@@sirandrelefaedelinoge Some people can only find the feeling of intelligence from seeing guilt and conspiracy everywhere. It has the added bonus of delusion of moral grandeur. Deep down inside they are no more than mediocre, boring and petty.

[@1991ltd]

Maybe he should be more self aware and not let what happened with Saville cloud his judgement of every other case. He thinks MJ is guilty simply because he feels guilty about letting Jimmy Saville slip through his fingers, and he's pretty much said as much himself. Two completely different cases. He pretty much has the mindset of 'I'll never miss another one again'

[@matrix2297]

The MJ character assassination is one of the most horrendous in history. That documentary was insane, and would get the Amber Heard stamp of approval. One day the truth will emerge.

[@fredericktarr8266]

HE KNEW

[@ENIGMA-tangerino555]

Jimmy obvs thought Louis was one too and was 'sounding him out

[@annother3350]

Never. Louis was key to getting the under 30s on side. Jimmy thought it would help him lose the weirdo image

[@dementednun1175]

I watched an old episode of Are You Being Served the other day, that show was produced by the BBC, see in the particular episode I watched Mrs Slocombe asks ms Brahms why she was rushing home ..... she said Jimmy Savile and Gary Glitter are on the TV tonight and I have to stop my mom from smashing the set..... they knew

[@alonzomosley7]

Anthony Clare picked him years ago , way before Theroux . I read his book in the 80s and was too young to know the impact

[@showmoke]

I thought that Louis was not particularly eloquent in this chat - he seemed to be very hesitant and kept tripping over his words quite a lot.

[@neillp3827]

Its a thorny issue for him, he basically prob feels a lot of guilt by proxy. He's normally a lot more eloquent, but he also has the pretending to be aspergers style of interviewing to get ppl to open up

[@showmoke]

@@neillp3827 - yes, he normally is. Probably one of the best interviews that for me that he’s ever done was when Joe Rogan interviewed him on Joe’s podcast talking in great detail about Scientology and all the people behind it. Absolutely fascinating it was!

[@routeman680]

Theroux: "I've got a book coming out." That sums it up.

[@martinnolan4800]

It’s what Theroux is mostly about.

[@zxbc1]

I'd still rather read his book than cheap insults by armchair moralists on youtube comments.

[@voteDC]

It's amazing all this time later how many people always had that feeling that something was wrong about Saville. Ask anyone these days and they'll say something along the lines of "I could tell he was a wrong 'un. I could just feel it." Perhaps if those people hadn't watched all his programs then he wouldn't have gained the popularity that let him set away with his filth for so long. Let's face it, you didn't feel something was wrong with him at the time and you're just saying it now to try and make yourself appear not as stupid as the rest of us.

[@christopherevans5816]

As a child I watched Jim'll fix it the premise of the show was to give a child a great experience. Children all wanted to write in to have a chance of a lifetime experience. He came across as an eccentric uncle but always a bit odd. I never wrote to him but if you watched this show now it was so obvious he was using this idea to groom children. I cannot believe how he was allowed to get away with this. How the producers etc allowed this to happen is unfathomable

[@kentoxymoron6857]

Theroux is apologetic and full of excuses but as a BBC employee he knew exactly what he was allowed to ask and not to ask Jimmy.

[@brandonwalton443]

How about the process of recognising facts vs fiction...like the constant made up stories in leaving Neverland. That’s important too.

[@annabell3385]

After that conversation in the car, Jimmy started to yawn like a dog does when it's nervous. I wonder if that's a common trait of sociopathic liars.

[@lisarussell3451]

Yup I noticed that too & totally agree

[@neillp3827]

There was always a prop or wacky diversionary tactic when pinned down on a tough question

[@simonhoulding4414]

To be fair to Louis, most of the people apart from the higher echelons, were hoodwinked by him, he hid in plain sight.

[@matrix2297]

The fact he skimmed over Saville hanging out with the royals....yeah, we know why!

[@eamoman651]

What was the Jackson tweet?

[@darthkek1953]

He said "Ghostbusters 2016 sucks harder than a six year old boy on a two-week trip to Neverland."

[@TheHiphopgems]

He was supporting Leaving Neverland

[@dre8463]

@@TheHiphopgems well, of course he would lol remember, these people were the same ones who sucked up to Savile but bashed MJ in the media while they were both alive lol you can’t trust these people

[@stardust-hr8wh]

He wasn't all bad. When I was a youngster he fixed it for me to milk a cow blind folded.

[@tonywoodham3760]

A one teated cow mmmm very interesting

[@KevinSmith-wp9qs]

He said that (in the case of Jackson) you have to believe what an incredibly one-sided documentary tells you, this coming from a documentary maker lol. Sorry Louis, I'm not that dumb, sad so many are.

[@aspiknf]

Michael Jackson had a nude picture of Jonathan Spence in his room.

[@nunyabiznes6243]

@@aspiknf proof?

[@1991ltd]

@@aspiknf no he didn't. The prosecution claimed to have that but never even submitted it as evidence in his trial.

[@jazmorrison9030]

Dan Reed only did leaveing neverland did for money. And wade did want to do mj one in Las Vegas but got told no by mj estate because they thought wade was shit

[@listentothenightfilms]

"I can get anything me...." I'll never forget that moment. Louis pushed too hard and Jimmy gave him a look I've never seen outside of old footage of Ted Bundy. Savile was a very frightening specimen.

[@almondsmithG]

Where can I find the clip that couldn't had been shown? @3:13

[@petermizon4344]

Watching Saville on TOTP with his hand up the back of a young girls dress is so brazen.you can tell shes uncomforable.

[@twogitsinacar4811]

You mean Colleen Nolan, watch the interview of what her Sisters said about it

[@danw1374]

@@twogitsinacar4811 That was the other clip when savile is talking to the camera standing up with girls either side of him, he blatantly gropes the girl to the right of him and she is clearly startled at his actions, all this on prime evening bbc tv when millions would have been watching top of the pops, quite unbelievable how brazen he was.

[@Dilkingt0nne]

Hindsight is 20:20 bro

[@janewright2800]

How he get away with that behaviour on camera is beyond belief!!!

[@lisawilliams6148]

Why have they written Micheál Jackson into this story? It clearly has nothing to do with him other than psychologically trying to trick viewers into believing that the two are alike, Michael Jackson was in love with Diana Ross he liked older women, who wouldn’t want to make children happy and give them happiness especially when you have been through a bad childhood yourself, it makes you realise how precious children and a childhood really is. Mainstream tv need to stop pushing false narratives and deliberately misleading the small bit many people that put their trust and money into them, that’s why I stopped watching tv, the fact is fiction and the fiction is fact. Most of these presenters are just reciting what a hidden person has written whether or not the believe or agree with it, they just want to get paid.

[@shivaniseenivasan5241]

Just by look at MJ people will click the viedo

[@spiderkitty7643]

The problem with the Finding Neverland documentary is the staggering lack of actual evidence. Unfortunately the entire film relies solely upon the hearsay of alleged victims whose claims happen to have become financially incentivized in a number of ways. As a survivor of early childhood rape myself, I absolutely want to see our society protect children from all predators (which really starts at home with the parents), but dispensing with due process will only make it that much harder to get any genuine justice out of any court. HASHTAG TRUST & BELIEVE ALL *_FACTS & EVIDENCE!_*

[@frankmachin5438]

Complainants saying they were victims of something is not ‘hearsay’. Hearsay would be if a witness A was saying that witness B that told them that MJ sexually them (ie witness B). Witness A saying he was sexually assaulted is direct testimony. You mean to say the ‘uncorroborated’ testimony of alleged victims. But otherwise yes, you’re 100% correct - due process, facts and evidence cannot be sacrificed in order to right the wrongs of the past I.e. not believing victims etc.

[@isthisjustfantasy7557]

First person testimony IS a form evidence. A lot of people don't seem to realise that.

[@MsGingertom]

Watch square one by Danny wu, Razorfist, John ziegler, lies of neverland, investigator Scott Ross on MJ.

[@weechill333]

Was Jill Dando doing a report about him ?

[@steevedaw566]

Pretend naivety comes in handy for moments such as this..?

[@JohnSmith-rw2yn]

Louis Missed the mark ON Saville, gets up on the soap box about Michael Jackson, who himself was a victim of abuse from his own father. Louis and the whole on the BBC machine and to an extent other celebs in the know during the 70s and 80s knew what Saville was but did nothing. Louis should have pushed Saville more but didn't.

[@thelucentcrow9084]

I liked Louis always watched his documentary’s but he’s part of it he knew exactly what’s was going on and probably see it, when he revisited the saville doc he made, they then said oh look at jimmy abusing a young girl behind us and we just see the video and realised he was grabbing a girl in a restaurant, oh yeah you never noticed.

[@janeslater8004]

Louis knew they all did. Remember johnny lydon saying it on bbc in 1978.so if he knew they all did

[@ForceFreeTrainergirl06]

I really don't understand how Louis could possibly say he thought Saville was "an alright guy" and that he rather liked him. For me from the start I always found him creepy and nasty and there was always something "un-right" about him. Thousands of other people like me felt the same way, and we aren't even investigative journalists who are supposed to be savvy and worldly wise. So in that regard I think Theroux was being remarkably naive to say what he did in this interview.

[@annother3350]

Why are they doing everything to stop us seeing the footage?!

[@twogitsinacar4811]

The Edinburgh TV Festival did not have permission to show the clip publicly, i.e here. That clip will be owned by someone and the licence they got for it was for a specified audience NOT YT

[@Ettibridget]

As I'm not british, I had never heard of this Jimmy Savile before (did know about Rolf Harris though). And I'm sorry to say that the scandal about him made him famous way outside Britain. I have watched all documentaries about the Jimmy Savile case and have a strange feeling of him sitting somewhere puffing his cigar: "Ha! I fooled all of ya!'"

[@noelmoran790]

She's rattled you Louis ,you're waffling.

[@JD-xn4ls]

He’s not rattled, this is how Louis talks

[@noelmoran790]

I heard about Savill in1964 in Manchester.Some other mods I met up there in Picadilly told me he had a club called the ' Roof Top ' or something and he was bang at it.

[@jlew9805]

The BBC knew about Savile. I wonder how LT feels about the fact that they potentially used him for propaganda. Although I’m not sure I believe he didn’t know. I’ve gone right off him now. I can feel the insincerity.

[@thomas-ud1fs]

What do you mean "I've gone right off him now"?

[@gailshore8540]

How can you say that?! Louis is a man of the utmost integrity

[@timtec3000]

He has to watch what he says.

[@jlew9805]

Sure. And they honestly just lost the folder of research Jill did on Saville, just before she was shot and killed.

[@markdavids2511]

Salmonfaky of course the BBC knew, everyone in that organisation knew, I’ve not paid for a TV licence for over 10 years now.

[@nazirkhalifa5377]

I wrote to Jimmy Fix it, never got back, how lucky was that.

[@ForestOfMyDreams]

Wrote 3 times myself... :( But I heard he only responded if you included a photo... hmmm...

[@jimmylove7760]

FUCK me... no don't. ... I remember the day I posted him a letter into the box at the end of the street and my mam watched me all the way from a distance. She used to tell me about strange men........I was sending mail to the strangest. .... the irony.

[@noellynch1094]

my relative bought Saviles old motor home, you could feel the evil in there, and I knew nothing of Savile at the time

[@colincharlton9339]

He had powerful friends, Saville was 100% confident, he must have said...if i go to court /jail..i will name,names

[@99ron30]

Even if you didn't know or think Saville was an evil abuser, to develop friendly feelings towards such a bizarre and not at all likeable person is pretty odd.

[@annother3350]

To me it was probably like having a bit of banter with the weird old guy in the corner of the pub. He's missing one eye and most of his teeth and talks a load of nonsense but you have some kind of friendly repartee or banter when you go to the bar

[@sammycinnamon7300]

Thats exactly what I thought. How would anyone befriend this nutjob. His happiest time was the 5 days spent with his dead mum ffs! And even after this revelation and seeing the "shrine" to his mum, he still likes him? Come on. Asides that, just the way he speaks and acts is vile. Louis is balls deep in this shit and the way he's acting on this video confirms it.

[@zxbc1]

But that's sort of Louis job - to develop rapport with strange people and try to discover something interesting about them. He's done that all his career and that's served him for most subjects. The fact that it didn't work for Jimmy Saville speaks more about Saville than Louis.

[@alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361]

..both masons .................

[@amandaroberts1222]

Jimmy groomed him,just like everyone else

[@trippymchippy8586]

Interviewer : "Are you over talking about Jimmy Savile?" Theroux: {commence sweating}

[@bigbowlowrong4694]

What exactly are you implying? I’m seeing lots of comments like yours implying some form of bad faith on Theroux’s part but what did he do wrong, in your opinion? In my view his interactions with Saville followed the exact same trajectory as with basically everyone else he interviews. Are people mad at him for not chaining Saville to an interrogation table, bringing out a cattle prod and some pliers and exacting a confession? Let’s pretend for a second that Louis came into this by immediately grilling Saville about the rumours (which is what they were at the time) - how long do you think that interview would have lasted?

[@trippymchippy8586]

@@bigbowlowrong4694 Let's just say he has BBC links. He knew what was going on. As did all. They were well beyond rumour. He still used Savile to climb the dark ladder.

[@tw7286]

Wow.. at some points louis talks about Saville, the same way Prince andrew spoke of epstien

[@garry1004]

Link to the clip they couldn't show?

[@anthonybowers7571]

Michael Jackson also is the name of the British Army (General ?) who admitted that putting troops in Northern Ireland was a mistake .ps I bet half the people dissing L Theroux here , still watch BBC

[@gloria3098]

it wasn't general jackson who put troops into NI i know because I was at the decision.

[@anthonybowers7571]

@@gloria3098 I did not write that he put the troops in ..

[@tackleberry357]

What annoys me is that rightly so the BBC doesn't play Jimmy Savile, Gary Glitter or Rolf Harris however they still think it acceptable to play Michael Jackson, is it just me that thinks that's wrong?

[@matrix2297]

Michael was not a pedophile and he can never be called one just because people refuse to believe he was a good man. He was found not guilty on all charges. Do you honestly believe that with all that malice he wouldn't leave a shred of evidence behind? Nothing that 80 FBI agents couldn't find? That's really rendering him an evil genius of mastermind proportions.

[@anthonymorgan6255]

I have worked with many journalists in the news industry. My role was advertising sales rep. I found that most of them had no sense of reality and would wish a story rather than write the evident. They came across as both naieve and a bit narcissistic. Louis reminds of that. Too clever to see what others spot a mile away (especially sales people).

[@kierand9410]

I really don’t believe Theroux has the journalistic chops people think he does.

[@pabrennan6877]

Why the blank elements- Is the BBC still controlling output?

[@vo4068]

Proof journalism is dead.

[@matrix2297]

People are only learning that journalism was never really about truth, but about control.

[@vo4068]

@@matrix2297 Hi, I think it’s simpler than than, it’s about earning a living, putting a roof over your head & food in your belly. This is why they write & talk the rubbish that they do, they know where their bread is buttered!

[@matrix2297]

@@vo4068 Respectfully I disagree. Employees fulfil the standards imposed on them by their employers not by consumers....these institutions run top down, if the truth as an extraction of empirical evidence (which the West lauds as God) is the ultimate aim of journalism in a broad sense, then "whatever sells" wouldn't be the departure line that gives articles the go-ahead. I'm not talking about trashy tabloid crap (which should be illegal frankly), but reputable news conglomerates that claim to be pillars of democracy and truth regardless of whether the public like it or not.

[@vo4068]

@@matrix2297 Hi Matrix, I can only apologise, this comment was entered on this site by MY mistake. I look at KZbin, we’re there are many vids. on the same subject I copy & paste my comment on some of them & did this in error. I watched Louis with Joe Rogan & it was very good. Incidentally I do think journalism is dead & taken over by a left wing, woke, msm, but this was not an example. Take care.

[@vo4068]

@@matrix2297 Hi Matrix, I can only apologise, this comment was entered on this site by MY mistake. I look at KZbin, we’re there are many vids. on the same subject I copy & paste my comment on some of them & did this in error. I watched Louis with Joe Rogan & it was very good. Incidentally I do think journalism is dead & taken over by a left wing, woke, msm, but this was not an example. Take care.

[@danielmarshall4587]

Praise be for Louis Theroux, and this is a glorious interview.

[@matimus100]

Nonsense

[@PatrickFDolan]

Balls

[@alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361]

...Never praise a pedophile . . . !!!!

[@Spearsy1995]

Much respect to Louis - he admits to be totally taken in by Saville and questions how he missed it

[@alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361]

bollocks .. .

[@sirandrelefaedelinoge]

When Louis turned up to plug his own book...

[@seanp8220]

Louis clearly will be haunted by this for the rest of his life.

[@tonyjones6062]

I went off Uncle Jimmy when he never answered my fix it letter,asking to meet the bionic man.🙂

[@loclnor]

He never answered mine either - I consider it a lucky escape.

[@cannypal]

How close were Saville & Prince Andrew? I genuinely don't know, but it feels like the royal protection was applied through the BBC.

[@JernauMoratGurgeh]

Louis' feelings about Saville have clouded his judgement on Michael Jackson, that doc was a sham.