Love & Hip Hop Atlanta: Racism, Colorism, and the Uncomfortable Truth

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@nigerian_queeen
@nigerian_queeen Жыл бұрын
When Spice said “I can’t trigger you to become racist” a word was said!!
@deej5608
@deej5608 Жыл бұрын
THAT PART
@vikkiholmes603
@vikkiholmes603 Жыл бұрын
Spice azz is not a victim y’all need to stop
@iamsunflower2011
@iamsunflower2011 Жыл бұрын
​@@vikkiholmes603do you think she's saying that she's a victim? This is bigger than her
@lovely100
@lovely100 Жыл бұрын
🙄🙄 some people needs to be educated a little more
@isatugetaweh8279
@isatugetaweh8279 Жыл бұрын
@@vikkiholmes603you need some black history education in your life.
@dani58920
@dani58920 Жыл бұрын
“I can’t trigger you to be a racist” this needs to be on a billboard, a shirt, books or any type a support that will allow the masses see and deeply understand these words
@MizzButtafucco81
@MizzButtafucco81 Жыл бұрын
Im with you on this I now want to get the shirt made with the color blacK
@reresmith945
@reresmith945 Жыл бұрын
Yessssss!!!
@rashemaferguson4649
@rashemaferguson4649 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@letherasweeting2413
@letherasweeting2413 Жыл бұрын
I agree
@2Tones22
@2Tones22 Жыл бұрын
I'm with you. How you triggering racism out of someone, you just been racist and your truth came out in the moment of anger. disgusting.
@GiGiChosen
@GiGiChosen Жыл бұрын
Self-Hate is real. The amount of black women defending NON-BLACK Erica and blaming the producers for “airing” it, but not holding Erica accountable for saying her RACIST words is disturbing. Erica has used this term many times many times: Stevie J, Johnni Blaze and club promoters. She needs to be held accountable. Not only should she not be on the “next season” she needs to be permanently banned. Don’t argue with me, argue with yourself. I SAID WHAT I SAID.
@amyernst985
@amyernst985 Жыл бұрын
Curious: so calling a fat person “pig” or ugly person “donkey” is similar to using the word “monkey”? I’m just curious what ppl are feeling…. 🤔
@GiGiChosen
@GiGiChosen Жыл бұрын
@@amyernst985do those have racial implications? Please sit this one out and hop off my comment.
@bgstv10001
@bgstv10001 Жыл бұрын
​@@amyernst985you really can't be serious.
@ashleeniscozy
@ashleeniscozy Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this comments
@alnisacoleman6004
@alnisacoleman6004 Жыл бұрын
💯
@qunique1
@qunique1 Жыл бұрын
Yandy was looking to excuse Erica but Joc stopped her. I loved that moment. We as black people always give grace to others but never for our own!
@brandonwilliams5526
@brandonwilliams5526 6 ай бұрын
So disgusting.
@OhYessirrr
@OhYessirrr Жыл бұрын
This round table is literally the most responsible thing this show and it’s producers have ever put on after all these years. Well done.
@CharisMaggieTV
@CharisMaggieTV Жыл бұрын
Right?!!! Lol
@kmeeks92987
@kmeeks92987 Жыл бұрын
EVER
@Rae_Naeee
@Rae_Naeee Жыл бұрын
Facts
@saneishamccoy7212
@saneishamccoy7212 Жыл бұрын
It was
@s.r6331
@s.r6331 Жыл бұрын
This was so overdue its sad that they're using Erica's ignorance to do this.
@tracy-annbennett1072
@tracy-annbennett1072 Жыл бұрын
Joc said it right. Shes in the culture long enough to know. 🎯 She knew exactly what she said. Liar liar Erica
@therealj.7084
@therealj.7084 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, joc wasn’t having that!
@Tsy20000
@Tsy20000 Жыл бұрын
Exactly like these colorist and racist people are crazy in the comments
@iluvhotmoms.
@iluvhotmoms. Жыл бұрын
Joc was speaking facts through the whole video!!
@tracy-annbennett1072
@tracy-annbennett1072 Жыл бұрын
Erica was mad Safaree was closer to Spice than he was to her. I think Erica started thinking and comparing herself to Spice. The rest is history.😊
@chrissypacheco9635
@chrissypacheco9635 Жыл бұрын
​@@tracy-annbennett1072Yes, exactly what I been saying
@DelicatesofLife
@DelicatesofLife Жыл бұрын
If this was the Jewish community it would be NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT...SHE WOULD BE DONE PERIOD. BLACK FOLK NEED TO STAND ON THE SAME THING
@GiGiChosen
@GiGiChosen Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@just_simply
@just_simply Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@ShekelaPerry
@ShekelaPerry Жыл бұрын
Definitely I wrk with Jews and they definitely big on respect and culture
@SunshineKK99
@SunshineKK99 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, Black people have short memories.
@KBClive
@KBClive Жыл бұрын
Speak on it.
@winnybrou4986
@winnybrou4986 Жыл бұрын
“You can't just apologize because your pocket is being affected” wow Spice, well said!. We should no longer accept excuses. The best way to punish racists is to attack the money that feeds them. This is more impactful and powerful.
@cynthiadavis9917
@cynthiadavis9917 Жыл бұрын
Erica DOES know the history, that's why SHE said it!
@valeo3508
@valeo3508 Жыл бұрын
That's what I'm saying,why are some capeing for her
@authenticityonly3
@authenticityonly3 Жыл бұрын
@@valeo3508 Self hate sad case smh
@deidrebailey9722
@deidrebailey9722 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! She always thinks she’s better than black people. She is known for doing it! There is nothing to justify her actions. Spice was wrong but Erica hurt a whole group of people with those words
@FijiMatic
@FijiMatic Жыл бұрын
She definitely knows and dont care. I read somewhere that she called Stevie J and Jhonnie Blaze monkeys too on the show with no consequences.
@Lyricgrayce
@Lyricgrayce Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@ENtelevisiom
@ENtelevisiom Жыл бұрын
Yandy saying she didn’t think Erica understood what she was saying and then trying to check Scrappy makes no sense. Joc was right, Erica knew what she was saying was racist.
@yurigarcia-lr9wk
@yurigarcia-lr9wk Жыл бұрын
Yandy is always lying
@Lyricgrayce
@Lyricgrayce Жыл бұрын
That was nuts
@user-ip5fm3ck4p
@user-ip5fm3ck4p Жыл бұрын
Joc didn't let her finish. She was going somewhere. I am NOT a Yandy fan but I see what she was doing.
@nickylnr
@nickylnr Жыл бұрын
Y'all didn't listen...she said when she heard she was saying to no way she said that she must not know..but when she spoke to Erica she realised that Erica knew exactly what she was saying
@iamwalkingbyfaith
@iamwalkingbyfaith Жыл бұрын
@@nickylnras usual there re those who either don’t listen well or don’t comprehend well, but Yandy did not take up for Erica. Glad you understood what she meant.
@ashi4274
@ashi4274 Жыл бұрын
Y’all should’ve had Amara here to discuss Veronica Vega doing the same thing while the entire black cast justified and rode for Veronica.
@Poeticfloetic
@Poeticfloetic Жыл бұрын
Including Trina the Bassett Hound.
@PthePoet
@PthePoet Жыл бұрын
No amara could stay her ass at home
@erikabrock2742
@erikabrock2742 Жыл бұрын
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@Tatiana-hp4xp
@Tatiana-hp4xp Жыл бұрын
They choice to ride with who they want to ride with
@girlpower1350
@girlpower1350 Жыл бұрын
​. and Big Belly trick 😂😂😂
@nonameismypreference8542
@nonameismypreference8542 Жыл бұрын
This host deserves flowers. Amazing control, flow, conversation topics and dynamics. Truly appreciated
@iamv482
@iamv482 8 ай бұрын
Exactly she did it with grace and class. Thank you to her for having this discussion for young black girls, and to all the cast members 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆👑💃🏿.
@dasiareed2708
@dasiareed2708 Жыл бұрын
Y’all this isn’t Erica first time using the word monkey she definitely knows what the word means
@thatbeaatcch9884
@thatbeaatcch9884 Жыл бұрын
As a Latina, she sure does
@mykoniichistorychannel
@mykoniichistorychannel Жыл бұрын
100%. Her looks shielded her from the repercussions of her bitchcraft, and now it’s time to pay.
@laurasayas5650
@laurasayas5650 Жыл бұрын
Yandi called Peter and amina monkeys season 4 episode 7...my question is is it ok if it's withing the same race...its confusing...erica was totally wrong
@LeshaFBaby
@LeshaFBaby Жыл бұрын
​​​@@laurasayas5650 I missed that..and it had nothing to do with how they used to yell and communicate🤔
@KewanaNedd
@KewanaNedd Жыл бұрын
Erica is annoying to me since the beginning
@jessicalozama512
@jessicalozama512 Жыл бұрын
the fact that Erica laughed when Yandy said she was offended shows out of touch she is! she is RACIST and she shows it in this clip. im glad they showed her for who she is!
@suavehinrg
@suavehinrg Жыл бұрын
Totally! To think I felt sorry for her before this, as a Black man. Sorry no more!
@mariehernaiz932
@mariehernaiz932 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad Erica Mena won’t be back in the next season
@The_fun_fam
@The_fun_fam Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but yandy is a waste of space she doesn’t let her man having his family’s in peace cause she’s crazy
@Bigghaze
@Bigghaze Жыл бұрын
Exactly. She wonder why she wasn't in the sit down
@cathrynglenn3568
@cathrynglenn3568 Жыл бұрын
Maybe Latinos feel superior over people who are darker I remember being at a park and hearing 2 Latinos say don't mess with black Puerto Ricans and they also put down Mexicans that are darker
@josephineshaba9539
@josephineshaba9539 Жыл бұрын
Everytime Joc opened his mouth he said something of substance. 🤝🏾👏🏾
@Jay-bs4uc
@Jay-bs4uc Жыл бұрын
I liked his point of view and how they explained it !
@katjackson9350
@katjackson9350 Жыл бұрын
I wish they didn't cut him off and let him speak. He was dropping gems in his counter arguments, but they weren't receptive.
@misssimon2943
@misssimon2943 Жыл бұрын
Joc is an radio personality and speaker
@josephineshaba9539
@josephineshaba9539 Жыл бұрын
@@katjackson9350 I found myself shouting ‘ yesss ‘ everytime he made a point.
@michellerolle7632
@michellerolle7632 Жыл бұрын
Who knew that JOC had this whole other side I am so impressed he made made so much sense and he is passionate about this topic
@dancingeyes8601
@dancingeyes8601 Жыл бұрын
This discussion gave me an entirely new respect for Scrappy and Joc. They made very good points, they listened, and their perspectives were very necessary and enlightening. The show doesn't display the cast's intelligence enough, I hope to see more of it going forward.
@AJayB89
@AJayB89 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE how she broke down the definitions of racism, prejudice, & colorism.
@teirracook4695
@teirracook4695 Жыл бұрын
This was a great conversation. When spice said I can’t trigger you into being a racist that was the end of the conversation for me.
@yayadolmo
@yayadolmo Жыл бұрын
Mic 🎤 drop moment
@DelicatesofLife
@DelicatesofLife Жыл бұрын
Joc example was a perfect EXAMPLE of colorism amongst black people
@career5690
@career5690 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Black men like Joe Budden are colorist.
@mekasims1981
@mekasims1981 Жыл бұрын
And wen spice said she reveal a racists
@nyashwade2560
@nyashwade2560 Жыл бұрын
I wish they would’ve stopped cutting him off
@mekasims1981
@mekasims1981 Жыл бұрын
@@nyashwade2560 ikr they was doin good at first
@Donique_23
@Donique_23 Жыл бұрын
Yea that was great, my answer to that is we busy, and are colorful bei hs we just like different styles and like to switch our hairstyles up. That's all it is for me.
@tyshawnagibson1839
@tyshawnagibson1839 Жыл бұрын
The fact that she call her a monkey so quick and easy can show and tell you how many times she thought it or said it behind her back. Her reaction to spice comments was brewing more likely from the time she sat down.
@TinaCarey123
@TinaCarey123 Жыл бұрын
Girl, shut up.
@brandonwilliams5526
@brandonwilliams5526 7 ай бұрын
It shows how uneducated Erica is when it comes to black culture due to her self righteous self righteous narcissistic self absorbed tendencies.
@carol2sweets928
@carol2sweets928 4 ай бұрын
You're speaking facts there, it always bothered me as a white woman also that she would always use the N word on the show too so often. Like why did no1 ever pull her on that.
@ckay4469
@ckay4469 Жыл бұрын
Black people as a whole, didn’t start the colorism war. But also as black people, we keep it up and it’s so disheartening and disgusting to see. We have to come together and do better
@kathleencox3961
@kathleencox3961 Жыл бұрын
👏🏾💯
@anitahensley599
@anitahensley599 Жыл бұрын
@patrinajasso5689
@patrinajasso5689 Жыл бұрын
Yap.....
@carmelcapricorn7701
@carmelcapricorn7701 Жыл бұрын
FACTS.
@BriaBarrows
@BriaBarrows Жыл бұрын
Definitely. Slavery and trauma truly effed up our community
@EnjoyMyJurnee
@EnjoyMyJurnee Жыл бұрын
Exactly what Joc said!!! They want us to educate her because maybe she “doesn’t know” what the slur means. She DEFINITELY knew what she was saying!!! She’s too immersed in our culture to not know!! Like she said out of her own mouth, she wanted to violate her. WE DO NOT need to teach anyone how to treat us. We’re the only race that does this.
@Courtneyyyyyyyy
@Courtneyyyyyyyy Жыл бұрын
This!! Joc really showed up when he said that!
@questionresearch8721
@questionresearch8721 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Joc. He is so right about this.
@w1lsons482
@w1lsons482 Жыл бұрын
🎯🎯💯💯
@dianereynolds3327
@dianereynolds3327 Жыл бұрын
The only race that does this what is this what do we do
@kimcakes94
@kimcakes94 Жыл бұрын
She definitely knows how deep it cuts! She thinks it's just water under a bridge! No the phuck it is & for her to comment like "this is 2023 get over what happened 400 years ago"! That's not how life work🤦🏽‍♀️
@KikiSoFlyy
@KikiSoFlyy Жыл бұрын
Yandy and Spice brought so many good points to this discussion!! Intelligent women!!
@charlies_angels3496
@charlies_angels3496 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@TeeBabyXOXO
@TeeBabyXOXO Жыл бұрын
Definitely!
@Kesh41
@Kesh41 Жыл бұрын
PERIODT ♓ GANG GANG💯💯💯
@mofun5315
@mofun5315 Жыл бұрын
Joc made the best points but they tried to talk over him because he was holding them accountable.
@MrsWalker-jt2uu
@MrsWalker-jt2uu Жыл бұрын
This discussion was necessary for our black culture and how each color tones within our culture are treated. Also, "They come after our black men and have black children, but think they are superior".
@CANDYSOULonline
@CANDYSOULonline Жыл бұрын
JOC is soooooo intelligent! He needs to ALWAYS be apart of any discussion!
@fatwp6345
@fatwp6345 Жыл бұрын
Yes. His point about the N word being just as off limits as the monkey slur was nothing but facts and Black people need to apply that same energy with the use of the N word to their Hispanic friends.
@serena21217
@serena21217 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@fatwp6345this is same thing I’ve been saying. It’s no different but no one is mentioning that thou
@romantherger3518
@romantherger3518 Жыл бұрын
@@fatwp6345 As a black South African, the N-word has gained a lot of traction in my country. I don't use the word because stand with the African brothers, sisters, people in the Americas, what is your opinion on non-African American black people using the N-word? What is your opinion non-black in South Africa (as we call them Coloureds, who are similiar to the Latinx community. more mixed though) using the N-word. ( this question doesn't include white people in South Africa)
@tcrump212IsLmbrJck_t
@tcrump212IsLmbrJck_t Жыл бұрын
But not Scrap. No shade.
@sumaiyyaht
@sumaiyyaht Жыл бұрын
Preach sis, was looking for this comment!!!!
@patriciamazzeo6245
@patriciamazzeo6245 Жыл бұрын
Why it took so long for them to realize Erica Mena was racist is beyond me. If you were truly paying attention, you knew she was racist from day one. She always thought of herself as better than any of those sisters.
@cierramiller4256
@cierramiller4256 Жыл бұрын
That is a very good question!!!! This is not Erica first time and definitely won’t be her last .
@ItsMrstoyouboo
@ItsMrstoyouboo Жыл бұрын
That's why I'm rolling my eyes at this ish They literally wanna save face now.
@rnshawn1925
@rnshawn1925 Жыл бұрын
Most Spanish women think they are better than black women
@natnathello
@natnathello Жыл бұрын
They already knew how Erica was. Erica is their entertainment. She is a cash cow for them. I would not be surprised if other cast members used racial slurs, but they did not air it out. I am very happy that they have this round table to educate, but for me personally, I think it’s bullshit. Again, they already know what time it is with Erica, but they continue to let her get away with murder. It’s only because of the backlash so really and truly it was not genuine and the entire cast knows about it they know about the platform they know that it’s hypocritical, but money is coming in and that’s all that matters.
@janlacy3239
@janlacy3239 Жыл бұрын
@@natnathello True! She will be back and she won't change a thing!!
@ohsnap8572
@ohsnap8572 Жыл бұрын
Sooooo proud of love and hip hop for doing this. Colorism is a GENERATIONAL CURSE throughout the world. My grandma was literally alive during British colonialism. We need to evolve. That’s it
@astridediva
@astridediva Жыл бұрын
As a 16 year old, hearing Erica Mena calling a beautiful black woman “monkey” and making monkey sounds was very hurtful 😢 . I’m happy she’s no longer part of the show ❤❤❤❤ my friends and I want to thank you
@Labia340
@Labia340 8 ай бұрын
Awww🙏🏾🙏🏾
@devion7709
@devion7709 Жыл бұрын
The fact that YANDY tried to educate her and try to tell her what she said was wrong and the fact that she didn’t even try to listen or take accountability for her actions, told me everything i need to know about Erica mangy ass
@janlacy3239
@janlacy3239 Жыл бұрын
I always knew she was a dirty individual, but she had me back when she with Richie Dollas! She really hated that Olivia got "her" song as she called it!!
@pictureperfectlashstudio6771
@pictureperfectlashstudio6771 Жыл бұрын
It's the description of "mangy" for me🤣🤣🤣
@iamstarrqualitylegacy1249
@iamstarrqualitylegacy1249 Жыл бұрын
Did she tell spice she was wrong too. Both woman are wrong.
@jazdj04
@jazdj04 Жыл бұрын
@@iamstarrqualitylegacy1249 are you serious? Spice insulted Erica as an individual. Erica insulted a race of ppl. Do you have kids? Let's say your kid gets into an argument w a non blk classmate and your kid says "that's what your momma left you". The nonblk kids replies with "that's why you are a gger!" Would that sit right w you?
@alphonsowhite6348
@alphonsowhite6348 Жыл бұрын
​​@iamstarrqualitylegacy1249 I think you miss the point 🤡 🤦 spice didn't do NOTHING
@VictoriaLewis-CWOQueen
@VictoriaLewis-CWOQueen Жыл бұрын
When Spice said, “At the end of the day, no matter what anyone else say, I came out as the winner because I revealed a racist” that shit gave me the chills👏🏾👏🏾
@unclehowdeydivein
@unclehowdeydivein Жыл бұрын
Nobody won spice needs to be held accountable for talking about erica son
@mrspatilla85
@mrspatilla85 Жыл бұрын
Right?!?!?!? Like She brought up her son!
@VictoriaLewis-CWOQueen
@VictoriaLewis-CWOQueen Жыл бұрын
@@unclehowdeydivein Your comment let's me know you didn't watch the whole video. If you watched the WHOLE video she took accountability. But either way she DIDN’T TALK ABOUT HER SON, SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT HER PARENTING!!!!! Why can't y'all get that through y'all small ass brain? If you watched the video they talked about that. They even showed the video of Scrappy talking about Erica’s parenting and she didn't call him a monkey. And she can't talk about anybody. Because out of all the cast members Erica comes for almost everybody's parenting skills. So what makes her different when they come for hers? Seeing the scene with Scrappy and compare it to Spice it let's me know no matter how mad Erica gets she still has her common sense when she argues, she knew exactly what she did and said.
@VictoriaLewis-CWOQueen
@VictoriaLewis-CWOQueen Жыл бұрын
@@mrspatilla85 like I told the other dude, SHE DIDN’T TALK ABOUT HER SON SHE TALKED ABOUT HER PARENTING!!!!! And if you go back and watch many other episodes Erica is the main one that always come for other people's parenting. So let me ask you a question. What makes it different for Erica talking about other people's parenting skills verses Spice talking about Erica’s parenting skills?
@mrspatilla85
@mrspatilla85 Жыл бұрын
​@Vicky-98 it's a huge conversion about Erica Mena in general but about this particular subject...once u bring up kids, parenting... all bets are off. Which is why children, parents, family related is off limits... Erica calling Spice a monkey wasn't being racist. Spice is no victim. (In my opinion)..Erica thinks Spice is not an attractive female, who looks ridiculous with that horrible blue wig, and resembles a monkey, and in the heat of the moment, called her a monkey. In Retaliation for bringing up her son not liking her.
@ShareBearChelle
@ShareBearChelle Жыл бұрын
Love how Spice took accountability for her anger and said she was gonna work on it. Growth is the goal.
@crystalclear7550
@crystalclear7550 Жыл бұрын
Only Dark Skin are expected to do that though
@trellytheebraider
@trellytheebraider Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯💯💯💯
@YforYanny
@YforYanny Жыл бұрын
THIS!!!
@MoiraPraline
@MoiraPraline Жыл бұрын
She ain’t gonna do sh!t.., she’s been saying that for years😂
@brandonwilliams5526
@brandonwilliams5526 7 ай бұрын
Cause Spice is a real one and Erica is a fake one and a narcissist sociopath that has no remorse compassion or care about there actions or comments.
@TerryBerry-up7vf
@TerryBerry-up7vf Жыл бұрын
As a black Jamaican woman,I feel for Spice.She did not deserve such harsh words towards her . Love the conversation.I love you my poeple 😢😢😢.
@lakieshajackson3264
@lakieshajackson3264 Жыл бұрын
And WE love you back!!! I love my people 🫶🏽
@LacreshiaVillavicencio
@LacreshiaVillavicencio Жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the coffin its the fact that she has had numerous times to put her foot in her mouth and she didn’t she even said its a choice for black people to be offended it sounds like she had a black friend in her ear .. and that makes me even sadder .. i wish and hope the future is brighter for us to stand up for one another
@pinkversace187
@pinkversace187 Жыл бұрын
And she shouldn’t have talked about about people children I don’t feel bad for spice at all.
@annoyingtbh420
@annoyingtbh420 8 ай бұрын
@@pinkversace187ok girl 🤣
@brandonwilliams5526
@brandonwilliams5526 7 ай бұрын
I to come from a Jamaican background born Canadian and has been a victim to racism as well as a boy and with the strength of God's love grace beauty mercy and courage rose above all that and stand strong as a beautiful black man who wears his heart on his sleave and tries to be the best brother and Uncle to my nieces and nephews bringing good change to this world.
@lateish9944
@lateish9944 Жыл бұрын
As a conscious, Black woman that wears her natural hair, I was very pleased with this round table discussion. They touched on all the modules, and did not leave anything out. We, as a community have face so much discrimination and racism among this society. This is a wake up call to stop letting other races into the black culture.
@BertaAlvin-wk6qw
@BertaAlvin-wk6qw Жыл бұрын
Absolutely 💯
@tanikapatrick6795
@tanikapatrick6795 Жыл бұрын
This!!
@mchanel.
@mchanel. Жыл бұрын
Fr the wig thing had to be said
@pipedreamism1
@pipedreamism1 Жыл бұрын
Why if u want freedom and respect fight for it
@Claudymaze
@Claudymaze Жыл бұрын
Absolutely I wear locs and it’s felt each day
@nataliking
@nataliking Жыл бұрын
I'm so proud of my Jamaican mama right now. Spice is holding her own. Very articulate.
@veronaldridgesterling
@veronaldridgesterling Жыл бұрын
Same here
@seenamoon5804
@seenamoon5804 Жыл бұрын
DR. Sarah did an amazing job navigating this panel.
@karenbyrd795
@karenbyrd795 Жыл бұрын
Thank God that someone has the courage to discuss "COLORISM" in our society and how it effects awareness and growth in many communities 😢😢😢😢😢
@michelleestelle2443
@michelleestelle2443 Жыл бұрын
This was a good conversation that needed to be aired. Colorism is prevalent in our community.
@BarbaraCurtis
@BarbaraCurtis Жыл бұрын
It brought me to tears watching this, not only because of the racial slur that was used but the fact that we are having a MAJOR conversation on a platform that has been ridiculed for years. I’m so happy to see this platform use its voice to talk about racism/colorism. It was needed for the culture! For this generation. For our people.
@CampbellYA
@CampbellYA Жыл бұрын
“ I can’t trigger you to be racist”. That part 👏🏽
@llv9111
@llv9111 Жыл бұрын
I feel Spice spoke pearls of wisdom along with the rest of cast and I hope this discussion can continue so we can all move forward in a better place in our community. This dialogue was greatly appreciated❤.
@k.simmons862
@k.simmons862 Жыл бұрын
Joc and Scrappy had real points in this discussion that are the real talking points, but so many in our black community don’t want to have that conversation
@bauthentic333
@bauthentic333 Жыл бұрын
1000%%%%
@Stoneshomesandloans
@Stoneshomesandloans Жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion but I agree.
@shantaeherder473
@shantaeherder473 Жыл бұрын
Yessss!! I’m over here like… they are being dismissed!
@reginamartin9968
@reginamartin9968 Жыл бұрын
Facts!!!
@nancyismyname
@nancyismyname Жыл бұрын
They’re both clowns who added nothing of importance to this very serious conversation. Sierra, too.
@neecolegregory7019
@neecolegregory7019 Жыл бұрын
I wish Joc had gotten to speak more because he was making some good counter-points to the statements the others were making. The fact they kept cutting him off is another sign of this inner conflict in Black culture because they never want to show weakeness in front. By not agreeing to the narrative completely, Joc had lost his right to speak uninterrupted, which isn't right.
@nekkwiill218
@nekkwiill218 Жыл бұрын
I agree, Joc as a dark skin man wanted to educate himself on colorism from a black woman’s perspective. Hopefully he can get his time to talk about it.
@natnathello
@natnathello Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!! they don’t want to talk about it!!!!!
@sitayablack7012
@sitayablack7012 Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY! Joc should’ve standed more on his points.
@jmilli0479
@jmilli0479 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Especially when he asking why bw wear blonde hair or contour body parts to look diff to fit in. He was simply sayn bw need to love their natural beauty. Wide or thin noses thick or thin lips etc
@neecolegregory7019
@neecolegregory7019 Жыл бұрын
@jolandamills479 I think he really was going with Spice's "Black hypocrisy" train of thought. Black people want to emulate self-love and stand for our natural beauty, but then they will also chastise another BW's natural hair or darker skin. In the end, we can't help ourselves if we don't love ourselves.
@feline_star
@feline_star Жыл бұрын
I don’t even understand how people can say spice was aggressive when Erice threw a table at her, like what could be more violent and aggressive than that.
@chamekadrake6208
@chamekadrake6208 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, Spice was even calm. She wasn’t yelling. She simply asked her why she was comparing the two of them. She should have followed her first mind, she didn’t want to meet up with her.
@BlasianGoddessTM77
@BlasianGoddessTM77 Жыл бұрын
What’s crazy is, I’m half African American and Filipino. I grew up in the Philippines and I got called monkey (unggoy in Tagalog language). Mind you, Filipinos calling me that. I got made fun of because of my skin color, my hair texture, the way I dressed etc.
@TinaCarey123
@TinaCarey123 Жыл бұрын
Girl, shut up. Nobody cares
@b.schannell747
@b.schannell747 Жыл бұрын
Your black is powerful... Their always mad😂😂 I love it!
@RwachiryoraWema
@RwachiryoraWema 10 ай бұрын
your beautiful mama sorry it happened that way but am not sorry your half black honey your beautiful
@tamaracherry1644
@tamaracherry1644 7 ай бұрын
I have little cousins that share the same races you do and i hope they don't go thru this in the US. Just know and hear me when i say this HAPPY PEOPLE DON'T HATE! They saw something in you they wanted because it was unique and looked of greatness to them. if they were happy with themselves, they wouldn't have made fun of you.
@maciawilliams9760
@maciawilliams9760 5 ай бұрын
Hate you has to go thru this.
@younghurricane1995
@younghurricane1995 Жыл бұрын
As a Black man myself, that's conversations we needed to have and we all African Americans need to be respected and accepted as equal
@Saveusall52
@Saveusall52 Жыл бұрын
I agree, but even in our own community some are not accepted due to color.
@briggie28
@briggie28 Жыл бұрын
​@@Saveusall52From the darkest to the lightest.
@candiedsugarxo4462
@candiedsugarxo4462 Жыл бұрын
Black men should start by truly loving themselves, then passing on that love to uplift black women, and that will trickle down to the children.
@leannedavey1894
@leannedavey1894 Жыл бұрын
We are all equal, never let anyone make you feel less than. You are amazing and strong and beautiful. Never forget this❤
@Saveusall52
@Saveusall52 Жыл бұрын
@@leannedavey1894 thank you! And you’re absolutely right.
@marittiejohnson9374
@marittiejohnson9374 Жыл бұрын
This round table should be aired on every media platform.
@taniekadunn8955
@taniekadunn8955 Жыл бұрын
I'm a darker skin woman and I really loved this sit down. It was so needed.
@porshareid2478
@porshareid2478 Жыл бұрын
Same, dark skin woman too!! this was great topic.
@CaribbeanBornGirl
@CaribbeanBornGirl Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@MultiSexiChocolate
@MultiSexiChocolate Жыл бұрын
absolutely
@vatricegeorge
@vatricegeorge Жыл бұрын
I do not find them being authentic. Like none of them called Rasheed out for calling K Michelle nappy headed.
@reneejackson3328
@reneejackson3328 Жыл бұрын
​@@vatricegeorgeIt's so many instances of racism on this blk platform.
@JamaicanNubianQueen1
@JamaicanNubianQueen1 Жыл бұрын
From one Jamaican to another... Spice (Grace Hamilton), I am so proud of you, girl. Continue on your healing journey and all the best for the future. One love! 🙏🏽💖
@alanice22
@alanice22 Жыл бұрын
‘Sorry’ is not enough to fix what Erica said. She knew exactly what she was saying.
@denise4911
@denise4911 Жыл бұрын
For every saying they dragging this, Erica NEEDS to be dragged after years of using racial slurs and getting away with it💯💯 Im so proud of the cast for not giving her a pass🙌🏾🙌🏾
@Queenofpentacles1
@Queenofpentacles1 Жыл бұрын
Yes !!
@rhiannisa9722
@rhiannisa9722 Жыл бұрын
Speak your speech!!!
@markelabanks4808
@markelabanks4808 Жыл бұрын
Gotta keep your foot on their necks!
@detroit313diiiiva9
@detroit313diiiiva9 Жыл бұрын
WELL SAID 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯💯💯💯💯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
@datchickshortyrock
@datchickshortyrock Жыл бұрын
Yandy Smith called Erica Mena a Monk3y 5 times on Ebro Hot 97 interview May 22, 2015 8 years ago. GOOGLE IT! 😂😂 They all call each other Monk3y A$$ H03, A$$ Monk3y & Everything else. This some Bull 💩 Stevie J called Mimi & her friends $lut Monk3y’s. Ahkbar called chicks Monk3y A$$ H03. They are intentionally poking at Erica Mena after allowing ppl to disrespect her child & bring him up year after year
@ashj0
@ashj0 Жыл бұрын
I'm white AF and the thought of going racial when disagreeing with someone has NEVER crossed my mind! Even sitting and stewing in my thoughts afterward, it is still not something I even thought about. It's fucking sad. At first, I only heard she called her a blue monkey and thought maybe it was exaggerated and taken out of context, but then I saw the whole clip and her making the monkey noises.... It wasn't exaggerated or taken out of context. Erica meant exactly what she said. Erica has done some wild shit during her stint on the show, but she finally went way too far and she's now reaping what she sowed. Unfortunately for her, she's planted nothing but negativity and hate so she's getting all the karma for it now.
@tamekaherron4912
@tamekaherron4912 Жыл бұрын
Thank you @ashj0 for your comment. I think the people that are defending her are missing this exact point. Thank You, Thank You!
@jeanandre6998
@jeanandre6998 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!! I didn’t see the whole clip. The monkey noises and gestures are crazy
@mzsbrown2844
@mzsbrown2844 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. You have more common sense than these self hating black people who are trying to defend this mess.
@g.t.7550
@g.t.7550 Жыл бұрын
That's just it, as a black woman, it has never crossed my mind to call my own ppl or another race something dehumanizing or attack the things they cannot change. When I get to that level of anger and it is no longer a conversation, I table it until we are both in a better mindset.
@veronicacousin3191
@veronicacousin3191 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. And the colorism shows so greatly in entertainment. Because she is lighter skinned, she has been able to skirt by for so long. She has said some really low and mean things and acted a fool right in front of us for YEARS!
@ms.wilson6439
@ms.wilson6439 Жыл бұрын
LOVE THAT JOC BROUGHT UP THE HAIR AND CONTOUR. Kept it real.
@Ms.Sunrise
@Ms.Sunrise Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad this conversation was televised. I’ve experienced colorism in my own family
@dejorareason2823
@dejorareason2823 Жыл бұрын
Same I had someone say black hair isn't good hair cause it's nappy 😢
@dejorareason2823
@dejorareason2823 Жыл бұрын
Imma be real it was my dad it had me thinking black wasn't good enough I started to hate myself
@Ms.Sunrise
@Ms.Sunrise Жыл бұрын
For context, I’m only 2 generation born off the Poplar Grove plantation in Louisiana. My mom and grandma and other family members gravitated to my lil sister because of her light skin complexion. The kids in the neighborhood called me Cinderella because I was always cleaning and sweeping while my sister played and laughed at the whole situation.
@teeburdtalks
@teeburdtalks Жыл бұрын
Me too! Had an argument with one of my light skin cousin side of the family about this. This was in my mom generation I heard of it starting. It's a shame the division in blk families! The root cause is rac!sm dated back to slavery. It's noted how division happened in the Willie Lynch letter.
@jessicamarie2996
@jessicamarie2996 Жыл бұрын
Same here sis
@kristineb1707
@kristineb1707 Жыл бұрын
I cried off this video, bc it so real. I love all my people. I agree with Amy when youuu come for one you come for us all. This is a lesson learned. “I can’t trigger youuu to become racist”
@crystalclear7550
@crystalclear7550 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, Erica didnt want to admit that she offended people across the globe
@rosegrant2518
@rosegrant2518 Жыл бұрын
make me cry too 😢
@daughterofeveandhateroflil2683
@daughterofeveandhateroflil2683 Жыл бұрын
Same
@tylerjrobinn
@tylerjrobinn Жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine how Spice feels to know not only being called a monkey but also someone telling you that you should’ve died? That’s so hurtful especially when you’ve experienced a near death experience. That’s beyond hurtful.
@ellajones4133
@ellajones4133 Жыл бұрын
😢 I totally agree you don't wish death upon no one 🙏🏾
@lizjac.j1335
@lizjac.j1335 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely your right..?!😮where in that instance would Erica wish another woman or mother ☠️ Dead…? Dead on the operating table..? That’s so toxic and unacceptable on all levels..?
@lkez2
@lkez2 Жыл бұрын
The death comment was fair game sorry. You hit low, I hit low too. The only thing that was out of line was the monkey comment, cause now you are offending an entire community.
@groovyli4502
@groovyli4502 Жыл бұрын
@@lkez2Yeah your sick sorry. Wishing death on someone is ridiculous I’m sorry a lot of you are really telling on yourself on this situation
@taliagrisham3010
@taliagrisham3010 Жыл бұрын
@@lkez2Not that low.That’s abysmal
@lynnedaltondalton7466
@lynnedaltondalton7466 Жыл бұрын
A a light skinned African American woman with a beautiful brown skin daughter , I was hurt and very upset by what Erica said . I too seen colorism in my family, whenever a new baby was born the older generation of women will look at the ears and fingers tips . Passed down from generation to generation to see how light or dark the baby will become. I’m so happy I broke that cycle of generation colorism, and ignorance against my own race
@TinaCarey123
@TinaCarey123 Жыл бұрын
Nobody wants a tar baby. Deal with it.
@GodsChild-o8k
@GodsChild-o8k Жыл бұрын
​@@TinaCarey123What a hateful ignorant statement
@Keykiscorner
@Keykiscorner 6 ай бұрын
​@@TinaCarey123Stfu troll you have no life and most likely no friends that's why you waste time under a fake page making hateful comments.
@louisianacookingwithkay
@louisianacookingwithkay Жыл бұрын
I'm sooo glad Joc, Yandy, and Spice were the ones at the table. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 It's the intelligence level to understand the ramifications, not let it roll off your back, not look at it like she was ignorant to it, and not forget about it next week.
@hamptonsfnst2014
@hamptonsfnst2014 Жыл бұрын
I agree with the point Joc was trying to make before Yandy interrupted. We shouldn't be using the N word amongst one another. I put it like this, when the time comes and my soul is reunited with my ancestors I want to be proud that I never assimilated to the culture to use a word that was intended to harm my culture
@robynsmith9114
@robynsmith9114 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see this round table turn into a regular show or podcast. I enjoyed seeing this side of the cast. No mess...just real conversations!❤😊🎉
@tashasturdivant1725
@tashasturdivant1725 Жыл бұрын
Joc is well spoken. I am glad snd proud to see him in a light orher than how we were introduced to him on the show.....THAT'S GROWTH
@blackout7743
@blackout7743 Жыл бұрын
Joc was ready to cook and they just kept interrupting.
@Natural_920
@Natural_920 11 ай бұрын
Why did I just cry! 😕 that clip was horrific! The way Spice dropped her head wow! This was painful 🥹
@brandoniswhoiam
@brandoniswhoiam Жыл бұрын
This could’ve been done during Spice’s own colourism-related storyline that promoted her song called “Black Hypocrisy.”
@Rick-vy1zq
@Rick-vy1zq Жыл бұрын
Exactly they didn’t fill the need to talk about a serious issue and colorism. It didn’t fit the narrative.
@DelicatesofLife
@DelicatesofLife Жыл бұрын
Well now it's a full circle moment for her they thought she was tripping but look what happened
@marcopackie4100
@marcopackie4100 Жыл бұрын
This been going on back in the days too this aint nothing new under the sun
@WestIndianAK
@WestIndianAK Жыл бұрын
@@DelicatesofLifeThey didn’t think she was tripping because they didn’t agree with her basic message. They thought she was tripping because they didn’t realize she was only *pretending* to bleach her skin *temporarily,* and they thought bleaching for real would’ve been a crazy thing for her to do. I think once they all realized it was just part political statement and part publicity stunt, they chilled.
@mysexpressions9604
@mysexpressions9604 Жыл бұрын
@@WestIndianAK Who’s they? ​​⁠ ”They” were definitely tripping because of her basic message. Self hatred is deeply rooted within print and digital media especially within the spaces where these tools are mostly owned and or operated by black men. The passion for choosing women who’s wombs posses the genetic material necessary to wash away that which they hate most about themselves has always been very evident. Whenever an opportunity to prove this theory correct presents itself “They” always rise to the occasion
@elleca3660
@elleca3660 Жыл бұрын
When Erica said it’s 2023 it was almost like she wanted to say why are we still worried about slavery. 🤦🏽‍♀️
@3pmsladiespodcastshow194
@3pmsladiespodcastshow194 Жыл бұрын
Thats exactly what i thought. She makes me sick
@harrisshontrelle
@harrisshontrelle Жыл бұрын
She’s gotten to comfortable with the community and her being aggressive and no one addressing it or us just saying “she crazy or she doesn’t play”. But if you allow a person to talk lonnngg enough you’ll hear their true feelings.
@kizzyv.williams25
@kizzyv.williams25 Жыл бұрын
I caught that too. All of her colors just spilling out everywhere
@trillm6826
@trillm6826 Жыл бұрын
Spice came through with a history lesson. Great roundtable discussion.
@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024
@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 Жыл бұрын
But shouldn’t t have to. It’s disgusting and the worst.
@pipedreamism1
@pipedreamism1 Жыл бұрын
Lmao blk ppl in 2023 have no backbone
@racheljones4561
@racheljones4561 Жыл бұрын
​@@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 huh?
@nikkiemedia
@nikkiemedia Жыл бұрын
I’m here for this conversation! Speak on it! Everything they’ve spoken about I’ve seen an experienced, especially as a dark skinned girl. Being half Jamaican and half Nigerian has taught me a lot.
@susancardoso4364
@susancardoso4364 Жыл бұрын
As an African beautiful woman I’m proud this topic is been discussed and putted down on the table. Enough is enough ✊🏾
@joseeLeroy-gm7ji
@joseeLeroy-gm7ji Жыл бұрын
That's why I hate when people say words Don't hurt. Growing up being a gay man from an urban neighborhood. With so many races Even having dark skinned sister and brother I saw how people would treat us differently. It hurt me .
@neverhungryagain2187
@neverhungryagain2187 Жыл бұрын
@@joseeLeroy-gm7jithis ain’t got nothing to do with gayness
@LuLu-qu3oz
@LuLu-qu3oz Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile you’re watching a show about blacks being problematic & acting like they weren’t raised right and expecting a ‘lesson’ to be taught. The first lesson is..why are you watching this crap? It makes us look horrible
@joseeLeroy-gm7ji
@joseeLeroy-gm7ji Жыл бұрын
@@neverhungryagain2187 did I say it was I meant it as being different from one people don't see things the same as you will say things they don't think are offensive. So sorry if that struck a nerve.
@joseeLeroy-gm7ji
@joseeLeroy-gm7ji Жыл бұрын
@@LuLu-qu3oz why would some one even keep making shows like this and air them on TV . This world is going to crap
@Itsreally_ria
@Itsreally_ria Жыл бұрын
This was probably the best episode of LHHATL I have watched. I am glad to see them address the issues within our community.
@feefs2139
@feefs2139 Жыл бұрын
Oh please this was a set up to cover their asses. Fake woke af.
@LuvMeSunShyne
@LuvMeSunShyne Жыл бұрын
Ever!❤
@Boombasticsideeye_
@Boombasticsideeye_ Жыл бұрын
I think Amara La Negra would’ve been a great addition to this conversation bc her first season she talked about Colorism/Racism she dealt with. Erica could’ve been invited as well, sat down separately.
@Babygurl08
@Babygurl08 Жыл бұрын
Maybe part 2 can be Colorism/Racism within the Latin/Hispanic community. And then, if Erica can control herself, which I highly doubt, she along with Amara La Negra, Juju, Cyn Santana (who else) can be a part of that round table discussion. This one needed to be with black folks only.
@JustMe-ug3mk
@JustMe-ug3mk Жыл бұрын
I don't think Erica should be given anymore platforms. She had an opportunity to hear Yandy out and actually listen in the last episode but she didn't.
@koleyc4714
@koleyc4714 Жыл бұрын
Yea they didnt care much about racism and colorism then. Nobody was outraged then. Only person that backed her was Juju.
@suavesweett
@suavesweett Жыл бұрын
Erica rejected the offer. Says a lot.
@t-babyyupressed2906
@t-babyyupressed2906 Жыл бұрын
Heck Nah Erika Didn’t Need To Be There Period 🤎🤎🤎👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@thatsdaniellelol
@thatsdaniellelol Жыл бұрын
THIS is EVERYTHING!!! I’m VERY excited for the rest of the round tables! Thank Y’all for doing this It is so important and I think it’s going to do a LOT of good for us!!
@80sbabyJuly
@80sbabyJuly Жыл бұрын
The host did a wonderful job with the flow of her questions, answers and general conversation in this episode. Love it!
@lilliebooker5152
@lilliebooker5152 Жыл бұрын
THIS IS FOR PEOPLE JUST PEOPLES WE BLACK PEOPLES AND WHITE PEOPLES HAVE LOST THERE JOBS OVER WORDS THE N WORD other word's TAKING BREAD FROM PEOPLES TABLE...BECAUSE THE WRONG WORD SLIPS OUTAND NO CONCERN FOR THERE KIDS I CAN GIVE MY OPION I CAN NOT CHANGE THE WORLD WE NEED MORE CONCERN ..MORE LOVE YOU CAN'T HURT WHAT YOU LOVE.....
@georginamompiere7262
@georginamompiere7262 Жыл бұрын
People LOVED how crazy Tommie and Joseline were acting, but when Spice acts like that, she’s aggressive and mean and doing too much. Colorism is so deep and it hurts watching what she went through this season after almost dying and people really tried to paint t her to be aggressive when it really was pain she was projecting. She deserves grace just like everyone else gets.
@Unsweetened8618
@Unsweetened8618 Жыл бұрын
Joseline👩🏽 should've been fired along time ago. But she was a cash cow for VH1.
@sugartea6715
@sugartea6715 Жыл бұрын
Joseline wasn't being racist to anyone she was just in there working people's nerves great actress
@Unsweetened8618
@Unsweetened8618 Жыл бұрын
Joseline is trash and a bully. That girl should've been cancelled along time ago. She's worser than Erica Mena.
@Unsweetened8618
@Unsweetened8618 Жыл бұрын
Joseline has got away what alot of stuff. She's deplorable. Didn't she start a fight at the S3 reunion.
@kisha4040
@kisha4040 Жыл бұрын
​@@Unsweetened8618They're all deplorable to be honest.
@deantespencer4517
@deantespencer4517 Жыл бұрын
Joc speaking on Erica's "convenient ignorance" is all that needs to be said 15:09
@jamidogood6933
@jamidogood6933 Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry Spice you don't ever deserve that being said to you! That made me instantly cry for you and us black women! This is why we have to be so strong (NOT BY CHOICE) but out of necessity! It makes me feel like I'm invisible!
@LiveByDesign
@LiveByDesign Жыл бұрын
Well done Spice! You showed how well educated Caribbean people are on our history and that's why we will never be silent or stand down in the face of racism!
@JanetRobinson-0126
@JanetRobinson-0126 Жыл бұрын
And I love it and it's very much respected
@DeeDiamond2981
@DeeDiamond2981 Жыл бұрын
Yes. I feel touched we are represented in this conversation. 🇯🇲 🇹🇹 Caribbean Massive
@mariasouth7983
@mariasouth7983 Жыл бұрын
Caribbean’s need to stick together more
@ramontague21
@ramontague21 Жыл бұрын
​@mariasouth7983 BLACKS as a WHOLE need to stick together. Regardless of what our nationality is!
@6crazyfamily
@6crazyfamily Жыл бұрын
Caribeans also went through slavery not just here in America that’s how we know
@carolmncube5891
@carolmncube5891 Жыл бұрын
I'm not American I am South African but this conversation was such a trigger, at first I was like the production is trying to save face but as I listened to the conversation, this was and is needed. It's not easy being a black human being period, it's universal. We are beautiful, powerful and amazing that why they so scared of us. We need to recognize the power and greatness that we truly are, embrace and silence negative narrative towards black ppl.
@lex3916
@lex3916 Жыл бұрын
As an American to a South African 🫡 racism was perfected in that country. It’s scary to know hate can’t reach such a level. Over color, melanin, biology, literally factors beyond human control someone would want to end your life.
@LeratoM98
@LeratoM98 Жыл бұрын
Very well said sisi💯
@merchandisingisanart
@merchandisingisanart Жыл бұрын
This is not a new segment they started it two seasons ago,where the cast found out their African ancestors.
@liveblackrose8220
@liveblackrose8220 Жыл бұрын
Sending you love from cali❤️
@TeaberWilson
@TeaberWilson Жыл бұрын
What is "black"? Melanated? I don't get it. You all let yourselves be categorized. You've accepted it. Don't be mad. Be the change. I do not consent."half Puerto Rican half black", smh. Don't call me black, white, or anything else. The LGBTW has pronouns yeah? The species is human. Y'all need to get into how some of "them" are not HUMAN, go there.
@maureendudley1995
@maureendudley1995 Жыл бұрын
Spice i thank you for being vulnerable at this table. You made me cry to see you open up on this episode. This is the Spice I love and cheer for.
@jazzywash1214
@jazzywash1214 Жыл бұрын
When I went natural my grandmother would constantly say, "When are you gonna do something with your hair?" My curls have always been popping and it used to make me, as a teenager, so mad and insecure because I spent more time on my hair as a natural then I ever did as relaxed. She didn't mean to hurt me, but it still did.
@v.rivera8581
@v.rivera8581 Жыл бұрын
As a human being, I think Erica’s slurs are DISGUSTING!! Who the he** do you think you are calling someone that? No one deserves that. Kudos to LAHHATL for not putting up with this!!!
@mede6195
@mede6195 Жыл бұрын
They’re very much putting up with it. They’re profiting off it.
@s.r6331
@s.r6331 Жыл бұрын
LHH knew about this months before it aired and literally did nothing. Why is no1 also holding this network accountable
@myopinion1773
@myopinion1773 Жыл бұрын
​@@mede6195yes they put up with it for too long.. now "pressure buss pipe"
@goldenluck5660
@goldenluck5660 Жыл бұрын
I'm so proud of you Sarah!!!! It's so great to see you on TV and your book reaching so many people. I'm so happy for you!!!
@Thatgirlallday25
@Thatgirlallday25 Жыл бұрын
Same here. I follow her Instagram
@allloveallthetime9714
@allloveallthetime9714 Жыл бұрын
@@Thatgirlallday25 whats her full name . i will check it out
@arlenebentley4246
@arlenebentley4246 Жыл бұрын
Erica Mena calling Spice a "blue monkey" is hurtful and it's very disrespectful.
@K411-j3i
@K411-j3i Жыл бұрын
Yes.... But she was not being racist. I doubt anything like that crossed her mind. Her husband is black her children are black. Ppl use the race card to lightly and therefore it holds no worth anymore. She hurt Erica talking about her son. Sakana called her an entacllada that was racist also but it seems that black women can talk racist slurs and get away with it. Maybe she thinks she looks like a monkey she called her a blue monkey. She kinda looks like a monkey. Erica was hurt so hurt ppl hurt ppl. So I'm so sick of this 💩and ppl and emotions. Damn so this happened a yr ago and now she has no job to take care of her kids!!! They are both wrong. The worst thing Erica said was she should have died. Ppl got to stop being like this. It's to much!!!!
@allanabobby7891
@allanabobby7891 Жыл бұрын
Facts, and no one has a right to call on someone about the color of the color of their skin. Hate is Ugly, and no excepted in Heaven, God Created COLOR, cause it is beautiful.
@Idaninabee6059
@Idaninabee6059 Жыл бұрын
yep and the problem is in the international community like Erica she is not American using the word monkey is very casual but I tell people all the time when you want to do business in America you have to get with the way they do things here (I'm a foreigner)
@soukeynaadeleseck
@soukeynaadeleseck Жыл бұрын
@@K411-j3iShe has used Monkey to describe dark skin folks multiple times. Stop it! Also Spice said her son doesn’t like her. That’s all… her children are NOT black and her EX- husband was colorist as hell.
@maramara7494
@maramara7494 Жыл бұрын
@@K411-j3iyour whole essai is shit when you’re justifying this bs by throwing “her husband / kid are black” card … You forgot to add that she has “black friends” too💀
@sophiataylor24
@sophiataylor24 Жыл бұрын
Great conversation.. I love us still talking about this. I’m proud to be dark and black. We will get over colorism. We starting to love our skin tone. Erica knows what she saying. It not the first time people tell Erica about her son.
@davidholland6405
@davidholland6405 Жыл бұрын
THEY MADE A GOOD POINT! WE NEED TO GATEKEEP OUR CULTURE!
@comedianpottymouth
@comedianpottymouth Жыл бұрын
I think we need to normalize our culture the way the Europeans did so that our locks and natural curls are just as much the norm as straight hair
@carmelaortiz2922
@carmelaortiz2922 Жыл бұрын
I agree but we accept them and teach them to be like us
@DatSavageAB2657
@DatSavageAB2657 Жыл бұрын
You can’t stop nobody from being who they are and living their life as they seem fit
@mayamartinez5805
@mayamartinez5805 Жыл бұрын
I understand Erica defending her child, but you do not, I repeat, DO NOT get to use a racial slur to someone who mentions your child in a negative way. And I also hate how Erica said “you choose to be offended.” No, absolutely not. Erica truly makes me sick.
@mizkaponi4853
@mizkaponi4853 Жыл бұрын
NO....DISRESPECT IS DISRESPECT!! IDGAF! I SAY WHATEVER THAT NEED TO BE SAID TO LET A (H)OE KNOW I GIVE NO FKS. THAT'S JUST LIKE SAYIN....so what because someone comes up and spit on you .. that doesn't give you the right to slap them. YES IT DOES! Its a hurt for hurt type of thing...
@jmaxwillie7580
@jmaxwillie7580 Жыл бұрын
Spice never said anything about her child, she spoke about her parenting and said Erica’s child hates her. which definitely struck a nerve. To Erica that was a low blow so Erica took that opportunity to go lower since she couldn’t say the same for spice.
@ramonaflowers2813
@ramonaflowers2813 Жыл бұрын
Also wish death on them nasty woman
@awesomestar7597
@awesomestar7597 Жыл бұрын
@@mizkaponi4853 what if Erica was white?
@QueenBthatsMe777
@QueenBthatsMe777 Жыл бұрын
I've NEVER seen a good person get that upset over someone speaking on what their child(ren) feel for them. And quite honestly, TO BLACK MEN, MANY non- melanated women will actually lay with y'all, have kids with y'all, and build a life with y'all AND STILL feel the way erica expressed towards black females. Thank you to Joc for real life holding that slenderman built itch fully accountable
@bellax0o609
@bellax0o609 Жыл бұрын
This is crazy because they let Erica Menna film after the whole racist stuff. So if they were really trying to prove that they don’t want to be involved with any people that say, racial, slurs, etc. then they should’ve never let her film the day after or even two weeks ago..
@naylani2000
@naylani2000 Жыл бұрын
RIGHT ‼️ I been hearing and seeing rumors going around saying shes going to be on lhh miami soon to get “drama” ratings/views because of safaree and amara dating🫤 i hope they false cause that would be even more fucked up.
@Jmarie0134
@Jmarie0134 Жыл бұрын
I low key think they wanted it to blow up in her face bc they know their audience so yoh airing that was gonna get a reaction from the viewers regardless
@career5690
@career5690 Жыл бұрын
It was to air out her true colors against a black woman.
@career5690
@career5690 Жыл бұрын
@@naylani2000I hope not she’s gonna call Amara monkey.😢
@sharris8682
@sharris8682 Жыл бұрын
I think they baited her. I think they let her hang herself. Once she said the racist things I think they intended to let the word no she was racist thereafter.
@mondayschild1956
@mondayschild1956 Жыл бұрын
This was by far the most important conversation I have ever seen on reality TV ever. So important! So necessary! Thank you...may this be the beginning of some genuine healing!❤
@shameriabeasley9198
@shameriabeasley9198 Жыл бұрын
I applied some of the team members on holding Erica accountable and they did amazing job on EDUCATING RACIST. The discussing was needed for the show.
@kikichronicles
@kikichronicles Жыл бұрын
*applaud
@truthfactors9958
@truthfactors9958 Жыл бұрын
Latino folks can't be racist they are not the oppressors.
@KunoichiZel
@KunoichiZel Жыл бұрын
Watch them still be friends with her smh
@tuereredivine9821
@tuereredivine9821 Жыл бұрын
Looks like this might be a sneak move to check the temperature on bringing Erica "racist" Mena back....
@eliciascott7758
@eliciascott7758 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Erica and yes I'm a black man
@LondonLoves
@LondonLoves Жыл бұрын
I’m glad spice realized she has to take accountability for her behavior in this season. She has been angry and she does need counseling. I’m a big fan of her so I hope she gets the help she needs.
@shamekacarpenter6459
@shamekacarpenter6459 Жыл бұрын
She had to take accountability but I feel it’s this show period a lot of b.s. the show all the negative energy mess can eventually fill you up you react they show the ugliness of the matter for ratings 😢they use that against her them us 🙌🏾🙏🏾
@MoiraPraline
@MoiraPraline Жыл бұрын
She was angry long before she got on the show.., that’s who she is.
@-Ashie...
@-Ashie... Жыл бұрын
@@MoiraPraline Right!! Ive been on a L&HH Atlanta marathon this past week & Spice got mad at Shekinah for speaking on Akbar V kids even tho she wasnt saying anything bad how Akbar needed to leave her alone, go on about her business & raise her kids but Spice got upset & started arguing with Shekinah about it. Spice told Shekinah how wrong it was to bring up Akbar V's kids/ parenting when Spice is the one whos fighting, arguing & bringing up someone else's parenting/ kids. This was on Season 8 episode(16) 8 minutes into the episode.
@floridataylor3984
@floridataylor3984 Жыл бұрын
No matter what type issues Spice have, it doesn't give Erica the right...
@hurricaneSlurricane
@hurricaneSlurricane Жыл бұрын
The way so many black women keep defending erica is weird asf
@BlessedOneKym
@BlessedOneKym Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it's always some of us, who are accepting of anything
@thatbeaatcch9884
@thatbeaatcch9884 Жыл бұрын
Right, even as a Latina im not claiming her. That’s hella fucked up
@dasiareed2708
@dasiareed2708 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@kianalaboriel6595
@kianalaboriel6595 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!!!
@kianalaboriel6595
@kianalaboriel6595 Жыл бұрын
@@thatbeaatcch9884queen 🥹
@aupele
@aupele Жыл бұрын
I cannot like this video enough! Very informative, raw, and REAL! I love how all of them had great input!
@RAIJOHNSEN
@RAIJOHNSEN Жыл бұрын
This convo actually got deeper than I was expecting. Pleasant surprise
@ToyaRR
@ToyaRR Жыл бұрын
Joc is so hurt. You can see the emotion on his face and hear it in his voice when he spoke about Erica knowing the gravity of what she said.
@mofun5315
@mofun5315 Жыл бұрын
Plus he was hurt that the other cast members didn't seem to understand about the N word and monkey being on the same level and about why black women were the fake hair ... which by the way men hate but you can't ever tell a woman that. lol
@CANDYSOULonline
@CANDYSOULonline Жыл бұрын
@@mofun5315 Exactly!!! They were not being real about the fake hair part. And Joc knew it.
@pie1805
@pie1805 Жыл бұрын
@@CANDYSOULonlineit’s called forced assimilation in society. If you don’t assimilate into the dominant norms that control all resources in society you get discriminated against, hence the whole hair issue and who wants that!
@kisha4040
@kisha4040 Жыл бұрын
​@@pie1805However there are plenty of natural haired Black women that assimilate into society.
@kenyafromcali
@kenyafromcali Жыл бұрын
@@mofun5315They’re NOT and that’s a ridiculous statement. Also, they say nega all day.
@tyrellefrazier16
@tyrellefrazier16 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad we’re having conversations like this
@LeshaFBaby
@LeshaFBaby Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@toyahill4151
@toyahill4151 Жыл бұрын
Yes we need to have conversations like this.
@cali-tm1ec
@cali-tm1ec Жыл бұрын
i am a 57 yr old caucasion female. i didnt know there was a thing call "colorism", until about 2yrs ago. Thank you for this discussion and im sorry you all have to experience so much angst and feelings of being less then because of the color of your skin. may god bless and keep you in his loving care🙏❤️💙
@MrIranlove
@MrIranlove Жыл бұрын
Same thing with basketball wives. Evelyn calling OG a money...
@pyt.98
@pyt.98 Жыл бұрын
Monkey** And Yes Seeing Her On The Next Season Of Basketball Wives Is Very Much Wild!
@buttrp3canrican
@buttrp3canrican Жыл бұрын
Exactly. They picking and choosing fr.
@naylani2000
@naylani2000 Жыл бұрын
Damn u edited it and still forgot to spell monkey right 😭
@ire80east46
@ire80east46 Жыл бұрын
​@naylani2000 or perhaps didn't want say it their self? We all got it hun...
@JasmineWare-tp1dd
@JasmineWare-tp1dd Жыл бұрын
Exactly and She Called CeCe “Ling Ling” Which Was Also Racist !!!
@melissagoldberg7080
@melissagoldberg7080 Жыл бұрын
I remember when Spice talked about this a few seasons ago. She talked about how she had been discriminated against due to her darker skin, and even did a shoot where she air brushed her skin to a much lighter color to prove a point. I hate that anyone has to go thru discrimination from anyone.
@Calicapenergy88
@Calicapenergy88 Жыл бұрын
I love these conversations because people really don’t know how we are treated in these different settings
@krwilliams7154
@krwilliams7154 Жыл бұрын
Wow!!! that was really good conversation. There was a lot of insight, teaching and learning that we all can learn from no matter what the race. or color. Thank you so much!
@dservrien
@dservrien Жыл бұрын
This should be done every season! There is so much more they need to discuss and heal from.
@MeeMeeG
@MeeMeeG Жыл бұрын
Like what?
@kayg902
@kayg902 Жыл бұрын
🎉🎉exactly
@TreasureChest0806
@TreasureChest0806 Жыл бұрын
Married 2 Medicine & RHOA should take notes on how a colorism conversation should be done. Get an expert! Not Andy Cohen
@michyboo5314
@michyboo5314 Жыл бұрын
And real housewives of potomac as well
@KikiSoFlyy
@KikiSoFlyy Жыл бұрын
@@michyboo5314the colorism on RHOP is disgusting.
@TheRenegadeStarr
@TheRenegadeStarr Жыл бұрын
What colorism is going on with M2M and RHOA?
@TheRenegadeStarr
@TheRenegadeStarr Жыл бұрын
@@KikiSoFlyythey had a chance to discuss it on the RHOP reunion and Candice and Wendy couldn’t name specific instances like Robyn asked for and was waiting to hear.
@waseyeever
@waseyeever Жыл бұрын
i hope spice heals through all of this. it is so obvious from watching the season and this video that she is deeply hurt and i want her to be free from that pain. colorism and racism create deep wounds that can really mess with people and she has lived her entire life being negatively impacted by white supremacy. it's time for healing, and we can get that if people continue to fight for and protect black and dark skinned people.
@celestegetscrafty9761
@celestegetscrafty9761 Жыл бұрын
This conversation was sooooo needed! Black women are who others imitate and emulate but are made to feel as if we aren’t ENOUGH by society and sometimes family and peers. Let’s love on ourselves in our natural state and each other more! ❤
@CurvyKeto
@CurvyKeto Жыл бұрын
They try to make us feel like we not enough because they dont want us to know, feel, and act on our power. That's why they copy us. If everything we do is bad, why they try to capitalize off doing the same thing. The issue is we dont stick together
@LeratoM98
@LeratoM98 Жыл бұрын
Facts 💯
@joyrenee2096
@joyrenee2096 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Bullshit
@RhiiRhiiQtee
@RhiiRhiiQtee Жыл бұрын
@@joyrenee2096be quiet.
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