Love Island: the straights can keep it

[@AshTanya]

"You're a feminist aren't you?" OMG girl RUUUN

[@sasha-fj4ex]

i’m out bitch- 🏃‍♀️✌️

[@socialistwhore2132]

I cackled

[@EnigmaticLucas]

Using "feminist" as a noun in that context is itself a red flag, honestly. Saying "you're a feminist" (rather than simply "you're feminist") gives me 2016 vibes.

[@Sabrina-sc1db]

And he said it like it was a bad thing RED FLAG PARADEEE

[@SaikolaM]

Johnny made want to jump off the edge of the earth

[@julianapier9057]

The worst thing about telling people your bi is the “oH sO dO yOu HaVe A cRUSh On Me?¿” like no, calm down Tracey I have standards

[@annabeinglazy5580]

I came out to a friend who also realized shes bi recently, so according to Tracey, we should be very busy and in love now since we are the only two bi people on the planet ... Instead we watch Netflix and fawn about Gillian Anderson. And Keanu reeves. Thats what bi people do, Tracey, get your head Out of the gutter

[@Xxgorevi38xX]

Exactlyyy like calm down ur not that pretty tf?

[@RenaDeles]

@Therealdonut8 or maybe, gasp, it's a common bi experience.

[@gruel_]

I hate when people say they're attracted to the same gender and people ask "dO YoU LIke mE?" like just because someone likes the same gender as you doesn't mean they like YOU, I mean do you ask straight people the same thing?

[@julianapier9057]

@Therealdounut8, yes it is overused, but that is simply because is it a common shared experience as pointed out in a different comment. The reason I commented this in the first place was because Tara mentioned coming out, and many people (including myself) can relate to the struggles that come along with that. (Outdated, pretty sure he deleted that comment)

[@Kaylaabrown8428]

Also the fact that… Love Island has some problem with darker skin black women. They purposely put these women in a scenario where colorism is thriving is traumatizing. Imagine an lgbt version of this with the colorism and racism and fat phobia that’s already all over our community unfortunately.

[@devonmunn5728]

Yeah Ada On Demand discussed in her video they purposefully choose men (most of the time) who prefer blonde white women and take in Black girls who have similar preferences only to be constantly rejected so it's like a bait and switch which is cruel

[@birdiewolf3497]

@@devonmunn5728 Yeah, they normalize people having borderline Nazi-esque preferences.

[@devonmunn5728]

@@birdiewolf3497 yeah like "Blonde Hair Blue Eyes" like the "Aryan Race"

[@devonmunn5728]

@@Tom-co8uz Well my mom is blonde so....yeah.

[@Woofwoof369]

Exactly why are we acting like love island is the peak of entertainment anyway to put our representation there. Literally 80% or more of people who watches Love island are straight. I wouldnt get involved in a show like that could harm the community

[@janice990]

"I'm not like other girls, I can't swim" took me out

[@Squirrelanditsnutz]

I’m not Dyslexic (my sister is the Dyslexic one in the family), but I accidentally read “took me out” as “turned me on”.

[@janice990]

@@Squirrelanditsnutz im dyslexic and i can relate 😭

[@Sadie-rai]

@@Squirrelanditsnutz I like to think that arousal truly did arise from that quote 😭

[@Squirrelanditsnutz]

@@Sadie-rai as a swimmer, who likes other swimmers, can’t be me who got aroused.

[@Sadie-rai]

@@Squirrelanditsnutz I relate to this very much! I will keep out hope for someone out there finding the brain typo to be true though...

[@Clevermoreunicorn]

“Shouldn’t we all be feminists?” *Dudebro Scoffs* 🤨 vote him off planet earth please.

[@hannahlennertkristiansen4797]

no, he just needs to go blanky mode a bit

[@girlybrainrot]

he’s the kind of guy who thinks feminism is attacking men for no reason 😂 so of course he doesn’t agree with it, he’s the men they attack 😳 red flags 🚩 immediately after i heard that lmao

[@claudiasolomon1123]

May I please cast my vote ?? I vote Yes on evicting him.

[@claudiasolomon1123]

If a woman paying makes that guy feel emasculated, I have the solution. .. steal his credit card, max it out. When he sees how much of his money went to you, a straight woman, he, a straight man, will feel SO manly & valid.

[@DarDarBinks1986]

Why the hell would anyone insist that the man pay? What is this? The '50s?

[@claudiasolomon1123]

@@DarDarBinks1986 I live in America, this mentality is still very much alive & well.

[@DarDarBinks1986]

@@claudiasolomon1123 I'm American, too. And when I was in boymode, older relatives would always tell me to pay for dates "because that's what guys do". Never mind that I was NEVER a guy in the first place. There was this one woman who clung to the "the guy should always pay" bit, and she was around my age. WHY WOULD ANYONE STILL THINK THIS WAY? SHE'S ANOTHER MILLENNIAL! SHE'S SUPPOSED TO INHERENTLY KNOW BETTER! Even before I started transitioning, I knew in the back of my mind that I'd prefer the role of the girlfriend/wife. To another girl. I'm now a year into HRT and thinking of meeting some women to date, but not sure where to start. All I know is to throw all the het-oriented advice I was given out the window. We women relate differently to women than we do to men, and men to men differently than to women. This holds true even when people don't know they're actually women or men. Different courtship rituals, different perceptions, different dynamics, different communication styles. Things get more complex for nonbinary people, some of whom can best describe their dating style as queer. Some don't mind playing the role of boyfriend or girlfriend, even when they're not a boy or girl. Some combine aspects of both binary roles. Some prefer playing a neutral role. And some struggle to figure out their role in the relationship.

[@0xXNamineXx0]

Some people are taught the old ways are better or millennials are destroying good christian/family values, so they don't change.

[@claudiasolomon1123]

@@gruel_ some men feel the core of what makes them men is being a provider of money food & shelter.

[@FundieFridays]

I’m going to sue you for $1 million pounds for the trademark infringement of “allegedly”!!

[@SoularSlothesk]

Love your channel, I'm a Jenonite~

[@KariTalks]

@Fundie Fridays I want a Lindsay Ellis/Contrapoints style feud between you and Tara

[@TaraMooknee]

I forgot to put in the siren

[@ToppyTree]

Now I want to see a fundie love Island

[@specialj67]

@@ToppyTree OMG, that would be HORRIFIC-I must have it now!

[@kyerin]

I think given that reality TV producers are perfectly happy to throw people under the bus, and LGBT folks are more likely to be criticised by media, any positive benefit to the community would be more than cancelled out by the inevitable harm to the individuals.

[@eat_pray_porg8450]

Yes, well said.

[@icravedeath.1200]

As an autistic bi man who likes to dress up like cruella de vil (the 1966 version), I can agree.

[@icravedeath.1200]

Also, look up what they said about renovating the set for disabled people, it's frightening.

[@phataldestroyer]

In a bizzaro verse where LBTQ+ based (not like tela tequila) dating shows came to prime time tv There would be an immediate response from "million mom of america" (realistically the " thousands of Karen's of america") Crying out "Think about the children 😭" I can already see fox news complaining about the "gay agenda!" And how Democrats are brainwashing your kids with "immoral behaviors" It tickles me and spooks me all at once I mean Netflix would be fine tho.

[@AnEmu404]

⁠​⁠@@icravedeath.1200that sounds awesome (the dressing like cruella). I’m an autistic aroace nonbiney and i can totally see the harm producers for these kinds of show could cause. No way would it have a positive impact for lgbt+ folks. I’d love for a show where aroace people try to make friends, might not be very intense or entertaining though ahah. Maybe if there were some chainsaws and death defying acts. More ‘reality’/game shows should have chainsaws.

[@moretyquira]

"why do people want disingenuous representation? Don't they want more than that?" It's actually really sad. We're living in a time where a lot of representation is for 'woke points' and 'to shut the minorities up' rather than compelling interesting arcs that are real and unique. Because it's easier and cheaper to just inject representation into an already familiar brand rather that put the money into something new. It's really sad. Not to say that you can't want a all gay love island, I just want something more than that and it makes me sad that it would never get the attention that love island would.

[@FileCode1459]

pretty much, this goes with the fact many representations are more of an assimilation thing than actual representation and change

[@booktales1687]

Yes, all of this! Building up a new story that takes the time to make good representation is so much more impactful than throwing in minority groups just cause. Especially when it comes to movies. It’s like the film industries don’t think we can carry our own stories, so they sloppily give us half hearted representation

[@ratcum_1874]

Disingenuous representation is better than none at all but it is a depressing reality.

[@devonmunn5728]

Plus representation should be important to those represented and not made palatable to bigots to convince them people who they don't like are human when they should already think that

[@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747]

@@ratcum_1874 Fake representation is much worse than no representation, in the same way that not knowing medicine is better than having wrong medical knowledge. Having a group of people perpetuating stereotypes of people in other groups is more harmful because it teaches the people in group A that all the wrong believes associated with group B are true just because people from B accepted to get paid to star in a show/film written and produced, not by a cow, but by people in A (Mostly octagenary hetero white dudes.)

[@Sabrina-sc1db]

I really liked this one, I was all on board with the "all bi/pan" love island but I hadn't considered the producers would completely ruin it and the repercussions it would have for the community This is the type of video essay I needed, I thank the cow for their wisdom

[@laviniachiara1438]

In Germany we have a gay and lesbian bachlorette and I kinda feel the same abt it. It is cool to have it, but it creates harmful stereotypes.

[@noaso]

@@laviniachiara1438 I feel you, but especially with princess charming the contestants were all different and mostly authentic imo it was really refreshing and nice to see✨

[@AccordingToWillow]

the cow uses she/her pronouns

[@edithputhy4948]

there was a bisexual dating show called "The Bi Life" on E! hosted by Courtney Act, it was kinda amazing but cancelled after its first season

[@kam-lw4ez]

I think there would also be a lot of people pretending to be bi for clout on there

[@victorlannister5606]

I’m bisexual and honestly I might also be aro/ace but not my point. I have had a dude ask me if I was bi for clout. Because it’s a popular trend ! Seriously so many people have that opinion and I honestly think Bi love Island would make it worse. My ex constantly called bi people cheater before I came out. And my own mom told me and I quote, “ you don’t have to lie to give me hope it’s ok if you’re gay!” Which is sweet but still bi erasure. I don’t know much about love island but I couldn’t imagine the amount of crap that could cause.

[@Enriquez2222]

Yup my brother told me it’s trendy and everyone is gay now after I announced my gf and introduced her to the fam. (Never saw a reason to come out but anyone who asked knew)

[@gruel_]

@@Enriquez2222 It always irks me when people say its "trendy" to be gay or bi. I'm pretty sure more people are coming out because they've had the chance to reflect on themselves and their sexuality, not because it's a trend. Edit: for some reason, I can't see my biphobia comment. can other people see it?

[@Enriquez2222]

@@gruel_ that’s exactly what I said…. I stopped talking after he said “super straight” was a good thing 🙄

[@gruel_]

@@Enriquez2222 your brother thinks being transphobic is a good thing?🤮 your brother sounds horrible

[@LBYRNTH_]

@@gruel_ Well, irked as you may be there is some truth to it. There's been a significant uptick in using gay/bi as a trend by influencers, mainly dudes on youtube, who use clickbait in their thumbnails and titles to invoke coming out or having gay/bi experiences only for it be played for laughs as a joke with a "sorry I'm still straight haha" attached to it. It's a very real trend... unfortunately. 😒

[@coyotefire69420]

"I tried to look as Love Island-y as possible" *Is paler than a sheet Hahahaha great video as always. Thanks to Editor Cow for giving us this

[@DearestSheepMC]

Everytime I think of love island *I just remember that one girl that thought that Britain wouldn't have any more trees because they were leaving the EU*

[@sasha-fj4ex]

sksksjsjsksjjsjs yes-

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

I always remember the girl who thought Essex was a country.

[@btarczy5067]

That‘s just woke. I haven’t seen any trees in Great Britain since they left. Granted, I haven’t been to Britain but still.

[@eat_pray_porg8450]

NOOOOOOOO

[@qcthesxientist]

in her defence she misheard some gibberish with the word wood in it and seemed rather confused as to why all the trees would be gone.

[@GhostlyDilemma]

In Germany there recently was a show called "Princess Charming" which was, as implied, a lesbian dating show. Didnt think much of the show but it was pretty darn good representation. Doubt that Love Island could pull it off though. Just lucky that lgbt dating shows can work and can represent in a not so reality tv way!

[@karolinkiehl4097]

I live in Germany, I am a lesbian,how have I never heard of that ? I need to find that. Thank you for telling me :)

[@elisachlte5085]

Princess charming was so much fun to watch

[@GhostlyDilemma]

@@karolinkiehl4097 Can highly recommend to watch the series made by Annikazon on KZbin alongside it. Adds a lot more character to it and is great for the memes :P

[@annabeinglazy5580]

Why does Germany only do cool stuff after i moved away? XD

[@D0MiN0ChAn]

Wait, what? What channel was it on? 😲😲

[@eliasbischoff176]

The fact that "personalized mayonnaise" exists within the same era as... *Points at fucking everything* really speaks to how our timeline is just the most tragic comedy anyone could have ever thought of

[@SpaceCase1701]

Truly the phrase, "reality is stranger than fiction" has never been more true. You really couldn't make this shit up

[@gildedpeahen876]

The girls response to "you're a feminist aren't you" was perfect tho "Shouldn't we all be feminists?"

[@markprice5651]

no, we shouldn't

[@misscornicat]

@@markprice5651 ….please leave

[@markprice5651]

@@misscornicat no

[@ellie8784]

@@markprice5651 you either support women's rights or you don't. All your saying is that we shouldn't support women's rights. There is no "in-between" your either misogynistic or your not.

[@markprice5651]

@@ellie8784 Name one right you don't have that men have. Aside from that you are totally wrong. Most people tend to have nuanced opinions. You can be in favor of many things involved in any particular philosophy, dogma, or creed, and still be critical or question some of it. To say that either you are a feminist or not, is pretty stupid....oh, and women like you are why fewer people every day identify as a feminist. And again, exactly what right are you fighting for? You, as a woman, are easily in the most "catered to" class of people on the planet.

[@jessicabidon9903]

There's a woman on Bachelor in Paradise who is introduced as if bisexuality is her primary characteristic, even though the rules are set up in such a way that she is not allowed to date any of the women. And I can't help but think ABC is just trying to reinforce stereotypes with that one, because she is also... um... sexually prolific.

[@eat_pray_porg8450]

Good old ABC.

[@Kefemu]

That stereotype is a problem, but I'm also worried about this kind of reaction to it. Bi people who want to be hypersexual shouldn't be held to a more strict code of conduct than everyone else.

[@girlybrainrot]

@@Kefemu that’s true, but the main issue with this is the stereotypes it continues to perpetuate. Bisexual people are ALWAYS presented as sexually adventurous when that’s just not true. i would love to see more representation on tv that doesn’t conform the the maze gaze for views

[@jessicabidon9903]

@@Kefemu You're absolutely right! I'm not here to shame anyone for being hypersexual, because I don't think that's a bad thing, or for reinforcing stereotypes, because no individual should have to be a representative of their group. I'm not annoyed at the woman on the show, just ABC for handling it very poorly.

[@Kefemu]

@@jessicabidon9903 Yeah, I didn't think you were trying to shame. But I've seen enough people do it that it tends to raise alarm bells in my brain. I guess that's the trouble with talking to strangers online.

[@catherinecampbell1089]

I assume there gonna be panphobia/biphobia and not to mention transphobia. Plus they’ll exclude the BIPOC community as well!

[@socialistwhore2132]

Everyone contestants is under the bi umbrella and the majority of the cast are P.o.c

[@dubiousyoghurt]

the L in LGBT stands for Love Island

[@lj9392]

LLGBT

[@kristae.7686]

Stop trying to erase us lesbians! J/k. We're fine. 😂

[@VengefulAngeI]

Is it just me, or did the "only channel on KZbin where all shows are written & produced by a cow" line seem much more intense / aggressive than usual?! I mean, I never doubted your claim, Tara, I swear! Just take it easy!

[@amb600cd0]

it made me happy i noticed it too, i want her to keep getting angrier

[@VengefulAngeI]

@@amb600cd0 It was great, lol!

[@elbruces]

She recently filed legal action against some other channels claiming the same thing. It's getting pretty ugly.

[@cronchyskull]

I’ve always said, I just want one year where they swap the contestant line up for Love Island with that of The Great British Bake Off. So instead we get to watch some of the sweetest people ever chilling around a pool for a month and having a nice time and then some potentially vapid hotties under the withering glare of Paul Hollywood trying to make choux pastry.

[@quinnlove5777]

Absolutely, that’s an incredible idea I’d pay money for it

[@issecret1]

I'd watch that. You see one of these fools lose their mind while cooking and then the scene changes to someone chilling in silence while floating in a pool. Then back to cooking while screaming

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

Please. Do us all a favour and pitch this to whoever makes these shows.

[@sockthejock4074]

Completely agree. I'd rather straight people not fuck it up and just leave the LGBTQ+ community alone. The Love Island creators don't really care about diversity and inclusion, they just wanna make money. I'd rather someone who actually cares and will handle it well to do it.

[@MsAaannaaa]

I actually thoroughly enjoyed the lesbian bachelor we had this year (princess charming) on a very popular and successful german tv streaming service. I had never watched an episode of the bachelor or the bachelorette. not even prince charming (the gay bachelor) 3 years ago could get me on board because I really struggle with the secondhand embarrassment. but when they announced the lesbian / sapphic version of it I had to give it a try, if only to watch the first lesbian dating tv show ever worldwide. I was surprised to see only little drama but mainly sweet people being sweet and supportive. I loved it and can't wait for the 2nd season (which they got).

[@dreamgirlfriendevil]

That sounds great! I hope it comes to international sites. 😍

[@cosmoforbearance6393]

Not to be to dramatic but HOLY HELL I WANNA SEE THIS SHOW

[@outofplantpots]

It's absolutely worth it! It was really nice to see something unproblematic in the realms of "trash tv"

[@spidermonkey2470]

I agree 100%, I watched it too and it was the best! I think part of why it turned out so unproblematic was because everyone was really aware that they were representing sapphic women for the first time in German TV and that lots of people would watch it

[@MsAaannaaa]

@@spidermonkey2470 agreed, they were all very aware of their responsibility & that a big part of the show was representation.

[@DocKrazy]

Ah yes. Bring the asexuals and aromantics to love island. I'd... I'd kinda wanna see that. Wait. Can I apply?

[@samanthayost1169]

If they did that, we'd all spend so much time not having sex / coupling up with each other that we'd probably solve world hunger together within the first season.

[@Sabrina-sc1db]

In for the money, fuck yeah

[@JustAHorrorShow]

YES! This would actually be so fun!

[@user-fs9mv8px1y]

@@samanthayost1169 "Just give people food when they're hungry?" 😩

[@samanthayost1169]

@@user-fs9mv8px1y Well I mean, it was just a low-hanging-fruit example of an intractable problem. Globally we have more than enough resources to feed everyone if we had the political will to do it, but....ya know....🤷🏻‍♀️

[@midnight10200]

“I’d feel almost emasculated if a girl paid” 😭😭😭 men aint shit

[@lj9392]

like bro, it aint her fault your masculinity's so fragile that it would shatter just because a girl paid

[@bluegreenglue6565]

Translation: "If I don't pay, her obligation to me is decreased..."

[@eat_pray_porg8450]

That is the least manly thing I have ever heard come out of a man's mouth on any dating show. His parents definitely didn't raise him right.

[@lj9392]

@@RiceShouldBeFluffy Just because someone was taught hurtful beliefs doesn't mean that it hurts people any less. If doing "the right thing" is insensitive or harmful, then their intentions do not erase the damage it causes to the people being targeted. "you guys are going out of your way to come to the worst possible conclusions" "You guys are super out of touch. Really just stuck up your own ***holes." ..so, you decided that we're terrible human beings because we said something you disagreed with. I agree with some points you made. This is the environment he was raised in, and it will impact his way of thinking & seeing things. However, criticism challenges people. If no one tells him that what he's been taught is bad, then how will he learn that it's bad? If harmful ideologies are encouraged, they will continue to thrive. We don't expect him to be reading these comments on a video he probably doesn't even know he's in. So we may be harsher than we would be if we were directly talking to him. I'm not saying we're right, just that I don't think anyone here is actively seeking to tear ppl down. I don't think he's a irredeemable, evil, gleefully malicious villain. I think he's a person who was raised in a misogynistic society. And that if he wants to and tries to, he can learn a healthier mindset & develop the vocabulary he needs to express himself and become a better person. And I don't think you're some evil person either. I think we're just people with various opinions on complicated topics. Constructive criticism is a thing. Simply calling ppl ***holes doesn't change anything. (sorry if this is confusing or too long, i suck at summarizing:/)

[@lj9392]

​@@RiceShouldBeFluffy I see what you're saying. And that's true, my bad. I get swept up in emotions pretty easily. I think I've kinda gotten more bitter this past year or so, I feel like I get frustrated w/ ppl a lot quicker than I used to. I can't speak for anyone else here, But I assume for most ppl here, this topic probably reminded them of ppl who are like that (consciously discriminatory), and thus associated it with him. I guess I feel it's kinda more of a mixture? like maybe he's more conscious about certain aspects of it than other parts (well, I figure most ppl are tbh). Like I said, it's a complicated topic, probably not one that can thoroughly be discussed through youtube comments. I have no idea how coherent this is, apologies. Im trying to avoid giving another essay, & I don't rlly have any major arguments with your points, so I don't have much to add to them.

[@kate2late91]

The bachelorette might actually be a good format for bisexuals, we're trying this out this season in Australia, one bisexual lady choosing from a group of guys and girls, can't be stereotyped as greedy when that's the whole show

[@kate2late91]

@@Tom-co8uz She's the bachelorette, by definition she isn't the one trying to attract...

[@kate2late91]

@@Tom-co8uz You might want to google what bisexual means

[@hylianexpected1171]

@@Tom-co8uz You apparently really don't tho, is the thing

[@bluegirl278]

@Tom Mayer if she wasn't attracted to women but pretend to be in the show it would actually lower the amount of guys she could choose from since there are a limited number of competitors. The women would take up spots that men could instead. The bachelorette is about people competing for one girls affection, they are trying to win her over, not the other way around so she doesn’t have to “pretend” to be anything.

[@kenon6968]

That's essentially a shot of love with tia tequila, it was degrading to the human condition and now thankfully forgotten.

[@Sabrina-sc1db]

The most iconic things love island gave us: * That Love island game series that Cody Ko and Noel did * This video You can't change my mind

[@bluegreenglue6565]

The spoofy SNL sketches are pretty funny, though.

[@Simmerdownidc]

Love island the game is way better than the show.

[@user-cz2bj1hl2r]

When that guy said "You're a feminist aren't you" THE WAY I GASPED OMG WHYD HE SMILE AFTER SAYING IT........?????

[@applebottomjeansss]

The best thing that ever came out of Love Island were the two girls who were contestants that fell in love with each other

[@hailey-rosevintora6211]

Cassie and Phoebe

[@peacefulleopard8016]

You have the sweetest profile picture.

[@TreeHairedGingerAle]

"We want people to be attracted to each other." Implying that there are only a very few types of people who are 'inherently' attractive; completely ignoring that humans tend to have subjective views of what is beautiful and/or sexy (as if folks don't have their own personal preferences ffs 9_9+++ ).

[@allyas]

The statement reeks of fatphobia honestly. I watched a few seasons of Love Island and I was not attracted to many of the women there, because the love island type is just not my type it seems.

[@danielbuzi7742]

As a little subscription myself, I have enjoyed my time under your pillow, but I en genuinely starting to wonder if I’ll ever see the cow in a video. You’re a fine presenter Tara, but I think I speak for a lot of people when I say we want to see the creative mind behind the magic. Moooo

[@dreamgirlfriendevil]

The ‘diverse and inclusive line up’: 👩🏼👩🏼👩🏼👩🏼👩🏼👩🏾👩🏼

[@MsReveur]

That comment made my day 😆😆😆

[@MsReveur]

That comment made my day 😆😆😆

[@lastcarhome]

Here we go! Got my coffee ready to watch another iconic essay.

[@lolaf1er]

Honestly, I am dying for the day when we as a community realize we can and should stop begging cis-straights who don't care about us for table scraps and start actually appreciating queer creators when they tell their stories. And also stop being hyper-critical of queer creators the way we aren't with cishet creators.

[@nesvrstana1950]

NOT cis

[@lolaf1er]

Not a cis person not understanding how adjectives work in the replies. Cis is an adjective, a descriptor. It is value neutral, Jesus.

[@collinsmcrae]

It's not that they don't care about you, it's just that you are a much smaller market. The vast majority of viewers are interested in heterosexual romantic storylines. Many don't relate as well to queer romantic storylines. These shows aim for an audience made up of the lowest common denominator of the biggest markets.

[@lolaf1er]

So anyways straight hets don't care about queer people, because if they did they'd know we are just as valuable a market to tap into because even many straight people are interested in queer storylines and when affluent white gays have disposable income they often don't have children they are inclined to spend it on. Markets research have proven that the queer community is not an insubstantial enough market you should be able to afford to ignore us, it's why queer baiting exists.

[@tanah6962]

@@collinsmcrae They do care about our money. Ever heard of the pink pound? Drag race became popular and then they started merchandising that show to fuck. I saw a book about drag race quotes in WHSmiths the other day... Like?? And it only got popular because of the straights but they will use anything Queer related to make money so why can they just give us the damn space that we want????

[@Sabrina-sc1db]

The real crime is that I had no idea "The Bi life" existed

[@DrMintster]

"gimme da gorbage" "It's garbage though." "GIMME DA GORBAGE!!"

[@maya-zd8jr]

AHHH AFTER YOU SAID “heterosexual lens” I GOT AN AD WITH THE PROPERTY BROTHERS IN IT

[@rhea9743]

LMFAOO

[@matilda6341]

I feel like "steer queer" is a very confusing phrase. Like are we steering towards queer or steering clear of the queer like the original phrase.

[@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access]

“Why I don’t want an LGBT+ Love Island” I’m intrigued, Tana. I also have a question. Why does *anyone* want *any* kind of Love Island?

[@gray404]

Is there nothing that SCREAMS straight man writer than "Yeah, you should kiss... for the LGBT community" gross

[@peace1504]

babes i have been WAITING all day in anticipation for this😆🤚🏾

[@gingergamer3270]

"Songer/singwriter" made me laugh more than I care to admit.

[@gingergamer3270]

Janeway is suprr cute

[@minako10]

This is such a coincidence! I just saw an interview with Courtney Act in which she explains why LGBTQ+ Love Island Isn’t a good idea. By the way, I found Courtney’s “The Bi Life” to be a decent show. Does anyone have any thoughts on it?

[@karacoconutag]

Never heard of it, but I love Courtney Act!

[@bronzebeetle8147]

This reminds me of a while ago in Australia when a season of The Bachelorette with a bisexual Bachelorette was announced. Later in the day my (bisexual) sister told me that she heard some radio hosts debating whether they'd want to date someone who had been in a same-sex relationship previously. The whole conversation fell into a lot of biphobic arguments and I can imagine it upset a lot of bisexuals just trying to live their lives that day. Yes, maybe media attention like this is an essential part of the process of becoming more accepted by general society, but that day still made me less comfortable about being open about my bisexuality 🤔 Anyway, the bisexual Bachelorette is happening whether I like it or not. I hope it can do something good for us.

[@Syurtpiutha]

03:48 Wew, was worried for a second that this video was not written and edited by a cow. I need this confirmation earlier in the videos, lest the existential despair kicks in. Anyway, love your videos. Hope the cow shows up in the future, but that is up to her. No pressure.

[@Monocultured01]

As an ace, I would love to go on the show. Mostly so I could stonewall everyone and win all the money (that's how it works, right?). Edit: just realized that I'm thinking of the Netflix show too hot to handle, but I don't care. I stand by my original statement, even if it makes no sense now.

[@legendofsociety796]

If a guy asks, “you’re a feminist aren’t you?”, you dont need to run, he’ll run from you.

[@davidshaw6159]

You're right, and I've changed my mind a bit. Much as I'd like to see a Love Bisland happen in the hope of chipping away at the heteronorms, I can't see the producers making it anything other than exploitative and stereotype-reinforcing. I'll just go back to complaining about its obsession with physical appearance and lack of body type diversity. While I'm here: Mindhunter. Dark and funny? Dark, yes. Funny, really no. I'm worried to learn what bits you were laughing at. Are you sure you're ok?

[@TaraMooknee]

it has some funny moments!...right?

[@davidshaw6159]

​@@TaraMooknee I suppose that bit where they found another dismembered corpse was kind of funny, yeah.

[@twilight79010]

There's some funny banter between the main characters! Bill has great quips when he's annoyed.

[@davidshaw6159]

@@twilight79010 You're right, there are some (a few) funny bits, but I do like the idea of Tara cackling like a Disney villain at the horrible bits.

[@juliafraa6419]

I feel like the whole premise/concept of love island reinforces the stereotype that bisexual people always cheat on their partner if bisexual people are represented. People will see all the switched partners and be like see! My prejudiced ideas were correct!

[@jamesculverhouse4657]

Hear me out, everyones pansexual, i call it "The PANopticon".

[@davidfl4]

Diversity should mean more than just “inclusion” it also has to allow a diverse range of stories and perspectives And hell no I don’t want a gay version of love island. I’d argue that it would perpetuate the stereotypes, If they have to play to a straight audience.

[@diyabasu5498]

No

[@chrisamies2141]

This is my issue with "corporate diversity". It pushes the idea that everyone regardless of gender, sexuality, ability, race etc, must want the same things and to live in the same way.

[@clementbullshit451]

your diction gives off a humongous Julie Andrews energy (or maybe a Ben dela Creme as Julie Andrews energy, who knows) to me, and I'm LIVING for it

[@karacoconutag]

I totally hear the Ben Dela Creme as Julie Andrews energy and I love it

[@constantreader1422]

i kept wondering who i was reminded of, THANK YOU.

[@clementbullshit451]

@@constantreader1422 you're welcome love

[@theswordidtruth]

See, people start talking about a gay Love Island and I start to get all kinds of unhappy feelings about the concept of then trying to separate it into "tops" vs "bottoms" and then I just... cringe at the stereotyping it would bring.

[@rukissketchbook9803]

I paused my music and came and ran here! 😌💞 Your videos are so fun to listen to when I draw!

[@nat91307]

what kind of music do you like

[@Blaquelire]

Sorry, you paused your music, came and then ran here? Damn girl, lol. 😏😂

[@rukissketchbook9803]

@@nat91307 Citypop and idie Japanese songs these days haha!!

[@rukissketchbook9803]

@@Blaquelire HAHAHAH 😭Yeah I love listening to video essays!

[@small-boi]

the bi season of "are you the one" was fire btw. a little bit of drama, sure, but overall super wholesome and positive.

[@om-boi]

They could do coupling through texting. Contestants could pick their #1 #2 #3 choice and text that to the producers, then they get texted back to announce the results. The seasons would be best if cast was all men for a gay season. All female for a wlw season. And then a mix of genders for a bi/pan season. It’s doable.

[@vainpiers]

I vote for putting them all together and seeing what happens

[@matthewmcneany]

In the simplest possible terms: Some executive at ITV sat down and worked out/guessed that more homophobes would switch off if they put queer people on the show than the number of additional viewers who would be gained from doing so, so those executives came up with some bullshit to justify not doing the thing that would result in less viewers and this is the decision and context within which 'the queers' have some legitimately frustration.

[@deaththekid3998]

Companies will always do what brings more profit, that’s their goal. That’s why society has to change first.

[@matthewmcneany]

​@@deaththekid3998 Huh? I wrote a brief reply that seemed entirely uncontroversial to me and it appears to have been caught in some sort of filter. Apologies.

[@HadalStreetlights]

@@deaththekid3998 companies will only do those things if they arent bigoted. it's a simple economic fact that businesses perform better when they have the largest marketable demographic. such is negatively impacted by bigotry of any form. bigotry is bad for business and isnt promoted by capitalism because it satisfies the bottom line, but because it keeps the classes divided and prevents class unity, not because it's somehow "bad for business" to be inclusive. the go woke go broke crowd dont understand basic business lol

[@andreapereyra2205]

FINALLYYYY!!! I’ve been waiting for this oneee

[@isaacwalters747]

"she trotted off in a huff... Or a moo?" I'm sorry but you can't change my mind that she trotted off in a hoof 🤣🤣🤣 I'll see myself out

[@rw7873]

I see LGBTQ+. I click. I see Tara. I click. I see both. I SMASH!

[@opieniek]

Nothing makes a day better that Tara’s video

[@BlackZynfyndel]

As much as I enjoy watching Love Island, I know this would be a trash idea. I just enjoy laughing at the absurdity of the cis heteros they cast.

[@sash_iii]

i recently watched the 8th season of 'are you the one' in which all 16 cast members are bi/pan and actually really enjoyed it! it's an example of a dating show that was straight to begin with but managed to successfully alter the format for a queer season. i think it managed to get a wide range of ppl on from many different backgrounds, including a trans person and an nb person, and to me it felt like it didn't reinforce the 'all bi ppl are promiscuous' stereotype. i'd be interested to hear what you think of it if you ever decide to watch it!

[@complainielainie]

“I’m not like other girls, I can’t swim” I spat my coffee out cackling lmao

[@lastingjoy]

It took until 3 minutes in to notice what was on Tara's swimsuit😂 If that's legitimately the only swimsuit you own, I love that for you

[@baum7275]

while i respect your “optics” argument, hearing gay men from essex yelling “i look like a fuvking mug!” is something i would like to see

[@Inug4mi]

I also actually don’t like paying a man’s way either, but I will pay my own. I bet that’s too “feminist” for him, too.

[@renee1961]

Yay! Hey, Tara! 🙋🐮🐮🐮 Happy to see you! Made a bad day better! Thank You!☺️🤗🤗💐Ps. Hello to the Cow!🐄🐄🐄

[@ScarlettWoodall]

Great vid! The producer trick they really should have used is the old "Quietly cast a couple of minority talents without praising ourselves,because then others will". That trick works so well,I'm shocked execs ever do anything else.

[@verzrc2772]

So are you guys straight or logistical difficulties?

[@_thismess]

“logistical difficulty” becoming a meme was hilarious to watch happen lol. Like people say are you straight or are you a logistical difficulties. Great video I’m loving it so far!

[@Sparkle__Punk]

"Are they straight, or are they... Y'know... A logistical difficulty?"

[@19darkwolfangel99]

3:34 I had to stopp the video at that "F* no! The straights can keep it!", because I started laughing uncontrollably. 10/10 Video.

[@anniemelin4729]

Was having a terrible day , but here is this gem. Thanks Tara

[@AshleyIsArtsy]

I think at the end of the day, I'm just TIRED, as a queer person, of having to deal w all the fighting stereotypes and worrying about optics when straight people can just.... do that crazy shit on TV and it's fine, lmao

[@sleepysammi]

A while back I was listening to a morning radio show and the topic of bisexuality came up. One of the hosts said that if his girlfriend came out as bisexual, he would be upset and break up with her because he wouldn't want to share her with a woman and she needs to be free to fulfill her needs. He didn't say this in a hateful way, and the other hosts did correct him, but I was still taken aback upon hearing it. Yet I couldn't really feel angry at him or blame him for thinking that because he seemed to genuinely not know and that's just how bisexuals are often portrayed in media. It wasn't even the first time I heard someone say something like that. While I have not watched Love Island, I do know that romance reality shows generally thrive on their guests behaving in scandalous and outrageous ways, and an all bi season or series would most likely just spread and reinforce that sort of thinking.

[@4thUlquiorra]

On another episode of "Are the straights doing okay?" Quick answer, no.

[@om-boi]

I want a Lesbian Love Island.

[@beepbloop3335]

I was waiting for you to do a video on love island! I was just thinking 'when is tara gonna post a love island video?'

[@nicole-qe7br]

As a pansexual, i strongly agree with this. We dont need shitty representation, we already have enough bullsh1t in our day to day life

[@Tomodance33]

Pansexual what a joke

[@tollpatschigersim]

I'm from Germany and we have a dating show for gay men (prince charming) and one for women (princess charming). They are both amazing and I (as someone who has these two shows to watch) wouldn't need Love Island for gays because these two shows are already amazing! Funnily enough I have a Sims 4 love island series on my channel we're everyone can get with everyone because it's just more fun🥳 but on the other hand I wouldn't throw the contestants under the bus like real-life producers would probably do🙃 anyways... loved your video like always💖

[@npsck1802]

I really do wish someone would make a queer dating show though, but produced by people who actually care and who know the community, and that’s because I think it would be both heartwarming and potentially the funniest reality show to date

[@matthewhopson964]

Things like love island are tacky and degrading, why would anyone want to be on something like that or want to see anyone , in any way, that they have anything in common, on that?

[@stinkyvik]

thank you, was waiting for this, babes, very lovely, very good for my sleep schedule actually 🌿

[@iryba428]

Omg r u Czech? Cuz me too lol

[@stinkyvik]

@@iryba428 yep

[@Sadie-rai]

Not sure if thats a picture of you in your pfp but if it is you are gorgeous and I am very green with envy 😔

[@stinkyvik]

@@Sadie-rai well, yes, thank you, i'm sure that you're gorgeous too tho

[@graygarland]

I really appreciate you putting your opinions out there on this-it’s something that needs to be acknowledged. I agree, honestly. Sometimes the straights think that inclusion is forcing straight culture on queer people (or forcing us INTO a straight culture format, rather) and I’m not saying that’s what this is but…it’s kind of similar. I don’t want my square peg ass shoved in a round hole. I want producers to thoughtfully craft something that they think queer people will enjoy and that celebrates queerness. Or I don’t want it at all.

[@kayvcx-ib2pe]

OH NO WHERES THE COW!!! edit: nvm I just didn't watch far enough

[@JC-ij9ul]

I find it sad that whenever queer representation is brought up, we kind of feel the need to scrutinize it to make sure it's not going to make us 'look bad' because we simply don't have enough representation going around that we can afford it. Like in a way i want the cheesy romance tv shows as much as i want the serious stuff that makes you reflect and all, but we have a hard time getting anything at all so we end up with not much media to choose from. And obviously queer people often don't agree on what is or isn't 'good' representation to begin with simply because our experiences, although similar in certain meaningful ways, vary a whole lot just like with any other group of individuals, so we have people who are tired of the melodramatic coming out stories and others who don't want comedies that tone down the hardships they've experienced as a queer person... and since influent tv and movie producers will often abandon something unsuccessful on the basis of it being gay and so will avoid anything gay in the future, anything new is make or break. It's like we're stuck at an impasse. anyway

[@rappposo]

having search party on your "not super heavy" show list was really funny to me

[@kali.8608]

Me: *wants a lesbian bachelorette despite how it’d never work*

[@kali.8608]

You know what, I don’t care. I wanna to see the chaos of them all falling in love with each other. It’s fine. I want my personal chaotic life repped on screen

[@ramenboi9836]

You realize each couple would probably plan their weddings by the end of the month?

[@kali.8608]

@@ramenboi9836 in true lesbian u-haul fashion, all the relationships will start with them immediately living together. Classic.

[@missdiction4455]

The soft laugh after “in the club” was just what I needed today.

[@Lemanic89]

I’d love a Love Island show consisting of people within fandoms.

[@cosmicsongbird3047]

I couldn’t find the place that could’ve repaired my laptop battery today. Press f in the chat for sympathies. 😩😔 Also happy Friday everyone lol. 🤪

[@MalMotorDedo]

Not religious, but your content is a blessing 🗿 Although, stop playing with us, WHERE IS THE COW??!!!!

[@aethelredtheready1739]

Ya that is definitely your social circle. I cycle in two social circles, one is very grsm and one is just mostly straight, and there seem to be a lot more of the straight kind. While more and more people are coming out, we are still a smallish minority.

[@Jekyllstein_Gray]

Wait, there's a non-UK Love Island? Britain really loves exporting misery to the rest of the world, doesn't it?

[@mrhopadopalus]

Literally everything said in this video is 100% right, the only thing I would add is that it’s more appropriate to use the UK version for analysis because the other versions are harshly inferior.

[@sophbliss]

"this version appears to be the most disgust online" (not a typo)

[@hildahilda1823]

Tara: *lists off a,b, and c reason why she’s covering uk love island* Me: and because d) American love island fucking sucks 😌

[@nendu4316]

there a version called "are you the one" and it bangs

[@shakibaraki]

love island going bi? yeah no thanks id rather not be subjected to a bunch of wlw fetishisation

[@heythereimlonely5161]

I'm watching from Italy and turns out Likewise is not available here! I expect YOU to fix this personally