I Made Gay Men Watch "I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry"

[@EvasiveOne]

For as negative as this video came off, I wanna clarify that I don’t “hate” this movie and it did actually have a positive effect on some people at the time. By making this movie Adam Sandler Trojan horse’d a lot of people in 2007 into seeing gay people in a more positive light and a lot of comments below back me up on that. If I could re-do this video I’d talk about that more and show that side of the story. This video was earlier in this series and I was still working out the details on how to present movies like this. I may revisit it in the future cause as it stands now it’s an incomplete picture

[@LHZOZ777]

Nahh no way people are mad about criticising a homophobic movie because it could have been more homophobic? Like what

[@EvasiveOne]

@@LHZOZ777 They are but some of them had a point tbh and I’ve found evidence since then that shows this movie actually made some people at the time less homophobic in its own weird little way

[@LHZOZ777]

@@EvasiveOne that's interesting, I'd definitely love to hear more about that side of the story as you said. I don't think you deserve any criticism for the video as it stands right now though

[@BarackLesnar]

I am eagerly awaiting the Dark Evasive arc

[@HoneyBeeBoots]

I am happy it had a positive affect on the public's viewing of gay relationships, but genuinely don't sweat it. If it's homophobic or problematic (which it is) don't feel bad to call that out. Both things can be true at the same time. A lot of the jokes in here are insensitive to not only gay people, but women, people who are obese, etc. Adam Sandler had a history of movies like this- and that's coming from someone who can also see the humor in a lot of them. I always see his movies objectifying women or making fun of a minority- so I don't doubt that there are some ill-thought out jokes in here too. As always, its good to appreciate what the art gives us- but i really think its okay to criticize it for its shortcomings. And there are many. I love your videos and always love seeing what everyone in them has to say! Just hoping you don't feel too bad about some of the responses. They can have their opinions too but genuinely there are some icky jokes.

[@exodiasleftleg]

Can’t believe Adam Sandler invented and ended homophobia all in the same movie

[@TheBlarggle]

"I used the -stones- homophobes to destroy the -stones- homophobes." - Adam "Thanos" Sandler

[@SpadesWinner]

Thats not even possible. Many people is homophobic and older people have used that term before it became main stream.

[@coolcomment8]

I know we're all waiting for the day Eva brings in actual cowboys to watch "Brokeback Mountain"

[@neverendinglute3125]

Horses do kinda send you to the lgbtqia+ realm. We have a long case study of this called my little pony.

[@ThatPurpleGirl81]

Omg this needs to happen like yesterday! 😂

[@eewahnah]

​@@neverendinglute3125and Ket

[@strawberryqueen0382]

I love the idea that the important part of Brokeback Mountain was it’s representation of cowboys

[@thomaskalinowski8851]

@@strawberryqueen0382 I think Brokeback Mountain may even have been the first movie to ever feature cowboys.

[@juiceconstruct]

As bad as it is, I was absolutely baffled that asexuals were mentioned. Like, that never happens and for a STRAIGHT movie to mention it exists? Crazy.

[@thegr8curve]

YEAH SAME as an asexual myself it took me out lmao. Wild

[@Shoulderpads-mcgee]

My cynical ass is sure they were just putting prefixes in front of sexual since we get that bi tri quad bit or it’s just bc of plants but maybe it would be nice to believe we’re seen

[@CiCodiCadno]

If any of y'all want a nice extra boost of validation, I'm currently reading Monsters In The Closet by Harry M Benshoff, a film dissertation written in 1996 and published 1997. In the introduction it mentions asexuals. So if any asshole online claims asexuality is a new Tumblr sexuality invented in 2017, there's proof right there. Asexuals aren't new.

[@kellabdjfoo]

same

[@Silvermoon424]

​@@CiCodiCadno As an ace, that makes me so happy! Thanks for sharing.

[@somethingsuperbland8829]

Ok but the kid doing the splits, punching his bully in the balls, and then tap dancing over his his writhing body on the floor is a fucking icon.

[@NikkiBudders]

straight up my favourite part. I no longer care to know if the kid is gay, he's iconic.

[@somethingsuperbland8829]

@@NikkiBudders same. I hope he’s well. Its always something that’s super homophobic that features one of the best gay moments istg.

[@miraculousabridged2857]

Kid grew up to be Johnny Cage

[@somethingsuperbland8829]

@@miraculousabridged2857 he fuckin would. Add a tap dance emote to Johnny Cage in MK you cowards!

[@miraculousabridged2857]

@@somethingsuperbland8829in MK 11 Johnny’s Friendship is a tap dancing number

[@Newhandle16]

“That’s homophobic,” and “That’s even more gay,” both being uttered by gay men watching the same movie clip filled me with true joy.

[@basementdwellercosplay]

"That's foreplay"

[@BassicallyKiyash]

The Venn diagram between homophobic men and gay men is circle inside a bigger circle

[@BassicallyKiyash]

The Venn diagram between homophobic men and gay men is a circle inside a bigger circle

[@BassicallyKiyash]

The Venn diagram between homophobic men and gay men is a circle inside a bigger circle

[@GWAHGWAHGWAHGWAHGWAHGWAHGWAHGW]

“I lured four gay men to my house with a free screening of Call Me By Your Name,” I’m glad you understand the gays so well

[@jesswise1863]

That movie is so much better than this one

[@mbr4797]

I've never watched it but i heard so many gays hating the movie, also in my friend group. many tiktokers fumed about it bc here yet again two straight actors playing gay roles. whats your thoughts about this? :)

[@jesswise1863]

@@mbr4797 are you talking about “ call me by your name” ?

[@IMModusOperandi]

@@mbr4797 tiktokers fume about everything. just watch it for yourself and decide.

[@utatanepikoV5]

​ I think the problem with the movie is that there's an adult dating a 17 years old @@mbr4797

[@RioZMC]

I love this channel, but I feel threatened by it too. I can't trust random strangers offering me food on the street anymore without being made to watch some sort of weird film I never knew was relevant to me. I walk in constant fear.

[@GnarlyRaePepsi]

I will pray for you

[@naomistarlight6178]

yeah I'm autistic, if we were besties would you tell me you were going to talk about alligators and then show me Music

[@Itcouldbebunnies]

You should come over, there's free pizza.... And Three to Tango😈

[@rodanandme]

@@naomistarlight6178 OH MY GOD (also hello autistic bestie we would be on the panel together)

[@Misora7303]

​@@naomistarlight6178that would be cruel

[@genrecritical]

it's become too easy for us gay men lately, thank you for giving us good representation

[@silverofthesunbears]

@ville__If being gay was a choice I’d be gayer

[@MaeveBowral]

🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@nostalji93]

"too easy" ? This gives me some serious "f**ing men was only cool when it was illegal" hipster vibes. xD

[@freeedward8]

Good representation of gay men??!!! The invited gay men here do not represent the spectrum of gay men--where are the masculine gay men??? The majority of actual gay men do not present themselves as feminine--that's why society is unaware of who is gay and who is straight. Present reality--not stereotypes!

[@MetastaticMaladies]

⁠@@nostalji93 I mean… it was.

[@DarkArt888]

Describing a woman's breasts as "creamy" sounds like something chat GBT would come up with if asked to minic the mannerisms of a straight guy.

[@12Tecpatl]

Chat Gay Bisexual Trans

[@roxassora2706]

Male authors: *furious typing*

[@Skyavanger]

Captain hold ahh description

[@cozymoggele]

I got major ick when in the office Dwight called Katie's skin creamy 😫 definitely intended in that piece of media, definitely successful

[@skyethinkstheirafairy]

this is the type of movie your “trying not to be homophobic” dad would show you after you come out to him.

[@randomgarbage8023]

my dad did this 😔

[@nigachu8249]

L dad

[@dukestandard4743]

Think about how YOU got here.....your dad's not gonna get it or completely understand, overnight...

[@WitchKing-Of-Angmar]

​@@dukestandard4743 I hate people who don't understand that.

[@Kolbatsu]

fun fact: the concept of homophobia was invented in July, 20th, 2007 the exact day and year I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry premiered

[@amberwingtundrawing776]

Why did this come out on my birthday😢

[@Shaaydiia07]

19 days after my birth 💀

[@ghost.and.gills.]

@@amberwingtundrawing776HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

[@legallyawarcriminal4524]

Um I think you mean that was the day homophobia ENDED. ☝️🤓

[@JoseSerrato0420]

​@@legallyawarcriminal4524It started and ended within 1hr. Adam Sandler invented Pride Parades just to promote the movie. Adam Sandler gave Marsha P Johnson a brick and told her to throw it at cops...she didn't but Adam leaked info that she, in fact, did.

[@thegoblinking279]

its honestly so crazy how the original version of the script sounds more like a romantic dramady akin to Falsettos. and instead we got This.

[@Lemoncakelover678]

The fact that this movie actually had potential to be good makes it even more disappointing tbh

[@swain-Ix1tv]

​@@Lemoncakelover678they idol'ed it

[@tamarbeker1701]

Yeah can we find the original script somewhere?

[@EvasiveOne]

@@tamarbeker1701I think as far as we know the original script is lost media

[@everfluctuating]

petition for a do-over with the original script

[@transstarry2133]

As a gay man (I think), I can say that "I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry" was absolutely groundbreaking and historians find it to be the first instance of homosexuality

[@looney1023]

Mmmm they give "roommate" vibes. Everyone knows homosexuality was invented in 2009 by Sacha Baron Cohen in the film Brüno.

[@RancorousSea]

Chuck and Larry were only roommates!!!!

[@FreakdOut]

Nah just Domestic Partners.@@RancorousSea

[@kidlewinter5027]

Epic of Gilgamesh is out looking for wood

[@ashkaunadib7638]

I think this movie was way more offensive to women and Asian people than gay people. Which is an incredible feat 🤣😂

[@warmlavender5525]

For real 😂

[@jhonhoppins522]

genuinely, I hate Adam Sandler solely because of the types of movies hes in

[@please_im_a_staaar]

Evasive giving the gays phallic things to snack on throughout the video is a very strategic move, good job.

[@cowboys846]

The ONLY slay gay "empowerment" in this nightmarish barrage of Adam Sandler's truly putrid permission slip to be gay is when the gay kid did a death drop split/nutpunch on the child bully and tapdanced to celebrate the pain he caused.

[@sadfaerie5817]

That scene lives rent free in my brain

[@tamarbeker1701]

Literally perfection

[@raveneskridge3143]

truly, the only moment worth anything in the whole dumpster fire.

[@Chuck_EL]

I laughed for a good three minutes at the bully's crying 😂😂

[@LD-tn6ff]

I mean, maybe with a fully realized perspective. From the straight "Sandler" perspective, it was an exaggerated joke for how he envisioned an effeminate, gay boy to engage in physical confrontations (ie. he cant picture gay men fighting well). Its the EXACT reason why we will still be decades away from ever featuring a gay man (let alone effeminate gay man), as the leading star of an action movie

[@hoofyrider]

There is a part in Bojack Horseman where Jessica Biel (she plays herself) is talking to her husband and says something like, "I'm about to be in a very important gay rights movie called I know pronounce you Chuck and Larry" and I think I laughed at that line more than I would have at the actual movie.

[@EvasiveOne]

I completely forgot about that line and now I’m disappointed I didn’t include it

[@Uncle_Ruckus_]

So the movie is much more memorable. LMAO self own

[@franklinbadge1215]

Unbelievable! Un-Jessica-Biel-lievable!

[@guaranteedtopwn]

@@Uncle_Ruckus_ did you comprehend what you responded to?

[@Uncle_Ruckus_]

@@guaranteedtopwn you didnt comprehend. A few people did what you failed at look how many thumb ups I got

[@eligraves3071]

The original script sounds...so so nice. This is knowledge I'll forever mourn. Legitimately, what a perversion of an art form.

[@Lemoncakelover678]

It's sounds like an actual quality movie that seems to be pro LGBT. On the plus side, since it's scrapped, you can use that idea to bring it to reality. Like they say, one man's garbage becomes another man's treasure. It's one of the beauties of art.

[@carimeslockdownedtree2654]

​@@Lemoncakelover678 wouldn't that bring legal issues? I don't know much on the topic but I'm sure they could sue you for plagiarism. Unless it's just copying the very vague idea of it, its shadows, and making it your own. Inspiration, not a copy. Meaning, this unfinished masterpiece would still be lost to time 😔

[@Lemoncakelover678]

​@@carimeslockdownedtree2654true though, especially in this case where someone else changed the story for them. We can try to replicate though will always wonder what couldve been unfortunately

[@HarpsiFizz]

I know, I know... but you know the saying "it'll never play in Peoria"? That was how it was at the time. We should be really glad that it's not like that today. And heck, maybe even thankful, because this was a stepping stone to get to where we are today.

[@lilpenn7516]

If you want a better version of this film you should watch Strange Bedfellows. It's literally the exact same movie but better. It's not the best but it's a lot better.

[@Simon-ih5ev]

“This is before glee btw” WELL EXCUSE ME SIR, BUT THIS IS _AFTER_ HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL

[@leeterredeemed9527]

I desperately want a Nicholas Cage movie about two men getting gay married for benefits. Like i know that sounds like a trainwreck, but if you don't want to see that you're a liar.

[@PhDFl0pp]

As a gay man, you did pretty good on the food, I too love rainbow cereal and candy along with phallic shaped food

[@Romanticoutlaw]

could have done with some rainbow dick shaped lollypops from spencers

[@APhizzle]

It’s Fruity Pebbles and Warhead Pickles 24/7 for me.

[@raveneskridge3143]

not just rainbow, but fruity stuff xD

[@LifesNeverHumDrum]

It’s the fact that it was a VEGAN sausage that really sold it

[@trevorwiley5098]

The cultural impact of this movie can not be understated. Just 8 years later, gay marriage would be legalised nationwide ❤

[@raveneskridge3143]

lolol

[@thbemky827]

but they made people feel uncomfortable... so it cant be a good movie ... werent you paying attention to the sarcastic narrator? GEEZ!!

[@demetriam2408]

​@@thbemky827huh

[@jigsaw_fallingg]

@@thbemky827 they are also being sarcastic

[@malchikbolnoy]

just 8 whole fucking years later? what a pathetic defence

[@jackflash3059]

Fun video but you guys missed the ICONIC hollywood heartthrob Richard Chamberlain, who didn't come out until he was 68, playing the city councillor "judge" figure at the end. Huge cameo at the time. :)

[@EvasiveOne]

I realized that after I uploaded! I eventually want to re-do this video and when I do I will be sure to mention that

[@Calakapepe]

​@@EvasiveOnelol you're gonna trick more of your friends or the same group AGAIN??😅😅

[@jilbertosoto]

I loved doing this! So much fun!

[@mlee-w664]

We love a problematic Queen

[@miranda2smoke794]

More of these please so funny 😂😂

[@DanialTarki]

6:57 …and also the guy states that he’s far from okay. He’s fucking pissed.

[@MartijnPennings]

This video was the most fun I've ever had involving Adam Sandler

[@Ben-kv7wr]

Adam Sandler in 2007 saying don’t say f*ggot was a cultural reset in Massachusetts like you have no idea

[@albertlassiter8608]

exactly - like, the "it was a different time" argument doesn't erase harm, but it can acknowledge how something can be helpful in some ways while also being hurtful in others

[@itsjuanpacheco]

You know, as a gay man I guess I’m going to have to defend this movie. I live in Puerto Rico, where everyone guy is “MACHISTA” or “manly man”. So when they see this movie, they somewhat become more soft on our cause. Seeing Sandler and James (kings of guy humor) “advocate” lets them know that it’s okay to be here for us. I know it’s stupid to defend this movie but that’s the one positive thing I can get out of it.

[@lav-kitty]

living in the somewhat most homophobic country, with parents that try not to be ignorant on LGBTQ+, fail to, and like this kind of movie humour, same.

[@KernelHughes]

That's a good point. A film could help change a person's POV even it's imperfect and low-brow

[@josephmother2659]

@@KernelHughesit’s lazy and stupid, but i can certainly see how it could be seen as endearing (the characters and the concept of being gay as a whole) which is… something

[@raveneskridge3143]

honestly, friend, if this movie, as tasteless as it is, can do something good for you in your community, then it's worth it. it's not stupid to defend something that's made a tangible change in your life.

[@roems6396]

I don’t know why anyone would be mad about it. Exposing people to things they are prejudiced against helps weaken that prejudice. Movies showing that gay lifestyle is not something strange or alien, and is just love, helps the gay community. Hating on this movie for being homophobic is the extreme left wing position that people are getting tired of hearing. Yeah, it’s not perfect, but it had good intentions.

[@claudioluis1545]

This movie is the equivalent of that straight guy that goes "come on, guys" when his group of friends makes a homophobic joke

[@arandomhashbrown3756]

100% accurate

[@Fireroderickcummings]

Is bad I did this as a child in middle school 😭

[@arandomhashbrown3756]

@@Fireroderickcummings I don't think is much of a problem

[@jurgnobs1308]

come on guys? sounds pretty gay

[@claudioluis1545]

@@jurgnobs1308 i'm gay, i have no idea how they talk

[@GodtierWaifu]

can’t believe adam sandler invented homosexuality AND homophobia in the same movie

[@karissasmith7972]

so sweet of you to keep the gays hydrated

[@ActuallyHoudini]

i thought they were allergic to water

[@juanjuri6127]

​@@ActuallyHoudini they're allergic to the heavy minerals present in tap water. it's safe to water your gays with filtered water!

[@jaimerivera4332]

You jest but I refuse to drink tap water so... @@juanjuri6127

[@527human]

theres a movie from the 1960s called the Gay Deceivers and it's certainly interesting. Its about two straight men who pretend to be in a relationship to avoid the draft. The bts is what's interesting. One of the main characters was played by a man who was actually gay, and apparently, he had to rewrite a lot of it so it wasn't as homophobic. Could be an interesting watch.

[@repulsethemonkey1396]

God I've had the "I may not know my flowers but I know a bitch when I see one" line stuck in my head for days now for some reason

[@seanmce8132]

For the era it came from it was surprisingly progressive.

[@Liam-mv9zi]

I mean a movie called “The Gay Deceivers” already has red flags before I even see it

[@kelseyjaffer]

was the gay actor out at the time?

[@527human]

@@kelseyjaffer yes

[@CiCodiCadno]

"I'm desperate for views so im giving homophobia a try" is absolutely iconic. I'm stoked for the rest of the video

[@arugulafriend]

As a “gay” and perhaps even a “trans” I’m uh watching all ur vids and having an Fantastic time thank u for ur service

[@molar_king]

oh I LOVE your pfp and banner they are absolutely gorgeous!!!

[@cassiopeiacrow9707]

I love the constant "what did they say?" and "ugh there are subtitles"

[@OnlyARide]

this series is genius because no matter how bad the movie is, the LGBTs will always find a way to make it funny

[@thatgh0stvariety814]

I'm a bi trans man and I've watched this movie like 4 times with my friends because discussing it and joking about it with loved ones is a magical experience

[@JackedThor-so]

I think it says a lot about me that I was immediately invested in The New Guy as a character and was immediately like, shove off these two chucklefucks, I wanna see a comedy about a masculine tough guy coming to terms with his sexuality and experiencing gayness for the first time.

[@terra-byte]

It’s been a second but… you might have just described Moonlight

[@hourofberries]

I love the immediate disappointment and realization from the gay men that this was not in fact Call Me By Your Name but in fact was I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry

[@300DBenz]

This movie confused the hell out of me: on one hand there was Jessica Beil in a catsuit and underwear, which I liked....on the other hand there was Ving Rames dancing in the shower, which I also liked (hence the confused 25 y.o. me). And on the 3rd hand, there was the portrayal of men who liked men.....which was so bad it made my bisexuality slam the closet door shut and lock it from the inside for 20 years.

[@albertlassiter8608]

and since (according to this movie) bi people don't exist, I imagine that didn't help

[@wylierichardson-tu6zs]

so if you only hooked up with women during those two decades, you actually had a pretty good time, I would think. lol

[@vincentslashmarshall]

luring gay men with "call me by your name" explains the lack of gay black men

[@mrmrfahrenheit9127]

You use Moonlight for this

[@Unpoeticirony]

I’m living for the palpable tension between “New York” boy and “Cant hear the movie” boy. Would watch a documentary on their feud.

[@Marenks]

Ah yes, the movie who's plot implode by the existence of bisexuality.

[@sadfaerie5817]

I mean that is the case for most people so 🤷‍♀️🤣🤣🤣

[@albertlassiter8608]

for real tho - the whole time Adam Sandler's character is like "oh no, they cant know I ever slept with a woman!" .. and its like, dude why all the bi-erasure

[@facuuu2809]

​@@albertlassiter8608ikr? Why?

[@crowing3886]

I mean they mention bisexuality in the movie but dont actually apply it weirdly.

[@devforfun5618]

they were also married, so it also required a polyamorous relationship or an open relationship

[@astro-pp5xq]

as a gay , I have a shrine of adam sandler under my bed and I thank him every night for being the international savior and right giver of gay people.

[@Fireroderickcummings]

I understand why people try to cancel Adam Sandler he what are the most nicest people on the planet name me one person name me a friend of yours that will buy you a freaking car for all of your friends not just you

[@vinnym5607]

In 2007, Adam Sandler really said "Let's bring back the Mickey Rooney character from 'Breakfast at Tiffany's"

[@danshaw1096]

The best thing I can say for it is that at least Schneider himself is part Asian. Still not sure if that helps, especially since his grandmother was from the Philippines and I can't say for the life of me what that characters accent was supposed to be

[@grantoverton8603]

The difference between Chuck and Larry making those sex jokes and What We Do in the Shadows is that What We Do in the Shadows uses it more as a “They’re vampires and don’t know how normal humans talk about their relationships”. Chuck and Larry just use it as a gay joke. I laughed at What We Do in the Shadows because I could tell it was more about them just not knowing how humans speak and with Chuck and Larry I just felt uncomfortable because it was just two dudes trying to lie about having gay sex.

[@gnalkhere]

You treat your hostages in such a caring way

[@Migrane0]

This isn't an LGBTQ+ film. This is a film by cis-het men, for cis-het men, about how it's OK to be gay. Now that isn't a bad thing on paper, sometimes people need someone from their own in-group to advocate for something to understand why they should care. But this films sloppy execution dilutes the message. By make all the gay characters just shallow jokes to be laughed at it turns the message into, it's OK to be gay but it's not OK to be yourself, ultimately negating itself.

[@seanmce8132]

I think for an Adam Sandler movie it was as sensitive and progressive as it possibly could be, in that it has as much love, thought and effort put into it as any of his other movies after WaterBoy.

[@AngryPug76]

By the standards of the day, this movie about living as an open gay couple while also living a lie in a sham “marriage” while pretending to have a different sexuality for healthcare (both make it a LGBTQ film directed at homophobes who were tricked into watching a movie they expected to only ridicule queer people) was downright Woke. Conservatives hated it with a passion. And by Hollywood standards of the day, had they been more mature in their approach at least a couple of gay guys would have been killed off in the story because gay characters then were limited to punchline, leading actress’s side kick, or corpse. Instead they kept the queer stereotypes that were basically required to make and market the movie, and made the straight characters look more buffoonish in thought and deed to present the queer characters as being equal to if not better than the straights.

[@yeaaahbuddy1991]

tHe MeSsAgE 🥴

[@crowing3886]

​@@AngryPug76exactly, people try TOO hard to deny how progressive this movie was an don't even acknowledge the low score an critic panning was all centered around homophobic views. Same thing people do with rocky horror picture show

[@CharlotteSWeb-oh7ou]

@@crowing3886 Well, Rocky Horror is a transmisogynist shitpile that TME people need to stop holding onto as some kind of "queer" masterwork when it is so vile towards trans women. People are allowed to point out the bigotry.

[@carlhilber2275]

Im sorry, but Steve Buscemi can sell any dumb line, "what is this, gays of our lives?", hilarious.

[@sagenaw7137]

I can't believe Adam Sandler (honorary lesbian) did this

[@dragonetafireball]

Why would investigators care that much if they where faking it they’re barely even benefiting from being married

[@cardigans98]

Rip to the gay guy who can't read the subtitles 💀

[@rgs8970]

i can't read subtitles when people are talking either, it just completely shorts out my brain

[@cardigans98]

@@rgs8970 sounds like a skill issue

[@Sh12pen]

I'm kind of the reverse of that ​@@rgs8970

[@theekatspajamas]

​@cardigans98 there are a number of reasons someone would have trouble with that, such as adhd. Let's not be ableist.

[@anxiousscribe]

​@@theekatspajamasIronically, I need subtitles because I have auditory processing issues. It's kind of the same side of the coin.

[@65Toronto65]

You need to make lesbians watch chasing Amy 😂

[@averyjeanne]

As a lesbian I second this!

[@65Toronto65]

@@averyjeanne I’m lesbian and my girlfriend and I tried to watch this and we only made it 20 minutes in

[@moosetasticbombastic1998]

honestly surprised Eva hasn't done it already tbh

[@rogerdodger1984]

I dunno, im not a lesbian, but as a young queer kid, i really appreciated Chasing Amy. Maybe because I was young in 1997 and I had never really seen a queer character like Alyssa so fully own who they were, but I respect others opinions on it. I just dont think its nearly as bad as the movies Evasive usually forces people to watch.

[@65Toronto65]

I get where you coming from here but I think it promotes dangerous tropes that if lesbians just find the right guy they can turn straight @@rogerdodger1984

[@randomgeekcrap]

Adam Sandler is so progressive tho he played a gay man and a woman its amazing

[@everfluctuating]

hes got all the genders now

[@Fireroderickcummings]

@@everfluctuating why when you said this are you immediately thought of Adam Sandler with an infinity gauntlet with all the genders 😂😂😂

[@toast47178]

​@@Fireroderickcummings the GEMders if you will (I'm sorry)

[@bluestar4408]

@@everfluctuatingGotta catch em all!

[@DeadpoolNegative]

When this film came out, I read one review that said something to the effect of "this movie is like they were told they couldn't make any gay jokes anymore so they decided to get every gay joke possible into one movie." Now, I wouldn't say that's a completely accurate description of the film... but it is very close.

[@ZeliBnnuy]

Crazy how Rob did brown and yellow face through his career and he’s still more concerned about people wanting to live as themselves in peace, BROTHER WORRY AB WHAT YOU’RE DOING

[@jessicaholscher4097]

3:04 i hate the "consider the time period" argument. um, i'm 41, at this point, i was there, i was everywhere, and it was still not cool back then. I remember seeing this and thinking, "that looks terrible and problematic" And rob schneider's racist characters have all been horrible and out of date way before he even played them.

[@roems6396]

I’m the same age, and you’re wrong. It has a positive message hidden inside a dude-bro comedy. Of course there are going to be problems. But any exposure of topics containing prejudice help to reduce that prejudice. It’s a dumb movie. But I guarantee that there were a few people that came out of it slightly less homophobic than they were before.

[@fuckerbitchcuntfag]

​@roems6396 yeah and tbh i agree with you but at the same time i can totally understand the op point of view, "time period" wasn't exactly the mid 60s lol there were people who were progressive in the 00s, u would see it more in certain scenes that were always known for being more progressive like punks and communities that were known to involved politics so even if this a was mainstream type of humor u could see that there were people not being okay with this and ofc ppl in the lgbt community i come from a more conservative background and at the moment, i did see a positive in it but ofc it wasn't exactly the best

[@roems6396]

@@fuckerbitchcuntfag Anything from the 2000s prior to Facebook, KZbin, and Twitter becoming mainstream media is still considered the 90s to me. Nothing changed that drastically and the sensibilities were still nearly the same. Sure, there had been progress for the LGBT community, but it was nothing compared to where we are today. “For it’s time” is relevant with this movie.

[@demetriam2408]

​​@@roems6396and there were people who came out worse too. Doesn't change the use of slurs and racial charicatures.

[@roems6396]

@@demetriam2408 Doubt it. Do you have any examples of people coming out worse? Of course not. You’re just making that up. And people use slurs. It’s real to life. Pretending that it doesn’t exist is not a good thing.

[@flagfriend]

I'm here, and I'm a gay man. Let's fucking go Edit: Unironically love cucumbers, good food choices

[@KylePitre]

never thought i would ever in my lifetime see someone claim they were gay and then say "LFG"

[@lav-kitty]

​@@KylePitre I say that every day as I wake up

[@callerunknown]

Cucumbers a fucking awesome, underrated vegetable imo

[@alptraum7644]

as someone who was attempting to be a straight girl back in 2007 and later realized i was trans, "straight women can become gay men" killed me.

[@indigothecat]

Adam Sandler is keeping the lights on over here, lol. Thanks for taking my suggestion! ❤ I'm looking forward to the next (blank) people react to (blank) movie!

[@darthekul1]

As a straight guy who watched 2000's comedys and laughed at the sexism and racism and lgbt phobia , and also somehow thought this movie was pro lgbt , and somehow made me more accepting of trans people and i thought the pride scene was fun and made me actually look at pride events and have a frank watching dennis "i get it moment" itgoing to be awesome to rip this movie apart now i have a (mostly ) adult functioning brain Ps you can totally roast me for the past

[@Romanticoutlaw]

imo it's more honorable to have started from a bad position and actively improved rather than to have just been born perfect

[@swain-Ix1tv]

​@@Romanticoutlawyeah like me personally I wouldn't roast this guy, growth is admirable and if shitty vaguely gay media turns you accepting, good for you!

[@LordBigSlime]

"This movie took me from an ignorant mega-phobic mentality, showed me pride parades and made me more accepting of trans people while being the catalyst to my realization of ignorance. Fuck this movie!" Weird take, to be honest.

[@swain-Ix1tv]

@@LordBigSlime not at all lol

[@ithinkiwoulddie9196]

@@LordBigSlimewtf are you on about

[@idontneedaname318]

When i realized that you genuinely actually told them they were watch Call Me By Your name i started shriekign with laughter

[@theohdear9293]

Now do "I made Chuck and Larry watch gay men" and it's just footage of them sitting in a couch for 2 hours

[@swain-Ix1tv]

yeah!

[@demetriam2408]

I imagine sitting inside a couch would be quite uncomfortable actually

[@theohdear9293]

I imagine being from an english speaking country is quite uncomfortable

[@demetriam2408]

@@theohdear9293 I don't disagree

[@Taylor-gb5gf]

I like that the movie tries to present Adam Sandler slapping people who call him f*ggot as a progressive thing when it essentially reads as him feeling emasculated and needing to reassert his masculinity through violence

[@wylierichardson-tu6zs]

being gay and being 'emasculated' are two different things, tho. True, there are straight men who balk at being called that. But how many straight guys actively pass themselves off as being gay? That is what Adam is doing in this movie, remember.

[@McP1mpin]

It only reads that way if you ignore all the context surrounding it. For one, he casually used the word himself earlier in the movie which means he has since realized that it's an offensive term towards gay people. He's also pretending to be gay so there's no reason why he would be offended by being called that word unless he found the word specifically offensive towards gay people. Imagine if you were a white supremacist who was dressed in black face and you were called the n-word. Do you think you would be angry by that? No, you would be proud of that because that's how you feel towards your pretend self. It's the same concept here.

[@saulgoodthey]

what is so fascinating to me is that this movie has the bones of every gay fake dating fanfic that dominates ao3, but the skin desperately stapled on top has the most weak-willed self-conscious heterosexual aura perhaps ever seen of the particular week of the 2000s that this movie came out on

[@mrsparkle9048]

That Rob Schneider cameo was pretty egregious even by 2007 standards, they likely only got away with it because Schneider is himself part Filipino.

[@amberwingtundrawing776]

I forgot he was mixed but that's still crazy. He's basically stereotyping a part of himself for a white audience then

[@hambor12]

he's 1/4 filipino from his grandmother's side iirc

[@tdarkhorse4]

@@amberwingtundrawing776 he's even worse in 8 crazy nights, which is startling when you consider he's also the narrator.

[@looney1023]

Today I learned

[@Chuck_EL]

​@@hambor12true and he's mostly Jewish

[@imagine875]

There was an Australian film in 2004 with the same premise called Strange Bedfellows, which to my knowledge handled the situation much better. Including acknowledging bisexuality as an obvious cover for straight attraction, and one of their kids coming out as gay. If you can track it down you should do a follow-up.

[@EvasiveOne]

It’s on my list! 📝

[@JadeCryptOfWonders]

Wouldn’t it be hilarious if you made these same gay guys watch Strange Bedfellows and they had to critique a very similar film? I watched it recently and it’s nowhere near as bad as Chuck and Larry.

[@Chuck_EL]

​@@EvasiveOne I just realized Kevin James used his actual last name, Valentine His brother played his younger cousin In King of Queens despite he's older than Kevin

[@EvasiveOne]

@@Chuck_EL wait I thought his real last name was Knipfing

[@Chuck_EL]

@@EvasiveOne Oh yes sorry I forgot I was remembering his brother went by Garry Valentine for his comedy acting roles

[@Kevinblue035]

i can't wait for "there are no asexual movies so i made asexual people watch "Pokemon The Movie 2000""

[@SamanthaC641]

That would actually go so hard, I love that movie.

[@billwenham]

I refused to ever see this movie yet here I am watching your video after discovering your channel. Your presentation is absolutely hysterical.

[@Awwscrewit]

I think I'm just as offended that this somehow cost 85 million to make.

[@choerim]

Oh god, this movie. I watched it back when I was a baby gay who didn't realize their own gayness yet and was just getting sucked into queer cinema. I had a cishet friend who didn't get it at all, so to show her why I found gay movies interesting we looked up a list with recommendations. I picked this one since I haven't seen it before and whatever the summary on that website was, it made it look interesting. Needless to say, after we watched it my friend still didn't get it, and I erased most of that experience from my brain.

[@bouie3983]

As bad as the movie is this was the first movie i saw queer characters in that weren't the side character. And the first movie i saw my mom watch that she didn't turn off because of the gay characters. So even how bad it is with the sterotypes it did help me become more comfortable in my sexuality.

[@ThePi314Man]

Sometimes people just need to be met where they are at. This movie very much appeals to the type of person who thinks making fun of The Gays™ is the height of comedy. People like that are more likely to get it through their head that they're wrong watching this than watching something like Brokeback Mountain.

[@albertlassiter8608]

@@ThePi314Man exactly! while this movie has many problematic elements, it was also appealing to an audience (a set of people, based in the culture of that day) and helped to move things in a helpful way .. does it have things that could have been added or removed to be less harmful? absolutely. but it also helped in a little bit, which I think is helpful to also aknowledge

[@dannhoff6646]

I know there's a theme going on with these, but I think it would be funny if you made gay men watch Fight Club. Like, there's something so intrinsically homoerotic about that movie...

[@rzjennings]

yeah i think doing subtextually queer and trans films mixed in with this series could be fun. I made lesbians watch Johnny Guitar maybe.

[@jasmijnwellner6226]

Considering the author of the book it was based on, I don't think that's a coincidence!

[@ThePi314Man]

That's intentional. Fight Club was originally a book written by a gay man exploring the contradictory masculinity he grew up in.

[@fuckerbitchcuntfag]

fight club is gay af thats just periodt

[@JericaJeffrey-o4k]

​​​@@ThePi314Manthank u for this comment. if anyone else is interested james somerton does a fantastic deep dive on fight club and other "gay media." edit: *lol probably should try to find the original source he stole that analysis from at some point

[@I_can_do_20_push-ups]

I remember as a small child the ads for this movie helped me understand that there were other people like me in the world just by the nature of it presenting two men getting together as even an option. I ended up seeing it years later and it was very homophobic and, more importantly, extremely shitty lol

[@demongirlfriend]

the impact of I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry really cannot be understated

[@BlazingLimeJello]

I was 10 when this movie came out. My mom went with a friend to see it in theaters, and I remember her coming home and hootin' and hollerin' about how absolutely funny it was. Which, in hindsight, is foreshadowing as to why I don't speak to my mother anymore.

[@finchblue7322]

The lawyer's infatuation with gay men holds boundless potential for a gay trans man self discovery arc for her ... or HIS ... character

[@vampsarecool]

The saddest thing about this movie was it had such potential of becoming a cult classic satire like but I'm a cheerleader....until Adam Sandler got his hands on it..

[@wylierichardson-tu6zs]

this movie actually did decent box office, tho.

[@McP1mpin]

What are you talking about? The original version doesn't sound like a satirical movie at all. Do you even know what that word means?

[@marcusbell9631]

I know this can't be right but the kid doing the splits to punch the bully and then tap-dancing? I think that was positive gay representation. Absolutely nothing else was, but that? I'd allow it.

[@jaimerivera4332]

As a gay man I can confirm I purchase those products weekly - well done. 🌈

[@SuperAdventuretime10]

Not the persona music again XD and the ace attorney! always love your videos and the persona is an added bonus! These are so funny thanks for making these!

[@stardusst]

i remember watching this movie when it came out. i was a little kid and i recall getting mad when chuck and larry didn't actually kiss at the end, like i genuinely expected them to fall in love by the end of it. now turns out i'm a lesbo, go figure.

[@xxxaragon]

Them kissing (without actually falling in love) is probably a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario.

[@auliamate]

The fact they didn’t actually fall in love is so upsetting to me. Like it would literally have made it all worth it. But NOOOO, they got divorced, sheesh 🙄 not even a kiss on the cheek 😢

[@albertlassiter8608]

I was also hoping for that lol

[@lakegroce685]

I’d say that the best way for them to avoid being found out for commuting fraud is just say they’re both bisexual but this was 2007 and even now in 2023 people still for some odd reason don’t believe bisexuality is a thing.

[@kelseyjaffer]

wait until they find out asexuals and pansexuals exist...

[@nerdwarp112]

Now I’m curious if there’s any bad 2000s movies about bisexuals that you could have bisexual people watch.

[@JJ-jw9ec]

As a bisexual, I'd love to see that! I have the feeling we're so underrepresented that theres probably no such movie, but I'm willing to have my mind changed 😄

[@ariannasalinas6159]

maybe kissing jessica stein?

[@sandpiperr]

Chasing Amy (aka: Bisexual Erasure: The Film) leaps to mind!

[@whosindee]

bisexuals watch scott pilgrim 2024

[@Luke-ep7zk]

@@sandpiperrbirasure

[@dans1018]

the ace attorney music during the trial scene was perfect. truly fitting if you know what i mean

[@Crystalfalls100]

The "this is how stonewall happened" comment absolutely killed me

[@helloamanda04]

you have GOT to find something to force lesbians and/or bisexuals to watch

[@zerodegrees2124]

Blue Is The Warmest Color

[@darksideofevil13]

Isn't that a positive portrayal? Haven't seen it.

[@zerodegrees2124]

@@darksideofevil13 sadly.I don’t think so

[@kl3321]

​@darksideofevil13 I haven't seen it but apparently the actresses were treated badly during the filming

[@darksideofevil13]

@@kl3321 That's too bad.

[@EmeraldLavigne]

I think Rob Schneider might be the first Asian person to do yellowface. Definitely who we needed as the dad in Ben Shapiro's "We Have _Bluey_ At Home."

[@ThePi314Man]

What's insane is he's Filipino and the stereotypes he was playing were clearly Japanese ones.

[@TheCodeOfMaia]

Fun fact: back in the distant times of 2007, it was common for gay men to talk in a secret code to recognize each other in public. One of the most common euphemisms was asking someone if they were "a friend of Larry" which would indicate that they were homosexual

[@stillwaters2121]

Friend of Dorothy

[@LiShuBen]

Hey I got that reference

[@Muhluri]

We need to bring this back

[@AdhdBpdPtsstism]

All friends of Bill should have got that reference

[@non_brewed_condiment]

Found your channel then binged everything over the course of two days and after all of that I have to say: Ellington's outfit in this goes absolutely crazy. That top with the hair and mustache is such a 10 move.

[@EvasiveOne]

Thank you so much for watching! I’ll let him know you said that 😘

[@strudelh]

Love the Ace attorney segments during the court scenes towards the end. Oh and the Yakuza music as well ! Just saying that I notice and appreciate the references lol.

[@TikiShades]

For all the homophobia, we need to recognize that Adam Sandler finally put the f-slur to bed. Now nobody says it anymore! Ever! #ThankYouAdamSandler

[@albertlassiter8608]

ok, but there are actually people in the comments who shared that this scene actually taught them that, so it seemed to do something in a "cis/het guys telling cis/het guys that being gay is maybe ok [as long as its not in front of us]" sort of way

[@BillyMadison3rdGrade]

​@albertlassiter8608 The movie was for straight people, by straight people. The problem is that they used the LGBT community as a caricature and punch line rather than as real characters and people. Like the gay kid is such a horrible running gag, considering how many children die from the hate they receive for their sexuality.

[@ActuallyAnanya]

There's this Bollywood movie called Dostana which also has the basic concept of "2 straight guys pretend they're gay due to logistical reasons" but it has John Abraham, who is hot, and Kirron Kher, who is inherently camp. Also the main producer is maybe the most famous gay man in India. It's not a perfect movie in terms of representation by any means, but it's fun enough, and John Abraham is hot

[@TL-do7uq]

does it have any hot actors

[@ActuallyAnanya]

@@TL-do7uq John Abraham, Priyanka Chopra looking perhaps the best she has ever looked, and Shilpa Shetty are all in there

[@NoFirstNoLastName]

Rob Schneider’s role in this is weird af since he is partially Filipino. Like, dude, respect your grandma.

[@trollerbladdering]

This channel is literally "We have Contra Points at home."

[@EvasiveOne]

basically yeah

[@VenusPrime612]

"There are subtitles 🚬" threw ME off my seat

[@btarczy5067]

Honestly, from what I‘ve seen of the movie here I‘d say it’s more progressive than most Adam Sandler fans are today. There’s an arc about homophobia being bad, mkay and even with all the terrible, tired and mean-spirited jokes that still counts for something. Wait, does it? Wait, do I know any Adam Sandler fans? Nevermind.

[@jonfoolery]

I like Adam Sandler, not as a writer but as an actor he’s entertaining

[@Lemoncakelover678]

I've met tons of fans of Adam Sandler movies and it's a case study that I still yet to understand

[@tdarkhorse4]

@@jonfoolery right, when he doesn't have creative control he's usually fine like in reign over me and even the wedding singer idt he had very much control.

[@roems6396]

Of course it counts for something. Exposing people to things the are prejudiced against helps reduce that prejudice. Take the movie with the positive intentions they had. It’s trying to send a message in a dude-bro comedy. Of course it has to have other idiotic things in it to get those people to watch the movie.

[@ThePi314Man]

I imagine Adam Sandler's fans overlap a lot with Kid Rock's fanbase.

[@artofdrinking]

To be fair Chuck and Larry is a more Groundbreaking film for queer culture than Call me by your name

[@maxemilywinter4944]

I found Armond White's account

[@artofdrinking]

@@maxemilywinter4944 Ya got me! 😮😩

[@artofdrinking]

@@maxemilywinter4944 also did you know I am a triple minority

[@Lemoncakelover678]

Okay seriously though, call me by your name isn't even quality either but it's not this movie at least (the movies only problem was the pair was a 17 year old with a 25 year old while this movies got more of them)

[@everfluctuating]

@@Lemoncakelover678 honestly between the borderline pedophilia of cmbyn and juvenile humor of chuck and larry its hard to say which is worse

[@princessofhell4639]

Ngl I fully relate to the haves subtitles on and still can't hear a thing 😭😭

[@foradecontexto4672]

in Brazil the titile is "I Now Pronounce You husband and Larry", and is such a title

[@iseetheendisnear2416]

This movie was my sexuaI awakening, finally helping 19-year-old me discover I was straight

[@TheSkyCaptain]

I know this might be a joke but I'm going to use it to talk about my personal experience. I've always known I was bi. I've had moments in my life that I've questioned whether I was straight or not bc the majority of my lovers have been male tho I have had female attraction as well. Now I've settled on Bi Adjacent for my identity. It's odd that a "straight crisis" is a thing but I know I'm not the only alphabet person to experience one.

[@iseetheendisnear2416]

​@@TheSkyCaptain That's nutty. I didn't even think of it like that

[@emil3533]

I thought I was in a dream when the first notes of Snake Eater started playing. I started cryting and shaking uncontrollably when the intro played. As a gay man I thank you for combining my two favourite gay medias: MGS and homeophobia. ❤

[@daved2352]

I can't believe I had this movie on dvd from a bargain bin and loved it. I also can't believe that in 2007 I was like "why doesn't he just kiss him? It's not a big deal" and it took me until 2019 to realise I'm more than just fine with kissing guys.

[@julesk1567]

congrats 🥳

[@albertlassiter8608]

I mean kissing *especially* doesn't seem like a bigger deal than literal jail for fraud so it's doubly silly

[@BassicallyKiyash]

Mate that pfp is sickk