LOVE & Marriage For LILIBET!

Welcome to episode 6 of The Vintage Read Show's Book Review Series The Royals By Kitty Kelley!
In this episode, we discuss Chapter Five and learn about Princess Elizabeth and Philip Of Greece's big romance and proposal!
Despite the King and Queen's reservations, the engagement was announced, but not before many obstacles were placed in their way!
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[@thevintageread]

Hi Everyone! I can’t attend this one…but I made it a Premiere so you could all live CHAT! (You don’t need me 😂 ❤) Have FUN x

[@DimWit000]

I just think it’s very disrespectful for Meghan and Harry to use the late Queen’s pet name without permission after she told everyone not to use it after Prince Phillip passed away,truly despicable.

[@janparish7895]

I agree but I think they simply don't care. MM is just wired that way and either she's dragged Henry down to her level or we're seeing the real him. Maybe it's both. I just wish they'd disappear and we'd never see or hear from them again. Thank goodness our Beloved late Queen Elizabeth and the Duke of Edinburgh have not witnessed their continuing descent into the sewer. I don't believe for one second they have a happy marriage. How can they when it has been one (self inflicted) drama after another? I think Harry fell in lust and she mistakenly believed she would single-handledy "re-vamp" the Monarchy. That truly displays just how deluded and mentally unstable she is. I continue to pray for The King and The Princess of Wales. May they return to full health soon.

[@ecm958]

The fact the late Queen said not to use the name again is exactly why Megain used the name. She searches ways to punish those who don't give her what she wants, no matter how ridiculous the demand.

[@MeanTweetsPlease]

It's my most fervent wish that Her Majesty, the Late Queen Elizabeth II, had said to Hairy "Absolutely _not,_ Henry! *How **_dare_** you even **_suggest_** such a thing!?"* when the spineless wonder announced they'd stolen her pet name. If nothing else, surely his father the then Prince of Wales could've put his foot down and told him in no uncertain terms, that if they dared call the child by HMTLQ's pet name, they would be exiled to an island in the North Sea for the rest of their lives and cut off financially forever and ever amen! I was over 50 when my dear Mama died, and until her dying breath I'd have obeyed such a serious request (or demand!) from her. My children are over 40, and I am still capable of pulling 'rank' on them in certain circumstances. Two of my daughters were feuding for over 2 years - petty, girlish grievances - until I spoke to each of them and (lovingly, calmly, and very firmly) told them that the rest of the family were up to our back teeth with the cattiness and snottiness they displayed at family get togethers. Either behave like polite adults or neither of you will be invited to join us from now on. Of course I also pointed out that their children would likely be missing out on family time, as well. They stopped their silly sh!t and now, they actually call and chat with one another. All it took was a line in the sand from their Matriarch, and they soon realized how much they actually do have in common. Must admit, I didn't see _that_ coming and I take no credit for it, but I'm very grateful it's come to that! However, I did pray for a long while before I made the decision to give them the ultimatum, so I do credit the Holy Spirit with changing their hearts and minds.❤🙏✝🙏❤

[@Wildflowers516]

They have no morels! No class , no respect!!!

[@louisetitterton507]

@@MeanTweetsPlease I don't think H ever said they were going to call her Lilibet. I have always assumed that the he said something like 'we want to call her after you' and implied it would be Elizabeth.

[@lindacharles6581]

What a wonderful letter, she had the very best start in life that any woman could wish for. But she carried that into her life as Queen. No Queen was ever loved more than Elizabeth 2nd. And is still greatly missed.

[@MeanTweetsPlease]

Indeed. She'll be dearly missed and truly loved until the last of us who grew up during her reign passes away. I honestly believe that. I literally sobbed like a child when she died - and I'm a patriotic old American woman.

[@Wildflowers516]

❤

[@anne-no2ic]

Philip.helped her build up that persona. Basically she was a decent person.

[@anne-no2ic]

Princess margaret had the nite life and freedom and look how she turned out.. a very spoiled and unhappy person.

[@nana_ginny]

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[@jackimuir7393]

Philip and Elizabeth had a love match - i totally agree with you on this Shauna...you only have to have seen them together much like Charles and Camilla, Edward and Sophie, William and Catherine ❤❤❤❤❤

[@graphiquejack]

She definitely loved him, and I think he grew to love her, but there are lots of rumours of wandering eyes… in the end he stuck by her and that’s ultimately the most important thing

[@jackimuir7393]

@graphiquejack rumours that have never been proven...maybe I'm being naive but I'll respectfully disagree - I think he always loved Elizabeth 😍

[@AK20741]

Not forgetting Mike & Zara Tindall and others 💕

[@louisetitterton507]

@@jackimuir7393 True but you also have to remember the strata of society that they moved in where it was not uncommon for men (and the women too) to wander. He certainly had particular female friends but the Queen had her male ones. If he did have affairs, he was discreet enough that they were never common knowledge.

[@jackimuir7393]

@louisetitterton507 "friends" don't have to equal "lovers"...

[@MarieBosanko]

I remember my Grandmother going on and on about the Royal wedding of Elizabeth and Phillip and how she went to London to watch the parade and how very Grand it was she told me that many times when I was just a little girl drove me nuts back then, but I am so glad now of the stories she told how exciting it must have been for her.

[@Claireanlite]

It's funny how a person often doesn't appreciate parents'stories until older. You are lucky❤

[@Wildflowers516]

How wonderful 😊

[@kathyprime5430]

Elizabeth chose well. Who would have known her reign would be so long, and he was right there almost to the end, but certainly in memory her entire life.

[@chimerat8012]

Queen Victoria's reign gave a good indication of the longevity possible.SIP .😉

[@Polopony]

At the time of his death, Prince Philip was No 500 in the Line of Succession to the British crown, in his own right.

[@grazynakawka8585]

👌❤️👑

[@kathybutterfield2760]

Interesting. Many are related to the royal family.

[@lisalivingston6473]

I truly believe that Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip were genuinely a love match and soul mates. He seemed devoted to her, and she lit up in his presence. One of my favorite photos of the two of them was taken by their daughter-in-law Sophie, now Duchess of Edinburgh just before Prince Phillip's death. He and the Queen are sitting on what looks to be Mackintosh squares in a field on the Balmoral estate. The sweet look on his face is so lovely!

[@beverleightodd5710]

Philip had more royal blood than Elizabeth, who was only half royal, as did the duke of Kent, Princess Alexandra and Prince Michael of Kent ( whose parents were Prince George of Kent Princess Marina of Greece).

[@melbournegirl7]

I am sure that the late HMTQ was as loyal and steadfast to Phillip as she was to her duty as the Queen of England. They did not deserve the snivellous traitor H and his wife.

[@beverleightodd5710]

I also think that the King did not want to lose his daughter so soon, for the 6 long years of the war he saw very little of the girls due to his work commitments.

[@beverleightodd5710]

Prince Phillip asked his mother if she still had some diamonds he could use for an engagement ring for Elizabeth. she had so she took his design and the gems to the jeweller to make the ring. He was worried he might be seen going into the jewellers and the secret would be leaked.

[@thesubparty1]

The diamonds were from the final tiara she still possessed. I believe he designed, himself, a ring & bracelet as his engagement gifts for Elizabeth. The rest of the diamonds were sold by Alice to fund the convent she founded. I don’t get how KK wouldn’t know this.

[@melbournegirl7]

That’s interesting. I’m wondering if KK had a few biases herself.

[@ErinAbou]

@@melbournegirl7oh yes, Kitty Kelley is known for this. She wrote really hurtful and inaccurate things about Nancy Reagan for example.

[@felicitythomson3397]

That is so interesting, thank you... it makes sense. ​@thesubparty1

[@kimlersue]

There is one thing that was very clear about Phillip and Elizabeth..there very tender love for each other that strengthened over the years!

[@Polopony]

It quite obviously wasn't an arranged marriage, for the simple fact that the King and the Queen Mother tried to put Elizabeth off marrying Philip, ostensibly because they felt she was too young, (although possibly also because they had reservations of their own about Philip), and when they couldn't dissuade her, they sent her on a tour abroad for 6 months to see if absence might make her forget about him. So quite obviously the only ones doing any arranging were Elizabeth and Philip themselves.

[@dominaevillae28]

@Polopony Queen Elizabeth wanted Princess Elizabeth to marry an English aristocrat; her particular choice was born to a titled man known to be sterile-KG said absolutely not.

[@parkwood6334]

I wonder if Geroge VI objected to Philip because his wife didn't like him. The more I read about Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother the more I realize she had no intention of letting go of the throne. I read an article about Crawfie. The Queen Mother asked her to write her story about the girls, but wanted her to turn it over to a friend of the QM. Crawfie already had a publishing deal arranged. The QM set her up.

[@grazynakawka8585]

Interesting!

[@louisetitterton507]

I have wondered about her too. She seems to have been quite a controlling woman.

[@gonefishing167]

It doesn’t matter who you are, you are still a daddy’s girl, that love is special. When we were married ( back in the dark ages) , it was customary for guests to make an arch that you went through and they all sang “ wish me luck as you wave me goodbye”. I got as far as the door then ran back, put my arms around my dad and said “ I love you dad”. I was also a daddy’s girl - always was ‘bubby’ to my father. Prince Philip was Prince Philip of Greece and Denmark. That was his title. He gave that up when he took British citizenship. Still didn’t diminish his rank. Sometimes, in private moments, you would see the queen and Philip look at each other and it was just lovely. Was he always the perfect husband, possibly not but the love never died. And he was Impeccable in public. His loyalty was to his wife and the crown. That’s why he couldn’t understand Harry. He was quite disgusted by him in fact. Good on him! 🙏🙏🙏🙏👵🇦🇺

[@beverleightodd5710]

One thing that the Queen Mum was aware of was even penniless, Phillip was Royal and both his parents were Royal. Years later in arguments Margaret often threw the insult of "You're not even royal" to her mother. In reality the Queen Mum wanted a son in law who would be deferential to her and some chinless duke's son or guards officer would be perfect in her eyes. Someone who knew their place.

[@rosiebottom3870]

Absolutely. Princess Marina called the QM 'common' and I'm sure she wasnt the only one.

[@MeanTweetsPlease]

Great observation! 👍

[@graphiquejack]

‘Cookie’ never fully approved of her son in law. I can admire her for her strength during the war, but her pettiness, snobbery and meddling towards the people who married into the family, or wanted to marry in the family, caused a lot of problems later on. Maybe she was self conscious of her own lack of pedigree that she looked down on anyone else who dared to enter the family.

[@rosiebottom3870]

Many have said she had her eye on Prince Edward when she was single but he wasnt interested. If true, then she also wanted to be Queen. I think Bertie genuinely didnt want to be king. But I dont believe the claim that she didnt want to be Queen.

[@LilyGarden528]

Sadly for the Queen Mother Prince Philip did know his place and his rank. He was a prince by birth and of royal blood. He outranked her from Day 1 and she knew it. I believe that was part of the reason the king demanded Philip give up his titles to marry Elizabeth. Well, the german titles had to go, but the Greek ones i never understood them being taken.

[@Yelselnz2024]

I love all your videos Shauna. Just wanted to say that my Aunt Dorothy was one of the young women that worked on Queen Elizabeth’s wedding dress. Also her coronation dress 👰‍♂️

[@thevintageread]

Wow how wonderful! 🤗💗

[@Cooksongrl]

Have you read the Gown? So good! 😊

[@Yelselnz2024]

@@Cooksongrl no, I’ll have to look out for it. Thank you 🙂

[@justsayin8893]

Lovely, thank you again.... cheers!

[@thevintageread]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@aribalzer6468]

I have finished reading this book, Shauna. I didn’t like it too much. Too tabloid-y. I feel like the Crown writers used this book as their basis of “research”…. I didn’t quite like KK’s insinuations about Prince Philip. Didn’t feel right.

[@wendieking4184]

I agree. She makes him sound like a cad who took advantage of then Princess Elizabeth’s feeling. They could not have looked more in love at the beginning, or near the end, when they recreated that famous picture where you could see their love. A candid photo, everyone loved. I remember seeing it framed in peoples ( expats who emigrated to Canada) homes, in the village I lived in as a youngster. I’m only reading it a chapter at a time. I could only get the digital edition.

[@JM-ni3on]

I don’t think the author knows much about the British royal family or Britain .

[@wendieking4184]

@@JM-ni3on I honestly think she’s not a monarchist, whether she realized it led onto the page of this huge tome, I’m not sure.

[@Wildflowers516]

I agree with you .

[@nalayini1504]

I love the bit about women sending Princess Elizabeth their nylon stockings for a wedding present, I think that's so adorable!!❤

[@madeyed2702]

It's a blessing that the late QEII married Prince Phillip before her father passed away. The Queen truly benefited from Prince Phillip' love and support. It was a love match at every level. I think some people underestimated the important role Prince Phillip played in the success and stability of the monarch throughout QE time. I admired him. Despite his difficult upbringing, Prince Phillip never complained much about it unlike his ungrateful grandson, the Duke of Grifter! Also, Prince Phillip always respected his wife -the Queen and never tried to upstage her (which can be a very difficult thing for a man to do). Wish the Duchess of Grifter can learn from him, but she is just to narcissistic to do so!

[@purpurina5663]

From what I've read, he did have some escapades in the beginning... he was too cool and good looking, in a way. But after a while he did devote himself entirely to her and her reign.

[@catherineniles5048]

Just a thought.....perhaps you could consider doing a review of any book about Prince Philip's mother (Princess Andrew of Greece), she led a fascinating, albeit very sad life, which maybe interest your viewers/fans (and I count myself one of them). Thank you.

[@lucegoose6907]

Yes please Shauna. I looked up some information about her because I happen to live near a street named for her. Fascinating. She managed to learn to speak several languages despite being deaf, suffered schizophrenia in the 1930s, worked selflessly for others in Greece through much of her life. So sad that one of her great grandsons could be the very antithesis.

[@julledalle]

Yes Excellent idea Fascinating woman

[@damenkapric586]

From what I've heard and read, Princess Alice was a formidable character, would be interested to learn more

[@fibanocci314]

Agreed!

[@SheilaEnglish2]

“Elizabeth was not a happy penguin” Is that an Australian expression? 😂 I’ve heard of happy bunnies but not penguins. I wasn’t looking forward to this book but as usual you are doing a great job of telling the story.

[@grazynakawka8585]

Also interested in the question of penguins 😉

[@catherinepositano8544]

​@@grazynakawka8585...Happy Feet!...the movie...

[@mflow6485]

Mummy was "the most marvelous person in the world in my eyes"? Wonder if the Queen Mum is the one who wrote that letter? If not, then that sentiment is certainly something she had in common with her husband: she also thought she was the most marvelous person in the world. Lol

[@Wildflowers516]

What a wonderful team HRMTQ and Prince Philip made ❤ he supported her publicly, never seemed to begrudge the protocol! Thank you Shauna , always enjoy your channel 😊

[@BryBennett-p2e]

I am listening to Radio 2 where they've just said that king George vi and the Queen mother went to the theatre with the then two princesses and Prince Philip. They went to see Oklahoma and it was very special to a certain twosome because they heard the song 'People will say we're in Love'! They also said that the song 'Lambeth Walk' was one of Queen Elizabeth's favourite songs 😊

[@barbraluce5706]

Lady C's book on the royal marriages indicates that the Queen Mother heartily disliked Prince Philip before the engagement.

[@lisejacquelinerigault2575]

The Queen mother was a snob, and not a very nice person I gather.

[@ErinAbou]

Yes, she was a snob. She was envious of the fact that the Mountbatten’s were royals, and she was not herself born of royal blood. Meanwhile she completely failed to help her younger daughter to find an appropriate love match nearer her own age so she wouldn’t be off causing scandals during HMTQ’s reign. Not letting Crawfie marry her beau, then cutting her off after she did a brilliant job with the book about the young princesses, etc. These are mean girl antics!

[@roseanne74]

@@ErinAbouadd to that the travesty of her interference between Charles and Camilla and the arranged marriage between Charles and Diana. Plus her later treatment of Diana.

[@annetteenchelmaier2474]

I agree with you Shauna. I have always believed that Princess Elizabeth and Prince Phillip had a real love match. That love endured and was obvious in some of the photographs taken in their later years.

[@hazeluzzell]

I listened to Elizabeth’s wedding on the ‘wireless’. I was 7 years old and I remember it clearly.

[@cornelia9778]

It seems to me that Philip would never put up with all that Royal interference in P&E’s activities together if he wasnt really in love.

[@thewiseone9068]

Could the Queen Mother have hoped that Princess Alice would not wear her austere nun's habit at the 1947 wedding of QE2 and the DofE? She did not form her order of nuns until 1949.

[@ErinAbou]

Agreed, I don’t think she was a Greek Orthodox nun yet in 1947.

[@ursulaatherton7852]

Yes, I'm a bit dubious about our Kitty and her agenda with the RF particularly the Queen mother. The author makes comments about the hypocrisy of the RF when in 1939 they made their state visit to Washington bringing with them huge numbers of dress wear and luggage while implying the poor people of Britain were in rags. That doesn't paint them in a good light and I was so disappointed in them! It was only later when I was reading the comments someone made mention that rationing in Britain didn't start till 1940! I think Kitty Kelly much like Harry could do with a fact checker.

[@danielarichards3191]

I’ve had to start watching from the beginning, but I’m here❤❤

[@Donna_Relaxing]

Dear Me..... this American is SO ENJOYING this sooooo much.... oh please.... continue this book all the way to the end.!!!!!

[@patti9339]

Good Morning Shauna! ☕️

[@thevintageread]

Good morning!

[@margaretmorris672]

Shauna I believe that you are right about it being a love match and that the “arranged “ term was that they had agreed between themselves before the king gave his consent.

[@maggiedavies5312]

I’m finding some of the stuff in Kitty Kelley's book really hard to believe after decades of watching the Royal family. King George adored Elizabeth and we always understood that the South African trip was to give Elizabeth time to make sure of what she wanted.

[@ErinAbou]

💯!!! I think Kitty Kelley is more of a gossip monger. She’s gotten several things wrong, like the visit in mid-1939, the war hadn’t started yet, no rationing had yet been implemented.

[@textrue9088]

I have gotten the impression that Kitty is not the most careful and honorable author. But we should examine why she has that reputation.

[@kathiedevall5560]

I remember her reputation not being very good.

[@lynsmith277]

Kelly can write a readable, but, unfortunately, not at all reliable story about the Royal family. Her reputation is not good for total veracity. She’d possibly be good at historical fiction. I’m enjoying Shauna’s Presentation however - as usual .

[@LynxSouth]

Agree on all points. That's why I wasn't in favor of reviewing this book, too much misinformation and twists toward the tawdry. But, as ever, yea Shauna!

[@textrue9088]

Yes, she is not well-regarded for being a meticulous researcher.

[@angelabinns5726]

❤ That was just so relaxing and very interesting, it's these little insights into such a different world and I do remember my Mum and her sisters always discussing the latest news in newspapers and magazines. ❤

[@thevintageread]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@janelle6508]

Thank you for your wonderful reviews. I have an aunt who is an author, and your respect for every author that you review their work shows through.

[@suemcdermott2947]

Brilliant thank you Shauna

[@thevintageread]

You’re welcome 😊

[@grainnelambert881]

Omg ive been wondering why i cant watch the video and now realised its for tomorrow 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@NadineWilliamsNadege]

Don't feel bad. See the comment above. And I have done it too. 😂 We just can't wait for Shauna!! 🤩 Happy Weekend!

[@grainnelambert881]

@@NadineWilliamsNadege 😂😂😂 I'm cooking and listening now lolol it's my addiction these stories they are greatly read by Shauna 👋👋👍🤣❤

[@NadineWilliamsNadege]

@@grainnelambert881 enjoy both! 😚 Shauna is a delight! 😊

[@grainnelambert881]

@@NadineWilliamsNadege she sure is 👋

[@wendieking4184]

I just got the book back from the library. I think I’m taking turns with another viewer. 🤷🏼‍♀️ It’s working. Is someone here also borrowing this book from Cornwall Public Library, in Cornwall Ontario Canada?

[@fibanocci314]

Put a note in the book and maybe you'll connect, lol

[@wendieking4184]

@@fibanocci314 it’s a digital copy, downloads to the library app on my iPad. I’m hoping if someone from Cornwall Ontario in Canada see it and confirms. Each time my times up there’s one person waiting, then I put my name on the wait list, and 14 days later I get it again but one Erwin is always waiting. Just one. Might be a coincidence but I like the idea of connecting through a nice woman’s book podcast, in Australia.

[@fibanocci314]

@wendieking4184 Ah. Best of luck then. (I lived in Ontario, near Kitchener, years ago, but I know that's not helpful in this situation.) Maybe put your location more prominently in your original comment?

[@LynxSouth]

How could Philip not have had royal blood when his grandfather had been king of Greece?

[@Kasey2957]

They were considered 2nd rate royals.

[@LynxSouth]

@@Kasey2957 Right, but second-rate royals are still royal. 👑☺

[@fibanocci314]

I think people who disliked Philip liked to use the excuse that his father had been exiled and the Greek monarchy in general dissolved a few times (plus some historical stuff about them being minor nobles who were chosen to become the monarchs of Greece when their royal line died out or became infeasible or something, therefore not "really" royalty). Snobs can invalidate anything.

[@LynxSouth]

@@fibanocci314 Yes, definitely snobbishness, mixed with either ignorance or jealousy. Philip's ancestral family tree is very grand.

[@nepenthe_gal759]

KITTY KELLY needs to write a tell-all about Meghan Markle.

[@Flowerlady-s2j]

I paused your video and watched footage of Elizabeth's wedding. It was spectacular! Thanks. This book is really great.

[@textrue9088]

When I was young, my parents took me to a full-feature movie of Elizabeth's coronation, at a drive-in movie place. It was so long I fell asleep. When I see the picture of little Charles sagging onto the rail, I have real sympathy for him. No stretching out on the back seat for him!

[@shardy5426]

I enjoy your channel so much. The new bookcases look awesome and so professional.

[@wendysing9741]

Shauna, you're amazing in your reviews of the various books. You actually made all these books interesting and worth buying. I think the authors who are still alive should all pay you a fee for increasing the demands for these books. Well done! 👏❤️

[@kayrichardson804]

You do a marvelous job, Shauna . The books come alive.

[@thevintageread]

Thank you x

[@kimberlimesser5828]

I did enjoy this! Thank you for your interest,time,and hard work,Shauna.

[@karenkratzer7036]

I think Elizabeth's gown is one of the most beautiful wedding dress. And Yes Philip is definitely as royal as Elizabeth. they both descend from King Christian IX and Queen Victoria but he also has Russian Tsar ancestry.

[@ritahenderson6771]

Dear Shauna, I sure would love for you to review a book about Princess Grace of Monaco.🇲🇨 sending you lots of love and light from Germany 🥰🙋🏻‍♀️

[@ByHookorbyNeedles]

I was upset that maybe I missed tonights video, then saw this and wondered if I had been sucked into some time portal.... Either way glad I didnt miss it... well not sure yet if I will/have till later, but... oh you know what I mean lol

[@marioncottell7285]

Lovely video. Thank you Miss 💕

[@LynetteMcGrath]

I don't know if it is true, but I read somewhere that all those nylons and clothing coupons sent to the Princess for her wedding clothes were returned to the senders with thanks, but they couldn't break the law regarding rationing coupons. It's a lovely example of how people can be selfless and generous even if they don't get recognition. By the way, the more I hear about the Queen Mother, the more I think she was not a nice person.

[@rikkiharcourt3868]

I am loving this. Thank you so much for your charming and informative rendition of HMQT’s life. Those were the days!

[@kayculliton1399]

You are correct. I remember seeing a picture of them at the event where they didn’t know her name

[@silva7493]

Just lovely!! I suppose the critics only ever fell in love with the one and only person they ended up with...

[@patpelham7104]

I've just enjoyed your channel so much! I watched this one tonight, and fearlly liked it! When I tried to give it a like it wouldn't work! I've tried so many times that I am going to give up! I don't usually leave comments, but I just wanted you to know that I do enjoy and watch your channel!

[@nena1249]

thank you Shauna, very interesting part that you read ❤

[@himurahaibara1459]

If i may, Prince Philip was a dashing young man, especially with his navy uniform on. The way he carried himself was so.........😳

[@MellyBooHoo]

❤

[@lloyannehurd]

Did Phillip propose or did they just discuss marriage! There is a difference, in that there is less of an anticipated great proposal moment. She and he would have had no doubts that, when the appropriate time came, the proposal would be accepted. No big surprise, just a shared, really romantic and fun, moment.

[@krishnavyas313]

I think in one of the documentary that philip proposed 20 years old Elizabeth in Balmoral castle in 1946 and king reluctantly said yes and told them to keep their Engagement secret until Elizabeth turn 21. One of the documentary also say that though at 1st King George VI and his mother Queen Mary were sure about Philip but after wedding philip had won them over.

[@annevonaichinger2075]

Absolutely wonderful, Shauna! I'm thoroughly enjoying your delightful take on this chapter. ❤❤❤

[@fibanocci314]

Loving this book review so far, Shauna! Even though I don't trust Ms. Kelley much at all.

[@karenleavitt7241]

I got my book last night. I am already on chapter 6. It is really good! Love your reviews! There is so much more that you leave for us.

[@PattyfmPhilly]

Hi Shauna & Thanks, very much for this one! It was a splendid treat, to arrive home to, after Mass. This has been my favorite episode, so far!! As soon as I hit, the arrow to send, I’m going to find some photos of Fergie’s wedding gown. I can visualize Diana’s, Catherine’s & MM’s. I remember the mornings I watched all 4 weddings. The only word that comes to mind about Fergie’s is sleeves. And, I’ve no idea if that’s relevant. For me, Fergie is, slowly, becoming an enigma!! That surprises me! Thanks again, Shauna! OH ~ Because we’re racing thru this month…I have a…thing😁 If April showers, bring May flowers, what do May flowers bring? ………….………………………………….,,….,……………….. Pilgrims

[@missyandsyd123]

Just listing to the latest scandal mongers podcast, and Andrew low is is saying how great you are, and how they want you on their podcast! So thrilled for you .

[@kimberlyanne434]

I love the way you say Presshummed😂my husband asked me what accent is that from? I said Australian accent, he told me I sound like the south of Chicago!!!! A entirely different lingo.

[@maggiem.1539]

Lovely 🥰

[@avissmith8384]

Lovely story thanks Shauna loved it❤

[@thevintageread]

My pleasure 😊

[@PattyfmPhilly]

“Here comes the bride All dressed in white Sweetly serene in the soft glowing light Lovely to see Marching to thee Sweet love united for eternity.” 😂😂What are your lyrics?😂😂

[@philipmilner9638]

There were some very interesting points you brought up in this chapter...

[@tctc1801]

goodie, more juicey things . but what kind of things to eat and drink with it all ?

[@tomh3599]

HRH is in the gift of the monarch (it's not a birthright although it is given to the children of monarchs, it can also be taken away). My understanding is Philip would have been HRH as a Greek Prince so I don't know what the fuss was either. It is significant as rank within the family so I imagine some had their noses put out of joint. One of the things us commoners will never understand 🧐 thank goodness!

[@fibanocci314]

Would he have had the HRH from a foreign country whose monarchy had dissolved and his branch of the family particularly exiled? I can at least see the argument for why he doesn't "deserve" it, though I suspect it was actually much more influenced by the Queen Mother's personal issues and by advisors' problems with his Nazi connections. Poor dear Philip.

[@chimerat8012]

Oh, I think Commoners who have families understand.😉

[@tomh3599]

@@fibanocci314 I agree the family Nazi connections would have been a serious issue at the time and understandably so. I think most deposed royal houses carry on using their titles even after their own country no longer recognises them. I imagine there were protocol issues since a male consort can't be a King, not 'even' being HRH would rank him too low down the list. I was never a fan of Philip's, but at least he never pretended to be someone he wasn't.

[@elainebutterworth8051]

Hi Shauna, I'm a very, very old Brit and thought I knew quite a lot about our Royal Family, but I've just discovered an eye-popping piece of news - Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother, mother of Queen Elizabeth II was illegitimate!!! 😳

[@lynettehay8471]

Would have been scandalous 😂😂

[@sidneybales9062]

I asked about this in a Reddit thread and was called out on it. The Brits in the group all said that it was fabricated by Fast Eddie and Wallis. Lacy C said she could have been part of a surrogate arrangement, but the group also said that Lacy C is better to write romance fiction.

[@melbournegirl7]

And explains a lot in relation to the Queen Mother’s attitudes due to the stigma of illegitimacy in those times.

[@sidneybales9062]

I am part of a royal family reddit group. I brought this up and it made the Brits angry. They said the illegitimate claim was made up by "Fast Eddie and Wallis" This is where their nick name "Cookie" came from. Lady C insinuated that she was a surrogate child. The Reddit group said this was also completely wrong and that Lady C was a Historical Romance Fiction author. I learned that was not a subject to bring up.

[@arteasybynicolaswaine6149]

I just hate when I feel like an unhappy penguin!

[@roseannburke6512]

Great chapter and a wonderful review.

[@thevintageread]

Thank you so much!

[@BumbleBee666-u5t]

Loved this video. Thank you.

[@louise7552]

Beg to differ Shauna but, Philips mother DID wear a grey nuns habit to the wedding. If my memory serves me correctly, i saw her in a picture in the Abbey. 😊

[@thevintageread]

Snap! I thought that too, but I believe that was actually a later occasion… the funeral of King George VI OR the coronation? I will check! 😊💗

[@krishnavyas313]

​@@thevintageread princess Alice wore pretty royal purple colour dress on the occasion of her son's wedding and she wore nun's clothes on Queen's coronation.

[@lynwilson6893]

You are right Shauna, Phillips mother did wear a dress to the wedding, google, lovely images photos of all the royal family and bridal party.

[@ErinAbou]

I don’t think she’d become a nun yet at the time of the wedding.

[@BelindaLeslie-yp8tq]

Think you saw her at the Corination dressed this way.

[@freemantle252]

Another good video Shauna, very interesting. I did think the Royal family at the time were quite cruel to Crawfie. That was very sad how that turned out but her husband turned out to be a bit of a rat in the end too. Uncle Dickie was very handsome and charming but there is a lot of pretty unsavoury stuff there that Andrew Lownie has tried to uncover.

[@hawthorne1504]

I really like Philips mother

[@foretfleur]

I read somewhere, can't recall where now, that actually the Queen's mother, was intimidated by Prince Philip, his family were a lot older Royals than the Windsor Royals were, hence why he was made to renounce his place in the Greek and Danish thrones. I agree, I think it was a love match, she was pretty hot stuff, in fact, I think marrying Philip actually prevented her from becoming a bit of a Princess Margaret, she had the stability, he was a good looking hunk.

[@kathywatts9539]

Love your channel !!!!!!

[@thevintageread]

Thank you so much!!

[@julledalle]

Dear Vintage Reader: Any chance of daily visits? I keep checking your page - hoping that Shauna per chance-has posted an extra morsel for her viewers??????

[@kirri1312]

I’ve seen pictures of Phillip’s mother Alice at the wedding in a nun’s habit??

[@beverleightodd5710]

He could be His Royal Highness, don't forget Edward was incensed that the King withheld the HRH styling from Wallis even though her husband was a HRH. As the spouse you automatically are styled with the courtesy title of HRH.

[@fibanocci314]

Not sure automatically is the right word, but certainly conventionally.

[@kimlersue]

At the end of the war at least on the British Isles..the people realized what a bullet they'd dodged in King Edward!

[@bejbimama6689]

Nylon stockings were the most desirable after the war because they were not available to everyone. They could only be bought on the black market, so they were expensive. There was even a new profession in my country (Poland)-there were ladies who repaired nylon stockings professionally, because these were not available.

[@userMelC]

The wedding gifts were a tad excessive - that being said, I hope they weren't destroyed like those of Charles and Diana!! I believe it was a marriage of love and friendship. They were a powerful team ❤

[@momz42]

Philip’s grandfather was a king and grandmother was part of the Russian royals. So I don’t know why they thought he wasn’t royal enough. Funny how much the series “The Crown” got wrong. They showed the kids being much older and living in Malta with Elizabeth and Philip.

[@dhjdmba5684]

I’m late to the game and likely someone said this but as the great-grandchild of Queen Victoria Phillip always had British citizenship and should never had to “renounce” everything to get it per the letters patent.

[@justthreegoldens]

Prince Louis Battenberg Mountbatten fathered a child with Lillie Langtry.

[@joycemann4633]

I love your channel and always look forward to new videos! I was wondering if you ever read “The Little Princesses” and your opinions?

[@thevintageread]

Yes I did! I have used it as a reference sometimes too. I felt a great deal of sympathy for Crawfie!

[@allyanderson6755]

❤❤❤the Queen mum was an interesting woman wasn't she 😂❤😮. I was watching a country music documentary the other night and im sure they mentioned kitty Kelly. About something she had written 😂. Thank you Shauna. Fabulous stuff❤

[@lisejacquelinerigault2575]

She wrote about Frank Sinatra.

[@momz42]

Prince Albert was given HRH, Prince Consort when he married Queen Victoria.

[@lisajn958]

❤

[@MaryGraceHutchinson]

ty this was so enjoyable and interesting but I am confused as I never knew that the late queen owned treetops in Kenya.

[@textrue9088]

Thank you, Shauna, for being so honorable when you review books. A certain reviewer has read books word for word and recently called the author a liar going on to declare she would not read another word of the book. The author took it for what it was, slander, and gave a full-throated statement of offense that fell short of being as harsh as the reviewer's attack because she did not point out that the reviewer was an intellectual property thief and a slanderer. Now the reviewer has taken most, not all, evidence of her worst affronts and left selected parts of the response from the author. Her current version of her attack is that she was ONLY asking questions about that event and the author is being so mean to her. It reeks of something Meghan Markle would do. Attack someone and then pretend she is the victim. By the way, several subscribers saw the event in question when it happened. One was actually there. They all, including me, read the body language the same way the author wrote it. Thanks for the fun visits and you are well thought of here.

[@margaretjamieson3604]

Was it not Lilibet with one L, not two?! 🫤

[@fibanocci314]

I think you are correct