Loveland Police Chief, Tim Doran community message regarding May 20, 2023 incident

Loveland Police Chief, Tim Doran community message regarding May 20, 2023 incident

[@trumpwonandyouknowit]

This police chief did a wonderful job having his city lawyers draft up this speech to try avoiding lawsuits heading his way. 😁💯✅😁😂🤣😲

[@rexmasters1541]

Yup all lies and deceit!!!! If I was a police chief I would have fired this oifficer and had him charged and his certifications revoked. This chief did NOTHING!!!!!

[@prun8893]

It takes a minimum of 1500 hours of training to attain a barber's license in Colorado. It takes a minimum of 556 hours of training to become a police officer in Colorado.

[@brixmoore9871]

That’s why you have the mess you have. Poorly trained and poorly educated!

[@TheBambislayer]

Release all the videos or its all talk

[@edeledeledel5490]

It should be a legal right to have bodycam footage of yourself, within a reasonable time period, say one week. Often it can take 2 or 3 years, or even never.

[@byronshepherd8415]

@@edeledeledel5490 it should be a right to have the bodycam footage for any reason, as it's a public record, paid for by the public, and belongs to the public

[@erincrsmn]

While I appreciate you being transparent and apparently seemingly trying, as a citizen of Loveland for the past ten years and a few run ins with officers here and there I can say they have progressively gotten worse over the last few years and are now very aggressive always trying to "get you" for something. It's very scary considering I was s******* assaulted by a police officer in another state which prompted our move here.. I'm no longer sure that was the best idea. I seriously don't leave my house and fear for my husband when he does (who has also unjustly been targeted after dropping my son off at school one morning). This is no way to live.

[@szwolinski4587]

While I applaud the quick action to terminate this officer, it always puzzles me why it takes weeks to decide to arrest an officer for an incident like this. If I did anything close to this, I would be in cuffs and jail before the spit hit the ground. Non-law enforcement citizens are told that everything will be sorted out by the courts. LEO can commit assault and battery on camera and still go home that night. In addition, that nurse was a snowflake. She could have assisted in deescalating the situation but chose to be offended by a woman who was being evaluated for mental health/substance abuse problems. (The reason cited by the Chief for her being placed in handcuffs.) She directly contributed to the results. The charges against this woman should be dropped since she was antagonized by the officers and medical staff.

[@DJPLAST2]

Nice to see how you cleaned things up for your benefit. She was wandering on private property in a parking lot, not on a highway, why are your officers patrolling private property. The officer picked her up for her protection? How did that work out for her? The officer at the hospital slugged her with a closed fist to the face, glad you realized that was inappropriate use of force. Is the lady much safer now that she sat in jail and now has charges pending? The best thing from this incident was letting the rookie, probationary officer go. I don’t see an arrest for HIS ACTIONS, was there some kind of misunderstanding with what he did to another human being, female at that? Was he ever booked for the assault? Charges filed? The playing field must be kept level, especially when dealing with the law. Blue line just getting thicker and thicker. Disgusting behavior, do better.

[@JennyClaireCruises]

100%

[@chavitacanta008]

If she assaulted him then he assaulted a hancuffed prisoner ! If you charge her and not him then we will seethat there is no justice in Amerika ! Enjoy the police state !

[@edwardfedeli4253]

How is the DUI contest going did you fire all the cops that participated

[@brixmoore9871]

That’s classic police thinking. Everything is a game, a deal or a contest. What are they? 12 year old boys? This not only shameful, it’s disgusting!

[@OneStepBeyondu]

They're up to 400K in settlement payments. Oh, you didn't mean THAT contest.

[@THEvagabond29]

My exgf was a cop, she said the police will always spin the story into a plea or an admission they need more $$$training$$$. Rare a dept does the right thing, like fire that ofc ASAP and hand the evidence to the district atty. You know Internal Affairs will always sweep it under the rug.

[@JennyClaireCruises]

Yeah. They fired him on separate and independent causes. What bullshit. Now he'll never be held accountable for what he did.

[@THEvagabond29]

@@JennyClaireCruises The firm they hired to manage this mess arranged his quiet departure. Im sure hell move somewhere else and start festering again. Most police records are sealed from the public.

[@casilll]

"Being a police officer in 2023 requires extraordinary patience, self-control, and bravery." Those traits have always been necessary. What you're really saying, without saying it, is that "it's 2023 and we have body cams. We can no longer sweep things like this under the rug."

[@carlmorgan8452]

No law was being broken from the beginning. Never should have escalated or detained. 😮

[@carlosplays112]

@@carlmorgan8452well she also spat on them. Which is assault with bodily fluids

[@wyldflwr]

​​@@carlosplays112 Had they left her alone, she never would have been in the position to spit on anyone. Her civil rights were violated from the beginning. You can only push someone so far until they react in a negative manner.

[@LaineyTsang]

🎯🎯🎯

[@fractuss]

@@carlosplays112 After they arrested her unlawfully. Citizens are expected to have the patience of a Saint while cops can and do hit, choke, curse, shoot, and torture often with no consequences. THEY are the ones who are supposed to be trained.

[@trumpwonandyouknowit]

FUN FACTS: The Police Chief never mentioned that the lady was not read her Constitutional Rights, not given a reason for detainment, not given a blow test though they claim she was intoxicated.

[@aarondaniel6630]

True that

[@davidlamunyon9087]

The chief also forgot that she was guilty of crossing a parking lot while she was talking to herself. Apparently it's illegal to cross a parking lot at a Walmart or anywhere in loveland to get to your car if your talking to yourself and want to be left alone! Suspicion there is now considered a crime!

[@firdosvohra4315]

Lawsuit much?

[@OneStepBeyondu]

This is Loveland, CO, you know, Retardville. How much better does it get than punching a woman in the face that you've taken into protective custody? Love to hear that one explained to a jury.

[@stevecrow559]

So would he have been fired if he had completed his probationary period is the real guestion.

[@bobmazzi7435]

At a guess, the process would be much harder once the probation period is over. And potentially, even though the chief may want to, the officer may have been able to block the firing.

[@carlmorgan8452]

Union would be fighting then

[@carlosplays112]

Yes he would never do the right thing. And recert him

[@chloe38583]

I hope you'll get his certification so he can never punch a handcuffed person he is meant to be preventing from harm again.

[@dude3146]

Hopefully this won't be used against those who still feel unsafe and prejudice by law enforcement. For many there is a very long road to be paved with effort in order to rebuild trust in law enforcement.

[@WhoIsThis505]

@city of loveland She assaulted two people, the cop and the nurse, what charges will be stemming from that?

[@nadine5608]

Charges should be appropriate taking into account any mental health issues. We live in Loveland. My son is schizophrenic and had a psychotic episode several years ago. He felt he was going to be attacked by someone on the street and lashed out with a metal bar. Police were called, he resisted and was tased a couple of times. Later, I was called and explained his mental issues. He was booked and charged. Luckily this county has a great program for offenders with a history of mental health issues. These officers need to be trained on how to handle citizens suffering mentally.

[@carlosplays112]

Oh none. Because she was assaulted by the officer, The DA decided to drop all charges - loveland

[@trumpwonandyouknowit]

I love how the Loveland Police Department coaches the police officer to charge the guy with, "'Having a vicious dog'" after shooting the puppy in the head. 😁💯✅😁😂🤣😲

[@olieantonetti7393]

The fact that an American police chief, not elected, has to tell the people who pays his pay check, that he is going to be transparent is very troubling! You should be transparent without question since my tax dollar pay for you to be transparent by default.

[@Rick-qk9os]

We still don't care about officer safety anymore

[@brixmoore9871]

Officer Safety is Officer Cowardice. A school crossing guard has a more dangerous job. They don’t constantly cry like little girls!

[@macklyn]

Jan 6th insurrectionists sure don't.

[@Rick-qk9os]

@@macklyn When policecmsje themselves look as stupid as "your" insurectionists, we make sure everybody knows it.

[@Rick-qk9os]

@@macklyn When cops look stupid as (Your) "Insurectionists", & continually violent citizens rights, we make sure everyone knows it.

[@playsaboutmycat]

It appeared she spat in the floor NOT at hospital staff and then she spat at the cop toward his chest area AFTER he agitated her by taking her personal papers from her back pocket. Why did he need to take her papers - she already told him no. He instigated the whole mess but as police chief the facts should be presented clearly, not churching it up to make the cops sound less culpable for the situation THEY created! This woman, Angelia, was also agitated by the nurse asking the cop to speak on her behalf as if she were a child. I don’t understand why law enforcement thinks it is ok to treat people this way and expects them to not have any reaction. A truthful, balanced statement - one that included what the victim was put through - would have sounded much different than this.

[@kaizerblade75]

So there’s a chance he can be back out there?😡

[@eliteteamkiller319]

I say, this is a good start though. If anyone should absolutely obey the law at all times, it is law enforcement. Sworn officers. No more gang bangers wearing badges. We need heroes. Not thugs. The chief here is doing the right thing.

[@user-no5gg6wh5k]

Was anything done about the ‘contest’ that meant people were arrested for no good reason? What was that?

[@pinoyboyz3043]

Is this Loveland Colorado where the grandmother Karen Garner was physically violated??😡

[@bensteele5801]

This is the new police chief. The city has put a lot of pressure on the department to change after that incident. Seems like it's going in the right direction with this action and open communication

[@pinoyboyz3043]

@Ben Steele Now,we the people need to reform the rest of the nation's. Corrupt police departments 😡👍

[@DarrylWatts-le1yk]

Also assaulted the guy a couple years before this. It seems to be a pattern with cops and elderly people getting beat up

[@GoToPhx]

Yes. The police chief at that time is now Police Chief in Prescott Valley, AZ. This guy is the new Loveland chief

[@kevinritter6448]

Thank you!

[@MrZacharykgwin]

This is what I like to see. As a citizen of Loveland I commend you. Loveland has been in dire need of a police chief for a long time. The officers in this town have lost alot of respect even among the older citizens. It will take a lot for lpd to gain back a positive reputation but this is a start in the right direction.

[@vulcan2882]

I saw the video about this, it looks like that woman may have a had a stroke and didn't know it.

[@ricciwelter1742]

Good job .change in the right direction

[@trumpwonandyouknowit]

"'Small-town Police Department Corruption Award of the New Millennium'" goes to.... Loveland Police Department!!!😁💯✅😁😂🤣😲

[@carlmorgan8452]

Good lip 💋 service though 👌 . If spitting is assault / punching is too.

[@stephengreen3566]

Even one incident like this ruins trust from the citizens for years. It sets the department back for a loooong time. You reap what you sow.

[@rexmasters1541]

Loveland PD has a very long history of officers who commit crimes. Sad thing is??? The officers who do these vile acts are NEVER held accountable.

[@adamelam6385]

Now how about the DUI contest to arrest the most impaired drivers that led to innocent people being arrested?

[@nbgilbert]

Thank you.

[@patrickcarleton3924]

It woukd take less time to talk about the good they do for the community.

[@anthonywiggles9263]

Is this the same police department that dislocated a 72-year-old woman’s shoulder and then the same police department that sexually assaulted a teenager just curious maybe I’m wrong I don’t know just asking

[@GoToPhx]

Yes. And don't forget arresting a guy for refusing to answer questions about a motorcycle accident that he didn't witness ($290,000 or so paid). And don't forget the cop who shot a puppy seconds after exiting his patrol vehicle, which, IMO, any fool could see was no threat (current lawsuit).

[@lamontpies7816]

Harrassment!!! J/$. We appreciate your kind words. Have a nice day.

[@shadgreenup9164]

Why is it police investigate other police ? Do you really think that will not be a biased investigation? That's like my wife investigating me on a traffic violation

[@firedupoutdoors]

Transparency right? How much has been paid out in lawsuits over the years.

[@OneStepBeyondu]

What's the over/under on what he's going to say after the Loveland officer who raped a 15 year old goes to trial?

[@GoToPhx]

A step in the right direction, but there's a Highway this department needs to traverse on it's way to redeeming their reputation. The City of Loveland may need to get this chief some help, such as a new D.A. that would charge and prosecute ex-cops, and a legislature that would do away with the police union that's probably making it hard to fire anyone other than a rookie on probation.

[@molonlabe9602]

Notice that he didn't say that being a police officer iun 2023 requires a high level of honesty, integrity, respect for the law and respect for citizens that a police officer serves. No more qualified immunity and we'll see just how GOOD are police officers.

[@pinoyboyz3043]

Only time will tell if u r really the good guys

[@DarrylWatts-le1yk]

What happened to live And let live see what she got for them trying to help her

[@stardaddyo9]

Support the blue until it happens to you. He terminated that jerk because he was a probationary cop. If he was tenured they would have stonewalled and protected him.

[@alphamikejuliet1501]

Karen Garner, et al, wtf is going on with Loveland P.D.? No doubt this won't be the last time we hear of them. The new Chief has a big job ahead of him, and I believe that he is up to the task. Congratulations sir!

[@trumpwonandyouknowit]

If you pay attention, he never mentioned that the lady was never given a blow test though they claim she was intoxicated and they never read her Constitutional Rights that she should remain silent. 😁💯✅

[@byronshepherd8415]

"we need special training to not punch handcuffed mental patients"

[@brixmoore9871]

What a great speech. Who wrote it for you? You can’t admit that you should have immediately fired this rogue officer. His certification should have been revoked. Don’t think about prosecution. He should be immediately charged with a crime. Your department has a terrible history of treating people with various forms of disrespect. Your officers laughed at dislocation of a woman’s shoulder. All police like to think their job is dangerous. Did you know a school crossing guard has a more dangerous job? Bet you didn’t. You probably don’t even care. Stop offering excuses. Clean the mentally unstable and aggressive officers with anger management issues out of your department. Stop those that laugh about hurting people. Take a refresher course on what you were supposed to learn at the police academy. Remove all the oath breakers in your department. Start with that. When you accomplish that, come back and ask the public to offer their suggestions, if any. Mr. Chief, you’re in charge. Start taking responsibility. Professionalism starts at the top! Remove Qualified Immunity Make America Safer Again

[@terrylyons3577]

I don't know, maybe this will sound better if he used the tone of Eddie Murphy's drunk uncle at the family picnic, or Eddie Murphy's father threatening him to get the dog away from his food lol

[@trinityivymoon]

Wow I'm actually impressed....

[@JennyClaireCruises]

At what? He rewrote history, and the lady still went to jail. The cop might have been fired but he'll never be held accountable for what he did.

[@PinkCameraMagic]

" verbally uncooperative "

[@Bubbabodine]

The Chief’s narrative is flawed as there are discrepancies, caught on body worn cameras. Both officers trampled on the woman’s constitutional rights, during the initial contact, where she clearly indicated that she didn’t want to speak to officers as she was singing a song and didn’t need help. Where else are you gonna walk if there is no sidewalk present?

[@ReptilesGeniales]

14:33 I’m trying to deescalate the situation says Nick Hobbs who’s just been stalking and harassing her for fifteen minutes right now!!!! Nick is delusional and is absolutely NOT suitable to carrying a Badge!!! 😢

[@OneStepBeyondu]

This guy reminds me of the joke, "Q:What do you call someone with no understanding of the law? A:Officer".

[@billclodt2591]

Love to see this action being taken. But if I was the chief I would have a meeting with the tyrants and make it very clear that if there crap doesn’t stop I will put them in jail with the criminals they arrested and hope that they treated these criminal with respect when they arrested them. The district attorney needs to do the people work and prosecute every use of force from this department and make it clear that the citizens will not tolerate this behavior anymore. Don’t ever forget that you work for the people.

[@francesmarino1765]

You’re lying. She was not in the roadway , she was in a parking lot devoid of sidewalks. She was harmlessly singing aloud. Your officers needed to leave her alone, instead they escalated the situation to the point this mentally ill woman lost it. The nurse knowing she was dealing with a sick woman chose to drop all professionalism and knowledge and took off offended by a benign spit that never touched her. She, as a professional, should have stepped in and calmed down the victim thus de escalating the situation. Notice I called the woman a victim because that is what she is, a victim of over zealous policing frequently resulting in violations of civil rights as well as physical harm to innocent citizens. You need to do better and if you can’t, step aside. Hand the reins to someone that can.

[@ArunSudama-ur2cd]

The chief’s comments about the department are generous. Even before we get to the point where a physical assault occurs, why doesn’t this cop know we have no duty to identify, nor are we obligated to speak to a cop? That is basic Civil Rights 101. This is a department that holds contests for DUI arrests? Im sorry, I have no faith in this department. I can trust a criminal to be a criminal. I cannot trust a police officer to uphold the law.

[@sportsfan5548]

Wow! Things are completely different in Loveland. Outstanding!

[@rjvaughn]

You must not be very familiar with the Loveland PD

[@gdupkwin9676]

If they were different that @$$#0!e pig 🐖 wouldn't have locked up that lady who wasn't doing anything cuffed and punched her like Iran barkley

[@JoshCousteau]

clown, Loveland PD is so corrupt. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hn_Jg3aJp790o5o

[@ct-lg4gm]

Lmao. Today, the deleted Facebook posts they didn't like. You're city will be sued for 1st amendment violations again, and you'll lose. You have a really expensive department of morons in Loveland. They really are the sewage of law enforcement in this country.

[@jeanbarrs9306]

At least you are making an effort to be nice.keep it up

[@trumpwonandyouknowit]

If Rambo ever needed to clean up a police department, Loveland Police Department is definitely first on the list. 😁💯✅😁😂🤣😲

[@paulwardward7938]

Why do these things keep happening then? Why do the police escalate 9 times out of 10

[@reclaimingtherepublic8916]

Nothing changed or was learned

[@paulmonin5215]

Bring sll the investigation evidence to the elected officials of that city. Hold them accountable

[@ginali8565]

If I was him, I’d sue the lady for assault

[@christopherweingart9757]

Good luck with that. What would be the damages? Dry cleaning bill?

[@sarayasherer494]

This is truly amazing to see. Thank you for being open and clear to the community about this matter. I look forward to seeing how you handle matters such as this in the future.

[@toddguillory692]

Don't be so damn naive.

[@elisabethlee2126]

@@toddguillory692 there is a difference between being naive and recognizing that this is an example of doing the right thing and acknowledging that steps are being made to move in the right direction.

[@toddguillory692]

@@elisabethlee2126 What's Naive Is to believe these politicians with badges....

[@dude3146]

​@@toddguillory692 I'm with you. Movement & Motion don't equal Progress & Growth. Law enforcement is only the low hanging fruit. What about the Larimer County court system, lol. 🤮🤮🤮

[@elisabethlee2126]

Yes because if we don't acknowledge movement in the right direction, things will certainly fix themselves.

[@davetaylor2449]

Had it not been on video, this whole incident would have been twisted around, so his department came out clean and he would not have to make this humiliating speech,

[@lindarosa7707]

Thank you! It is so good to see that the police department has been turned around try Chief Doran to one we citizens can be proud of.

[@RisingTidesAC]

So, 5 months later, is it really better? I am willing to bet that it isn't.

[@bluethunder5694]

@@RisingTidesAC just arrested one of there cops for sexually assaulting a teenage girl, so no it's just as bad , all this from a department with 23 total cops

[@RisingTidesAC]

@@bluethunder5694 Thank you for the update friend!

[@ernies.260]

I hope his parents are proud of him.

[@williamhenry9705]

He should where 5 stars like so many other chiefs.......

[@3.0colorado21]

Drugs are bad m’kayyy. There’s been an increasing number of transients and drug addicts asking me for money outside of Walmart on 287.

[@donalfinn4205]

Well done Chief. Good decision.☘️

[@trumpwonandyouknowit]

The one police officer claimed that Angelia was intoxicated. Why didn't you give her a blow test or blood test at the hospital if you were so sure? Because you lie and you know she has mental issues and now are trying to CYA.

[@greghughes3742]

If that was a citizen not a cop they would have been arrested on the spot, put in handcuffs, transported to jail and would have to be bailed out. Why do the cops get privileged treatment.

[@joshmadrid1963]

Well looks like we need more audits done on the Loveland PD. And if you're going to be accountable, how did Pride get strips when he has always been dirty. And probably has the most false arrest than any cop in Colorado.

[@sefman86]

well you have one good cop and 1 bad cop gone good to see that i guess 1 small step is better then nothing seems like they want to do the right thing it's a shame the tax pays are going to have to pay for that cops choices

[@mikeymusk]

Practicing III you can’t cover it up, let’s hide it until everyone forgets

[@stupidplumbing2343]

With all the "mistakes" cops make, isn't it time to increase the academy training?

[@fractuss]

"Protective" custody.

[@EnglebertHumperdinck]

Well I'm impressed.

[@trumpwonandyouknowit]

Impressed with never reading her her Constitutional Rights or giving her a blood test or blow test though claiming that she was intoxicated?

[@veneno6388]

Minor injuries to the chief but not to her. Now comes the chief DA lowering charges or letting him resign and or lose his cert. I doubt the chief and the DA want it to be known to the public that he is a threat to their community and should have never been allowed to serve the public

[@trumpwonandyouknowit]

Wrong. This isn't, "'Just one of those times.'" This is, "'A long list of times'" and "'Get ready for more.'"😁💯✅😁😂🤣😲

[@tannerzrow3604]

Ho no

[@vulcan2882]

Show the video ... lets see the proof. Video doesn't lie but people do !!!

[@viveksworld1]

First it was Karen Garner. Now this !!

[@daveypir]

I hope you're serious... I've viewed lots of Loveland Police acting terribly, all the way from Boston... It's a nightmare!

[@whatever8243]

She did not have to cooperate with the er staff. She did not want treatedyou can not force treatment.

[@ScottSchuster-yb2dl]

Protective custody is the problem. Gives you opportunity to cover your ass for anything.

[@thedude6617]

Break any elderly women's arms lately?

[@metallampman]

Man responsible for the incompetence and corrupt says a few words and everything is ok again

[@philipwilliams1754]

What is wrong in Loveland.

[@Mike-gc9ih]

One of the most corrupt police department ever

[@dburns8381]

I through the BS flag here. I would bet that the report will read something like: Internal Affairs investigated this incident and found no wrong doing by Loveland police, its officers and or representatives. Corrective punishment or discipline will be forth coming.

[@benburnett8109]

Throw is spelled t-h-r-o-w not t-h-r-o-u-g-h. Before YOU complain about others make sure you can at least spell. Dummmmnnnuuuuuttss. Spelled wrong so I don't get flagged by YT.

[@bensteele5801]

They literally fired the guy who did it...

[@artisen12]

​@@bensteele5801He's fired but still has his POST meaning he can easily be hired by another agency, and more than likely will because that how they do it. Fire em so they look good them recommend them elsewhere and let them continue being a cop. Nothing changes.

[@irocmyz5658]

Thanks Tim. You seem like a fine, upstanding Chief!

[@gayledrewry3727]

Sorry Loveland you have had way to many incidents,you need to learn the world is not here as your playground

[@paulmonin5215]

This message was brought to you by his intensive self investigations self protecting and cover up department.

[@haroldtalaski4955]

Captain is not being honest after watching the video it telling a different story

[@trumpwonandyouknowit]

Hi. Whatever happened to the puppy shot in the head by the trigger happy Loveland Police Department officer?

[@0202068103]

Wow, this Loveland place, with its horrible and corrupt police department, seems like a place where I wouldn't want to be, ever; hell, I wouldn't even want my dog to piss on it.

[@Ghostshadow714]

Wow now there's something you don't see everyday. Accountability! Wr need more like him!👍

[@fredrichardson8647]

he is just blowing smoke up the people of loveland a$$es

[@rgarri6396]

Is this the department that paid 400 grand for false arrest for dui?

[@fredrichardson8647]

yep!!

[@luisa.35]

Loveland is one of the places to avoid

[@JennyClaireCruises]

You're only acknowledging it because so many influencers have called you out on it. We've seen the bodycam footage, and sorry, but your summary of events does not line up with the truth. Your officers harassed a woman walking around a parking lot. There were no cars driving anywhere near her while she was talking with your cops. And you still allowed her to go to jail and be prosecuted. You have a responsibility to the people in your community. By firing the deputy on separate and independent means that he won't be held accountable for what he did. That's a bullshit loser way to handle this. Fire him for what he did -- he assaulted a woman who was just singing a song while walking through an empty parking lot.

[@Emu116]

An attempted kidnapping gone wrong

[@trumpwonandyouknowit]

Sure. Let's just take everyone into custody and later find reasons to charge them. Team CCP😁💯✅😁😂🤣😲