Watching an Anti-Climatic Euphoria Finale *EPISODE 8 COMMENTARY*

[@juantheiguana8239]

I love how maddy at the end didn’t fight for Nate, she just said to Cassie he’s her problem now, fucking love her

[@jadendiaz3615]

OMG Same what she said was way better than revenge she literally was like I couldn't give two Sh*ts anymore he's your's now.

[@juantheiguana8239]

@MarvelousMaggie I think she’s idolized Nate because of how special she felt when he talked to her so by that point yeah she’s pretty much become blind to all the bad things in Nate

[@JustCallmeMJ]

The best revenge she can have on her now as long a he doesn’t put hands on her then that when we should start to care again but as far as that she’s setting herself up

[@theaitokyo]

@@juantheiguana8239 literally was gonna say this. she is in love w the idea of being loved. she knows he is toxic, she just blurs that out bc he makes her "feel good" for now. but she'll realize it later. she's happy temporarily rn bc he's the only guy who seems to fully "like" her for her and "cares" for her. i'm glad lexi told her tho that nate used to make fun of her. bc it's true. idk how cassie can just forget bout that too.

[@jemimahlikesfood5792]

Yeah! She must be so relieved she doesn't have to deal with him and her anymore, she's done, she gonna focus on herself now which I love

[@parizbattee1392]

Rue starting the Lexi chant made me so happy.

[@sunflower3823]

they’re gfs, it’s true

[@parizbattee1392]

@@sunflower3823 I agree with this statement

[@spacebar9733]

same my heart did little tappy jumps

[@kathleenuclear]

I will forever stan that friendship

[@trinaq]

Me too, even though they're no longer as close as they once were, it's still sweet that Rue still cares for Lexi.

[@beaversfan8116]

I think people forget Ash is just a kid. Like yes he has killed people, he deals drugs and is apart of some very adult things. But honestly Ash still has the mind of child who simply wanted to protect his brother, and people very much forget how young minds although surrounded by adult themes still are developmentally young.

[@mekaylafoy3441]

true, but you can't ignore the fact that if he did live, he would have no chance against the legal system. He committed 2 counts of 1st degree murder, and 1 count of 2nd degree. plus terrorism for shooting at all those cops. He qualifies as a serial killer. The age of criminal responsibility is 11-12, they could've charged him as an adult and he would've gotten 25 to life, and doubt they would've given him parole EVER. His situation applies to many and while fez thought he was protecting him,he was only making him more irrational and blood thirsty.

[@drewmorebarry761]

@@mekaylafoy3441 ok law school

[@layahlayah5951]

@@mekaylafoy3441 no one is questioning that his life was over, dead or alive, just that his actions are in part, because he is a child. She didn’t add the clip where Fez said “ Stop, there’s a child in there!” Till that point him being just a kid had not been acknowledged and probably even Ash didn’t acknowledge himself as a child and acted accordingly, costing him a childhood and life…

[@Becks-and-books]

exactly! he didn't think of the true consequences, just that kind of mentality that he had to fight and that he'd fight to the death. maybe he realized his life would be over regardless, but i think he just acted like a kid. he just didn't think before doing, and because he's killed before he probably thought he'd somehow find a way through?

[@xxunitatoaestheticxx3318]

Tbh, I don't think there was ANY reason to kill Ash. Like I feel like in S1 he was much smarter than this. Ig either way he would've ended up in trouble, but still.

[@ejgardener]

a round of applause for all trin’s euphoria inspired fits for this season of commentaries

[@ash-hm4bt]

She looks so good (all the time but the euphoria fits serve) there are not enough comments hyping her up🔥🔥

[@euphoria186]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@speedymosquito8615]

Sam Levinson had ALL that build up and did practically NOTHING with it

[@climintine1984]

yea but I feel like it made it better, that rue is getting clean and calming down but hell is behind her

[@Lex.Santanny]

Literally like the season is just so unfinished and know wait have to wait about two years for the next one

[@naylani7790]

YES, I was just saying this the other day but this whole season felt like it was just filled with plot holes and storylines starting up but them not really being capped off properly or not taken farther then it could or should have??…idk but hopefully some of the many plot holes get answered in season 3. Also, I hate how Kat and Jules were basically non-factors this entire season when they’re story plots the first season were probably my favorites to watch. I will say tho, there were some positive takeaways that came from this season which was: Lexi finally found her voice, Rue is on track to recovery (which might actually change bc of the whole fez/ash situation), Cal’s musty ass is most likely going to prison for a long ass time, and Maddy has matured a bit and *finally* freed herself from the shackles of Nate, hallelujah.😌

[@theaitokyo]

the way we were all clickbaited by the season 2 trailer too... had so much potential. and the fact that it took 2 years to even come to life. that's sad asf. i mean ik it was delayed bc of covid, but still... hopefully he actually takes his time on season 3 so it doesn't feel rushed like this season. season 1 is superior.

[@fioriveros2219]

@@theaitokyo a lot of stuff were cut out because cast problems tho

[@4zn4ngelz]

Elliot’s song was so good but honestly one verse could’ve sufficed and the extra time could’ve gone to something else 😭

[@hildasjoblom5759]

Exactly..i felt like they could have played it in the background while showing other scenes or something🤷🏼‍♀️ good song tho

[@mkwhite5054]

@@hildasjoblom5759 they could’ve had a flashback at the end with Rue going to see him then when he starts playing have scenes showing where all the characters are seasons end. Cassie going home and it being awkward, Maddy removing any remnants of Nate or Cassie from her life, Kat going back to camming, etc like… a montage would’ve worked better with that scene instead of Rue just blankly staring at Elliot with not a TEAR to be shed

[@LittleMan27]

turn on the subtitles & listen to the lyrics, you’ll know why they chose to put the whole song in there

[@4zn4ngelz]

@@LittleMan27 I have looked at the lyrics. It’s a good representation of his friendship with rue however my point still stands. With it being the FINALE, one verse + chorus would’ve sufficed

[@foreverlaila4934]

I absolutely agree. They should have either cut it short or showed something else while it was playing. I think it would’ve been nice to see more of Cassie and Maddy fight during the song as character foils showing how friendships end in different ways sometimes peacefully other times violently

[@sarikaramanathan4687]

the maddy/cassie fight scene needed to be at least the length of elliot’s dumb song

[@isabelleseguinlatorre7403]

agreed

[@notcha8080]

i liked rue and jules’s small, meaningful scene, but i hate that elliot got a conversation with rue but jules didn’t. if they don’t have a deep ass conversation next season i will be sad.

[@otaku11bts23]

It mirrors how Jules left Rue in season one

[@rowanshafei7326]

I don’t think Jules deserves that kind of closure their relationship was too messy and too draining for both of them it’s better that ends that way and they just move on

[@notcha8080]

@@rowanshafei7326 they both deserve closure actually.

[@Dont_at_me]

@@notcha8080 i don’t feel like Jules deserves it she was too damn messy and she should figure that bullshit out on her own the only reason I think Elliot got closure was cause he basically saved her life

[@caitlinedinger654]

Rue also did say she needs more time before she can even try to initiate conversation w Jules… so definitely something that will happen next season I think

[@PastelCrimson]

And now we’re going to have to wait 2 years to find out what happens and to try and make sense of it all, hopefully they put out special episodes

[@gayvalds]

And then Sam Levinson will just disregard the character building put in place by the special episodes when it comes time for the real season

[@n.k.pierro]

i hope its fez and lexi that get special episodes so they can deal with that fallout a little separated from like all the messiness of everyone else cause i dont want sam to try to incorporate that heaviness into the chaotic bs he probably doesnt even know yet for s3

[@youmeandgravity]

@@n.k.pierro it’s gonna be like Elliot and Cassie or something watch

[@kay2624]

Actually s3 I saw it on tiktok and Wikipedia is set to February 21 2023

[@gloomy.y]

That hasn’t been confirmed literally fans have just been throwing that around and now everyone thinks it’s true. there’s not a single credible source from Sam, HBO, or any of the actors that have told us when season 3 will be released.

[@oreooreo101]

Okay but Lexie REALLY didn’t need to put the carousel moment in there 😭

[@disqraced6173]

…wrong

[@DanisDiamonds]

right like that was too far 😭

[@mitchyangel2]

Finally someone who says what I was thinking. Imagine you putting on a play and exposing everyone’s pain without their permission. On one hand I get it because some of this is her story but on the other hand scenes like her sister on the carousel a moment where you could tell she was embarrassed is weird. Also if Rue hadn’t taken the play well imagine what could have happened ? It’s literally the story of how she lost her dad and spiraled and she’s in the middle of relapse from a relapse she had days ago. She even included maddy crying and talking about her parents fighting all of those moments are so personal. Part of me gets it but the other part is like wow a lot of people could have reacted to that so wrong

[@mkwhite5054]

That was the only moment where I felt Lexi was truly doing something petty, everything else could have easily been seen as something relatable or just heightened storytelling or something like that but with how many people recorded Cassie’s little joyride on the carousel… most people would’ve known it was her.

[@mitchyangel2]

@@mkwhite5054 exactly and then when the girl yelled I love having sex or whatever she said I did not like that. If you put aside what Cassie is doing with Nate we have seen her story and her desire to be loved and how she sleeps with these guys because she wants them to stay. It kinda cheapened her pain and made her look like a slut. I feel like Lexi may have good intentions but she also clearly wanted to hurt her sister

[@dressup1nyou]

season 1 really had something to say and executed it well (i mean not without problems but overall very good) season 2 felt like they took that success and didn’t know where to go with it they just stuck with the leave audiences shocked after every episode without actually answering any questions

[@vivian9542]

Imo season 2 was more focused on showing the affects of rues drug use on the people around her. Her relationship with lexi fell apart and that led to lexi making her play which in a full circle way was the only way for rue to see herself in a different light and give her the hope she didn't have before. We also saw a ton more of what rues mom goes through, Gia as well. And I think Cassies storyline this season was also very interesting. She said in one episode that rue shouldn't get a pass because Cassie and lexi went through similar things that rue did yet Cassie has chosen to see herself as some kind of victim and refuses to face the consequences or see any consequences at all for her actions while lexi feels like an outcast/observer and rue has chosen to punish herself

[@ashleyzito5414]

I think offering new questions is just as worthy for art. It dives deeper into the themes it introduced it the first season… and now there’s a season 3!

[@RukiyaReacts]

The show kept hyping up how much of a fighter Maddy is this whole season, just to give us a lil slap and shove in the finale… 😐

[@boomboom1139]

Fr Cassie’s actress popped a toe for that?? 😪

[@CassiesLab]

omfg I keep saying this!!!!! I feel like Maddy held back the whole time 😭 I wanted her to slam dunk Cassie's ass so bad. And on top of that, why TF did it feel like it was in slow motion 😒

[@thefishonland5216]

The show didn't hype up the fight we the fans did so we let ourselves down.

[@RukiyaReacts]

@@thefishonland5216 the show did hype it up. The show had a montage of Maddy beating up other girls and even one of the earlier promos made it seem as if Maddy was beating up Cassie. Also, in the hot tub scene, Maddy said she loves a good fight.

[@totaltotal8481]

@@RukiyaReacts Maddie shoving those other girls was exactly what she did to Cassie, so to think that there would be some grandiose fight when Maddie literally did what she always did before... And her saying I love a good fight doesn't necessarily mean physical, she primarily also meant screaming and arguing with Nate, not necessarily getting in a physical fight with him

[@kiwi9445]

Trin did what a whole wardrobe, hair, and make-up department did all by herself, she looks like walked straight off the set of Euphoria and it is ✨breathtaking✨

[@oreooreo101]

Ultimately I ship Cassie with therapy but it was nice to see her moment with the wall first 😊❤️

[@pixiebxtch5492]

LMFAOOO

[@parizbattee1392]

Elliot’s was phenomenal but he had no right to sing for so long and then be like “I’m still working on it” ???? Like are you tho baby????

[@Lilarkive]

CAN WE JUST ADDRESS THAT TRIN LOOKS ABSOLUTELY STUNNING IN THAT DRESS???

[@mackennaberg5933]

LITERALLY!!! Does anyone have any idea where to find it??

[@mariana-ni9wl]

This season was a mess and the finale was not better. Can’t believe they did nothing with Jules this season😭

[@saliytg5975]

Yeah like she's practically alone like she has no friends and the sèx tape wasn't even her plot line it was Maddy and nate and cal I think that it should have involved her more

[@tannerv259]

Fr i hated this season 😭 don’t know why it suddenly got super popular…... like where were ya’ll years ago when the show was actually good???

[@yasmeenrashid4106]

And they went backwards with Kat lol

[@theaitokyo]

to be fair i think that's rue's fault. bc since she is the narrator, she did say "nah i don't wanna talk bout jules" and it pans away from jules' storyline / what she was doing in her room. basically being self aware, rue didn't wanna talk bout jules since she was upset at her.

[@thefishonland5216]

@Giam King but its narrated by rue its her POV so it makes sense if she didn't want to talk about her.

[@kaxidoscope]

Sam really wrote a scene where Elliot sings “laaa laaa laaaa friendship” and expected us to forgive him for what he did. He was legit cruel in his intentions from the start…

[@patriece2215]

Sam didn’t put that in it was zendaya.

[@uhohmykokoro1616]

I really don’t think he’s the evil mastermind people try to paint him as. He’s just a dumb teenager like the rest of the cast 🤷‍♀️

[@LunaWitcher]

@@uhohmykokoro1616 he can have a dumb motivation and still use awful tactics to achieve what he wants. He wanted to f*ck someone and for that he betrayed a friend in multiple ways, and that's awful already, but he also didn't even stomach seeing the result of his actions. Coward behavior.

[@gloomy.y]

@@LunaWitcher did you forget he’s an addict? i can’t even begin to explain what drugs will do to your mind when you’re always on them. they make you think things are okay when they aren’t. you see no wrong, you don’t think, you just do. that’s my experience too. i did some of the grimiest most out of character things when i was on drugs. and i get memories everyday on my snapchat..the things i said, the things i did, the way my mind was processing and working in that time is absolutely unbelievable. and i used to post what was on my mind like it made any sort of sense to anyone else. it’s embarrassing to look back on. Elliott is an addict and you can only do drugs for so long before they start chemically changing your mind. that’s where he’s at, that’s his struggle in this show just like the rest of the characters and their struggles. it’s always much deeper than what most people see on the surface, Sam himself has said it. it’s not just bad guy does bad things, it’s good guy made bad decision which led him into doing bad things. far more complex than most people care to comprehend these days but that’s the truth of it. the bigger picture behind this show is absolutely genius, i wish it wasn’t overlooked so often. there’s always reasons why people are the way they are or why they do the things they do. Sam does a great job at showing us that..I don’t know how people are missing it :/

[@LunaWitcher]

@@gloomy.y So... Someone said Elliot was just a dumb teen, I responded saying you can be dumb and still do awful things to get what your dumb mind wants, and you responded with "He's a drug addict". Do you not see the problem with your speech? Having a reason for doing awful things doesn't excuse you from having done them, it just explains them. I'm judging Elliot based on what he did with the information he had. He uses drugs with Rue, but he is not high enough all the time to be incapable of taking care of Rue when she goes into cardiac arrest next to him and asks for help. He's not some helpless addict being controlled by his addiction, he's just a normal addict. And that was explained in the show. He knows Rue is lying to her girlfriend because her girlfriend doesn't wanna be involved with drugs or addicts, so the moment he realizes he has a chance of f*cking Jules, he *blows away the drugs* right after Rue used them. He told Jules the truth because *he* would feel guilty about f*cking someone he was actively lying to. All those things are awful, and they were also conscious decisions made by him while not high as a kite, just functionally high. Maybe you just want people to excuse him because you want people to excuse YOU. Just forgive yourself. What's done is done, what's gone is gone. You now know how you can get on drugs, so you have the motivation to not use them if you don't like how you get with them. If you regret what you did while on drugs, apologize (which was something Elliot didn't do at any point, might I add) and if someone does not forgive you, that's their call. You did your part.

[@jollyhotdog3537]

i literally hate how sam made jules cheat for NOTHING, it literally didn't have any purpose besides antagonize jules😭

[@jollyhotdog3537]

also why is elliot even here😭

[@kaepiper]

no literally she talked abt staying away from men so i feel like we should’ve had a scene where she calls out elliott for trying to do stuff with her and rue, knowing that they’re romantically involved w each other.

[@A2kisses]

i think the only thing it brought to the season is maybe separating rue and jules so that they can grow on their own in the future? idk tho i disliked the season in general so lmao

[@stoplisteningtothestatic7078]

i think jules is an addict in her own right. she is addicted/dependent on intimacy and validation. and she cheated on rue bc she wasn't getting any of that from rue bc rue was not on this planet this season. rue was in another dimension. so jules went to find solace and validation in the closet place which was elliot. bc elliot was telling jules she's smart and beautiful and sexual and all these things. im not trans but i've heard that need for validation is a big struggle a lot of trans women face. what jules did was cheating and it was wrong but it was a lot more complex than people make it out to be. jules isn't some evil whore who is just out to hurt rue. jules is a lot like rue in that she is a young girl with a lot of trauma she doesn't know what to do with. that's just my thoughts but i agree it would've been nice if sam had actually done something with this storyline but it feels like just more ammunition for people to hate jules and not understand her

[@Mrcjcbs]

Facts it made no sense it was js giving bad writing

[@dtsotm]

i’m not defending cassie bc like, she’s been awful this season, but why are we all just pretending that we would be okay with our sister doing this to us lol, i love lexi but what she did was wrong

[@jessicayoung3656]

People that see nothing wrong in what lexi did probably haven't been betrayed by a sibling. That shit hit close to home for me.

[@sarilchowdhury3955]

I think the reason is because Cassie did Lexi wrong first. Dosent justify what she did but I think for many people like me it felt just deserved for Cassie to get some taste of our medicine after how she regularly treats Lexi.

[@dtsotm]

@@sarilchowdhury3955 i disagree, cassie isn’t particularly horrible to lexi, to me it seems like a normal sister dynamic, she may be dismissive of her and they clearly have nothing in common but cassie never treated lexi in a way which was deserving of that level of invasiveness and public humiliation, it was nasty

[@graciela8916]

in the show lexi's play was iconic, but in reality lexi is WEIRD ASF for doing that...

[@dd8645]

exactly

[@AJ-ux7fo]

I think in reality Lexi show was iconic too just look at all the fake people she’s exposing lol

[@flaviacristina2774]

Just like everything about this show is entertaining to watch because it's a TV show, and if it where in real life it would be just sad and embarrassing

[@janiahpapaya5988]

True, but because its a show imma eat it up

[@SouravRoy-mu5on]

I just feel like there was a huge disconnect between season 1 & season 2. There were certain plotlines that felt unresolved from season 1 that weren't even mentioned this season. Like what happened with Tyler? Did Nate and Maddy just forget abt putting that innocent guy in jail? Also it made no sense that Cassie and Nate would be together in the first place, which was the driving plotline of season 2. Wasn't Cassie repulsed by him in season 1? I get that she wants to be loved and everything, but she wasn't so friggin stupid in season 1. Also there were a bunch of characters who pretty much did nothing or were written off this season (Kat, Jules, McKay). And I feel like there was literally no point for Elliot to be in this season either, he didn't contribute much other than that longass song. Idk I was severley underwhelmed.

[@tannerv259]

THIS 👆🏼

[@carosapien]

period

[@darianalove2007]

Sam copied a Israeli show called euphoria that came out in 2013 that only had one season .

[@sur_eal]

@@darianalove2007 he didn’t copy it he remade it

[@bondfall0072]

Covid happened.

[@trinaq]

Yes, we ALL know that Dominic Fike is a singer as well as an actor, but did the plot REALLY need to stand still for four minutes so he could plug his own music?!

[@queene315]

Exactly! I skipped that shit so fast

[@kaylynnjackson4393]

fun fact- its not actually his song. hes performing it but the song was written by zendaya and labyrinth and they asked him to play it on the show kinda last minute

[@lindseystein9676]

I liked the song a lot, but it was a little long to be in the middle of a show

[@queene315]

@@kaylynnjackson4393 it didn’t need 4 minutes

[@kaylynnjackson4393]

@@queene315 yeah I’m just saying like it’s not his song. Too long for sure, they could’ve given us some context on the ash shit with that time, but like it’s still not Dominic’s song

[@bunnieslyrics]

about ashtray, people say that everytime fez spoke with lexi about life’s plans on the phone, ash heard it so he sacrificed himself for him and also the fact that fezco was the only person ash had and trusted fully made him choose dead over living without him (bc fez would’ve gone to jail) i honestly think that he was just a kid who grew up surrounded by violence and didn’t know another way to deal with problems than using violence like he witnessed in every drug deal fez and him had to make (example, when they met laurie ash seemed so used to that dangerous environment bc he grew up with that)

[@alyssa1533]

exactly like ashtray did what he was taught to do which was to protect his family. and also he knew that if he left and surrendered he probably would’ve never seen fez again and he would rather die then live without his only family.

[@zoeymulncu2850]

I completely agree with your take. If the ash sacrificing himself for fez and lexi was actually true, they would've somehow showed us ash listening to their convo or whatnot so i think people are just trying to give ash's actions a bigger meaning. I definitely think he was thinking about fez and his safety but I also think he acted on instinct because that's the only way he knows how to deal with problems

[@maysunv]

I really don't understand the "ash sacrificed himself for fez " theory because in what world did him getting into a shoot out with the police and getting himself shot makes things better for fez? They still saw the knife in Fez's hand, fez is still going to jail, probably for even longer now because he killed an officer and even though it was ashtray who did it, they can definitely charge fez with being an accessory to that. Fez also grew up in the same lifestyle that ash did and you don't see him going around killing people all willy nilly. If anything, you would think growing up in that lifestyle would mean that he knows how stupid and pointless it would be to get into a shoot out with the police, and that he would be smarter and LESS impulsive (like fez). I think the honest truth is Sam didn't know how to end things, and he went for shock value rather than something that made sense. We shouldn't have to come up with these theories and assume things like "oh ash probably over heard fez and lexi and that's why he did it", which is something they never showed us, to make up for Sam's shitting writing.

[@maiaj376]

I don’t think that first theory makes any sense bc Fez is still gonna go to jail???

[@shisexee]

@@maysunv I think it also has to do with the fact that ashtrays actor is going to another show and scheduling and stuff would be hard. But yeah it kind of was bad writing....

[@dazey8706]

your analysis of rues and lexis friendship is SOOO well worded and spot on

[@maysunv]

I really hate that fans have to come up with theories to make up for the shitty writing in this season. There were so many things that weren't explained, characters doing things that didn't make sense, and I see people coming up with theories based off of stuff that was never shown to us in the show, to explain all of it. We should not have to assume or guess that something happened with a character off camera in order to explain something in the show. We should not have to make stuff up. This season was a mess and I'm tired of people making excuses for it.

[@tannerv259]

YESSSSS GO OFF, COULDN’T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF

[@Arizzu_98]

Yeah, we know Cassie did that to herself (carrousel), but... I don't understand in what way that affected Lexi or what was the point to put that in the play? I don't see other reason out that make fun of Cassie... I didn't really like some things she put in the play.

[@shandybeaches]

exactly!! that was soooo unnecessary and it left such a bad taste in my mouth ://

[@charlottebrown4572]

Agree, I could understand why she went up at that point!

[@cloudyblu7174]

It was very sinister of her

[@aromafrostXD]

Levinson said that what we're seeing is how ppl are perceiving it and not actually is what is happening. Cassie on the carousel is probably just an opening to a scene at a carnival but cassie sees it and interprets that that is what she's about to see.

[@Sheena000]

@@aromafrostXD thank you for the explanation. I feel like they should have made that more clear tho bc rn it feels like a cop out from Sam lol

[@El1society]

17:22 Bojack horseman touched up on this briefly in the last season. “If I don't write my book of essays now, that means all the damage I got, isn't good damage. It's just damage. I have gotten nothing out of it, and all of those years, I was miserable for nothing. I could have been happy this whole time and written a book about girl detectives and been cheerful and popular and had good parents, is that what you're saying? What was it all for?!” - Diane Nguyen S6E10

[@Harpie.]

Cassie is a clown but I don’t blame her for getting mad about the play. She didn’t have to make a scene tho, but idk why Lexi thought it would be funny to include the carousel scene. That shit is traumatizing

[@goaway3.017]

I remember seeing a tweet about why Ash did what he did. In most if not all episodes Ash is in, he's not saying anything, he's just observing and listening. Which means the entire time Lexi and Fez are getting to know eachother, talking on the phone, talking about what they want in the future. And he decides he can't let Fez let that go after all he'd done for him. So Ash had the shoot out to try and save Fez from having a life sentence and losing the future he wanted.

[@mekaylafoy3441]

I think he did it to prove to police he was CAPABLE of committing 3+ counts murder(as there were 5 cops and 3 previous victims)by shooting at them, so that when they saw what he did, they would realize how blood thirsty he was and wouldn't even consider Fez and Faye.

[@marshmallows394]

@@mekaylafoy3441 probably that too! atleast that’s how true crime works irl, cops take in whatever they witness as evidence. when it comes to protecting his family and loyalty, ash is smart as hell (for his age).

[@julienbakerscowboyhat]

i’m proud that rue can move on from jules and knowing she’s better without her but, i’m so concerned what’s gonna happen in szn 3 and so concerned what’s gonna happen with fezco..

[@lokismilinguido7262]

I was so happy they didnt end up together, both of them are not good in this relationship

[@flame_ofhope]

Honestly, i think S1 Rue & Jules was better in relationship. Rue already visited rehab when she meets Jules, so Jules has nothing to do with Rue's addiction. Also Jules feels really bad before she meet Rue and have opportunity to be herself.

[@julienbakerscowboyhat]

@@flame_ofhope i agree i think the concept of rules in season 1 was so much better but sam decided to ruin them in season 2 which triggered me

[@DanisDiamonds]

I understand that Ashtray’s actor needed to leave the show but I really feel like that plotline could have been pulled off better!!

[@hxavens4227]

why did he need to leave the show?

[@4zn4ngelz]

@@hxavens4227 he signed with Umbrella Academy and also wanted to focus more on his boxing

[@adeleaslan8182]

Couldn’t they have just had fez come to the realization that maybe this wasn’t the best scene for a kid and sent him away somewhere? Maybe even have being around Lexi help him come to that realization and having their relationship grow

[@4zn4ngelz]

@@adeleaslan8182 it wouldn’t have made sense for Ash as a character though. He’s always been around his brother and they’ve always worked as a pair. He’s very protective of him. Also many shows tend to kill off a character when the actor leaves the show. Figured they just thought that’d be easier especially since Javon signed with a new show and they were unsure if he’d even be able to return in the future. Plus it’s the finale. Probably wanted to go out with a bang and have a character death that would affect a lot of people

[@adeleaslan8182]

@@4zn4ngelz I see what you’re saying, but I think if there was development it could’ve made sense. At least ash would’ve been alive

[@shanethompson6938]

I feel much like how Zendaya stepped in a lot in the musical aspect this season. She should be apart of the writing process because I feel she understands this show better than anyone. Great videos this season though Trin would love the wrap up video.

[@marinakaye404]

No thoughts, head empty, just Trin in her sparkly iridescent fit 💫🧚🏽‍♀️✨you’re killing it babes

[@kaylaf7804]

Honestly, my biggest gripe with Euphoria has been all of the Maddy stans. Don't get me wrong, I felt for her a fair amount last season and towards the end of this season. However, the overwhelming hate for Cassie when Maddy was literally okay with lying and putting someone in jail for something is unbelievable to me. Sure, Cassie's behavior isn't justified but she's a high schooler who fell for someone who gave her attention (important edit: her friend's abuser, which is inexcusable but I also don't recall how aware of it she was). Meanwhile, Maddy was a right out beech and conniving af until her sudden clarity. I don't think either of them should be idolized, but my god the hate has been vile.

[@tannerv259]

I completely agree 👆🏼

[@dd8645]

i feel like people only like her because of her aesthetic and not her character

[@minervaae8765]

does maddy know tyler went to jail for nate? i know she lied about blacking out and nate not hurting her, but i don’t remember if we ever saw her knowing how it all went down. i totally agree with your points, i’m just trying to remember.

[@arina4387]

@@minervaae8765 as far as I remember, she told Nate that Tyler SA’d her, instead of it being the act of revenge she initiated against him… so not exactly morally great considering how Tyler ended up

[@sashulya40]

Oh my god finally. It drives me insane that people hate way more on Cassie for hooking up with her friend’s ex than on Maddie for literally going to the police and wrongfully accusing a man of sexually assaulting her. And I get it that he manipulated her but this season she was not under his influence anymore and could very well go and fix her damage. And the same goes for Jules

[@MaddyRadtke]

I just live for someone who relates everything in life back to Glee. We are not alone, we exist.

[@LunaWitcher]

I needed a lot less "dream" sequences. I didn't need half the season to be a metaphor, my guy. You can show us things, you don't need to solely imply them in 300 different ways. They literally showed us "Oh Nate hasn't moved on from Jules" like 3-4 times. _We get it._

[@LillyOkCool]

This is the one. The first season was way more reality grounded. It had lots of metaphors, but kept them fewer and far between as well as they were shorter maybe? The story progression was much more clear in season 1. Season 2 had me questioning which sequences were metaphors and which weren’t to an extent of it being not such a good thing.

[@Foxykkj]

I love trin's interpretations she just explains the feelings behind the viewers while watching it, we're raging at cassie and rooting for fez and lexie :( yet we get nothing we expected from the episode

[@Zechree]

Ashtray was gonna be the one to take responsibility he was not gonna let fez take the fall and he wasn’t gonna go down without a fight. Very sad that he was raised with the mindset of a child soldier. Think back to the flash back with fez’s grandmother. It’s all he knows. Sad that he was so smart for the wrong reasons.

[@ingaxnathi]

i really loved hearing ur thoughts on this episode specifically trin. i've been a bit dissapointed to say the least at how sam wrote this season... the graphic- over the top- only for shock value aspect took centre stage most of the time i feel, along with the reality tv esq style he seemed to love this season, especially when writing scenes between maddie and cassie... VS with s1 when everything felt uncomfortable at times but not too distracting from the "deeper meaning". i think that's where i'll stop but in summary, hearing u highlite some of the good that i missed abt this ep + season was needed for me.

[@indiras3452]

I do feel like this episode was mediocre compared to the s1 finale, now THAT was a finale! The only parts that kept me on the fence in this episode was ashtray and fez, rue leaving Jules and being clean, Lexi's play and Maddy and Cassie's so called fight

[@hanako9587]

i agree, and the sad part is that everything you listed is pretty much ALL that happened in the episode. for a finale. sure it tied up some story but it made it worse by leaving twice as many loose ends. it definitely felt like an episode before the finale

[@dicedbyher]

So the only parts of the finale that kept you on the fence were all 4 of the major plot lines lmao 😭

[@kidmehki]

In episode 1 of this season, Fez saw his brother for the first time in the hallway. Now in the last episode, he sees his brother for the last time in the hallway 😢😭😭

[@thefilipinonerd]

can we also talk about how Cassie only did all this after NATE got pissed?? THATS what crossed the line for her to disrupt her sister's play??

[@harriyanna]

i was very unsatisfied with that fight. like nahhh i needed to see more than a slap and her smackin her head against the wall!!!

[@littletrebleclef]

Yes girl, I wanted Maddie to smash her skull in with the locker door like in that one scene.

[@anyabarnes9316]

euphoria s3 releases in 2024. we'll have forgotten the whole damn show by then😭😭😭

[@annavitoriasantos4174]

Ok so i liked this season but season 1 still better, i feel like the *each ep is about a character* is sooo much better cause you really get to understand more of why and how each character got there. Even tho they did like 2 or 3 eps like that in this season there was still room for many more, cause kat 4 exemple, had such a big arc last season and in this one she never got any screen time, and she is probably one of the most interesting characters we have so that kind of threw me off a bit. Another thing is i feel like the plot made way more sence how the storys came together... But one thing i'll say it was so mych better this season was rue's arc it was so good how they portraid addiction in ep 5, i loved lexi's arc as well but the rest just seamed so boring in a way. The astheric in S1 was so much better too i feel like the colours in S1 was so good and now when you think of euphoria you think purple nor yellow so yeah... loved the video as always and i love how you say more ur opinions now about how a scene is portraint and everything love you byee

[@an-qo6by]

I feel like the INSANE hype of season 1 euphoria put a lot of pressure on the creators. I can't help but assume Sam Levinson has a huge ego, there's no way to explain how they could go through with all the decisions they made for season 2. I don't get why they thought they should ruin a good thing by changing from digital to film, changing the formula of the characters and flow of dialogue, choosing shock value moments instead of choices that would be true to the character, etc. You have to think as the viewers of the show, and what they want to see. It just bothers me because if there were a writing team, I am sure they could have CONTINUED the story from season 1, and make Laurie the main plot line, with the dark edge it seems Sam wanted, without losing the special essence of the show. I have never felt so disappointed, more because this show was so well made. I didn't see it coming.

[@hxavens4227]

i agree with everything besides the film part. i actually liked that. felt like a nice change 🤷‍♀️

[@evunee]

The switch to film was amazing though

[@juliafowlie]

Agree so much. Genuinely pissed that Laurie plot was never brought up past episode 5. I was so excited to see more about it but it was completely forgotten and spend 2 episodes on Lexi’s play basically replaying the plot of season 1 and giving us nothing new to progress into season 3

[@an-qo6by]

@@juliafowlie there was so much potential this season. a tight plot is so important. and then their idea from season 1 of having ALL the characters in the eps, and them coming together, was smart too. the storyline of rue, jules and nate, continuing Kat's storyline that OF COURSE the viewers would notice if she was put on the sidelines which she was... wow

[@an-qo6by]

@@hxavens4227 I love film most of the time, but I felt the digital is what made euphoria's cinematography stand out and give that unique "signature" of the show. Making it film kinda changed the vibe. And it was only season 2. they could have waited to make it such a change but idk just my opinion

[@edenmarie8064]

Okay, I have two thoughts, one about Lexi and one about Ashtray. I know you all love Lexi and I like her as a person for the most part but she had such an incredible God complex putting on this play. It is absolutely fine for her to share her traumatic experiences but she put in 4 unnecessary scenes that tell me she was hurt and unconsciously wanted to be petty and "hurt" others. 1. Exposing Maddy's family drama/ turmoil, 2. Nate's "coming out" scene (which I mostly have an issue with because to me, it seems like she would do this to anybody, Nate just happened to be the person because there hasn't been much proof that she really knows how abusive he is). 3. Cassie's carousel (Yes, she is responsible but what development did that add to her play besides to embarrass Cassie?) 4. Rue's speech at her dad's funeral. Honestly, it just seemed like Lexi was hurt and wanted to be petty by doing this play. And I know not to take it so seriously, it's just a show. I just wanted to say from another perspective for those praising her play. Because, be honest, if someone did this to you, being so invasive in your personal business and showing your whole school, would you be praising them? Now, as for Ashtray. I see why it's hard to understand him making this decision as he has been the "smart one" but think about his environment. He's grown up around dealing and violence. And granted, Fezco didn't end up that way but that shows how an unstable, toxic environment can lead to multiple different outcomes. Ash didn't see another logical way out of his situation and he did what he believed was best while also being in a high energy situation, therefore his judgment was heavily clouded. What it seems like is Ash's worst fear is losing Fezco, his older brother and he did whatever it took to protect him. Unfortunately, he slipped up and ended his life but I can understand where he was at. One of the best things about this show is that no one is 100% good or bad....except for Nate Jacobs. But seriously, they make the choices they do based on their environment. I don't think Lexi is a bad person but I think she made a questionable choice being invasive and displaying everyone's privacy. And I wonder if her hatred for Cassie not only comes with her relationship with her but also her relationship with her mother. From season 1, Suze always seemed to pay more attention to Cassie, everyone did. And maybe Lexi felt neglected and her feelings are 100% valid. I'm just unsure if airing everyone out in this way was the best idea. I'm glad Rue took from it what she did but I personally would be very upset if my best friend shared my dad's funeral speech in her play. I probably would never talk to her again.

[@user-ny8td3on3m]

It wasn't Nate's coming out scene it literally was a show on toxic masculinty in world and her school, it literally could have represented anyone at the school and their behavior. Plus if thats show she sees him then so be it, it's literally her on views on the world not anyone elses. And rue literally said she liked Lexi's play and never looked at herself from that persepctive before.

[@ilovebadtzmaruuu]

Maddy really said: 👑👑👑✨✨✨✨✨ also can we appreciate how GORGEOUS Trin always looks in every video? Girl’s my inspiration fr

[@kirometoru6901]

I really think they should do a Joker style movie for Harley Quinn, and have Sydney Sweeney play her. She would absolutely kill it.

[@maddy3109]

I áctually think this could work

[@nenasmith6291]

fun idea but I really can't imagine anyone other than morgot robbie playing harley. she seriouly blew it out of the water. though that could be interesting.

[@ad-dk3md]

Ashtray as the next Robin>>>>

[@kirometoru6901]

@@ad-dk3md specifically Damian Wayne with the way he be acting

[@katemc4164]

Kinda weird but your commentary and like sense of humour teal3ly helped me through tough times and i always appreciate you posting when you can. Love from ireland

[@lokismilinguido7262]

I may not be the only one but even with Lexie's intentions being good, the play was... weird?? in my opinion. like... rue took it easy but imagine if she hadn't liked having HER FATHER'S FUNERAL and her drug abuse exposed to the entire school (the majority of them know about rue's shit), and in cassie's case, well she's not innocent of anything but the scene of the carousel...? seriously lexie?? everyone at school should already have seen this, but why tho LMAO I didn't care much about this season or Cassie, and I know everyone hates her and wanted her to be humiliated but I still found the whole play very strange... everyone thought it was iconic but to me it's just weird (apart from the others versions of maddy, kat and others, because most didn't even know they were inspired by real people) some said that lexie sent a copy of the script to rue but i don't remember that, what episode happened?

[@dd8645]

It’s kinda messed up . Feels like she's making a show out of people's trauma and cantering herself around it.

[@iside2373]

Literally, Cassie is no saint but reading people saying that she deserve it make me sick. At least Rue she porrayed her in a good light making the audience understand why she is the way she is; BUT CASSIE?? She just made her look like a dumb blonde who likes to be sexualised

[@Sheena000]

It makes no sense honesty and doesn’t make sense for lexis character either. She’s not careless or inconsiderate that she’d overlook the play’s effects. I think the show runners just wanted to have a play episode for the visuals they could do with it. The only other explanation is that the characters saw the play in a more exaggerated way than it was but that feels like a cop out.

[@AriaLouisa]

Also, in what world would watching this play not trigger the fuck out of rue and make her relapse??

[@ladycobrana852]

What have you are to remember is that lexis trauma is valid and she’s allowed to retell it. All she did was tell it and the things that happened. The carousel scene was completely unnecessary but aside from that she’s allowed to tell it since that’s how it happened, it’s literally her life, and if someone had a hand in how certain things went down it’s not demonizing them, just showing what they did. This is from her perspective, if Cassie seems bad is because that’s how she saw it.

[@tanita6234]

I honestly didn't like Lexi putting the carousel part in , like there's no point there just humiliation, also or acting like if kat, Maddy and Cassie where all shallow bi,tches she should know better and I don't like how she was one of the few good characters but they made her a whole pick me girl, this season was so disappointing honestly, wtf with ash?

[@MaeArt725]

Yeah the carousel scene was just- no. Cassie isn’t a saint, but no one deserves that.

[@tanita6234]

@@MaeArt725 i mean that's your sister, they used to fight but just like siblings do, you know? The play was just a low punch on so many levels

[@shandybeaches]

same!! that was the part where my frustration/dislike for cassie decreased and i kinda started questioning my liking for lexi :// that carousel scene was just horrid and i don't understand why people think cassie deserved that???

[@MaeArt725]

@@tanita6234 yeah definitely a low blow. Out of everything, she chooses the moment Cassie had publicly embarrassed herself on accident and then have her relive that.

[@sashulya40]

She definitely gave off pick me girl vibes this season. The whole point of the play seemed to be to let out her frustration and pettiness on people in her life by “exposing” them and showcasing their most vulnerable moments

[@neyland444]

she has a family, she’s a MOTHER!!

[@eumrtn9056]

i just cant believe we wen't through eight episodes of build up and all we got for the fight between maddy and cassie was one slap and cassie hitting her head against the wall.

[@jadendiaz3615]

These Two final episodes had me going through all the emotions for some reason but I would have to say I liked the finally what about you guys.

[@iluvturkeys9010]

Same

[@LizzieSB]

Same

[@aashnam4040]

Not at all, the worst season.

[@mannabslot]

i definitely prefer the s1 finale (probably mostly bc of the school dance outfits and zendaya's musical number at the end lol) but i was on the edge of my seat a lot watching this fez and ash and also cassie going onstage. i hope s3 has a bit more of the magic from s1 that s2 kinda lacked in my opinion! love u trin

[@izabellecfreitas8592]

am i the only one who can't connect thus characters with their versions in season 1? like i was watching s1 last week and Ash is nothing like we see it in s2, he's actions this season came out of nowhere. idk idk might be just me

[@lolalocke2533]

no ur def not alone in thinking that, ash came across SO DIFFERENTLY in s1 it’s literally insane. idk if it’s because the actor grew from a kid to a teenager in between filming or if it’s just weird writing

[@lily-zv8vo]

100%, he came off as a chill kid (except for the fact he's a dealer) in the first season. second season he became this weird silent tough guy, i couldnt really care for his death that much after those terrible writing choices.

[@jadac6585]

A lot of the characters are like that I feel like Nate and lexi ( kind of ) come across as completely different from season 1 it’s kind of jarring acc

[@lily-zv8vo]

@@jadac6585 i think lexi’s just different because she really did nothing in the first season and they tried to make her a little less boring???? and nate they tried to humanise which i didn’t really rock with cause it did not work

[@jadac6585]

@@lily-zv8vo Yh I think I find it distracting because it’s so abrupt with no arc and giving lexi something to do isn’t rly the same as character development

[@moon_jmi]

the only thing i liked about this finale was the lexi-rue scene at the end...other than that it was very disappointing & so many scene just didn't make any sense

[@sammizedk]

this video is a perfect example of why i watch trin.... she is such a queen. and explains things in my language. her euphoria reactions are everything

[@briannaforward1155]

I know Ashtray had to go, but I was so mad at him. I was literally yelling at the TV, "What are you doing?" Good lord. I don't like that they only clarified that Rue stayed clean the rest of the school year. I am guessing we have another relapse. I also am not emotionally ready for whatever Lori is going to do to Rue, that plot can't just disappear. I guess we have a few YEARS to prepare ourselves lol.

[@cassidyharris8846]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who was underwhelmed. Everyone was in love with it but imo it was meh

[@tannerv259]

No fr

[@aashnam4040]

Asffff

[@zeeo3147]

Fr

[@giorgia.m]

Hard disagree on the Cassie carousel thing. I would like Lexi to admit she was just being evil with that one!!! It had no relevance to anything!!! As if she thought Cassie was gonna just sit and watch that peacefully 🥴 Are we kidding ourselves? I don’t feel bad her play got disrupted, that’s kinda what you risk when you play puppeteer to your friends and families trauma. I don’t know I’m just really disappointed in her, I liked her so much but the pretending to have completely good intentions and be innocent while you rip off other peoples lives was not it for me !!! Agree with everything else you said though Trin ❤️‍🩹

[@mariah6395]

Lexi is a character in a show that talks about people's relationships, their dynamics and the way their wrong life choices affect it all. Lexi isn't supposed to be flawless and perfect. The play came for her as a way to deal with the stuff that happened to her, show how her own relationships transformed through the years and obviously, write about her own feelings, which include envy, anxiety, sadness and yes, immaturity. She is still a teenager, so she is going to feel a mess of things and she has spent years on the backseat for Cassie and her accomplishments so that is also going to show in the play. I'm 25 but I've done and said plenty of things about my own sister and mother, two of the people who I love more than anything in the world, that I am ashamed and sorry for. That said, the way each character reacts to her play also says a lot. Rue finds healing because she sees someone being empathic towards her and seeing her more kindly than she sees herself, Maddy feels avenged because the play shows a bunch of toxic dynamics in her previous relationship with Nate and, like Trin said, Cassie can only focus on the bad or embarrassing sides because she has a lot of insecurity and is constantly worried about the love and acceptance of others.

[@AJ-ux7fo]

If you get offended from this play then that says something about you

[@GabesEdtiz]

I honestly don’t care lol. Cassie’s character was so unsympathetic this season, so it made it extremely hard for me to feel bad for her, or any of the characters for that matter.

[@sarilchowdhury3955]

I think the reason is because Cassie did Lexi wrong first. Dosent justify what she did but I think for many people like me it felt just deserved for Cassie to get some taste of our medicine after how she regularly treats Lexi.

[@user-vp1ql4hv5b]

I'm not a Cassie apologist but I kinda feel like she was a bit in her right to be mad about the play. Lexi didn't portray on any moment the good qualities about Cassie, maybe just when she let Martha stay on her house and sleep with her. And also when Lexi said that about being smart and also hot she was referring to herself if puberty did the same to her as to Cassie lol. And that carousel scene was definitely unnecessary and if something it could have made people recognize Cassie and realize who that character was if they hadn't realized before. Was Cassie being mean to Lexi when she got on that stage? Yes, but so was Lexi with her play.

[@shandybeaches]

im with you! and i feel sad that not much people think lexi's play was unethical and almost exploitative :/ really felt bad for cassie there

[@GabesEdtiz]

If you really want to blame anyone, blame the school. They allowed this play to go on in the first place. Besides, I don’t feel much sympathy for Cassie or any of the characters; the writing just made them so unlikeable and hard to feel sorry for. Let the show go on! I could care less…

[@patriciaramirez2982]

so with ashtray we have to take in mind that he's only 12 and that he's grown up in an environment where the choices were fight or flight and he always chooses fight which is why he hid in the bathroom as for the takeout I think he genuinely thought there was only one cop cuz when he shot him he looked happy and relieved until he realize the laser pointing at him

[@tomlawal7991]

But did the title lie tho? The show really fell off after season 1 man; from main characters turning into props *kat&jules*, you can really tell there was no clear linear progression of the story mapped out.

[@tannerv259]

THIS 👆🏼

[@reemtaha5398]

I was so mad when kat storyline disappeared like I wanna know who was that creepy man video chatting with Kat

[@fr4nmich4]

i think in ashtray’s mind, this is what he had to do. ash grew up around violence and drugs at a such younger age and assume that violence is the solution.

[@ferni0307]

Elliot's song (10 minutes version)

[@JVC_00]

I’ve said before that I have a crush on Trin, but the way her hair looks and the dress she’s wearing in this episode? I literally wanna marry her right now like wtf

[@maryamesque]

i think this is what ashtray just had to do, in his mind. he grew up knowing only drugs and violence. i also think since he was abanonded at such a young age, he has this saviour complex and fear of those he loves (such as fezco & even their grandma getting sick) leaving him, therefore making him believe that in order for fez not to leave him, this was the right thing to do (to protect those he loves, even if means murder & sacrificing yourself)

[@emaanfatima409]

No cause with the amount of plotholes left in the finale season 3 better deliver 😭

[@charleewilkinson7984]

Honestly you are so right for example when Elliot sang to rue it was such a beautiful and heartwarming moment for rue but everyone said it was “so boring” or “too long” it was not supposed to be a big drastic thing it was a sweet and healing moment for rue

[@tannerv259]

But elliot isn’t a sweet guy 🤣 he was toxic throughout the entire season and the writers just wanted us to forgive him over a little song…….. which clearly worked on some people 😅😅

[@222222ania]

Also love Lexi and all that but that caroussel scene was clearly there to humiliate Cassie

[@tragiccashleyy]

honestly i enjoyed elliot’s song i thought it was sweet & i think it’s a small moment that will mean a lot to rue in the long run, granted it didn’t need to be that long but still very wholesome.

[@blondienumberone]

Ashtray knew he either had to take the fall for killing someone, or that fez was going to take the fall. Either situation left him without fez, probably in jail, orphanage or foster home. He didn't really know, but he did know that fez would not be there and he decided he couldn't live that way, and went on his suicide mission.

[@st4rboyshaun]

cant hop on the train of everyone supporting Lexi’s play and praising her for putting peoples trauma on display .. but ok

[@RatEatRat]

for real. like people don't want to admit that it's fucked up because they like the character.

[@noelle2624]

Lit rally it’s giving toxic behavior

[@bleachisgoodforurhealth9946]

I saw bunch of fans saying that this would help Cassie lol if anything this will make her try to kill herself

[@nikolinapopovic5864]

Yess i also feel like if she is this nice inteligent character she would have wrote a play that is not the direct replay of her and other's lives but more so that it has similar themes and motive and that wouldn't be so obvious to make correlations with her life (like sam levison is making a show about addiction that he suffered from but not actualy the show being from his life)

[@ad-dk3md]

cassie is the only person she exposed. the carousel was all that rlly took it too far. and to be fair, cassie literally left her family for nate, and called lexi a lot of fucked up shit before practically disowning her and suze. cassie doesnt really love lexi and hasnt the last couple episodes. why pull punches when your sister doesnt want to be in your life or your moms life anymore? cassie didnt even treat lexi like a person, she doesn't deserve to have her role in the play censored. maybe if she treated lex like a person lex would have run stuff by cass like she did to rue. but cass is not a friend, so fuck her feelings IMO. i like that lexi can vent somehow

[@taisfelicia9453]

does no one see how fucked up this play is in general tho ? Like be realistic, you would not be okay with it if it was you being exposed in the play

[@littletrebleclef]

Yeah but it's not real life it's a show and it's excellent for the drama and conflict it creates.

[@shandybeaches]

yup! i think the play would have been shut down by the school admin (if they exist) right at the "i need a hero" scene HFHDHSASH

[@user-ny8td3on3m]

@@shandybeaches in every comment of yours u are taking this play wayyy to seriously. She's writing about her life and how other people's actions and perspectives have affected her, just like several real life writers do.

[@laurenrose5875]

I think when Fez told Ash he’d take the blame and go to jail, Ash’s fight or flight instincts activated, because he would be all alone without Fez and he didn’t want to go through that. I think that’s why he did why he did. I loved episode 5 the most, followed by the last two episodes of the season. There were some beautiful, artistic shots but I feel like plot-wise the series was a bit of a mess. I love your commentaries so thank you for covering Euphoria!

[@rafaelasofia6417]

i started crying when cassie started screaming at lexi cause that sounds like something my *younger* sister could say sdfghjkl

[@LovellTrin]

OMG

[@andreaisabelgarcia462]

I think a lot of people watched this season because of the pandemic... not everyone had HBO max when season 1 was released, I feel like season 2 had a lot of high expectations, that's why it failed in a lot of aspects, what I mean is that the show was trying to be something different because of the target audience, it didn't showed many character development, just magicaly Rue get herself better, and the other characters were just having a little drama around them, also why incorporate a new character like Elliot? He was only a drama creator between Rue and Jewel, besides that he doesn't had any storyline. Everything was rushed and it didn't had any meaning whatsoever, for me Season 1 was very coherent, this season had many plotholes and the storylines didn't connect with eachother like in season 1. Other thing that I would like to add is that there were 2 love triangles 🥴 how annoying was that? Jewel-Rue-Elliot vs Cassie-Maddy-Nate, it felt really empty without those two storylines, Rue having a complete meltdown was the most boring thing until the plot made me belive that Rue was getting a real life lesson, honestly... Rue getting better without any consecuences for her actions was the least credible scene, she hurt many people along the way and everyone forgave her??? And Jules was like a bystander??? She didn't react as expected. Finally... I hope season 3 gets better, and show less nudity, even Jacob Elordi was annoyed by that. Sam Levinson doesn't have writting skills because this show is a lot darker in the original version

[@beyzamellis]

Season 1 and Season 2 not really being connected was everyone's criticism and tbh I agree too. So many storylines, charachter arcs have been uncomplete but I'm trying to think positive thinking that maybe doing a superbowl in S3? Like all the arcs and storylines connecting and leading to a massive finale? Idk I would really enjoy it.

[@Foxykkj]

did no one else feel like there was too much nate jacobs screen time and it took up most of this season and last season...

[@lolalocke2533]

i think his screen time was justified in s1 bc he was involved in so many of the characters plots, like his relationship with maddy, catfishing jules and just generally making everyone miserable but he was in s2 wayyyyy too much for basically nothing. the only substantial things he did this season was get his dad arrested and make cassie insane

[@ViniciusEduardoSilvaDosSantos]

i don't know if you heard but the actor who plays ashtray said fez was supposed to die not ash, sam levinson changed that like two days before filming..

[@gh0ulgirl]

yes do a season 2 wrap up!! i’m curious about your full thought over the season also your outfit and makeup are on point you look so good

[@lucileap2034]

When you spoke about Antonin Artaud's book I was about to f*cking claw my eyes out, lmao, last year I wrote an essay on contemporary theatre and I used it A LOT. Anyway, my thoughts : Elliot's song was way too long as everyone said 😐 Lexi's play was really good, and I think it's beautiful how a lot of it was actually about her friendship with Rue. I loved how everyone but Nate and Cassie was having a wonderful time, it felt relaxing in a way. Ash's death broke me especially because he's a little brother and I can't imagine Fez's pain (+ the actor is such a cute kid, it's really difficult imagining him dead). Nate and his dad's interaction got me SO STRESSED omg, but tbh I thought it was good of Nate (and for him too) to tell the police, I think it's fair, and it will allow him to perhaps heal better (also my suspicions were confirmed with that weird scene from ep7, he indeed was afraid his dad would do to him what he saw on the tapes).

[@addangel]

Lexi's play was entertaining, but she was wrong for it. It's one thing to portray you own experiences, and quite another to show your sister pleasuring herself on a carousel because she was on drugs, or your bff's letter to her dad that she read at his funeral (especially given that Rue to this day ONLY talks about her dad when she's high). Cassie is right when she says that Lexi hasn't lived and that's why she can afford to sit on her high horse and judge everyone else. The sad thing is that I don't think one is the hero and the other the villain. They are the reverse of the same coin, both affected by their dad leaving and their mother not caring much, only Cassie went out to seek love and affection wherever she could and Lexi became overly cautious and afraid of taking chances. Lexi saw Cassie constantly getting praised for her looks, and felt like she was living in her shadow, but we've seen how much all that conditioning has affected every single one of Cassie's relationships: from her nudes being spread throughout the school to every guy seeing her either as a trophy or an easy conquest. But what I hated about this season is that we're not allowed to feel bad for Cassie at all. She's suddenly the evil, completely irrational "slut" who went after her bff's ex. She's 2 dimensional. A caricature who suddenly has 0 internal life and 0 redeeming qualities.Even fucking Cal and Nate are portrayed more empathetically than her, and I blame that on having a male writer, incapable of seeing her humanity behind all the hurt. Because where's Cassie's nuance? Where is all that vulnerability we saw last season? Where is she dealing with her abortion, or showing any kind of emotion that isn't played for laughs? Suddenly she's only good for nude scenes and looking unhinged? Sam Levinson is wrong for this.

[@einfachhier3858]

I opened the video and I was like miss girl how can you look so stunning

[@RukiyaReacts]

*Reads the video title* Glad I’m not the only one that thought so 🤭

[@ingreed4154]

My first thought when Rue said to Lexi, "I don't know how to do that" was that I don't think she's talking about making something "pretty" or "great" out of pain/trauma but just "how do I feel again, how do I face it, how can I face feelings" and what Lexi did was kind of like, what it worked for her, writing about it, re-playing the experiences in the play, which is itself therapeutic. Compared to Rue who found "care" in drugs.

[@Shirush2151]

Please do a whole season wrap up !! I agreed with everything that you said. the fact that many people were disappointed with this finale because it didn’t have any shock values and moved kind of slow proves what you’ve said - a lot of people are not drawn to this series because of the deeper messages but rather because of the wtf moments aka Cassie and Maddie scenes . I actually LOVED this finale, it had many meaningful moments and left the door open for season 3 but also did kind of wrapped up the most important storyline in my opinion - rue’s. it sparked so much hope for her character and also the friendship of her and lexi - you couldn’t be more right about the things you said about them. I would love to hear more of your thoughts, you became my favorite reactor to this series ❤️

[@dance2damusic1]

Loved your commentary on the Maddy and Cassie situation and how you didn't just cheer for the cat fight. It's been sad seeing how their story progressed and is definitely such a disservice to season one. Not only to Cassie's character, but the fact that, once again, there were zero repercussions for Nate the abuser. Of course Cassie deserved that shove just for treating Maddie that way, but what the fuck man. Nobody in the show cared about Nate physically assaulting Maddie as much as they cared about Cassie betraying her and that doesn't sit right with me at all.

[@theauyanguren5673]

Yesss please make another video talking about the season as a whole! You're honestly my favorite film/show reviewer!!

[@crunchychicken2]

I think many people are forgetting that a lot of writing isn't always done entirely by the writers of a show. A lot of the times writers would have their plan set and sometimes days before having to film, the network would make major changes that the writers have to figure their way through. It happens in MANY shows and unfortunately is usually the reason behind their downfall. I'm not going to put all the blame on Sam since I know this happens a lot and the patterns behind everything seems like another case of the network company jumping in to make changes. I do hope that next season is much smoother and is handled with grace in comparison to what this season was.

[@sammyc3457]

GIRL U LOOK SO FREAKING GOOD (AS ALWAYS)!!!

[@Sol-xs2ir]

I would LOVE to see you do a full season wrap up video 🤍

[@FongioHELS]

i really like the parallels & contrasts in the maddy/cassie on-stage fight and the scene at the carnival in season 1 when they were standing together in the maze of mirrors, looking at 100 reflections and dedicating to be the best versions of themselves. going from that mirrors scene at the carnival, all the way to the similar looking set design on the stage, the contrast in where they were in their friendship couldn't be more stark. the season 2 scene even has circus music going on in the background. kinda like they're the entertaining circus next to the deeper, darker rue-centric stuff. (not to say their issues aren't serious, etc.)

[@tannerv259]

I fr hated season 2, it felt like a whole different show 🙄 anyways….. #1, I’ll always love cassie because of season 1. Almost every single character acted completely different in season 2, so nothing that happened this season even matters to me 💀 it’s like they’re in an alternate reality and I DON’T like it. #2, lexi’s play was NASTY. Like I get she wanted to share her story, but including the carousel scene into that story……. that was just a jab at cassie, and she did that purely to make her angry. Like there is no reason anyone can tell me for why she would’ve included that into the play, except to embarrass cassie and piss her off 🤷🏻 in conclusion: fuck season 2, season 1 is all that matters to me 😌

[@marshmallows394]

im so sorry but the fact that u just shit on lexi right after saying this season didn’t matter to u is so funny 💀

[@tannerv259]

@@marshmallows394 I like lexi 😂 I was just saying that for the people justifying the play, to me it was a nasty thing to do 🤷🏻😂

[@sallypellegrini7394]

The writers also pushed a lot of characters to the side in season 2. In season 1, every character felt special and important. They each had enough screen time for the audience to understand their actions and motives throughout the season. But in season 2, it almost felt as though everything was too centered around one thing or another. Cassie and Nate were the center of attention far too often, and it got to a certain point where scenes between them sometimes felt redundant. While all of this was happening, Kat would appear on the screen once in a while and just be like, “oh wow, Ethan sucks.” and then disappear again. She’s just one example of a tucked away character, too. There overall wasn’t much balance, which most certainly lowered the quality of season 2.

[@asmiragarcia]

TRIN YOUR OUTFIT LOOKS SO GOOOOOOD MY JAW DROPPED

[@sigmacry]

Everything else Cassie has done ha been really shitty, but I really don't get people acting like she was fully wrong for being pissed about the way she was portrayed in the play and calling Lexi out on it? Like, yeah she embarrassed Lexi by calling her out on stage but... Lexi also literally did exactly that with her play? She literally wrote a scene with her own sister on the merry-go-round horse saying "I just like to fuck everything" or whatever. Like, I'm sorry? Whether you think Cassie deserves to have her feelings hurt or not (she does) I definitely don't think that was the way to do it and I don't think she was wrong for being pissed. If my sister wrote shit like that about me and put it on in front of the entire school, I'd never fucking forgive her. That is such a break of trust. Lexi was literally worried about this happening and she did it anyway. Like she also essentially outed Nate, which as much as I FUCKING HATE HIM, it's never okay to out someone.

[@vivianaflowers5476]

Sam levinson mentioned that a lot of the episode is also the audience’s Interpretations of the play, I doubt she actually put “I just love fucking everything“ especially if she was so adamant about not making Cassie mad. Lexi’s character isn’t stupid, I think that’s how Cassie interpreted it in a state of anger and mania, it’s still an embarrassing scene but I don’t think the specific lines “I just love fucking everything” was actually put in the play. But I agree, it was irrelevant for her to put, and it’s still very fucked up

[@nicenicechannel72]

Elliot’s song was actually so fucking boring I want my 5 minutes back

[@nayaabshah1155]

No because I hit the skip forward button like it was nothing

[@davidhunt7454]

@@nayaabshah1155 AINT GOT THE TIME SIR :p

[@patriece2215]

Have the same energy when zendaya hop on it

[@kosbuns]

@@patriece2215 nah cuz Zendaya doesn't take 5 hours in the middle of the episode. also brydney is an unfortunate name to be stuck with, I'm sorry for you

[@patriece2215]

@@kosbuns she wrote the song and it was her idea so she definitely did. And ur talking big shit for somebody with no name lol it’s like u don’t even exist.