Low Carb Essentials - 'Vegetable Oils'

[@dianechilds1857]

My father farmed cotton. He used cottonseed oils and greases as lubricants and weed killers on the farm. He refused to feed the family margarine and oils. We used lard and butter throughout my childhood. I have never used seed oils or margarine.

[@gattonelcielo]

GREAT, clever dad. My mum have also refused margarine and light processed foods...grateful for that gift.

[@stephweissinger]

I only use Coconut and Avocado oils

[@Quran_eee]

@@stephweissinger olive and animal fats my lady

[@TimL1980]

It's hard to imagine for me how anyone could replace butter with margerine.... it must have been with heavy marketing (and probably the publication of that crooked margerine study from Finland!?)

[@Leo-eb1wl]

@@stephweissinger coconut oil has its own problems unfortunately, plants have a type of cholesterol that doesn’t do great things in our body, although better than seed oils, coconut is still an issue.

[@chapter4444]

This information should be foundational to anyone trying to get healthy and prevent / reverse disease

[@eutectoid1]

Well that puts the nail in the coffin of fast food outlets - not that I was ever a proponent of the golden arches by any stretch of the imagination. Threw out any seed oils in the pantry some time ago - obviously the best thing I ever did - apart from adopting carnivore diet.

[@aliendroneservices6621]

No, because fast-food doesn't require seed oils.

[@EarmuffHugger]

Back in the day they fried in lard...just sayin.

[@nioxic77]

a lot of normal restaurants also cook using vegetable oils

[@Danielle_1234]

Popeyes Chicken uses lard, but I believe they are the last large fast food chain to not use seed oils.

[@johnsheehy4192]

When I threw out the remaining seed oils in my cabinets about a decade ago, I found that they were etching holes in the plastic bottles, at the oil/air boundary!

[@MEN101]

Most of the supermarkets products have vegetable oils and most restaurants use them to cook. Always ask!

[@aliendroneservices6621]

Do not ask. No one who works at a restaurant has any idea what goes into the food, and any restaurant which is in business is going to be using seed oils. If you volunteered to eat at any restaurant, you signed up to consume seed oils.

[@louiea4276]

For the time being, you're better off cooking your own meals. These oils are so commonly used and widespread worldwide that it's virtually impossible to avoid them. Cook for yourselves, people!

[@JanPLopez993]

Do not eat those ptoducts and avoid those restaurants.

[@Danielle_1234]

I'm highly allergic, like go to the hospital allergic to soybean oil. When I eat out, which I admit is rare, I do not ask them if they use vegetable oil, because waiters lie. Instead I ask them what oil they use, so they have to go and actually look at it. High end restaurants like steak houses, sushi, Italian food (no not Olive Garden), and similar typically do not cut corners and use butter and olive oil.

[@YTStopCensoringFreedomOfspeech]

@@Danielle_1234 I used to think so. But olive oil in North America from testing had been found to also contain seed oil. They are diluting the olive oil with a cheaper oils. Resturants also like vegetable oils because it's cheaper for costs. They might lie and just tell you what you want to hear. Majority of the population still doesn't think there's any harm in them. As usual, humanity is doomed due to greed and selfishness. This is the same mindset from the top to the bottom of society. Nature never had anything bad for us by design, we humans have done all the damage ourselves.

[@Yukon33]

Chris Knobbe forever opened my eyes on this topic in his 2019 omega 6 apocalypse video... SUCH an important issue!!! Glad to see this compilation!

[@rythmicwarrior]

There goes peanut butter for me! 🤷‍♂️

[@njsongwriter]

@@rythmicwarrior Why?

[@ZebraLemur]

Chris knobbe is the best

[@defdaz]

@@njsongwriter High levels of omega 6 in them.

[@Norman_Gunstan1]

This compilation of vegetable oils was a great idea! More please on other topics 😅

[@cobbleup]

Thanks to all concerned with producing this life saving production.❤

[@vas4739]

Fantastic selection of speakers!

[@paulcallicoat7597]

Share this with everyone you care about. Many are dying from cancers and heart disease and obesity that might just live a lot longer if they get this information or at the least will have less pain and suffering.

[@JasonActualization]

I agree man! Let's save the world from seed oils!

[@markstivers3383]

Thanks for covering this essential topic: modern disease is self-inflicted (although unwittingly) and disseminating accurate information will help people make informed & appropriate choices. Perhaps eventually it will influence changes in the industry, if not legislation. Kudos

[@DRourk]

The average person who consumes this poison does so not knowing they are poison. Those at the top who pushed this poison on the public did not do so unknowingly. They knew exactly what they were doing. Just as they know that Fluoride is poison yet they pump it into water supplies everywhere. Just as they know that aluminum and mercury are neurotoxins yet they are commonly used as adjuvants in vaccines.

[@bcarnivomad2169]

Unfortunately i think the industry's are making too much money to even consider changing. They are in fact working on attacking the low carb high fat community.

[@JanPLopez993]

Yes! Also, as patrons demand so!

[@leslietomlinson9038]

Has anyone studied the carbon footprint of processing and delivering all these seed oils instead of saturated fats? The economics of this would be interesting to explore.

[@rahzoriel2103]

There's a reason these same people you want to push to study it are instead focused on the incredible amounts of methane a cow farts, instead.

[@mceliniak]

​@@rahzoriel2103"It's not the cow, it's how" (TED talk).

[@AdamMansbridge]

​@@rahzoriel2103 it's not cow farts. Humans who eat beans fart methane. Cows and all other ruminants ferment the fibre they eat in their first stomach and bring it back to their mouths regularly to chew it more. It's the fermentation that makes the methane and it comes out their mouths Incidentally if the grass rots instead of being eaten, it rots and makes methane If another ruminant replaces the cows, more methane If we replace cows with trees most of the trees won't make it, because most cows live on marginal land, but when those trees drop their leaves they will rot and release methane The good thing about cows is we can treat them to further process the methane all the way to CO2. A recent method is by feeding them seaweed

[@ActivateMission2ThisTimeline]

​@@rahzoriel2103Cattle are regenerative soil producers.

[@FlamingBasketballClub]

Dr. Mazafarian is definitely paid for by the vegetable oil industry. Glad to hear the audience laughing at him.

[@nancyquerengesser]

I am very grateful for your work in putting these seed oil segments together. They are great for sharing with friends and family. I just hope they will take the time to listen carefully

[@rjreddenbaker4351]

Solid and comprehensive video. All the presenters were top notch.

[@bagamias-hula]

Loved the data. Appreciate the panel where the proponent could state his case as well

[@issen2291]

The person advocating for seed oils didn't seem to make any comments about how they are affected by heat (so, when used for cooking). That's one of the main problem with unsaturated fats and I was very surprised to see him not even touch on the subject. I was even more surprised by the fact that none of the people arguing against his position brought it up either.

[@luciavasile2895]

Nina, you are awesome lady😘. I watch dr. Berry D Ken a lot on youtube. And learn from him how to stay healthy by eating PROPER HUMAN DIET / OMAD FASTING. The only thing i feel bad about ut is that i din't know about your videos and dr. Berry videos in till i almost died back in july of 2022 from priscriptions and nasty carbs and sugary american crap diet that i was doing fallow the stupid guidelines. With all those unhealthy oils that AHA and ADA was saying that it good for us🤮🤮🤮. It took me 51 years to realyise that stupid low fat and fat free yougurts,and whole grain bread that i use to eat was actualy poison my body. I thank God he help me after 51 years to find you Nina, and dr. Berry on youtube. I actualy saw your podcast with dr. Berry. That was an excelent podcast. God bless you both,and God bless your families too🙏🙏🙏 To make profit of billons of $'s over human health for over 50 years?... that is wrong😡 Sad but true😭😭😭

[@thendecoach]

Great! More please from all the main topics!!! Awesome 🎉🎉

[@birgitk6518]

My boyfriend is from India and he said that in India everybody thinks that sunflower oil is healthy and they advertise it as such. Yeah I have told him a lot about these toxic oils and in our house cant find oil like that. I am like, omg in India you have such amazing things like ghee and coconut oil. I really dont undesrstand how the all world has gone along whit this madness :(

[@mele2904]

It's subsidized and cheap.

[@TimL1980]

soothing to learn that in other households there are misinformed parties as well (though my gf doesn't use sunflower oil or margerine.... that'd be a bit much.... but I can't get her to stop eating breadrolls!)😂

[@rajeevdsamuel]

Tell him to switch back to ghee and coconut oil and the seed oils are basically varnish.

[@maricamaas2326]

Apparently there is cold-pressed sunflower oil, however had not seen it anywhere yet.

[@DeviatingVapors]

@@rajeevdsamuel being a fine-art professional oil painter way way back in the 1980-90s, linseed oil was used a lot to control the look of the paint. eating it. is a relatively new thing. surprisingly (didn’t know there was this link in art school) in food realms they call it flaxseed now. rancidity is a significant problem in digestible products, and .. actually I would like to delve into the flax seed itself*. at some point. as I used to grind the fresh seeds to eat them in the late 1990s, helped me loose a whole pants size in a short amount of time (didn’t really need to lose weight), which I was surprised about. then had that new waist size for another 15 years until I started to explore A2 diary and grass-fed butters (2018), and .. similar to 1999 era .. w/o trying lost another pant size. in both cases, that was a single variable tweak. that caused lasting change. fresh fresh fresh definitely wins over processed anything. place it in a package .. and. all bets are off due to storage, date stamps, etc. avocado oil is next on my list to try. omega-9 in that one. done years of unfiltered organic olive oil testing. no harmful qualities I can detect. [yet]. ancient cultures isolated it for use in lamps, not sure when it was first used culinarily .. but that has the longest track record for an oil in my books. I also buy it in the smallest size I can. to ensure it resides the least amount of time in a dark place. *in my flaxseed days (gave that up after more testing in 2019-2021) I would notice them being discarded whole in my stool. which. makes me question the validity at all of a human consuming them. all seeds are designed by -The Godz, to not be consumed. slippery. aerodynamic shape. tough covering (often poisonous, like almonds or apple seeds) but. to survive the stomach acid. the intestines. and. come out unscathed. hmmm. similar findings to corn in the distant past. is this a n=1 phenomena. maybe. doesn’t really matter. my body didn’t digest it. unless it was chewed up properly or ground. okay. but. if my body didn’t consume it as-is. why did I spend money to buy it. is always a question I have for myself. always loved eating sunflower seeds as a kid. but. turned out it was giving me stinky flatulent episodes, so I gave that up as a teenager. I wish manufacturing would give up on using it. I avoid all products that contain it. since 2019 to now. and. feel better because of it. pushed the limits of coconut milk, coconut cream .. and found that made me feel like crap. being concerned with blood markers, CVD, strokes .. only. has blinded the planet to what it is doing to health overall, and .. it would seem clear that Nina has isolated the historical cooking fats as being vastly superior. shame there ain’t any vegetables that press into an oil. olive. and avocado. those are both the fruiting body of a tree. so .. fruit that has a high fat component. very interesting. not sure what the coconut falls into, but the tropical folks seem to be vibrant and doing alright with fresh coconut milk, etc. seed oils in a LFHC diet seem to correlate to stunted growth, as well as dementia in a few papers that got published recently. so. yeah. just looking at coronary issues is a bit mis-guided.

[@alexakalennon]

Awesome compilation, thanks so much for your constant effort. I'm asking myself, why should I trust anyone today (nutritionally,or health wise ), when they already lied back then with flawed or no data. Oh wait, there was data, but I was being misused.

[@alanwhitham4]

If it's processed don't eat it . The food corporations doing the processing are funding the research .

[@varianbohling251]

The guy advocating for seed oils is making some ridiculous comparisons. You squeeze an olive or an avocado you’ll get oil, they’re STABLE fats. You churn cream you get butter. The idea that soybean processing is equivalent is just absurd. From a soybean to ranch dressing involves an industrialized process such as hydrogenation which was mentioned.

[@defdaz]

Olive oil / avocado aren't stable since they're not 100% saturated...

[@JuditHerman]

Excellent idea to put these lectures into a compilation! So useful. Thank you. Could you perhaps give us a link to the original lectures?

[@OneTimWhatley]

Nina Teicholz - 'Vegetable Oils: The Unknown Story' kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2O4n4Korracf7s&ab_channel=LowCarbDownUnder Dr. Chris Knobbe - 'Diseases of Civilization: Are Seed Oil Excesses the Unifying Mechanism?' kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZyqn5mOja5-kK8&ab_channel=LowCarbDownUnder Dr. Paul Mason - 'Saturated fat is not dangerous' kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIa8kIZ6nd2Zas0&ab_channel=LowCarbDownUnder Panel Discussion - 'Appropriate Dietary Guidelines for Improving Population Health' kzbin.info/www/bejne/mH-yk6J4ZZijqJo&ab_channel=LowCarbDownUnder Low Carb Denver 2019 - Q&A Day 1 Afternoon Session kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmfHc55-np6Mea8&ab_channel=LowCarbDownUnder Dr. Paul Mason - 'Are you smarter than a Doctor? What your doctor doesn't know about nutrition' kzbin.info/www/bejne/qX_dY5qNprFjhMk&ab_channel=LowCarbDownUnder

[@JanPLopez993]

Do a search on the Low Carb Down Under channel.

[@MsSarahkey]

The sad thing for many of us is that most restaurants (and fast food outlets) cook in vegetable oil because its cheap. As the public, we simply can't storm into their kitchens to see what they're frying in, so we have to swallow deep and passively accept there's a good chance that that expensive meal will be toxic. The only think going for 'change' is that the chefs/cooks and waiting staff may soon see that their own health is being undermined by the constant contact with the poisonous and carcinogenic aldehydes created when vegetable oils are heated.

[@1timbarrett]

A helpful compilation of LCDU highlights, kinda like watching replays of key moments in any sports match. Also a superb reminder that there is more than one way to communicate clearly in English. Well done to all speakers👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🙏🙏🙏👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@morski_ludak2239]

I ve never heard in my life about veggy oil. I am South EU i have only seen and used olive and sunflower oil. Gradually i ve dropped sunflower oil, cuz it game me stomach ache. Now i consume olive oil for sallads and home made butter for cooking with meat.

[@debramoore1428]

Surprised that seed oil guy around 1hr mark got out alive with that crowd. What a maroon.

[@hazelfox5613]

Thank you for this compilation of such interesting information

[@angiej8462]

This is so important, yet our governments are pushing the wrong advice

[@louiea4276]

Why has the government never been sued for this??? If people can come together to sue tobacco companies for their misleading ads, we should be able to do the same for this!

[@kateaye3506]

I have been asking myself this for two years. Until there are RCTs on the superiority of animal fats over seed oils, we cannot do much.

[@hektor6766]

You live in a democracy, but blame and want to sue "the government", the government granted to the people by the Constitution, instead of the corporations like P&G who did this, and influenced YOUR government, who DID expose Big Tobacco, to concede and follow. Then conservatives want to make YOUR government smaller and weaker-to bring it further under the influence, even total control of these multi-billion dollar corporations. Realize who your enemies are!

[@odysseycrickethockey2109]

The government and entities involved with decision-making and societal guidance are too much in control to be challenged. Much to the detriment of us all.

[@JanPLopez993]

I agree!

[@LouCadle]

The why not is a principle of law called "sovereign immunity." But in the US you could sue the American Heart Association or American Diabetes Association or your doctor who said that to you, but you'd have to show personal harm to you. (You don't have standing to sue if you're just irked. You have to have suffered actual harm, personally, that is measurable and demonstrable.) If you're LC, your health is probably good, so you'll have no standing to sue. If you were diabetic for 25 years and reversed it, you might be able to sue them for the cost of drugs you took over those 25 years, and if you lost a foot from T2D, you might be able to get a good deal of money for that. What we found with the McDonald's law suit about targeting children and making them fat, though, is that juries don't buy it. "You decide what you put into your mouth, and no one is force-feeding you McDonald's" is what the typical juror feels, so those lawsuits have failed thus far. So I suspect suing the ADA is going to be a hard case to win in 2022. Maybe in 10 years...

[@НадіяКуцій-п7в]

I really liked this video a lot!

[@castorphan]

Just curious, is this is a new video, or a re-upload? It looks very familiar. Or perhaps, we've seen ALL of Nina's content. =) edit: nevermind, this is compilation video. Good stuff!

[@brucemaher7621]

I have watched this over three times now always find it fascinating.... The word need to get out there so keep repeating This... I think this is for the newbies...

[@marjon888]

All seed oils gone from my cupboards.

[@dbiedler]

Thank you.

[@Bob.W.]

Ok, the debate moderated by Ivor between Taubes and the other guy (name?) is somewhat troubling. Are there benefits to using seed oils? The guy defending them seems to directly contradict the others. Seems confusing. I'm sticking with butter.

[@kateaye3506]

The most energised I've seen Gary Taubes. He obviously is anti seed oil, thankfully.

[@jeffreypua1981]

That is Dr Dariush Mozaffarian as an fyi a cardiologist professor of medicine at Tufts and dean and doctorate from the harvard school of public health 450 papers published and advisor on public health to the White House so you can see potentially some conflicts of interest

[@Structuredrelaxation]

@@kateaye3506 that's exactly what I thought! He normally is totally chilled and almost exploded when he heard that guy talking nonsense. 😅

[@martinmohr3538]

"The other guy" is Dariush Mozaffarian. He's pretty much in the industry camp, but has been in several low carb debates and, I see, in this compilation video. He's not what I would call a low-carb advocate. That's most likely what energised Gary Taubes.

[@nswhorse]

He straight up lied about there being zero evidence of harm. Presumably because it is in his professional interest to do so. It's not the first time I've witnessed a seed oil advocate make that claim. Either it's an organised thing, or they really are somehow oblivious to the reams of clinical evidence, coupled with biochemical understanding of the mechanisms, of significant harm. I.e. we know they hurt us, and we know how. Notice he nowhere bothered to even touch the biochemistry, just fell back on epidemiological evidence that favoured his position. I recommend watching any of the videos where Bart Kay describes the problems with epidemiological studies in human nutrition.

[@zazaiwon87]

Butter is a fantastic food. And seeds and their oils are unhealthy. Don't know what that guy was talking about

[@getalonghome]

What a lie this guy defending seed oils told, that butter is a lot like seed oils. You SHAKE CREAM to get butter. That's it. You have to go through quite a process to make oils from seeds edible. And he conflates seed oils with fruit oils, which are fairly easy to obtain and clean-smelling and -tasting without needing machine processing.

[@LouCadle]

Also, I'd point out, cream just rises/floats, a matter of physics, not of processing. So if his problem in minor processing via shaking, okay, I'd agree, it'd be better to just drink 2 cups of cream daily. He'd get purple over that, no doubt. lol. Yeah, it's like the difference between cutting up a carrot, which is in fact processing it in a minor way, and juicing it, adding oils and HFCS, and turning it into a "fruit leather" They are both "processing" but it's night and day.

[@FlamingBasketballClub]

Wise Traditions Podcast has done several episodes on vegetable oils (aka seed oils). The most recent one was episode 425.

[@thefinnisher6517]

Im sure the 26 grams of soybean oil im meant to eat every day is great for any industrial machine just maybe not us

[@kateaye3506]

DEFINITELY not us.

[@JasonActualization]

@@kateaye3506 These oils are plaguing mankind and on the macro, virtually no one even realizes this.

[@rawmilkmike]

We are constantly conflating heart disease and heart attack. How often can you prove that a heart attack was caused by heart disease. Heart disease is just blockages. Many people have heart attacks with no blockages whatsoever. Coronary artery spasm occurs most commonly in people who smoke... It may occur without cause, or it may be triggered by: Alcohol withdrawal. Emotional stress.

[@grubbetuchus]

Telling the history of bad science is essential to having any chance to convince the brainwashed masses.

[@malvanlondon8683]

I've heard these interesting lectures before. But are there any new reliable studies and data on this to further the debate? The more evidence we have (one way or the other) the better.

[@johnsmith-fr3sx]

The debate panelist on the left is a total clown. There is zero similarity between butter production and "vegetable" oil production. The former amounts to mechanical agitation of cow milk, while the latter is an industrial chemistry process involving high temperature processing, use of solvents such as hexane and which results in secondary formation of aldehyde products. Industrial seed oils are not food. They are mitochondrial poisons. Butter is a natural food and has been proven to be beneficial for health. If someone is going to pimp a diet that avoids animal products, then they should exert some honesty and intellectual effort and suggest coconut or palm oil.

[@defeqel6537]

I actually agree with him in some sense, not in production being similar, but rather in that, if the standard is "what we evolved eating" then butter, or cow milk in general, does not really fit that. We need to have the same standards across the board.

[@wmp3346]

Nina's favorite topic

[@standom2390]

Prescribe a life-long canola oil supplement to the guy on the left.

[@moiragoldsmith7052]

Rufolf Diesal 1892...first used seed oil/ peanut oil as fuel for vehicles....the food industry just wanted to make money so convinced humans to consume it.

[@ketocajun7451]

Killing in the name of $$$$$$$

[@laaradee]

I remember a girl in elementary school-who took ‘lard’ sandwiches to school. Looked white like crisco! At the time-it was yuk to me- now as I eat more carnivore- I understand-

[@jholeify]

That guy in blue is a total snake oil salesman.

[@thalesnemo2841]

Hell yes!

[@lawrence-juniornalty]

More like a seed oil salesman *ba dum tish*

[@JanPLopez993]

Yes! Why is he there? Bad Comic?

[@mathewmathew08]

Dr. Mazafarian, Did he get vegetable oil manufacturer money on his opinion? can any know any information sharing with us here?

[@fjanssensen1081]

What does he mean 'no evidence for harm' ??? Lmao. Why did no one tackle him for that statement?

[@sean2val]

very informative thank you

[@wocket42]

31:09 avocado oil with 13:1 w6:w3 is misleading. Avocado oil practically has no PUFAs, so the ratio doesn't matter. Data suggests the total amount of linoleic acid intake might be more important/detrimental than the ratio. As long as you have direct intake of DHA, EPA and AA.

[@Yukon33]

. I fully agree it is a nuance to be aware of... Ratios are still very useful when people start claiming Food X has ## amount of nutrient Y, but forget to mention at what cost, e.g. consuming oranges for vitamin C, but at the cost of so much carbs it's not worth it... It seems we cannot consume more o3 to offset o6 effects in the end either, since too much PUFA of any kind seem to cause elevated fat peroxidation (for the purpose of metabolic health ratios being maintained). . Based on what the estimated intake would've been before seed oils came into being, if I remember correctly from the couple people I remember discussing this, it would have been about 2-3g/day of o6 (as part of a 5-6g/day of total linoleic acid intake for a 2k calorie diet) --- with non-grain fed animal sources... Consuming o6 from any type of oil seems like a waste when you can't avoid it from other high fat food items like pork meat or egg yolks, and already busting that theoretical o6 budget on these alone...

[@multitablez]

Well, Avocado oil oxidizes in a bad, bad way. Especially with cooking, despite it having a high smoke point. Even if you have the best avocado oil - it can be very toxic if cooking with it. By itself, should be OK if its good stuff.

[@bevballyk9967]

Would fat from sardines in a can, and from butter be considered fresh? Or does the fat need to be freshly killed fish, and from milk?

[@Danielle_1234]

Butter is a saturated fat, so it's not an issue.

[@PakistanIcecream000]

Vegetable oils is a misnomer.

[@davidnannalockwood3133]

I am interested in seeing the LA veterans study, but I can't find a link to it?

[@Ceciliaseg64]

Poor rodents! No wonder why they drop like flies when they feed on your precious seeds. I did a little experiment by caging them (wild males singly and young females in groups) I avoid feeding them bird seeds and not only did they maintain their youthful look but died unusually later in life. some have lived longer than 2 years.

[@i.ehrenfest349]

One piece of old research the anti-coconut oil nutritionists often rely on utilised, get this, HYDROGENATED coconut oil. So first they denatured the oil and made it unhealthy, and then they concluded that coconut oil was dangerous.

[@anthonykennedy5324]

I am 76 years old and, probably, of average intelligence. How do I live longer as a healthy person ? That's why I'm here. I believe , for the individual, the dangerous fallacy is reductionism i.e. to reduce an issue to one number (BP say) or the amount of one particular food type. Health is certainly about food-but much, much more. That said, a low sugar, high natural fat/meat diet is an experiment I'm prepared to perform on myself. I will never know how successful it will be. Why not just start with the obvious question? Why are so many people today so fat-even the children? Notice that those well-informed people are not fat. To them, I suspect, fat would signal failure and a poor advertisement of their strongly-held beliefs on nutrition.

[@abejaamarilla4961]

Ojalá muchos de habla hispana pasarán esta i formación a la familia.

[@petet968]

Marketing will always beat science. Science needs to change it's game. Fight dirty like they do.

[@LouCadle]

then it's no longer science.

[@defdaz]

Great video, bit annoying how the two parts from Dr Mason seem to contradict each other - the first says too much omega 6 is bad but the last clip says it's fine on low carb...

[@fellipedasilva99]

We are truly living in the worst timeline since this is a reality…

[@adelarsen9776]

Let's use virgin cotton seed oil. It's better on your salad that raw crude oil straight from the ground.

[@rajeevdsamuel]

American Heart Association: PUFA's (Linoleic/Lenolenic acid) are amazing anti-oxidants. Varnish Industry: PUFA's (Linoleic/Lenolenic acid) are amazing oxidants. 🤣🤣🤣

[@mattwall563]

Rapeseed oil and canola oil are the same thing. Saw on one of the charts rapeseed had most omega-6 and conola oil had the least.

[@aliendroneservices6621]

31:08 It says grapeseed oil has the highest n6:n3 ratio.

[@thehorseyourodeinon2041]

Whoever this Dari dude is, he is disingenuous. He's trying to compare olive, coconut, and palm oils - which are rarely used in the SAD - with butter. "Pressing" olives for oil might not be that different from "churning" milk to make butter. However, the vast majority of oils in our food system come from seeds, which are extremely processed.

[@LouCadle]

The argument I'd have made in return is "butter fat rises" (I doubt this guy has ever been on a farm and knows that, lol). Ergo, it is natural and unprocessed and therefore he's arguing that drinking pure cream, a couple of cups per day, is perfectly fine. And I'd say "I agree with you there" and enjoy his sputtering.

[@thepersonisone]

Have ultimate carbs to get the leanest and healthy you can be

[@cedricmayfield7058]

Carbs aren’t essential at all

[@unreasonable4rce]

I accept Omega 6 oils from seed oils are dangerous but how about Omega 6 oils consumed when eating something like walnuts? Still the same danger? As they are unlikely to be oxidised and highly processed are they any safer? If so, how much safer? What would be a safe amount to consume daily?

[@defdaz]

Same danger - they'll oxidise in the body + the usage of them over omega 3 causes big problems (watch the Dr Mason clip at 26 minutes again). We only need a couple grams a day, but consume 30g or more.

[@vicentepbsaraiva]

Great!

[@Gengh13]

Also watch the latest presentation from Dr. Chris Knobbe where he shows the correlation between seed oils and sugar consumption with obesity in a lot of countries: kzbin.info/www/bejne/inTcqXV5iaqFjsk

[@paulhelman3654]

It was "truth or Consequences" Jack was the mystery walking man. This makes it even more ironic.

[@kassrripples3659]

I purchased some supplemental capsules and these contain commonly known plant seed oils like sunflower… these are supposed to be health producing … should I not take these ? These are from an essential oil brand and are labelled as xEO Mega.

[@Danielle_1234]

Why would you do that when you can go order a burger from a fast food restaurant and get the same intake of seed oils.

[@nootri]

I think you need a second look at the ingredients. Also, extra-virgin sunflower oil especially at capsule dose is not gonna harm you.

[@Olivia-W]

Sunflower oil is a seed oil like those discussed here. If you really want to supplement, look for laboratory certified (like IFOS) DHA/EPA fish oils.

[@linz716]

@kassrripples3639 I used to supplement, but after listening to these enlightened videos, I eat sardines and wild caught salmon a few times a week, so there's no need to pop any extra supplements.

[@bnlcoops]

So is olive oil counted as a seed oil and should be eliminated from the diet?

[@-htl-]

No evidence if seatbelts work? Which planet is his guy from?

[@gilbert4556]

The dishonest nature of the dude at 50 minute mark

[@HappybyChoice]

I’m guessing the guy on far left is in the pockets of the seed oil industry. JMO

[@Krzysztof_Kwiatkowski]

👍Pozdrawiam😀

[@jobrown8146]

_Translation_ - Greetings

[@patrycja2696]

Ja rowniez

[@acampandordacampandord2086]

Then. Which oil can we use?

[@guus2072]

Grass fed beef drippings? Or any source of animal fat. If you're vegetarian, use butter or ghee? If you're vegan use high quality pure extra virgin olive oil. Your poison is all in the dose ... You don't need to worry much if you eat a wholefood diet and do not eat anything that's deep fried.

[@Danielle_1234]

Look @38:45 in the video for a list of healthy vs unhealthy. Omega-6 in general you want to minimize.

[@LouCadle]

use lard, tallow, or clarified butter to cook in. If you want to dress a salad, try a squeeze of lemon juice. (or salsa, or a dollop of sour cream or plain Greek yogurt, or nothing.) You can make mayonnaise from animal fats, but it's a hassle, I admit, and you need to consume it within 5 days and remember to set it on the counter 2 hours before eating, or it's solid like butter in the fridge. Duck fat makes a little less solid of a mayo.

[@NoFapKing]

Lard Tallow Butter

[@salparadiso]

Who was the anti-butter guy? Butter is not extracted from cows. The cream floats to the top of the milk naturally, and is stirred briskly.

[@BossHogg805]

Seed oils are totally fine... Until you oxidize them by heating them up. No one uses these oils cold.

[@ianrichards6647]

They’re also processed at extremely high temperatures already

[@defdaz]

Even cold they're not. Watch the video.

[@SimonLloydGuitar]

Eat real food. Fast regularly. Exercise your body and mind. Rinse/repeat.

[@MZS22]

that person is insanely infuriating. you literally give him the trials and evidences that vegetable oils are highly processed and are not good and he replies with "well everything is processed and there isn't evidence" lmfao. definitely getting paid off by someone.

[@KirstiCheetahh]

Here in Europe it is sunflower oil. Terrible!

[@1timbarrett]

I am almost relieved that the sunflower seed harvest has been rubbish in my part of Europe this year! 🌻

[@Danielle_1234]

It's at least better for you than soybean oil which is what we get in the US, though obviously not much better.

[@njsongwriter]

Well if you fit them into the three categories of animal, vegetable or mineral; then they are vegetable oils. Vegetable in this case means plant based. One of the definitions of the word "vegetable" is: "derived from plants". Therefore they are in fact vegetable oils.

[@PakistanIcecream000]

South Asians consume a lot of vegetable oil unfortunately.

[@fat8646]

I agree, thats why a lot of asian got so many diseases. In Thailand, we used a lot of lard and coconut milk, which is still high in saturated fat for the cooking, but now all the western are used here.

[@standom2390]

Again, the guy on the left, mr. Naylor, is coming from “Thank You For Smoking” novel. The same style of rhetoric, obscuring and whitewashing things that belong to garbage.

[@cormchm2853]

@47:35 The guy in the middle gets it wrong when he is reporting on epidemiological studies - a very very basic error - epidemiology 101 level error. He gets corrected gently by Gary, and then does the standard passive agressive reply. That guy should not be involved in the hosting of scientific discussions if he will not honestly admit a mistake.

[@charlestoast4051]

Spot the processed food industry shill! They should have asked him what he eats.

[@davidmcelwain6325]

Just find out where their money comes from and you will know what they believe. Everyone wants to be green.$$$$$$$$

[@___xyz___]

53:36 let the man speak god damnit he has a point! wtf I'm not in this for the low carb or animal fat, I'm in it for the truth...

[@defdaz]

He wasn't telling the truth, hence the interruptions... he's a bought man, towing the company line, Marie.

[@defeqel6537]

@@defdaz nevertheless, you should allow him to speak, and then refute the claims on your turn. If he starts making multiple points, it's up to the moderator to stop him and give the other side a chance to answer

[@greendeane1]

Our medical community is not.

[@gabes80]

Very good video. Disappointing to see someone who has publicly promoted conspiracy theories and anti-vaxx, still welcomed into the low carb community. These weirdos who went absolutely mad during Covid need to be disinvited from conferences.

[@picking4profit]

those "weirdos" are actually promoting the truth with detailed analysis to back things up. Science should always be debated due to the influence of big money involved with all pharmaceutical products being promoted. The world has been misled big time over the last century on a number of subjects, vegetable oils being one of them; there are many others. Keep an open mind otherwise you will be fooled

[@virginicaanderson1569]

Are you meaning Ivor Cummins? You are the perfect example of the people who shut down all discussion/ debate during the Covid outbreak and this " scientific " approach is still going on! Try to have an open mind and look at all the information! Can you really do it ?

[@weinerdad]

Do you mean Ivor and his Covid posts? He did have some disturbing things to say at the time. Overconfident and dismissive. Lost my interest in him, too.

[@fountainpen44]

Yeah, burn the witches.

[@Gengh13]

It's sad that you are uninformed on that subject but are aware of the dangers of seed oils, like every good sheep you must follow the public health advice and consume a diet high in "heart healthy" whole grains, "vegetable" oils, no animal products and get boosted every month. Or perhaps you recognize that public health advice is a disaster and Ivor has been calling out the BS for years. You don't have to believe him, just see the data he presents.

[@RobertaPeck]

Wow, meat and saturated fat keto pushers looking at studies supporting use of oils.

[@Olivia-W]

Uh. Did you even watch it? The entire video is about how seed oils are bad, and how animal fats (and maybe palm and coconut oil) are better.

[@davidcooper177]

HOW DO I KNOW THESE PEOPLE ARE HIRED BY SOME KIND OF FAT INDUSTRY TO PROMOTE THEIR IDEAS?

[@defdaz]

HOW ABOUT YOU LOOK INTO IT YOURSELF?

[@chopperdeath]

Great content but, umm, hard to listen umm, to.

[@defdaz]

Umm, no it, umm, wasn't.

[@andrewpizzino2514]

What’s so crazy to think oils are harmful. They’re plant based which means they have medicinal properties

[@petet968]

Oil that turrns rancid when it contacts the atmosphere would never be consumed by humans.

[@gregorywootton3870]

Hard to convince people they have been fooled.

[@SulthanMuhammad]

they do have medicinal properties, before they put them in giant factorial machine. boil them in extreme heat, bleach them and turn them into monstrous trans-fat. if you want a healthy plant oil, get them raw. eat those sunflower seeds directly or get them in extra virgin form

[@yamlwoz]

If you eat it straight from the plant I'd agree with you, but it's incredibly processed using harmful chemicals. For myself I choose to eat only totally unprocessed foods.

[@johnangelico667]

So is belladonna but I wouldn't recommend it for longevity

[@peggycearnach8034]

What a foolish idea that the process of extracting an oil is relevant. 🤷‍♀️🙄 biased off topic redirection. I can’t listen to that silliness - skipped.

[@Elexyr]

How so? The process requires high temperatures and pressures. This heavily oxidizes the oil, which in turn is terrible for our bodies. So, it's the process that makes it rancid, thus the process is relevant.

[@ianrichards6647]

Enjoy your seed oils 😂

[@defdaz]

@@Elexyr I'm assuming she mean irrelevant.