LOW $ JUNKYARD 4.8L TURBO-ALL THE BOOST!! 1200-HP, BIG BANG 4.8L

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Richard Holdener

Richard Holdener

4 жыл бұрын

TURBO LS, SBE 4.8L, boosted with Cheap E-BAY turbos, til it breaks! Behind the scenes of The original Big Bang LS Project. How much power will a stock (Gen 3) bottom end take? What worked. What didn't! What would I change to do it better? Can an SBE 4.8L make even more power with better prep, turbos and intercooler?

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@UncleTonysGarage
@UncleTonysGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, seriously...you've got the best gearhead channel on the Tube. That 4.8 is a trip
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 жыл бұрын
Gale and I don't agree on the boost gauge-my point was that the pistons and rods don't know what the boost is, only the cylinder pressure. The Boost gauge can be used with great success on relative changes, but I wish Gale all the best on selling the general public on his Fancy mass/density/temperature measurement!
@cjhill726
@cjhill726 4 жыл бұрын
Uncle Tony. I'm subbed to your channel. Really enjoy your content. I'm hear because of your videos. I seen where you where talking about this channel in one of your videos.
@cjhill726
@cjhill726 4 жыл бұрын
@@8SecSleeper maybe you should do it and post a video. Let me know when its up.
@garrettgilbreath1607
@garrettgilbreath1607 4 жыл бұрын
Build list?
@massiveretard176
@massiveretard176 4 жыл бұрын
He’s the papadakis of v8s
@richardmorrison6134
@richardmorrison6134 4 жыл бұрын
"If I did it again, I would change". DO IT AGAIN!!!
@kylesonsalla7620
@kylesonsalla7620 4 жыл бұрын
Easy to say when a magazine isn't paying to do it again.
@tylernewsome217
@tylernewsome217 4 жыл бұрын
Do another 4.8 and do all the things you wanted to change! Would love to see what a 4.8 is actually capable of!
@ftlboy717
@ftlboy717 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 2600lb car turbo 4.8 4l80e waiting on converter,I’ll be happy with 9s lol
@billybritt5334
@billybritt5334 Жыл бұрын
I really like the 4.8 you find the l20 2011 you get 305 pony from factory and I got the l20 for 600 with only 30.000 miles I pulled it myself a nice cam I'm probably pushing close to 400 pony
@billybritt5334
@billybritt5334 Жыл бұрын
@@ftlboy717 my cj 7 loves the l20 4.8 3100 lbs way way faster then the heavy amc 360
@mattmcdonald3659
@mattmcdonald3659 4 жыл бұрын
This original Hot Rod article and Sloppy Mechanics (Matt) inspired me to start my turbo project. Thanks Richard
@turbolq4
@turbolq4 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree!! Matt was a huge positive influence in my decision to boost my car.
@carlitosgy6
@carlitosgy6 3 жыл бұрын
This and sloppymechanics.com changed everything
@cardboardkiller6883
@cardboardkiller6883 2 жыл бұрын
@@hendo337 I hear ya. I still love my blue ovals but Chevys definitely has some good stuff. The Coyote 5.0 is still king of the V8 pile but affordability & availability for engine swaps makes it take a backseat to the bow tie LS motors for engine swaps. I absolutely love my 1994 mustang gt, I've had it since new and I'm finally ready to make the Cardinal sin of sticking a 6.0 LS in it....😱
@exploranator
@exploranator Жыл бұрын
@@cardboardkiller6883 If I was a supporter of Ford Pride, I would use DOHC engines all the time. Why don't they produce one that is a true big-big-big block?
@cardboardkiller6883
@cardboardkiller6883 Жыл бұрын
@K____ R____ if you look at the cost, you can buy 3 LS motors for what 1 coyote 5.0 costs. If you look at Ford's history, they have always been competitive with Chevy & Dodge and have always done it with less displacement. It's pretty impressive when you think about how a 5.0L engine can rival Chevy's legendary 6.2L LS motor. Which is why Ford doesn't make a big block version. Stock Mustang GTs are pushing nearly 500hp off the showroom floor. That and fleet displacement regulations along with emissions standards...
@Calvin-Nelson
@Calvin-Nelson 4 жыл бұрын
This is the one that started it all for my dad and I.
@BobTheStrangeMan
@BobTheStrangeMan 3 жыл бұрын
YO IM A HUGE FAN OF YOUR WORK ON THE 4.2!
@japmuscle
@japmuscle 4 жыл бұрын
Finally. This video and the follow up "big bang" videos are wayy overdue.
@itzdeerezboii
@itzdeerezboii 2 жыл бұрын
“That’s a LS cam. This is a LS motor. In it went!”
@stephanouellet3673
@stephanouellet3673 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your test and your time Richard, I appreciate a lot your tests on LS
@jesscneal
@jesscneal 4 жыл бұрын
I remember reading this article and being amazed. Thanks Richard for all your hard work and providing all this wonderful information
@darrylb5247
@darrylb5247 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like 2.5 HP per Cube is a RELIABLE LEVEL for your MODS! Whether 4.8L or 6.0L or anything in between! Great work!
@ChoatesCoatsandCustoms
@ChoatesCoatsandCustoms 4 жыл бұрын
This test was the test that got me into ls motors.. thank you for all your work!
@armedrepublic
@armedrepublic 4 жыл бұрын
Richard, I really appreciate all your videos and the information that you're sharing with everybody. Most of all I appreciate how humble you are. Thanks bro
@jacobfrolander698
@jacobfrolander698 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you for taking the time to speak about it. Lots of good ideas and tips
@codygullett4273
@codygullett4273 4 жыл бұрын
Keep the facts and stats coming! Great content. Seen one video and I've been binge watching them while i can
@jaydubb71
@jaydubb71 4 жыл бұрын
I remember this being in a magazine! I absolutely LOVE the LS!
@jaydubb71
@jaydubb71 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-ie4kp7ni9d LMAO! OK since you wanna be specific, LR4. BUT, all of them are LS engines, according to the aftermarket. Lol
@kswis
@kswis 4 жыл бұрын
Making my day with all this daily content... Thankyou
@regal105
@regal105 4 жыл бұрын
I loved reading that article, I’ve read it several times great writing, witty and humorous at times, just very interesting
@dnchevyguy3
@dnchevyguy3 4 жыл бұрын
Something I would really like to see: Take an NA, 7000+ rpm LS using the typical LS7 lifters that most people run and test running them at various plunger preloads from ~.020" all the way up to .180" or so with no changes other than the pushrod lengths. See if there is any power difference or if the curve falls off at earlier/later RPM with different amounts of preload.
@akassasin5768
@akassasin5768 Жыл бұрын
He tested this. Check for his pushrod length vid.
@jakesheppard9180
@jakesheppard9180 4 жыл бұрын
This is the most concise, informative and entertaining performance channel on KZbin
@LunarOutlawsGarage
@LunarOutlawsGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Great video I am building that TwinTurbo 6.0 in my 71 GS so I really dig anything that can be scaled up to that engine 👍 👍
@yolofullsend
@yolofullsend 4 жыл бұрын
I love your no bs approach!!
@dennisclanton5342
@dennisclanton5342 3 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy these vids and now that I got it connected to my big tv it's just that much better lol.But thank you for taking the time to undo to make these vids !!!
@frankdux138
@frankdux138 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your videos brotha really informational!!!!
@antonharvey2730
@antonharvey2730 4 жыл бұрын
These video's is a great help and eye opener.
@blakeperritt9016
@blakeperritt9016 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great video Richard!
@414Chevy
@414Chevy 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best, if not the best stock block Gen 3 test ever done!!!!!!
@martinmclain9861
@martinmclain9861 3 жыл бұрын
Junk motors ( the ones we ain't afraid of blowing that are made from junk) always perform the best when on a budget. Thier loose and have compressed every part that would of been loose if we cared and built it new. This bold has certainly inspired and old school to try the new school. Keep up the good work!
@ryanh9807
@ryanh9807 2 жыл бұрын
Love this channel. Will help me a lot with my Volvo 4.8L swap.
@scottworelds2933
@scottworelds2933 4 жыл бұрын
I remember getting the magazine back when this was new and was like OMG!
@jonathanparker5375
@jonathanparker5375 2 жыл бұрын
Holy Jesus. That’s a whole lotta powa. I will have to go with a build like this.
@rogergm92
@rogergm92 4 жыл бұрын
People using stock injectors or non-flow-matched injectors are the real problem
@sarahbaldwin8212
@sarahbaldwin8212 4 жыл бұрын
snake eater 1500 ftw on the cheap but not junk
@scottbankston3377
@scottbankston3377 4 жыл бұрын
My question would be with the date of the dino log were you able to go back and see if it was a back pressure problem running those two small turbos or did it wind up being something else or were you unable to check oh, great video keep it up
@mikecross659
@mikecross659 2 ай бұрын
I’m glad I picked the flow match. I’m just learning about the ls motors and was pricing out some new injectors to go with a cam my cousin is giving me that and they need to be replaced anyways.
@thirstquencher3203
@thirstquencher3203 3 жыл бұрын
Damn these 4.8s are AWESOME!!! BEST BUILD ON A BUDGET 😁😁
@jimhiscott2918
@jimhiscott2918 4 жыл бұрын
You say in your video "Let me know what you think" Well I think you know what your doing. Richard and Popodopolis are my two favorite engine builders. Richard keeping cost in mind and being more experimental is what I really enjoy in his videos
@zacharycope608
@zacharycope608 4 жыл бұрын
I had a 4.8 in my 2007 Silverado Regency rst , with cam and supercharged I loved that motor and it being a 5 speed truck was so fun
@donovanmoore4682
@donovanmoore4682 Жыл бұрын
After this video I'm saving it and going to build my 4.8 2001 gmc sierra that's my dream i don't want any other truck everyones been telling me it's no worth it but your video's Proves it in every way it is Totally worth it
@jcshobbiesandrecreation5873
@jcshobbiesandrecreation5873 3 жыл бұрын
Richard, Great channel. Not sure how I missed it up until now. You should do a budget, street friendly 302 SBF EFI turbo build for us fox body guys.
@thedude7726
@thedude7726 4 жыл бұрын
Your vidoes are amazing. Thanks man!!!!!
@southernslipping4225
@southernslipping4225 Жыл бұрын
This man is a genius on motors
@shitbox7413
@shitbox7413 4 жыл бұрын
The Big Bang 4.8 definitely needs to go back on the dyno. 👍🏻
@collinator68
@collinator68 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, I'll be happy with just 7.5lbs of boost on a 4.8 in my GMT400 swap.
@_clapped740i6
@_clapped740i6 2 жыл бұрын
I have a bone stock 4.8 and Ive been running 20 pounds thru it for 2 years and the motor still runs like brand new I’ve only ever had transmission problems even tho have a shitty 4l60 but I wanna rip that shit out and put a 4l80 in that bitch or a built one if I have enough money lol
@reyperez3424
@reyperez3424 2 жыл бұрын
@@_clapped740i6 What year 4.8 ? 04+ are different than 03-99
@chandannel
@chandannel 4 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up just for the Sherman and Peaboby reference. Thanks for the knowledge!
@jonthecomposer
@jonthecomposer 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow. As soon as I heard you say you'd thought it was a 5.3, I started getting suspicious. Then, when you said the power had hit 1,200+, I was like, "This is it." I'd read the article in HR several years ago and was floored. I love it when a reference to something you saw from years ago gets another "life" so-to-speak. This was one of those moments. Come to find out, I liked your stuff before I liked your stuff lol.
@titahibayflier3160
@titahibayflier3160 4 жыл бұрын
I' d personally love to see the 4.8 pushed futher in a future video. Bigger cams, bigger turbo, less back pressure more boost iced intercooler 1300-1400 +hp?
@plumbs7199
@plumbs7199 4 жыл бұрын
I learnt heaps ! Thanks !
@thehotrodstation3313
@thehotrodstation3313 4 жыл бұрын
"Use what ya got",,,,,, man after my heart. And I don't even go that way! Ahhhhhh hahahahha great channel. I've said it before no BS , no brag, just facts! Love it.......
@harisshuja6168
@harisshuja6168 4 жыл бұрын
4.8 big bang #2! Best channel on youtube!
@orangetruckman
@orangetruckman 4 жыл бұрын
I want to get a 4.8l and turbo it, but can’t decide weather to go twins or a single 🤔 your videos with a 4.8l is helping me greatly!! Thank you 😆
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 жыл бұрын
either works well
@kevinrudd4689
@kevinrudd4689 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. Thank you.
@dualdanman816
@dualdanman816 4 жыл бұрын
Your in the age of goodness and you are a god of hp..building a car during my off time for Martin us 131 drag way🤙😷
@dwstieler
@dwstieler 4 жыл бұрын
Get a larger map sensor. And keep turning up boost in the 6L. 👍
@ls4.8frank
@ls4.8frank 4 жыл бұрын
MAP or MAF???
@NightshiftCustom
@NightshiftCustom 4 жыл бұрын
@@dj4monie build it to take it !
@turbolq4
@turbolq4 4 жыл бұрын
@@ls4.8frank MAP. At these levels of boost most (all?) Guys are running a speed density setup which doesn't use a MAF sensor.
@anthonywebber2211
@anthonywebber2211 4 жыл бұрын
@@dj4monie Transmissions can be built too 🤦‍♂️
@MegaScott
@MegaScott 3 жыл бұрын
Cannot.....Stop......Watching! Both Steve's, Richard, a Westech Dyno ...What a combo. Who needs that other Magazine guy. lol
@frostback8160
@frostback8160 4 жыл бұрын
More 4.8 testing please great job.
@zkeyes4056
@zkeyes4056 2 жыл бұрын
Richard saying he did one ring gap and took the same amount off the rest Legendary!!
@thatcanadiancarguy1499
@thatcanadiancarguy1499 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you do this with a gen 4 4.8, I just picked one up myself from an 09 savanna and I have a feeling it’s going to love the boost.
@derrick_v
@derrick_v 4 жыл бұрын
Great information! Thanks.
@TheKevbo911
@TheKevbo911 4 жыл бұрын
O man this iconic classic
@hugieflhr03
@hugieflhr03 3 жыл бұрын
We need more of these big boost videos on stock engines. Just open the gap, use a good head gasket and let it rip!
@johnlewis8156
@johnlewis8156 4 жыл бұрын
I still have those magazines at my shop right now! I had just built a LS7 67 Camaro and I planned on doing a 4.8 turbo build In my wife's 240z. I never got around to it tho...
@jersyboyy
@jersyboyy 4 жыл бұрын
Awesomesauce...and the multiple motors I have blown up at 12psi IS on me lol but this new forged 6.0, 120lb injectors and bigger turbo is going to make that 1000 mark before I keep driving my jalopy across the US.
@dgsmith6682
@dgsmith6682 4 жыл бұрын
Subscribed. Awesome videos
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 жыл бұрын
thnx
@brianjacobsen5762
@brianjacobsen5762 3 жыл бұрын
To the way back machine Sherman.!
@erickleven1712
@erickleven1712 4 жыл бұрын
Run the 4.8 again, please! And then put it up against a similar-spec 4.6 3-valve! Keep it up, boss!!!
@calebnation7797
@calebnation7797 4 жыл бұрын
Boost also depends on the intake manifold(s), what turbo(s) size, etc. if you have a better flowing intake system, you’ll make the same power on less boost than a system with the same FI but a restrictive intake system. Example: I’m a miata guy. A popular setup is a GT2554R turbo @ 16psi. That’ll do about 225whp with 3” intake piping and 2.75 or 3” exhaust. The other popular system is a GT2560, which is a little bigger turbo, @ 13psi. With the same 3” intake/exhaust and the same size intercooler, the 2560 does 250whp@13psi.
@stevemacdaddy9909
@stevemacdaddy9909 10 ай бұрын
What did we learn? We learned i want one in a little car at only 1000hp. Great information
@brandonpittman5243
@brandonpittman5243 3 жыл бұрын
Sherman and Peabody man you just took me back lol
@gsxrred1000
@gsxrred1000 4 жыл бұрын
I think you should do test again but at this point with everything we know that works well. Large ring gaps , e85 or m1 , Bosch 210s or bigger , 5 bar map and giant turbos 88s or so. Only thing to find out out than is when rods decide to say peek a boo. No limits on boost or fuel.
@thatturbotruck
@thatturbotruck 4 жыл бұрын
The real killer is ignition timing and people trying to push 91 pump gas to that level. I know because I've pushed them on 91 until they broke. Now I use water methanol and I'm thinking of moving to e85 and meth injection on the next setup. I would definitely like to see a fuel vs ignition timing curve for a boosted 4.8/5.3 in a dyno video.
@spaghetts
@spaghetts 4 жыл бұрын
There are two channels I watch for pure unbiased information. #1 is Richard Holdener, #2 is Project Farm
@joebutterfield4143
@joebutterfield4143 4 жыл бұрын
Great videos, I'd like to see the same kind of testing done on a 6.1 hemi
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 жыл бұрын
I did one on a 5.7L that made over 1000 hp
@gtojoe8990
@gtojoe8990 4 жыл бұрын
We need to see a video about each of the motors!
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 жыл бұрын
I might just do that-I have video of the 6.0L motors
@codygullett4273
@codygullett4273 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to you now i can't wait to try a 6.0 destroked in my xj when the 4.0 goes!! Might have to hit it with a hammer and nitrous to speed the process up 🤣🤣
@nfwsrt8zl12
@nfwsrt8zl12 4 жыл бұрын
I know now what i am going to do for my Colorado Xtreme
@melkerpersson3323
@melkerpersson3323 4 ай бұрын
Very intresting 🙏
@02badfnz
@02badfnz 4 жыл бұрын
God damn that’s neat
@blockequals4
@blockequals4 4 жыл бұрын
Big fan of these videos, and I’d live to see more. Given your testing this far, what is a sustainable power level for these sbe engines?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 жыл бұрын
lots of guys running at 1000 hp
@jminnick5878
@jminnick5878 4 жыл бұрын
Richard Holdener im not a ford guy but i want to see a big bang 7.3 Godzilla!
@Turbo_Todd
@Turbo_Todd 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a SBE gen4 5.3/799 head with just ring gap, studs, cam and spring upgrades taken to 29 psi
@Hemihart
@Hemihart 4 жыл бұрын
Calling people out on their crap, I love it lol
@elvynortiz3456
@elvynortiz3456 4 жыл бұрын
23 pnds is the right point 1077 hp can move everything u swap in to to be a 4.8 ls and push this power is a good choice thank u for this video
@stuartcookie133
@stuartcookie133 4 жыл бұрын
The only good thing about the HIV-19 is I found this channel!!!
@mikechalmers6
@mikechalmers6 4 жыл бұрын
Richard - please pan out a bit further so we can see the cot and shaving station you keep by the dyno 😁
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 жыл бұрын
can't show all my secrets
@exploranator
@exploranator Жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 An an inventor, I can feel that.
@andriosz
@andriosz 4 жыл бұрын
All these videos make me want to swap in LS :) I've seen mod 4.6, any plans to turbo an old mopar magnum? I wonder how they take the boost :)
@LandonRoy-cv9rt
@LandonRoy-cv9rt 4 жыл бұрын
Richard Holdener LITERALLY PROVING THE INTETNET LS CLAIMS WRONG! The diffrence between Richard and all "the other guys" is experince and he shows you first hand dyno information so. You know everything is real and true.Hands down best engine channel
@ericflower9855
@ericflower9855 4 жыл бұрын
I think more guys will relate to the smaller ls motors videos...I love my 4.8...it's kind of like my badge of honor to say O it's just a 294ci 4.8 ...I would love to see some of the same size turbo's with different exhaust AR housing on the 4.8 or 5.3 how much of a difference will that make...keep them video's coming
@NightshiftCustom
@NightshiftCustom 4 жыл бұрын
@@dj4monie 6.0L sounds so much bigger!
@cambilt1683
@cambilt1683 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Love my “little” 4.8
@the_methstang
@the_methstang 4 жыл бұрын
Methanol fuel, ice water in the intercooler, stage 3 or 4 ljms turbo cam, properly sized turbos, 4 bar map sensor. Timing in the single digits before 5800, spin it up to 7k, make power
@cc23001
@cc23001 4 жыл бұрын
Lol we don't know how much these bottom ends will take.. That's why we're watching!
@danielpassafiume7462
@danielpassafiume7462 Жыл бұрын
Love your channel man ! Thanks for all the great info ! Im currently building a drop in motor to replace my current turbo 4.8, which pistons would you reccomend if you did it all over ?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
we used stock ones-lots of good forged pistons out there
@douglaslambert579
@douglaslambert579 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, might have to put one of these in my ‘63 Chevy ll.
@gboss1360
@gboss1360 4 жыл бұрын
Could we please see the SBE 4.8 tested with a Holley high ram intake and cam swap. Also see the result for a single and twin turbo application using the Holley high ram intake on the SBE 4.8. Thank you for your time. Great videos.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 жыл бұрын
the hi ram makes less power than the fast on the 4.8l
@michaelprochaska9755
@michaelprochaska9755 4 жыл бұрын
You gotta push a gen4 bottom 4.8L Also wanna see a 4.065 lq4/9 w/ls3 pistons under boost and maxxed NA (maybe flycut em)
@hugieflhr03
@hugieflhr03 3 жыл бұрын
That little 4.8 is amazing!!! Do you incorporate the knock sensors on these runs?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
we do not
@bc1953
@bc1953 4 жыл бұрын
Wanyed to see how much power you would make with this set up Texasspeed hot cam with springs for LS1, slp ram air lid, MSD manifold intake, Texas speed headers with catted ypipe and cat back set up 3". This is build i. Working on my 99 WS6 with LS1, next year will add DcS1 procharger with 10 to 14lb boost. Everything else stock. Oh and 36lb injectors might upgrade throdle body
@pancudowny
@pancudowny 4 жыл бұрын
It's theorized that the ideal rod/stroke ratio for turbocharging is 2.0:1... so I'd like to see that tested, and what results. ;)
@dualdanman816
@dualdanman816 4 жыл бұрын
Power Power 😷🤙
@DillonTurner395
@DillonTurner395 3 жыл бұрын
Be nice to see back to back to back to back pulls at that power over several hours really get some heat in it and see what happens just as if someone was getting in it on the highway to see not just how much it can handle, but how long it can reliably handle that. Would be a lot of work but would be great to see.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
you missed the point of the Big Bang test
@exvils
@exvils 4 жыл бұрын
2:50 thats what i am doing atm, top of cylinder walls had been damaged by piston (84mm piston in 83.8-83.85mm bore, last owner(tuning company) did everything wrong, even rod bearing clearences are 3x the factory spec) so i hone it out to 84.05mm, and will reuse old rings (in that 83.8 bore clearance was only .014", when forged piston needs for circuit application like .021-.025", and after honing i will end up (what looks like) .031"-.033" ring gap as i want this engine to max out 950hp turbo, and for $800 i paid, engine with forged internals and arp everything is steal here in Slovakia
@dragbikedemon
@dragbikedemon 4 жыл бұрын
That article is my bible for ls Shit talking. I refer to it a with reverence and pride! Thank you Richard!
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 жыл бұрын
Its good ammo
@dragbikedemon
@dragbikedemon 4 жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 its like bringing a 50cal. To a bb gun fight! Lol
@bmstylee
@bmstylee 2 жыл бұрын
This tells me that the 5.3L in my Silverado is capable. Everything behind it will probably be a weakness.
@jasonscales2522
@jasonscales2522 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of the 4.8 (underdog) I'd like to build using all the best gm parts (used) inc supercharger! Have you done one of them builds?
@ramirodiaz4545
@ramirodiaz4545 4 жыл бұрын
PLEASE don't sell out like Dull-berger we need all this free knowledge you bestow upon us. You got another sub here BTW. Keep up the great R & D 👍💪
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 жыл бұрын
thnx, those guys are great dudes to work with-they have (corporate) bosses-luckily I do not!
@ramirodiaz4545
@ramirodiaz4545 4 жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 I know they are that's why I have a Motor Trend memebership. I get it, the struggle is real.
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