Low kick conditioning for stronger legs

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[@GeneralKenobi236]

Glad you added his coach there bro

[@chirayupatil333]

😂

[@TENNSUMITSUMA]

why?! 😶

[@GeneralKenobi236]

@@TENNSUMITSUMA 🗿

[@sheogorath5900]

Yeah i too am used to my dad (not my coach) kicking me all the time.

[@ashernoreen]

💀

[@adielwilson8749]

😂

[@N2O_The1000thElement]

Great conditioning!!

[@vinnantamil9684]

Sorry about that man. Hope ur good now

[@Enexzivity]

Bro what do you mean i can take like 5 and still be fine

[@DMTEntity88]

Bro said “89” and I thought he was talking about the average person cause I can only take 2…😂😂😂

[@b-sideplank]

that's two more than me 😂

[@SaiSich]

You guys can even take kicks?

[@singhmastr]

Average person can't take a single leg kick. Not one!! Taking a leg kick would being able to walk it off. One *serious* leg kick, and you are on the ground crying.

[@SunTzuArtOfWar4]

Same.

[@fredriksjoblom5161]

Wolf's law is really badly missunderstood by the martial arts collective. It states that bone will grow in rsponse to stresses. Damage is NOT a form of stress. When you cause microfractures in a bone it will draw in calcium to strengthen itself, and it actually draws that calcium from the surrounding bone tissue, wich is weakened in turn. The best way to develop strong bones is to stress the bones by lifting heavy (compression stress) or kicking a heavy bag (tension stress). Damage is not the same thing as stress. While leg kicks will cause some stress, they mainly cause damage. It mainly developes your pain tolerance, and there are much more effective ways to actually strengthen the bone.

[@hairyelder5019]

What does the compression force from the heavy bag kicking do to one’s knees? I’ve had knees injuries in the past and I’m wondering if kicking the bag will make them worse.

[@Atomic_Pinneaple]

​@@hairyelder5019unless you do it recklessly it probably shouldn't

[@PetrilloCinema]

@@hairyelder5019 I think this is bound yo happen, so you need to get a bag that isn’t a rock, and mix it up kicking pads here and there. The repeat hard kicks on a rock hard bag is no bueno for my knees at least.

[@NoRockinMansLand]

I just watched Eddie Hall getting a knee kick from a 9 year old and was limping the whole day, meanwhile this Muay Thai dude who's clearly skinny takes 89 from another professional fighter. I'm gonna call BS on that theory of yours, it doesn't explain the obvious

[@fredriksjoblom5161]

Yeah dude, it really does explain the obvious, but only if you actually read the whole thing 😉. Just like i said it does develop pain tolerance but not bone strength. These are two completely different things. One is related to wolf's law and the other is not.

[@Ian3485.]

the "his coach" was very important

[@jonahking74]

Shane turned into a ONE FC spokesman lol

[@discipleaj]

Good for him if so. He's been doing this stuff for a long time, both in and out the ring. His personality has never degraded, which is fantastic as well.

[@ares8553]

Glad for him AND ONE.

[@johnguava]

Good. ONE is awesome

[@donrane]

Wolff's Law. It states that our bones become thicker and stronger over time to resist forces placed upon them and thinner and weaker if there are no forces to act against. Wolff's Law and Injury. This principle is important for preventing injuries. A thicker bone is harder to break.

[@MONOPOLY-RAGER]

Thank you.

[@palawanczech]

How long is it usually takes to get out bones harder? I saw astronauts coming back from space and are not able to walk by themselves because weak bones so reverse effect is probably faster

[@maxpowers4436]

@@palawanczech Its faster because they are in space they go from having gravity to basically zero so the change is so drastic and quick (months).

[@D_Jilla]

​@palawanczech probably similar to muscles where it takes some time at first to build them, but longer since bone injuries take the longest to heal, then i'd imagine conditioning them would also take the longest. That fighter in the video had been conditioned by his dad his whole life lol

[@chriss687]

​@@palawanczech no because they lost muscle...

[@iamKing1176]

I once took over 50 lowkicks while training. Had a huge blood clot that night. Good times.

[@user-vz3tz8mx6w]

I love that my answer is written on his shirt, one kick in a good dey

[@rsn9394]

You review these fighters well. Genuinely good promotional content for ONE championship.

[@Skylander404]

After about 15 of those he probably couldn't even feel his leg lol

[@IrishCoffeee]

And then there are still people out there talking crap like "sHiN cOnDiTiOnInG iS a MyTh" I had to stop Muay Thai for 6 months due to a accident in training. When I hit the gym again I was shocked how weak my shins were and how hard the sand bag suddenly felt. It took me few months of very intense conditioning to get back to my former level. So yeah conditioning is a REAL thing!

[@StraitjacketFitness]

Bro took that wolverine serum.

[@Xrider6]

Im competing in boxing but I still condition my legs. Haha

[@TheBullyDisciple]

No sh*t 😂

[@pranavgainz4180]

When it comes to strikes, your body can handle a lot of pain before it actually gets significant damage

[@jimmysorensen8451]

I only fear the man that practiced the kick 10,000 times😂😉

[@marcsonic01]

i fear the man who has been kicked 10,000 even more

[@its_WeebFPS]

Love this dudes vids.

[@ProfessorG993]

Do you think he would have been able to take all those kicks if he was taking them to the calf ?

[@gorgistanojevik3196]

No man

[@waitwhat....2473]

This type of short is the perfect example as to why Fighttip is my favorit channel for combat knowledge. May you have a long journey.

[@modahlifts5095]

Jonathan ate those leg kicks like they were nothing

[@ronelstevegayao3558]

Nice video thanks for your guidance very useful

[@grivebulbs7539]

I really like your shorts.

[@Cssisabeautifulthang]

I wish I was old enough to start doing this at my gym regularly

[@RAPEDBYBLACKS]

You can do it whenever just be reasonable and go light.

[@kazuyazw6783]

Would like to see you do the same type o video for superlek vs takeru

[@cristian-gabrielgaldamezbr3810]

Trained at Di Bella's kickboxing academy in Saint-Michel, Montréal. Super friendly, family gym. Old school italians don't play around combat sports, whether it's boxing or kickboxing lol.

[@shawnvaughn91]

Impact training is one of the most useful things if done properly and within reason. There is a risk that always comes with impact training that you could, in the extreme, make your fist one almost solid mass of bone, which it's not supposed to be. Joint damage is his high when you are kind of doing those really insane conditioning things. I do think bag work is a safer way to do impact training. And maybe some sand or medicine ball. But once again, everything within reason. I am actually a big fan of medicine ball exercises. We used to do them in basketball. And the main reason is you gotta be able to handle the impact of catching the ball and continuing on until we either pass or shoot. And you're supposed to take the pass close to the chest, so it's a lot of impact training for that.

[@Faith-sl1re]

From what I remember, bone conditioning is very much not a thing. When being kicked the bone does become harder in the direction where you were kicked while becoming thinner in the opposite direction. However If you walk and stand more then you kick, which you probably do, the bone will realign itself due to the downard force of gravity. What really happens is you are killing the nerves in your leg and numbing them making it so you don't feel the pain. I don't think the micro bone fractures even help at all and could make it so the bone breaks easier

[@SeyidAr]

I think this makes a lot of sense. Muay Thai fighters definitely have denser bones but so do most athletes compared to normal people. Bodybuilders have thicker bones than normal people too. I don't think it makes your muscles "harder" either. I think professional fighters are just really well conditioned to flex their muscles over and over again without fatiguing. When i get body punched 10 times, my abs are so fatigued that i can't flex them any more. Pros can do that for 30 minutes. But i think i can take one hard body punch better than a pro that's 100lbs lighter than me.

[@BennetJW]

Bone conditioning is a 100% thing, because osteoblasts build literally new bone and connective tissue in your microfractured bone, but you are also right with the nerves that they get killed and numbed so they feel less pain.

[@Faith-sl1re]

@@BennetJW When ever i have gone to look up microfractures i have always found it being referred to as pseudo science to, it seems, people not understanding x-rays of bones. From what i understand, microfractures do build more bone, but that extra bone is just denser not stronger. Something can be dense but no strong, meaning it can't bend as much and any moment that would force it to move will break it easier. So that leg you kept conditioning is now denser but it will break easier, but you don't feel the pain since you killed the nerves so people might interpret that as your bones being stronger

[@BennetJW]

@@Faith-sl1re Ah I understand your point now, its like the analogy with a tree vs a grass halm in strong wind. The thing is that a denser bone is stronger because it is made denser with the same material. If you would have a hollow iron block and add more and more iron into it, the fuller it gets also the stronger it gets. But bones are rigid, they have practically zero plasticity which means even a weaker bone would break since the calcium crystals are not able to bend, they would just break so there is practically no disadvantage in a thicker bone. You just need to make sure to let it heal properly and this is the part where many mess up so the bone ends up completly stress fractured.

[@TreyYork1]

You are correct in spirit! He is (probably unintentionally) misrepresenting Wolff's law. The evidence relates to bones getting thicker through *compressive* force! I.E. shin bones from sprinters are significantly thicker! Repeated pliometrics, gymnastics, maybe heavy lifts even can thicken bones-- for instance, the skeletons of archers can be determined by archeologists, the distinctive density of the arm bones! If someone has found bending or shearing forces like getting kicked by your dad apply to Wolff's law, then it is a new study and contradicts previous data!

[@gaye_alisir]

Bro when you fighting in one? I know you retired but damn I'd love to see you fight.

[@ineedpapers]

He had us in the first half ngl

[@acexae2411]

The last time I conditioned my thighs like that, I got hip joint pain for 6 long months, intense hop pain, made me couldn't train or nearly walk much😢

[@acexae2411]

Tips for recovery after such conditioning?

[@feral5374]

Go to doctor and never do that type of stuff again lol​@@acexae2411

[@readwrecks]

My pain tolerance is so low, I cringe at the thought of delivering a leg kick.

[@helojoeywala6622]

how can i do conditioning at a softer level?

[@fighttips]

Lower impact and with shin guards on

[@helojoeywala6622]

@@fighttips THX. and it still works right?

[@WolfCubMMA]

My son always kicks me. 😅 Sometimes I check his kicks, and get a good laugh. 😅🤷‍♂️

[@M4M1610]

I’m new to Muay Thai but been a runner for 13 years.The other day doing drill some kid kicked me full power and laughed thinking it would dead my leg.I felt it but it didn’t buckle me.Just wait until next week when I introduce him to a Canello style body hook under his rib cage and make him wary of who he takes the piss out of

[@schotti3075]

Conditioning is important but I like to mix it up with some sort of drill instead of just banging the leg over and over again ;)

[@Thesavagesouls]

Got a question... When conditioning, should your leg muscle tense up or be loose when receiving the kicks ?

[@jonapple2325]

Tensing adds padding and rigidity so I don't see why not, the main thing is whether you choose to plant your shin into the ground and put weight on it or if you choose to keep weight off it like you're checking

[@Thesavagesouls]

@jonapple2325 ok thanks !

[@mkingscott]

Fun fact: when my hip replacement became loose in my femur, I grew extra bone on the outside of my leg to compensate. Thanks, Wolff's Law 👍

[@julianeder4699]

definitely makes sense to flex the muscle for thigh kicks in training as you would do the same thing in a fight. Plus you wanna put as little stress as possible on your inner anatomy during training to prevent slight injuries that may show their effects in a real fight.

[@mongolshonny6633]

That's why you have to kick higher on the leg, 20 cm under the hip bone like in kyokoshin and do the walking backwords exercises

[@victorarchitect8577]

I took one and fall i need this, do you have a protocol or something?

[@ontheweed]

one day he will fight someone who will absolutely debilitate that leg.

[@Allnonym0u5]

Ouch!

[@ernesrivera3347]

89. Wow I can barely take 8 or 9

[@sk8rddy957]

That “his coach” is carrying a lot of weight

[@fostersstubbyasmr9557]

Probably hurt the other guy more ahahah

[@rhidiandavies1991]

How many could I take before I gave up? Probably 5 or 6. How many could i take and still function properly in a fight? Probably 3 or 4 depending on where they land. How many would I ever want to take? Negative 100

[@mikesecondname]

How hard do you have to get hit for ‘correct’ conditioning?

[@nba_fan7214]

Bruh 89 leg kicks is insane. I take a couple of good leg kicks in training and I'm done

[@sofabored2150]

I could prolly take 3.

[@Jamarr009]

When did his hair get so long??

[@Zenix.]

Thanks dad for bea- I mean, "conditioning" me when I was younger.

[@e.j.alcairo8195]

😮❤

[@parafuegosarchive]

how many leg kicks can I take? like 2.53 Idk

[@justafloridamanfromthe75thRR]

that was not just conditioning it was also genetics

[@de0509]

Shaolin: conditioning Aikido: calmness Etc. Kickboxing/MMA: literally all of them combined

[@devonlovelace2588]

We did the math for me once and it was 3

[@cianggg7111]

It strengthens the muscle you say????

[@someguyyouknow6420]

I think I’d take two. First one gonna get ignored by adrenaline the next one will cripple me

[@dateusz]

my legs are so weak I'm still sore from a hit I took in a sparring session a month ago

[@Sulamanjansulttaani]

My daddy too uses me..

[@waynewebster3824]

what’s your pro record

[@fighttips]

1-0, you?

[@waynewebster3824]

@@fighttips 0 from 0 but I don’t give tips on the subject stick to the pad work

[@Pryde_]

@@waynewebster3824coaches coach bud, you’re dumb

[@Elias-xu7uw]

Most importantly it removes nerve cells from your legs...

[@ipleathetv6334]

Jonathan Dibella good find

[@toxicbreaker776]

How is this not lead to internal bleeding?

[@JeremyConners]

Running and squats are things that thicken your leg bones over time. Conditioning is not one.

[@jurebric1827]

I think i can take less than 5 leg kick from pro muay thai guy

[@al3440]

Don’t they also chuck flour on the floor of Muay Thai camps to check for heel marks😬

[@wojciechsawicki4733]

Wolff's law doesn't work like that, you're just destroying your nerve endings so they don't feel pain anymore

[@fighttips]

No, you're not "deadening the nerves," you're actually just increasing the cell's threshold at which it send information to the brain.

[@wojciechsawicki4733]

@@fighttips that's interesting

[@cujimmi]

Yep i used to fo this when i was younger...now at the other side of 50 my legs are fucked

[@blackpsalmmusic9180]

In my first amateur kickboxing fight i ate 28 leg kicks right above the knee with those cheesy thin foam leg pads, i didnt feel it during the fight bc adrenaline but i couldnt walk for a week after 😂 (i won)

[@honeybadgerftw2383]

Not bone thickness, density sensai. density

[@TheDOS]

Check out Armchair Violence on this kind of condition. Great take and, other than deadening nerves to increase pain tolerance, pretty much debunks its usefulness.

[@Perry-ru5nm]

I probably suvive to 4-6 if my opponent is on the same level as me

[@AlexRoque-eo1hp]

More like conditioning pain

[@wDeXteR4]

Please! It does not strenghten the bones. It actually weakens it and the lovered pain treshold risks harder hits that what you can take. This is how people break their shins. Read up on it I'm no scientist.

[@Trollking.]

Am i the only one who thinks he looks like arnold shwazniger?

[@mallman23]

Yes

[@fighttips]

I see it, a young skinny Arnold

[@Thesavagesouls]

shwazniger ? Lmao

[@dummyfunny5098]

nah I dont see it at all

[@djfoof3518]

How the fuck do you take someone down who can just soak up leg kicks

[@onelostpothead]

I could prob take 50

[@AssassinIronMan]

You’re just killing your nerves. There ain’t no benefit to conditioning. Don’t let your dad hit you.

[@tiger_of_kai]

89 is too much. How about 0?

[@molitareal6204]

i can take 2 leg kicks, and im out

[@iiskslf6410]

YOU GUYS'S CAN TAKE MORE THJEN ONE LOW KCIKA?????? jesus christ you guy's legs are made of steel. I can barely even get legkicked once before dying.

[@pupper5580]

Bro I recommend you not to use PEDs. You're going to lose your hair so fast lol.

[@GwraGaru]

So uh

[@GwraGaru]

I dont really know why but whenever I run too much or if I get like even just a light tap from a friend I get an itching pain all over my body that hurts like hell

[@Sheriff.Movement]

That's what happens when you train kyokushin Unfortunately, no fighter could ever understand the power of this type of martial art

[@kesenaememere8520]

Jonathan does Kyokushin?

[@Sheriff.Movement]

@kesenaememere8520 I don't know. I'm just saying that kyokushin fighters could handle that kick very easily without any pain

[@bigbrainmcflurry2425]

None

[@DeepValueOptions]

But shaolin monks have taken this all the way, they are immune to all damage like this. It’s a fact

[@Soldierofmyself]

Immune to damage he says. The world would change if people became immune to damage. Hospitals would close down. You meant to say tolerant against pain

[@DeepValueOptions]

@@Soldierofmyself shaolin are hardly 0.1% of the population

[@fighttips]

They're not immune. In fact, it's proven that you cannot condition the head/brain. The more you get hit there, the weaker you become. Watch Yi Long get knocked out by Saiyok.

[@DeepValueOptions]

@@fighttips they’ve conditioned even the skin and their ball sack. Look up Shi Yan Ming (they did a crash test dummy experiment with him.)

[@AdolfHitler-pm3lc]

Using your head to break shit doesn't mean it's good for you lmao. The brain isn't made of muscle tissue, your leg muscles are. Conditioning the legs and body isn't anywhere near the same thing as "conditioning" the head. Conditioning the head is getting concussed, which is bad for you ​@@kholsinger

[@pramudyaprilo4750]

a normal untrained people wouldnt even take 2 kicks at their leg

[@Dead_Goat]

leg kicks are useless

[@LittleHammer_]

Got no interest in leg kicking shit, ever.

[@Sidelinefighter-expert]

Dude you’ve never fought a day in your life

[@Pryde_]

Objectively false. Quit projecting lil bro

[@joshmilligan7682]

i only cringe when i see your videos...

[@itsAuffy]

Literally didn’t say anything about how to train them except by having someone kick your legs?? Like bruh not practical

[@fighttips]

It's actually the most practical

[@Comegetmesuckas]

Videos like this is why i love your channel ❤

[@PhilimonDdbbarma]

I can take multiple strike