Lowered 2023 Subaru Outback Onyx XT Turbo! Review and 0-60.

[@KenCheng]

I DO think Subaru should go after the Audi All Road/Volvo Cross Country market but should add air suspension so you can raise it when you need the clearance.

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

That would be sweet! 🙂

[@514aam]

Would be better to do it similar to a lift kit from KW, more reliable.

[@georgegiorgio]

They should keep the classic cladding between Gen 4 up to Gen 5, the front of Gen 6 was ok up to 2021, ever since they messed up the design Now the wheel arc plastic cladding from Crosstrek is hideous and the front fascia looks like tears coming out like 4Runner Even European and Japanese front fascia looks better

[@XenZenSen]

Nah I like it ​@@georgegiorgio

[@nelsonvanvickle8862]

This looks absolutely stunning. The wife and I just got into a 24’ Onyx XT in autumn green and we love it, but I can’t help but think about how much better it would look lowered!!

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

That’s awesome, I hope you guys enjoy it! Yeah, this Outback really stood out in person. 🤩

[@awepossum1059]

The wheels also complete the look

[@logix7]

did a little digging. these should be the specs on the wheel setup: XXR 559, 20x8.5 +38 offset

[@PRO4XKEV]

I drive a 2018 Forester XT Touring and lowered it. This Outback looks sharp, makes me appreciate the Outback more, since I am more into the Forester.

[@spawn11]

We need this lowered Outback STI version from Subaru. For people who wont do hardcore offroading and need practical sporty wagon. In Canada I would happily pay 55-60ks for it if it makes 320+ HP

[@jimbojumbo-os1np]

It wouldnt sell in the USA, theres a reason you guys dont get manuals or wrx wagons anymore. The outbacks also way too bloated these days to be sporty, itd just be a wrx wagon that weighs 300kg more.

[@PilotReidB]

The thing is - I bet 99.9% of Outback Wildernesses will never see any sort of off-roading that you couldnt take an 02 Civic down. Same with 4Runners, and Wranglers, and Raptors, and Tacomas... But people want to "buy the lifestyle". They want to look like they do those things. "well what if it snows" "what about our one trip to the mountains every year". Its the same with people who buy an F-150 because "what if I need to move a couch" Subaru won't ever build an STI outback and if they do, it will probably be electric only. They will take the brand equity and use it on an EV. I mean Subaru won't even put a real gear box in these things, what makes you think they'll build a cool version

[@seanmarmolejo1738]

And here I thought I was stuck between Audi and Volvo for a wagon.. save $20k and slam an Outback and never worry about reliability either 😮‍💨

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

There you go, lol! 😂

[@dhanipersaud6227]

The problem is the Outback, and even the current Legacy sedan, is that they drive more like a crossover/suv rather than a sporty sedan or wagon.

[@vettedsin]

hell yeah. that looks smooth as hell. was thinking of doing this to my 24 limited.

[@MM-yy9ib]

I like lowered Outbacks. Your Outback is NOICE!!!!!

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

Lol, thanks! It was a fun drive.

[@subninja8069]

@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 I love station wagons anyways. Were I live I don't Really need to height.

[@Doc1855]

Nice looking car. We need the ground clearance, however. Great Review, Man

[@GeraldGGGGG]

Omg. 😱 I still have my lowered 05 legacy gt wagon to this day and was bummed that they discontinued the turbo wagons. But seeing this makes gives me wanna go get an xt now! Tysm for the vid!

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

My pleasure, I’m glad you enjoyed it and it relates to you so well! 🙂

[@dhanipersaud6227]

The problem with the current Outback, it doesn't drive like a small sporty wagon, like the Outback used too. It drives like a larger crossover/SUV now. The current Legacy drives more likes a crossover/suv than a sporty sedan.

[@italyonedaysoon3224]

Looks good, thank you for reviewing and sharing it with us!

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

It’s definitely one I didn’t want to pass up, lol. 🙂

[@mickeybrumfield764]

It looks fine. I like to take my Subarus off road though so I appreciate having additional ground clearance.

[@jackmankins2520]

It’s been such a long day, so glad to see a new video from you today!! Love the review per usual lol. Nice to see your content

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

Today has been a long day, lol. Thanks for watching another one! 🙂

[@jackmankins2520]

@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 of course! It’s so relaxing and it’s nice to feel like we’re staying in touch through your videos. LOL.

[@cmpequeno]

Looks so good lowered!

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

Yeah, it really did!

[@sha81di]

1:52 I noticed that the exhaust system doesn't have protection. When it lowered, do you think it is going to be a problem?

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

That’s a good question, it could be a concern in some situations but I think if you’re careful on speed bumps and how to back up to curbs you probably won’t notice many issues from that.

[@jmzz4mrlz597]

What’s the best trim on the outback?? Is it the touring xt or onyx? But definitely want the turbo!

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

The highest trim level is Touring XT, but the Onxy is a very cool trim level.

[@jmzz4mrlz597]

@ thanks, we definitely made our choice with the touring xt white with the tan leather seats 👍👌!!

[@doodskie999]

Sick build man! Although too low for my liking, nevertheless, its awesome!

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

I agree, it’s not my style but I’m glad it exists lol.

[@johnesplana9271]

I love your reviews and excited to see more with your new RAV4. DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT BRAND/MODEL WHEELS THEY USED? If you have a contact at the dealership, I can always reach out to them directly. Based on your review I pick my new 2025 Outback Touring XT and over time I want to change the wheels and do a chrome delete. Any help would be greatly appreciated?

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

Thanks, I’m thrilled that they bring you value! I don’t know or at least remember at this point, sorry about tha. If you happen to call you could ask for BMG and see if he remembers what the lowered 2023 Outback had on it! Best of luck!

[@mcwendel8066]

Looks great! I wish they had a manual version

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

Absolutely, I wonder if we’ll ever see that again…😅

[@xandervk2371]

So you made it into a Legacy wagon.

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

Yeah, that’s basically what they did! 😎

[@Stormtrooper_98Trd]

I like how you mentioned the height by feet! Not many people do that! Helps me think how short i actually am 😂.

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

I don’t understand why specs are usually listed in inches. Or worse millimeters, like seriously? Get out of here, haha.

[@Stormtrooper_98Trd]

@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 exactly!

[@jorgepassos8445]

Looks beautiful. Wet weather wagon ready.

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

Absolutely! 😎

[@jorgepassos8445]

For that reason am I going to get a good discount on something like that?

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

I would hope so, but I have no idea. I don’t have any affiliation with any of the dealers I borrow cars from. If you’re serious about buying a Subaru I would call SoA customer service and ask if you qualify for any discount coupons. Best of luck! 🙂

[@J.Young808]

10:46 the reservoirs are on the Driver’s side in the US

[@acuraholic05]

What’s the model number on the springs used? Or what year legacy were the springs intended for. Love this look!

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

I apologize I don’t know the model number. Just that they’re a H&R lowering kit meant for likely the same generation/year Legacy. It seriously looked sweet in person, lol. Thanks for watching! 🙂

[@JeremyEdwards-qi3ir]

I looked on H& R’s website and don’t see that they have lowering springs for this year. Can you please let me know more information, or can you let us know?

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

I was told that the springs were for a legacy on the previous generation but they were able to be fitted to this Outback. I’m sorry I wish I knew more. 🤷‍♂️😅

[@g.r.2985]

I liked Subies before but this is SICK!! Well done, Sir! Won't be much good off road anymore, but I'm sure you've read the other comments anyway! If the lowering helps the mileage, then how bad does the Thule effect it?

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

It seriously looked sick in person, lol. I honestly don’t know. I would assume the undercarriage air pressure drop doesn’t quite negate the airflow distribution from the Thule. I often hear of forums that a big roof rack can drop 3-4MPG, idk if these are any better than a rack? Thanks for watching! 🙂

[@joelwachter6750]

I’m struggling to find springs to lower my 25 outback. Would appreciate a link to order them!

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

I think I shared more information in other comment threads on this video. But off hand I don’t necessarily remember and I wasn’t given exact specs when I borrowed the car. Sorry about that!

[@luqngoc]

Do lowering springs increase ride harshness? Do stocked shocks have room to handle lowering springs? It would be great to get suggestions on shocks built for lowering springs.

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

I’m sure most lowering springs add some degree of harshness/firmness to the ride. I’m no suspension expert, but I do know that this type of set up is favoring Form over Function. With that said, I don’t recall noticing any drive ability issues, but I also didn’t push its suspension limits by any means. 🙂

[@CSLV72]

Hey bro, I'm a Mazda owner myself, and I bought Bilstein B8's for my car. They're made specifically for lowering springs, but I'll warn you now, B8's are very firm.

[@agentcelsius]

any way to get the H&R Legacy Lowering Springs item code or info on where to get it? I would like to lower my 2024 legacy touring xt

[@JJ-ws3zn]

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[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

Sorry for the delay, it’s taken this long to make it back to ask the guy who did it. He said they’re H&R lowering springs for a 2019 (or last generation) Legacy sedan. I’d imagine you can find them on H&Rs website. Thanks for watching! 🙂

[@MartinStockel-k6f]

I like the 2024 Outback Onyx XT Turbo. Sharp wheels on the 2023.

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

Yeah, those wheels look great in person! 🙂

[@tophit97]

Nice. What is this Rim Spec? Thank you.

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

It’s a 20” on a 245/45/20, but beyond that I’m unsure of the exact wheel width and offset. 😅

[@tophit97]

@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 thank you. Please let me know if you ever find out.

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

You got it! I wonder if you’d be able to find the information you’re looking for on XXR website?

[@logix7]

XXR 559, 20x8.5 +38 offset

[@kitana7]

Any tips on aftermarket dual exhausts for 2023 Outback XT's? I had a 2005 Legacy GT with Subaru's power pack installed, and miss the low exhaust growl....

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

I bet that sounded good! I’m ignorant of this platforms cat back exhaust options. I’ve been told the Nameless brand sounds good, also had seen someone cut out their mufflers and weld straight pipe and that also woke it up a lot. Best of luck! 😅

[@zZBucketsZz]

I wonder how he solved the non adjustable rear camber issue.

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

That’s a good question, I’m sorry I don’t know more about this specific set up.

[@chrish352]

I’m wondering if they used the Whiteline KCA326 used on the 4th gen, Subaru usually isn’t to adventurous on suspensions.

[@JeremyEdwards-qi3ir]

@chris352, I’m wondering the same thing because my rear tires that came on the car were ruined after 30,000 miles because of the negative camber issue. Wondering if you could use Legacy control arms.

[@YTWine29]

That’s actually hard, but where did you find the wheels and suspension im thinking of this on my 2016 Subaru Outback 3.6r limited

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

The dealership actually did all of the mods. I know the legacy had H&R lowering springs from a 2019 (previous gen model) that they made work. 🤷‍♂️😊

[@YTWine29]

Do you get scrubbing on the fenders?

[@teddybear1370]

wow look sick💪

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

Yeah, even better in person! 🙂

[@alexe92life11]

Needs to be done to an Outback touring to be a budget Rs6 avant

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

That would be sweet! 😎

[@alexe92life11]

@AutomotiveAnonymous208 I would do it but my wife and I got the non turbo engine which sucks

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

😢

[@chiuuuuuuuuuu]

I was thinking of Rsr lowering springs. Good to know there's another option to turn an outback into a legacy wagon.

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

It’s nice to have options! 😎

[@chiuuuuuuuuuu]

@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 exactly. I heard the rsr one was optimized for non XT which will makes the rear higher if installed on a XT. Yours looks perfect 👍👍

[@vannevels6758]

So this is a dealer lowered OBXT, for how much more? Warranteed? I've got a coilover lowered 06 OBXT with the STI 6M swap. The CVT is cool but manual is the choice of drivers until Subaru offers a DCT OBXT.

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

Yeah, and pricing I don’t remember, maybe a 4 or 5k increase, but I’m assuming the suspension is warrantied. It should have come with a manual for sure!

[@vannevels6758]

@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 I've gotta call them cuz a dealer modding ANY car, especially lowering an OBXT, is unbelievable. I'm sure some #Subaguru (ya read it here 1st!) can swap an STI drivetrain into a new OBXT. So would you pay $55K+- for a lowered, STI 6M OBXT Touring? That IS the question!..... Cuz there won't be an M3 CS wagon nor an Audi RS4 Performance/ Competition here until 2049 at the absolute EARLIEST.🙄

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

That’s a good question. The used car manager who does these sort of projects to the new cars actually personally owns a late year STI with 500ho built IAG block lol. It did 0-60 in 4.3 seconds spinning all 4 winter tires at the time and shifting up to 3rd gear. Lol

[@logix7]

i checked on this a while back and they put the stock suspension and wheels back on it

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

On this vehicle I filmed?? I do know it sat on the lot for a while but then didn’t notice when it changed or disappeared as I only come through here a few times a month.

[@markcaron7381]

Could you provide the exact make and model of the lowering springs?

[@markcaron7381]

What year Legacy are the springs for? How does it ride?

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

I’m sorry I believe all I can remember is that they were H&R springs for a 2019 Legacy that were either interchangeable or modified to fit this newer generation Outback. It seemed to ride decently, but from what I can remember I don’t recall if it felt as comfortable as stock or not.

[@markcaron7381]

@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 maybe you could take a look and see which springs they were. It would be a big help. H&R makes different springs with different drop amounts

[@stock-obks]

I wonder if this could be done on a gen4 usdm outback

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

That’s a good question! With enough $ someone could make that work for you. 🤷‍♂️😅😉

[@BodiesByJason]

The fish eye lens is bothering me

[@Pwaters86]

This looks awesome! You should do this to an XT Touring. The tune is different. The Onyx has higher RPMs before fake shifting. I think for more power in the lower gears.

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

That would be a sweet ride! 😎

[@josejsrjsr]

What year springs of the legacy

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

I think I was told they were 2019, so technically the last gen Legacy.

[@donnycraighead4863]

Do u have the part number for the lowering springs wanna lower my 23 onyx xt

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

I’m sorry I do not. Just that they are H&R lowering springs for a 2019 Legacy.

[@donnycraighead4863]

@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 thx u the year works too

[@coreymyers1839]

What springs are these? Link?

[@JJ-ws3zn]

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[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

Sorry for the delay, it’s taken this long to make it back to ask the guy who did it. He said they’re H&R lowering springs for a 2019 (or last generation) Legacy sedan. I’d imagine you can find them on H&Rs website. Thanks for watching! 🙂

[@JoseMunoz-yc9dq]

Can anyone tell me the part number or which exact springs to get

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

Here’s the same response o just have on the other video you commented on so hopefully you see one of these! I know I shared all the information I knew at time of filming in other comments on that video, but otherwise I don’t remember. You could call Twin Falls Subaru and ask for a guy that goes by BMG if he could give you more details. He’s a cool dude and I think the guy who had the Outback modified. Best of luck!

[@KJKinder]

CD player?

[@richardmarino2732]

I drive a black one. Trust me, the seats are horrendously uncomfortable. If you like being compressed by a seat with too much bolster in the backrest while the seat cushion lacks support resulting in a clamshell driving experience this is the car for you.

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

Oh man! 😆

[@sulin422]

What size tire

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

245/45/20! 🙂

[@АлександрСергеевич-ц6ч]

And rim size please

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

That I’m unsure of the width and offset. Sorry guys, lol. 😞

[@jacobji8132]

whats this wheel et and j number

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

I’m sorry I don’t know those specific specs. 🤦‍♂️ Had I known it was going to be such a popular set up I would have tried to dig for more details. I did include a few basic details in my description though I believe.

[@txp-tuff4358]

I'd go a little lower but not much. Probably a stiffer RSB to get a less understeer. With the roads where I live, low profile tires are not the best idea, but splitting the difference between the stock profile can be doable. Better tires than the Avids. Definitely no cargo box. I'm more of a 'low drag, high speed' kinda guy.

[@cianmacken5475]

11:34 Never heard it referred to a THOOL - I pronounce it TOOLIE

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

Yeah, I think you’re right… 😅

[@dillonh321]

If there was a way to cleanly remove the black cladding it would look good otherwise it looks goofy to me.

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

That’s a good point! On this color of blue it did look good in person, but on a lighter color I could see that being a problem. 🙂

[@judih.8754]

I suppose a good shop could spray all the cladding in body color.

[@dillonh321]

@@judih.8754 yeah but then it looks like it’s got tumors bulging out where the cladding was. Maybe I’m just too picky.

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

Agreed! Maybe some aftermarket smoothed out wide body fenders that are then paint matched?! 😃

[@Offensively-normal]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@dealman3312]

It does look good but an outback is supposed to be jacked up. Its a jacked up legacy. I wouldnt lower it. With the right rims and tires, it looks great jacked. For those wagon fans, check out the john cooperworks Mini Countryman. It drives more like a sport wagon than an suv and has 301hp from a BMW B48 2.0L Turbo motor. Years up to 2019 you can get it in manual.

[@haroldbeauchamp3770]

I don’t get the goofy ass rooftop cargo carrier. Take it off fools😂😂

[@MartinStockel-k6f]

Adds much more storage space for taking long summer trips. Comes off easily with a person on each side. I don't think it is goofy looking. Made to be aerodynamic. I guess you think people with a roof top carrier are fools. That is your stupid right to say!

[@MartinStockel-k6f]

I guess you need to swear to get your point across. Swearing is against the posting rules friend.

[@haroldbeauchamp3770]

@@MartinStockel-k6f no I’m referring to those who leave it up full time. It’s only goofy in that scenario. I use mine and take it off when my trip is over.

[@Jose_hernandez970]

I own a garage next to an import tuner shop and these guys come in all the time. They leave the rooftop boxes on full time because they think it looks cool. Also you’re right in calling these people fools. 90% percent of these people who do the stance or lowered look have major suspension issues and alignment problems. Volkswagen owners tend to the worse, but I see lots of Subaru enthusiasts having issues too.

[@MartinStockel-k6f]

@@haroldbeauchamp3770 Thanks for the reply Harold.

[@JeffSpehar-ov1cn]

Kind of like lifting a WRX.

[@AutomotiveAnonymous208]

Which some people do, lol. 🤷‍♂️😛

[@J.Young808]

I believe Thule is pronounced tool lee

[@Ben-bs4od]

The Mazda CX-50 looks better and doesn't have a CVT. But I'd rather have the smaller Impreza RS. The Outback used to be smaller but now it's a massive car. Naaaa.....