ByuN's BATTLECRUISER ARMY vs Protoss?! (StarCraft 2)

In this tournament game of StarCraft 2 ByuN decides to suddenly switch to Mass Battlecruiser as he has fallen behind against the Protoss player Nightmare.
This match of StarCraft 2 is from the OSC Masters Cup 148:
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[@liveinamber1307]

Welcome back to Learning with Lowko! Today's facts: 1. Probes get reborn as observers or colossi. 2. A fully grown colossus can withstand a widow mine detonation. 3. Liberators and the Sentry can theoretically attack air units. However, this has not been proven. 4. Rocks are a carrier's worst enemy. 5. The missile turret is the new spore crawler. 6. A mothership's name should never be uttered. 7. Dark templars are naked, which is why they are cloaked. 8. 37:50 Pre-storms! Until next year! Cheers!

[@grigorymysov9851]

Surprisingly, there is even an actual merit to 4: carriers can attack rocks to get the interceptors deployed right before a fight, which gives them a noticeable power boost. Yet to see it in the a pro game, tough

[@Dallows65]

Dont forget that spore crawlers are somehow more static than missile turrets xD

[@jarenford9088]

@@grigorymysov9851I’ve seen it in a couple professional games but it’s been a while since I’ve seen anyone do it. Probably a year or so.

[@eshetek]

Liberator's air attack isnt on the same level of useless as sentry attacks tho. against clumped up units like mutas, their splash damage can be quite ugly

[@taoofjester4113]

Thank Queem Brenda, you're back. I missed out on a lot of learning during your absence.

[@sleepylight]

Protoss units don't die. They just get warped to a farm up state where they have room to run and play with all their friends.

[@spandanganguli6903]

Aren't protoss units in warp fields canonically warped back if they're in a powerfield?

[@OurMadUniverse]

I like Carbots probe

[@rattusgrenadus8291]

Zerg units just melt into the creep and their dna is sucked up and reformed into new little zerglings

[@thekornreeper]

Lmao 😂

[@thefinalboss4471]

​@@spandanganguli6903 Their armor will try to warp them away if they get hurt, but sometimes the damage happens quickly enough that the Protoss is still crippled. After that if they still want to fight they can be loaded into an immortal.

[@calineos6770]

"Protoss don't die" was also part of a story in the comic book series. They have an emergency warp, but with limited range and some vulnerabilities. At least zealots have it, confirmed, so adepts, templars and pilots of all sorts should have something similar, too. Aside from Dragoons and Immortals probably, who wish to die with honor, robots of all sorts, and Archons... who are already dying violently.

[@1KamaronConClase]

That was an amazing TvZ game! What a refreshing video to watch! GGWP, great cast as always

[@jheicobguzman6132]

:V un camaron camarero:V:V:V:V okno

[@danc6167]

Wonderful game! Would love to see more from NightMare

[@Hecate24]

according to lore, bios like zealots have emergency warp when they're mortally wounded or on the verge of dying. some of them get to continue service as dragoons("i have returned" dialogue when warped in), immortals, some who only have their consciousness left(for heroic or commendable soldiers), get to live as AI on robotic units (purifier program). probes are robotic units that are expendable though.

[@Kay_Three]

Love seeing some TvP at this high level

[@quasar2834]

31:50 You wonder if he's getting carried away? Of course he is, that's what the Carriers do! I'll see myself out now...

[@polca4love]

So bad it's funny. XD

[@jaguar8038]

18:58 i will not let this joke go to waste it was brilliant

[@quasar2834]

Protoss is starting to look really strong again, with MaxPax, Astrea, and NightMare coming up, and herO, Stats, Classic and soon PartinG returning from their military service within the past couple years. Can't wait to see what these guys can manage.

[@HaploBartow]

Don't forget Harstem

[@quasar2834]

@@HaploBartow Harstem too, somehow forgot about him despite the fact that I watch his videos too! Reynor is also really good with Protoss!

[@ЯЗеленый-п6б]

​@@quasar2834reynor is my crush 🥰

[@burdy1990]

NightMare played good with patience, was waiting for the right moment to storm Byun.

[@Phi1618033]

It's almost 2024, and I'm still watching high-level Starcraft 2 matches. What does that say about me? What does that say about Starcraft 2? What does that say about the Nederlander (aka Dutchman) Lowko, who almost certainly ate a stroopwafel or french fries with mayonnaise sometime this week?

[@15harney1987]

Nerd moment: the Protoss as a race are joined together in the khala (mentally linked, basically every protoss can see, think, and feel what everyone else experiences, but they can keep things private if they want or need to.) When they die, it’s felt by the whole race, and while the individual themselves are gone, their memories live on in the rest The dark templar, however, decided to not join the khala to maintain their individuality and were exiled and hunted down for their beliefs and practices until tassadar met zeratul and brought the 2 back together

[@rattusgrenadus8291]

My own theory is that zerg dont really die if the hive can scrape up their remains they reform them into new zerg

[@15harney1987]

@@rattusgrenadus8291 if they are eaten, sure, but otherwise they're no different than any other living creature. They die and decompose, the hive spawns more. They're treated kind of like the Russians by their officers in ww2: their lives dont matter, so throw them all at the enemy, eventually theyll be overrun

[@dragonrulerbaby7926]

nightmare played so fucking good

[@pondering1716]

When life gives you lemons, make battlecruisers

[@ЯЗеленый-п6б]

Easy peezy lemon squeeze

[@jx1200]

I feel like the late game is getting so good lately. Like a year ago or so TvP lategame was just mass carriers/tempest vs mass BCs. But now there is a lot more variety in the unit composition, with constant skirmishes and back and forth. The same can be said for ZvP with Reynor's half-skytoss game recently and TvZ with the move away from Ghostmech. It feels like the meta as a whole is moving away from deathballs, which is very good to see.

[@asdfasdf-mn8iu]

I mean, the T composition has not changed at all for years and protoss have gone from carriers only to a few carriers with many tempests and some ground army to defend them. I can't see how much changed? Mass BC was always risky for T because BC kills tempests with jump and yamato, but other than that, BC die to tempests insanely quickly. I feel like more protoss manage their army properly nowadays with oracles tagging and HT zoning, but other than that, the unit comp feels same-ish.

[@HaploBartow]

@15:50 no rush 20 minutes--great shout out to us custom game heroes 😀 can't let ladder heroes get all the love.

[@Daniel-Star]

Probes are just robots their is nothing living in them unlike a dragoon or immortal. Up until Legacy of the void all High Templar Protoss units where connected though the Khala? their group consciousness so when a Protoss dies they still live on within the Khala. That was never true of the Dark Templar, and in legacy of the void the the High Templar sever themselves from the Khala. I don't know if they also have some kind of emergency warp system.

[@Nekoyashiki-san]

Nightmare is selling dreams to the protoss and the viewers here. x) Thanks for casting. ^^

[@Sir_Tomoyuki]

I guess you can say...Protoss is a Nightmare to play against.

[@consonaadversapars]

Psi storms + blink Stalkers + Tempests is kinda OP.

[@Chain59s]

Epic - I was screaming at Nightmare when he wouldn't engage with carriers... but he did it

[@SaltpeterTaffy]

It's almost like NightMare allowed the macro game to happen to make a statement. Absolutely beautiful play.

[@davidyang4142]

Thank you Lowko for the amazing video. This video has a great turn out.

[@louistrinh3608]

Nightmare totally deserved the win. Byun was sleeping half of the time.

[@ch00ch002u]

The only time I want to see pros play this badly is if they're drunk at Homestory Cup.

[@svengalt9546]

Byun was trying to let terran easy mode carry him after he saw the micro at the beginning. It almost worked for him, sadly. Should have been a blowout.

[@MrKenharo]

Thanks for sharing this beautiful NightMare! 😂

[@carlosasiu6032]

Duuuude amazing game!

[@SovaGospodarSnova]

This was such a fun game to watch on company time!

[@icecream6256]

That guy's gameplay is so good. Pretty sure like... all protoss lost at that position ? Not this guy tho !! What a champ

[@yamilabugattas3895]

So many errors and so little drops, was this really Byun? Still a very fun game to watch!

[@thewrongperson676]

Great play from Nightmare

[@지갑텅텅구리]

that storm at the last was so devastating LOL

[@YorkshirePirate]

Wait, Jimmy works for Lowko AND Winter? Mind blown.

[@veloryantrag3239]

Lowko peeps at Dark Tmeplars when they are taking a shower - noted, that's what you meant.

[@JoshuaHLim]

Lol, i bet this game is going to be a Nightmare for Byun to contemplate at night. 😂

[@johnclasing4627]

Wow what a game.

[@juztina7346]

lol those suicide unit to the storm at the last

[@lmactanssc2]

It's been awhile since I watched a game of SC2 that was as enjoyable as this one. WP

[@shanemapplebeck8560]

Beautiful game on a sick day, can't leave bed or the bathroom. But this video is very comforting

[@DarkTemplar42]

Protoss die like anyother living thing. They are turned into dragoons, stalkers,or immortals if they are *criticality* unjured, but not dead. This is how fenix came back in during sc1, but died later on along with tassader and zeratul

[@akiyamach]

This was an amazing dance of units between the most simple and the most advanced. Everything was built and used correctly by the Protoss player and I loved to see it. I might have a new favorite player:Nightmare

[@colinstringer561]

You reading this, how does one keep track of upcoming / ongoing tournaments? One important detail: I'd like to have no spoilers for outcomes of matches that have already been played.

[@sinanx]

always good to see a turtling Terran getting destroyed in the end :)

[@gunkanjima3408]

You just gonna start us off with “spawning here in the top right” and act like nothing happened? 😂

[@Uxi81]

Lowko drinking game! Drink everytime Lowko says one of this expression: Generally speaking Massive Down the drain All his eggs in a basket Feel free to ad yours X)

[@svengalt9546]

Should we add his named units like Jimmy, Probius, and Lenny?

[@Uxi81]

@@svengalt9546 Sounds ok. Anyone can shape the game at will. Certanly adding those one would bring lot of drinking :D

[@daethalion1725]

Shout out to the one high templar that took down a squad of marauders by himself. What a baller.

[@RDG99]

The only protoss to truly die is if they die in cutscenes

[@groovitronic]

This was an incredible game to watch!

[@anandadeb12]

Lowko sounds like an uncle tryna calculate everyone's net worth

[@diegopozotapia2397]

Excellent job from the Protoss player, hope we see more of him in the future!

[@jordonpohl7393]

Love nightmares style ❤️

[@seanlemeow7277]

What a match!

[@muhammadhadi1791]

man see battlecruiser, man click, man happy, man like.

[@thekornreeper]

That was a good one

[@RCG3.]

I can't believe nightmare let him build up like that. Good player but a lot to learn

[@vacekto]

more nightmare pls

[@maximesavard-beaudoin560]

34:00 min i remember this game with harstem but wasnt the same map. i still agree with the static def in mid of map tho

[@lothar3073]

6:15 The micro Protoss has to do to even compete with terran is insane.

[@svengalt9546]

Being up two bases, having map control, killing half a dozen cc's, terran not even thinking of going anywhere on the map until 29 MINUTES IN, it's ridiculous that this game was even this close. terran ez mode keeps proving its self.

[@polca4love]

Protoss having multiple chances of winning the game and not doing it was the thing that made the game close. Average Starcraft fans are so delusional that is not even funny.

[@svengalt9546]

@@polca4love its called turtle for a reason, back to the dunce corner for you

[@polca4love]

​@@svengalt9546 Mirrors are obviously an existential terror for you, my little crybaby.

[@polca4love]

​@@svengalt9546 Well, since the post i wrote pointing out your lack of self awareness has been deleted... Nightmare could have finished the match in quite a big window in whichByun was still weak, and he let the terran turtle, so it's his B that the match was close. But to notice that one should have: A- Watch the video. B- Have ever played the game. Neither of which you have done, obviously.

[@zapoyou2]

When nightmare pylon the pressure I cc two less cc’s

[@snowdrop9810]

I wish nightmare built a bunch of cannon battery + a nexus to spend them excess minerals.. those would be so nice near the tower.

[@adamoz0004]

he really cooked diamond protoss players in 3:10

[@txopin]

Nice cast and nice game. GGWP

[@JussonCypher]

Fantastic game.

[@bldos5362]

that was awesome! 👌

[@TheMasterhomaster]

LowKo eats a COUPLE of boogers for breakfast 🍳

[@anotherplatypus]

That game... your commentary is so damn funny = )

[@AixisAixi]

what a cool game

[@BryanRice800]

Bryan Portillo, been here for several years now 😃

[@whisk5724]

sick match!!

[@icecream6256]

Where is the HEELLLOOO EVERYONE MY NAME IS LOWKO 0:03

[@maddog2314]

The start was so abrupt

[@CubeItself]

we might have entered a new age for protoss, both in the early-mid game and late game

[@fullresolutiongame]

every spell have channeling, just storm is immidiately

[@danielgitau348]

Danke!

[@AndreWill1204]

this game is super fun

[@veloryantrag3239]

Epic game!

[@lefm_]

As a diamond mech terran player, my win rate TvP is close to 30%. Yep, diamond protoss are indeed pretty scare to me.

[@ЯЗеленый-п6б]

As a diamond protoss i have no close to 70% TvP winrate😢. 60% at max in my best. But this is really the most comfortable and understandable for me matchup. Build some stuff, scout, defend, attack. No over expanding economy zerg economy, no canon rush or carriers deathboll. But first of all i have some fun with every game, even in lose strike. That's why im here, not for winning everyone in the world.

[@AlienInSider]

As a Protoss player, I still think APM is a problem for us! It's kind of convenient to be powered by batteries, but the last few months have seen the high APM, like a zerg, messing up all accounts To my dismay, I am not a person with such capabilities… Simply, musically speaking, my fingers are short ;)

[@SimplyDingo]

I genuinely hoped for more StormGate casts. I didn't even knew until I saw a SC2 video and it came to mind. Still love SC2, but damn I'm hyped for more StormGate!

[@mho...]

really weird to see ByuN played with in the first 10ish minutes 🧐

[@JCDenton2097]

great game

[@essen9329]

Crazy good game

[@M0r7r3d0r]

I arrive at work on lunch break. You have offended me sir

[@brandonfinlay655]

tourny idea. Single Use best of 5 or 7 or something where they actually have to struggle a bit lol Can only use each combat unit once throughout the series. (queens, overlords dont count, dropships and queen marches etc do) using a locked unit to morph in a later game is fine offensive static defence also counts. (probe rush etc) Id love to see this at the pro lvl.

[@ataleofvalor]

this is monobattles in the arcade

[@Cesard.verdugak]

Hay to see ByUn loose, but nightmare out played him for most of the game.

[@Erebus2075]

34:01 "and very cleaver". i agree been commenting heavily on his and your channel about that setup for some time now, and why only one? use them like recall stations and defensive post. P static is the strongest ingame and they use it the least and worse off all

[@rattusgrenadus8291]

The people demand you cast serral v clem from ESL the other day

[@indy8006]

nightmare actually kept replenishing his templars, it happens way too often that pro players build 4 or 5 of them, use storms, make them into archons...and then you never see templars again

[@velocirapper]

Macro diamond toss, what i do mostly is die 😂

[@Kirk.television]

Let's go!

[@User-DogFather02]

Zerg. More Zerg..... all the time Zerg.

[@tamateraipea6473]

Hahah Ive been to master league (NA) protoss with only DT rush and canon rush ten year agoes. And i was pretty bad after it fail or anything else.

[@NoName-kf1cy]

That was beautiful play by nightmare! Unbelievable don't think that was byunn tho

[@NoName-kf1cy]

Maybe byunn was coaching sitting right next to them

[@binkibonko69]

The Chad Cheeser with a 55% win rate wraps up victories in 7 minutes per game: 18 games×7 minutes per game=126 minutes18 games×7 minutes per game=126 minutes On the other hand, the Virgin Macro Player boasts a 65% win rate but spends a substantial 20 minutes per game: 100.65≈15.38 games0.6510​≈15.38 games 15.38 games×20 minutes per game≈307.7 minutes15.38 games×20 minutes per game≈307.7 minutes Despite the higher win rate, the Virgin Macro Player invests significantly more time to secure the same net gain of 10 wins compared to the Chad Cheeser. In the pursuit of maximizing points within the same playtime, the Chad Cheeser's strategy of finishing games quickly with a decent win rate proves to be more time-efficient. TL;DR Not cheesing is a literal waste of time on ladder and as long as it's even slightly viable it's literally 3 times better than macro for gaining MMR

[@grittytheg5077]

Any actual biological unit gets warped back to try to save the warrior's life even if it doesn't always end up saving them. They did this because their population isn't that large which is why there are also so many mechanical units/cyborgs in the protoss army

[@boyPobre]

this aint byun or hes hangover and just woke up while playing with mouse only 😂

[@mysteryblankdspace4342]

It would be nice if zealots were immune to storm...standard or upgrade

[@polca4love]

Storm is powerful as it is. That would make it broken, i think.

[@svengalt9546]

Even with the position he is in at the 26 minute mark, I am going to bet that Nightmare is still going to get beat by terran easy mode. Absolutely ridiculous that terran can hold a mineral income advantage while being down TWO bases. And trading less efficient. Please prove me wrong, game.

[@svengalt9546]

Aaaaaaaand the only time byun goes onto the map is at 29 minutes? Ok, game.

[@spaaggetii]

Protoss units die, then become Dragoons, but somehow they forgot to add them in to Starcraft 2, so they are just handing out waiting for a Dragoon to run along. True story, heard it from my SC1 days. Don't ask me why those almost Dragoons, are not Dragoons, and can blink. No one knows. Not even the Protoss.

[@spaaggetii]

EDIT : Yeah they are added but not in the general gameplay, had to add this before someone told me they are uh huh yep right :)

[@IagreeY3pp]

Only one of the players is named in the video title. I wonder who wins 😂

[@Kagutsuchi4]

Only reason why Terran lost was cause Protoss was up 10,000 minerals and 4,000 gas over the Terran and still had to engage carefully or he'd instantly lose his entire army.

[@irrelevantfish1978]

Untrue. Nightmare was also trading more efficiently through most (if not all) of the game and was either prepared for or immediately adapted to ByuN's tech swaps. Additionally, the only reason he was up on resources is because he played better. He maintained map control for a very long time, allowing him to expand quickly, and made a strategically sound decision the highest-ranked players almost never do: he went for resources on his opponent's side of the map early, well before they became neighbors. _Why_ top-tier pros don't do that, I cannot fathom. As Lowko said, split-maps often go wrong against Terran, because it's so hard to get any mining done when they're turtling next door. In the recent ESL alone, both Serral and Dark lost maps to Clem because of that.

[@polca4love]

Nightmare won because he was better and did things mostly at the right time. The only "but" is that he should have closed the game sooner; he had quite a window to do that. In any case, he played quite well.

[@seenone6924]

Please turn the game sound on bro