Loyal Gordon vs Traitor Gordon - BATMAN Season 2 The Enemy Within Episode 5: Same Stitch

[@destinynoir2004]

Joker: What hospital? We blew it up remember? *gets flashback of Joker from the dark knight destroying the hospital*

[@Unknown_Zlayr2406]

hahaha wearing a nurse outfit

[@Cosmicmorales]

I feel like that's what they were trying to do with this Joker but failed miserably.

[@PinkiePie45838283734666o9]

@@Cosmicmorales Are u a sigma male?

[@arnavbhattacharjee2035]

I never thought we'd find a worthy successor to Mark Hamill's Joker voice, but here we are.

[@Axel_Kasai]

It took a while to get used to, but it works :p

[@arnavbhattacharjee2035]

@@Axel_Kasai For real though, Anthony Ingruber captured everything about Mark Hamill's Joker without sacrificing his more modern take on the character; you can hear Hamill's Joker in the pronunciations, the tone, the inflections, and more. It's quite amazing.

[@Dryboneszero]

Look up John DiMaggio’s Joker. He did an amazing job.

[@borahcn]

What about Troy?

[@MistahJay7]

I love this Joker but I wouldnt say a Mark Hamill impression. This was totally new Troy Baker is the worthy successor to Mark Hamill Imo

[@airvore2319]

In this fight batman cant even defend himself against a few unarmed thugs but in arkham knight he fought off thousands of thugs

[@mr.b8780]

DDM isbae "unarmed" see I don't think thugs with steel pipes, bats and AK47's are unarmed.

[@mr.b8780]

Maxson yes, I suppose this is true... He WAS a beast in Arkham Knight.

[@spicycurry1146]

It's because arkham knight is near the end of batmans "life". In the telltale series, he is much newer to his job

[@DrSPF23]

DDM isbae Doesn't it make Batman un relatable if he can beat up dozens of armed men easily, you know the thing Batman fans usually say is a problem with Superman.

[@the_sam_strong]

DDM isbae in the arkham series Batman doesn't even look human, but more like a robot. Also he is basically Superman in those games, they want me to believe that he fights a million of enemies solving a million of problems during the same night without ever getting tired or injured... You gotta be kidding me, in no comic Batman is so OP. Anyway they nerfed Batman pretty badly in villain's path if you take vigilante's path Batman is way more powerful and is still able to fight and defeat Joker after getting impaled and with an injured leg and broken ribs, just by taking few pain killers. In villain's path instead just because he had a concussion after being hit on the head from Harley's hammer as Bruce, he is so disoriented later on that he can't even fight few Joker's thugs... I don't buy it, it was clearly an excuse to let Joker kidnap Batman so that we could play as Bruce for the rest of the episode in villain's path. That's why I decided to pick vigilante's path as my canon playthrough, villain's path is so forced and disappointing compared to the vigilante's one.

[@the_sam_strong]

Vigilante's path is so much better, Batman looks way stronger and is able to fight even while heavily injured, while here instead a few thugs are enough to defeat him just because he suffered from a concussion after being hit in the head from Harley's hammer as Bruce. Also it doesn't make any sense that Gordon hasn't even a bit of faith in Batman and decides to betray him just so he can have the bombs location from Joker. He used to say that Batman was essential for the security of the city and suddenly he completely changes his mind in villain's path and blames Batman for Gotham's new criminals and even betrays him with no troubles. Villain's path is so forced and disappointing...

[@TopQuality15]

The Strong Jim ONLY betrays if Batman isn't nice to him at the crime scene in episode 5. So it depends how you act towards him. It's all about building relationships with characters, didn't you get it?

[@drdino2002]

@@TopQuality15 coulda sworn it depended on your choice between Eli and mori

[@MagSnapShots]

Yes, Vigilante is definitely more organic in terms of narrative flow in the game.

[@the_sam_strong]

@@TopQuality15 Gordon betrays Batman either way in villain's path. The only difference is that he comes help you with the thugs if you are friend with him, but he still sells you out to Joker to have the bomb locations.

[@youtubemademakethis6449]

Yeah it's just telltales poor writing at work. They constantly contradict the character building they have done to create conflict. They can't hold a candle to games like heavy rain for instance.

[@aidancoutts2341]

I spent so much time being nice to Jim and doing anything he wanted. Then he's like "Catwoman needs to go to prison" (even though she helped us in the debate attack in season 1) And if you warn her which Gordon could never really prove was you, he acts like your some evil man who never agrees with him.

[@UstaRobinHood]

a little worse version of Kenny from walking dead

[@toast8851]

Usta RobinHood don’t compare Gordon to the mvp Kenny

[@UstaRobinHood]

why not? I like the both of them because of their similar personalities. They act like the old man who only needs loyalty and will eventually be your best friend.

[@toast8851]

Usta RobinHood True But I feel like Kenny was a kind man who lost everything but he still cared for clementine

[@UstaRobinHood]

Gordon is a good man too. He made a mistake by betraying batman but all he wanted was Gotham's safety.

[@jediqueer6162]

This fight was... honestly sort of unbelievable given the shit Batman does in the other games, comics, and even earlier in the Telltale series. He should have won fairly easily. Like he doesn't even use any gadgets in this fight.

[@bennyboi3351]

Well he was new to being batman still and he was distracted by Gordon being hurt.

[@gogetathestrongestfusion]

​@@bennyboi3351he whooped bane ass and several other enemies it is strange batman was overwhelmed so easily

[@trevorphilips9065]

@@gogetathestrongestfusionDude Batman got his head hit with a sledge hammer he was in no condition to fight here

[@s.o.k.1393]

Who would win? A batman who fights criminals all the time, who has taken out tens of heavily armed and trained fighters with one hand or a few bois

[@Khalfrank]

Even though Joker's real name remains unknown, his "John Doe" persona is like a pseudo-real name and Batman calling him "John" makes you realizes as Joker doesn't call him "Bruce" and expose his identity just goes to show that Joker is IRONICALLY A BIGGER MAN than Batman.

[@MrButtScratcher1]

Khalfrank I mean, Gotham's a big city but anyone can figure out who's the crazy green haired pale face pointy chinned villain when there's only one person that looks like that

[@rayul8246]

Jokers real name is John Nappier

[@Jackaxed]

to be FAIR it's not like john is taking any pains to hide his identity

[@stopwritingthatreplyjohnat6638]

MrButtScratcher1 guess that’s why nobody knows who joker is

[@stopwritingthatreplyjohnat6638]

Levi Ackerman no it isn’t. Usually it’s Jack White most times his name shows up

[@blue1133]

That's really going to leave a mark in batman's reputation as being feared by criminals, i imagine those thugs after beating batman's ass like: "Hey! We just encountered that bat-freak everyone is talking about, he's not big deal, just me and a few guys were needed to put him on the ground, he's not that scary or strong after all."

[@monauralsnail0669]

I think Batman wouldn’t feel punched from normal humans because for his suit and that the suit would definitely protect from tasers and similar electric personal defense weapons

[@gaminganimators7000]

4:56 Nice Dark Knight reference

[@sumann3832]

It isn't one...

[@xx_rai510_xx3]

Oh it is remember the tv scene?

[@yaboispider_6419]

You meant 5:56

[@xx_rai510_xx3]

Ultimate Fortnite Games both of those ones

[@artycassy]

Yeah, I was shocked when my Gordon betrayed me, but I was flipping impressed. 👍🏻

[@barryy6680]

I think he's a traitor in both outcomes.

[@jamishmcquo7590]

1:47 *puts hands together* *WHUUUUUUUUUUOOOOMMMMPPPPPHHHHH* WTF WAS THAT SOUND EFFECT LOL

[@mortalkombatant8771]

I think batman would have put up more of a fight then that he is supposed to be able to take on 70 guys at once.

[@humanskinnergames4520]

Member penguin guys 40 of the cunts vs me I won but my thumb was swollen

[@stanxlv]

My friend can't even fight 4 bullies in school on her own.

[@mortalkombatant8771]

@@stanxlv plot twist your one of the bullies 😂

[@stanxlv]

@@mortalkombatant8771 ...

[@JayKay51431]

"he is supposed to be able to take on 70 guys at one time" Lol, I'm sorry but the way you worded that....

[@Whimsy3692]

Guys. Telltale just wanted to have Batman curled up in a ball, just to call back to the time when Bruce and John first met in Arkham (if you've even played the first game). It's supposed to kind of make you feel bad for treating him so badly and for turning him into a villain. It's as if to say, "See what you've done? Who will save you, now? Your friend is no longer here." To have a friendship that's both come so far, and fall so far. So. Enough about the "logistics" about having the strength or skill to take on these thugs. It wasn't a "logistics" thing. It was an emotional thing to put into the story.

[@RobertsonIsland]

Also he got hit in the head with a sledgehammer like an hour before this as bruce so, yeah, concussion

[@MistahJay7]

Batman being beat by those thugs and held down makes ZERO SENSE LOL

[@TrilexMM]

That's right

[@Cosmicmorales]

Ur absolutely right, he was able to take out 8 of harvey’s goons in the manor in the first season while his tech was malfunctioning

[@Cosmicmorales]

@Unknown what does him being in Wayne Manor gotta do with anything?? he's Batman for God’s sake.

[@Cosmicmorales]

@Unknown and before that he was able to take out at least 8 guards with no problem

[@Cosmicmorales]

@Unknown he only waited till the last minute to do that

[@user-ox2bj3jj2m]

I am glad that I was not the only one who was disappointed with Batman's vulnerability in the villain route. But I get the inclination of the writers to probe more into John/Bruce's relationship before the change.

[@_Spy_]

Oh my god John was caught off guard in the thumbnail!

[@xiaominote4495]

Why he just can't fly on the roof by the hook? And then throw something from the top to thugs.

[@kenroykentish4641]

Jim was always gonna betray Batman either way regardless it will be interesting to see what their relationship will be like in Season 3

[@ans-junior1043]

U think season 3 is gonna come out

[@lilschills7001]

telltale shut down. there wont be a season 3😭

[@kenroykentish4641]

@@lilschills7001 telltale games came back google it if you think I'm lying

[@ans-junior1043]

@@kenroykentish4641 they actually did

[@PinkiePie45838283734666o9]

They are shut down, but make games incognito. Look at Wolf Among Us 2.

[@clevergeek2632]

Batman vs the purge

[@NKGAMING-ri4qm]

i really wish there was a good ending to the viglante john where he doesnt become the bad guy in the end and actually stays as batmans partner

[@EMPZon]

2:15 how did he throw a growm man like that,how is it even posible?

[@seer4049]

He's batman

[@ashmeetsingh5215]

@@seer4049 the better way is because he is batman.

[@Cosmicmorales]

The power of martial arts.

[@GrimReaperZ00]

I just see that it went the same way in both choices :/

[@ILUV-NV-B.B-BCS]

I don’t think he’s a traitor in any outcome, his hands were tied, and he still helps Batman in the fight no matter what and he also apologises no matter what

[@user-vo5sb]

Oh joker has schizophrenia confirmed. Just see his behaviour.

[@mikehaggar9803]

SUPLEX CITY 2:28 12:03

[@MistahJay7]

Were the Writers not clever enough to have Joker have traps set up for Batman like he usually would if they wanted the whole funhouse scenario and Joker getting him captured? Random thugs beating up batman is just not gona work......weak sauce

[@TheGAL47]

Yeah I never got it batman knows 300 or so different fighting style yet he can never beat a few thugs? They shouldn't even be able to touch him.

[@RobertsonIsland]

He got hit pretty hard in the head with a sledgehammer like an hour before this

[@MistahJay7]

@@RobertsonIsland Lmao like we haven't seen batman fight through worst. Also in vigilante he gets imaped and nearly dies but still is way more OP in that playthrough Forced situation here if you tell me.

[@RobertsonIsland]

@@MistahJay7 well yeah, but hes usually in full tactical armor not just his naked head getting slammed by steel

[@MistahJay7]

@@RobertsonIsland Full tactical armor? What are you talking about lol batman is in his Bat suit while fighting off the random thugs. He has all his gadgets at his disposal to here. I really feel like the writers should have had Joker set traps in Ace chemicals and thats how he catches batman just like how he would in the shows. Not getting beat up by 4 of his thugs lol that never works

[@RobertsonIsland]

@@MistahJay7 the batsuit is the full tactical armor im referring to. Like getting hit in the head with nothing on is a lot worse than getting hit in the head with a combat helmet on, which is essentially what the cowl is in this version

[@grungusjarvis9413]

🃏 Please Don't Hurt Him, He's Our Friend You're Our Friend John.

[@brianhodge9118]

Man, Gordon was really unlikable in this game.

[@justincruz5720]

He didn’t have many options.

[@Cosmicmorales]

tf you mean

[@t.j.mfilms3277]

I think it’s stupid how there’s no way to prevent Jim from getting shot

[@Lyserus]

The last game Telltale will probably ever finish...*sign

[@Emeowy]

this is season 2 episode 5 dude

[@Lyserus]

@@Emeowy So? with telltale gone there won't be a season 3

[@Emeowy]

then its finished

[@Emeowy]

if season 3 never starts that means season 2 was the ending dude

[@Lyserus]

@@Emeowy That's...exactly what I mean?

[@pyramid6782]

In the arkham games batman can beat up like 25 inmates and 2 ones infected with titan and he might get some hits But in the telltale series he can't beat up like 8 or 9 joker thugs

[@pyramid6782]

Thomas Harnett go F urself

[@Kronosfobi]

They actually dont defie phiscs. DC has diffrent rules for that. Besides even if he couldnt beat 25 inmate, He still should be able to kick 10 thugs ass. He got trained in diffrent fighting styles, He got lots of experience, he got a super armour. He should be able to beat them two eyes closed!

[@the_sam_strong]

kevin king200 they nerfed Batman pretty badly in villain's path just so we could play as Bruce the rest of the episode, play vigilante's path, Batman looks way stronger there and is able to fight and defeat Joker and his gang even after getting impaled, with an injured leg and broken ribs.

[@the_sam_strong]

Thomas Harnett he used to one shot most of the thugs he fought in the other episodes and in season 1, it doesn't make any sense that he can't handle those few thugs here they simply needed a way to make us play as Bruce for the rest of the episode in villain's path so they nerfed Batman here.

[@Kronosfobi]

He could beat 9 thugs with bats. Because there are tons of martial arts that show you how to defend yourself especially against armed people. A man that knows almost every single fighting style would be able to defeat them pretty easly.

[@skyfaller3d417]

Where's the background music?

[@imanonymous8177]

Yo wtf Gordon looks just like sully from uncharted drakes fortune at 4:17

[@-hasamastersdegreeinwumbol8565]

Its not the same actor, is it? Sounds similar, I think.

[@elderking2063]

Dude in Arkham City Batman had to fight like 30 People . In this he can't fight probably 9 people

[@K-One582]

What pisses me off even more about this is that earlier on in the telltale series, they showed Batman handle himself well. Then all of a sudden he loses to random thugs? They should've at least been consistent or show Batman suffering from a previous injury that caused him to lose.

[@Thetreng]

​@@K-One582 I think because he was focused on Jim who couldn't defend himself, and it distracted him

[@bgonnat]

Joker and Batman just talking back and fourth jokers army’s are probably like when are we gonna shoot him my legs hurt

[@mikanawesome]

Batman literally got bodied by 6 dudes? That's some bs

[@Cosmicmorales]

Thats why the writing in this season is garbage he was able to take out at least 8 of harvey’s goons at the manor in the first season.

[@Spalbeert]

But i dont get why there are like 15 Of Jokers Gunman and later at the tea party only 2 ? They should have atleast had 6 Gunman protecting them

[@jamesgreen9712]

Whats the difference? He'll betray you in both outcomes

[@RobertsonIsland]

He almost does in the first but can’t go through with it

[@JabamiLain]

He tried to break all my ties, but failed rather miserably. None betrayed me, and I didn't betray them in return. And I gave up being Batman for Alfred. He was completely and utterly defeated in his ultimate goal.

[@HazWolverine]

This game was great but I wished it had enabled players to do un-Batman like things. It would have been great if they let players kill the Joker in a brutal manner.

[@ahmadanees4233]

Then i wouldn't have been called "Batman"

[@HazWolverine]

Thats the fun-aspect of a choice based game.

[@-hasamastersdegreeinwumbol8565]

@@HazWolverine I can see how that could have worked. I wouldn't have chosen that option, but it would be interesting to have the choice.

[@RobertsonIsland]

I like in the first one how you can break that guys arm for no reason and impale falcone on a pole

[@channel45853]

​@@ahmadanees4233why not, Batman kills in Telltale games. He killed those three guys who tried to kill Selina when you had to choose to save her or Harley. And he didn't even regret it.

[@nov934]

I don’t like this because Jim gets hurt and this is the Waller ending

[@cazabrow1967]

lol which is which he does the same thing just differently.

[@DrOofX]

Why is there no background music

[@nathansentertainmentnews6971]

Thy WasamelonZ copyright reasons and claims

[@sheilamartinez4307]

If you warn cat woman about Gordon coming after her, does Gordon betray you, and if you don’t warn her, do you find him beaten up?

[@sheilamartinez4307]

Ee Kwang so how what makes Gordon betray batman?

[@andrewaigalew]

@@sheilamartinez4307 repeatedly choosing to aid waller and using her methods, and betraying the gcpd to protect Catwoman will result in traitor Gordon

[@Hei-BK201]

@@andrewaigalew Wait I'm so confused in my gameplay everything is fine about joker why would he be your enemy? Is it helping the agency instead of the gcpd means betraying Gordon and betraying joker?

[@Hei-BK201]

@@andrewaigalew How do u get the villains path

[@andrewaigalew]

@@Hei-BK201 im not sure what you're talking about either. There isn't a set villain path as you put it. These can occur even if Joker does or doesn't turn on you.

[@ILUV-NV-B.B-BCS]

The villain path in this game is so sad

[@JabamiLain]

He tried to break all my ties, but failed rather miserably. None betrayed me, and I didn't betray them in return. And I gave up being Batman for Alfred. He was completely and utterly defeated in his ultimate goal.

[@Hei-BK201]

first of all why can't batman beat those many thugs but he can beat bane normal bane like normal bane is like 25 thugs yet he cant beat them meaning he got nerfed

[@bluetaco4914]

How do you trigger these?

[@regalcartoon5932]

Wait, is this seriously in the game. Is it crazy that I have no memory of this scene. Not once have I experienced it. So, is this the villain Joker version or something. Because I go vigilante Joker every time. I also always side with Gordon, if that has anything to do with it.

[@TrilexMM]

If you choose vigilante then yes this in the game if you choose villian

[@regalcartoon5932]

@@TrilexMM Ah, thank you.

[@thunderbat3782]

So is the first one loyal and the second one traitor

[@branndonpage3919]

Lmao why this Batman weak if this was Arkham Batman he would’ve had all of em dropped

[@Axel_Kasai]

Cuz the telltale story takes place when batman was still a newb

[@luis_barral]

How does not be betrayed by Gordon?

[@gogetathestrongestfusion]

Pretty stupid batman didn't inform the agency or anyone for back up

[@brandongoodin6872]

Is The First One loyal or the second outcome? I'm confused..

[@6sols988]

Brandon Goodin 1st one is definitely evil😂😂

[@euegenethethird6785]

I hate when people say “Telltale Batman is supposed to be more realistic which is why he lost”. What exactly is “realistic” about this series? Bruce literally ran up a wall while dodging a machine gun, Batman can throw goons into each other with one arm, and the guns the agency uses are straight out of a sci-fi movie. Telltale wrote this scene in for plot convenience, nothing more. They clearly couldn’t think of anything better or were constrained by time, money, or something else. If they had established Batman lost due to the impact of Harley Quinn’s hammer earlier in the episode, then sure, I think this scene would have made more sense. After all, Batman appeared to be a little disoriented in my opinion in this fight, but I didn’t see that he was suffering from brain trauma. In short, saying Batman lost because “Telltale Batman is more realistic” is dumb, and Telltale’s writing in their games needed more work (in my opinion).

[@twenity8852]

JIM! MY NIGGA DAWG

[@rebenbalen826]

Batman Arkham Knight duel takedown with Gordon?

[@seed2592]

I purchased all the season pact but it not please help me guys

[@commentingguy3332]

How do I get traitor Jim

[@pokeliteral]

Commenting Guy you have to get villain joker

[@ILikeCreepyStuff]

I don't care if John doe is good it evil, I love him

[@patriousthefallenknight3185]

i wish i had a gang of people with clown masks to fight Antifa. could you imagine the head lines?!

[@brucesmith2143]

Badass

[@teslawolverine7009]

Batman being both sloppy and dumb

[@yasinsirin3313]

JİM

[@danielshin9036]

P

[@gaminganimators7000]

5:58 Nice Dark Knight reference

[@nathansentertainmentnews6971]

Not just a reference they blew up the hospital in this episode