LPG Conversion in 8 minutes - '08 SUBARU FORESTER 2.0X * LPGTech Install *

This is the short version video of an LPG conversion of a car just to give you an idea of what the whole process is like.
Liquefied Petroleum Gas is often used for powering up cars, vans, buses.
The conversion process is in fact installing a second fueling system that is able to substitute the original fuel of a petrol powered car. This is done at the touch of a button by the driver and from using petrol or gasoline (gas), as they say in the US, the car stars burning LPG as it runs.
The system consists of a fuel tank, filling device, hoses, reducer, injectors, computer, switch over button and some cables.
Enjoy!
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[@FixItYerself]

hard to find a video where someone explains how it's all connected. Thanks for the looking forward to the voiceover

[@mitchoniauto]

Hi. I am preparing another video or two of other installations and I intend on doing a voice over so that I can explain some of the steps. I will do my best to include the diagram for the connections. If you have something in mind you can ask me.

[@FixItYerself]

​@mitchoniauto did you run hoses from the injectors into the intake? Usually I see injectors going into the intake. Still learning about this system tho

[@bigboy9983]

I had my 06 forester converted to LPG 15 years ago. Done 200k on it.

[@peterhoughton1731]

Any problems? and at what miles was it converted?

[@bigboy9983]

@@peterhoughton1731 Done 200.000 kms. Didn’t have the upper cylinder head lubricant system rigged up at first. Got head issues with it later on. Replaced the heads with new gas heads, lubricant kit. Got a new timing chain, radiator,water pump, hoses, brakes, etc. Spent 6k. Good as gold now.

[@peterhoughton1731]

@@bigboy9983 I have a 2005 Honda s2000 which as only done 38k miles since new, converted to Dual fuel LPG at 19kmiles, professional job done. No problems other than a recent PO172 running rich code which also happens on petrol. I was told s2000's didn't need the upper cylinder lube system by the professional installer but I'm tempted to get one fitted now.

[@pikachus5m166]

@@peterhoughton1731 Is that the V-Tech engine?, thought Lpg systems weren't compatible with variable valve systems.

[@peterhoughton1731]

Yes its V-TEC, runs fine. Revs to 9000rpm on gas just like it doe on petrol.@@pikachus5m166

[@TrueHelpTV]

well made, keep at it

[@ManitaHoltrop]

I was excited to hear It could be done in 8 minutes but I think this would take me a week - if at all :/

[@mitchoniauto]

Haha :) It took me actually 2 full days to comlete this installation but the clip I made turned out to be just 8 minutes and 6 second total :)))

[@goransvraka3171]

@@mitchoniauto hey question if I do this could I use the gas inuse at home for heating and cooking to fuel up my car? I mean why go to a petrol station and pay extra to fuel up your car when you are already paying for gas at home

[@tastytechaddictsmtb]

@@goransvraka3171 you’re confusing lpg with natural gas. Two entirely different things

[@mitchoniauto]

@@goransvraka3171 You have LPG (Liquefied Petroleum Gas) at the fuel station which is a waste product in a way from producing gasoline and diesel and it is stored at 10-12 bar (145-174 PSI). The gas at home is actually Methane (Natural Gas) which is available at some fuel station for powering up cars as CNG (Compressed Natural Gas) but it is stored at around 200 bar (2900 PSI !!!!!) in the fuel tank in the car which could be rather unsafe and dangerous.

[@michaelscafe2818]

I'm curious, how much advantage is there in this injection setup compared to using the old tech version which is evaporator and mixer? Is the fuel economy notably better, and if so, how much?

[@mitchoniauto]

The main advantage of this setup is that you do not have a big body (intake manifold and tubes) full of flammable and explosive mixture. The fuel (LPG) is delivered right next to the original petrol injectors in small quantities and thus eliminates the risks of explosion. The fuel economy is also better since the idea of the fuel injection is preserved. The evaporator-mixer idea is pretty much an LPG carburetor. :)

[@gabakusa]

Where do you buy that kit ?

[@theoxygen876]

Man wish you were saying something, just talk through the video, I got nothing out of the video bro, and I DESPERATELY NEED TO KNOW IF I CAN USE THIS ON MY CAR

[@mitchoniauto]

Hello, my friend, I am right here and will try to answer all your questions and hopefully give you some advice. I will make videos in the future in which I explain every step of installation.

[@theoxygen876]

@@mitchoniauto Thanks for responding bro, I really would love to set this up on my 2004 sonata, Is it possible you can give me a listing or a link to to all the things that I would need to purchase?

[@AnEverydayGamer]

@@theoxygen876 Damn

[@theoxygen876]

@@AnEverydayGamer I'm not sure how to process that response but I wish you and your family a great day.

[@LunaWaves]

​@@theoxygen876use chat gpt. people are useless

[@benjamengabriellewis8818]

Can you help me figure this all out, I can’t outright buy a full kit. What’s each coponent called within the kit? (I have a 2004 Buick century 6 cylinder I want to convert). Thank you for this video and your time.

[@FixItYerself]

Ecu, injectors, toroidal tank, hose, switch, filling connector, indicators

[@yasenpetrov99]

Your hoses and cables pass across the hot collector which over time may melt them.

[@mitchoniauto]

Hi there! What do you mean by "hot collectors"? Where do you see that?

[@yasenpetrov99]

@@mitchoniauto I think this part is called the manifold. Sorry for my poor English.

[@mitchoniauto]

@@yasenpetrov99 no problem, I understand you. But the thing is SUBARUs have their exhaust manifolds below the engine since they are flat engines. Can you give me the exact time in the video where you see a problem? Thanks! Cheers!

[@freaky6521]

Hey mate, From Australia and thinking of buying a cheap forester as a run around and wanting to do an LPG conversion on it so I had a couple questions. What size LPG tank did you manage to fit in this Forester? What sort of fuel economy does your mate get with LPG? What ECU would you recommend? (I'm thinking ALEX Nano) Cheers!

[@mitchoniauto]

Hey mate! Sorry for this late reply. The LPG tank is 56 litres and at 80% it holds around 45-46 litres. Fuel economy is like 11-12 litres per 100 km. What is the price difference over there with you?

[@OnnieKoski]

Does it switch between fuels or just supplement the gasoline?

[@mitchoniauto]

Hi! This whole system mimics the petrol injection system and actually replaces the fuel completely. When the LPG reducer reaches a high enough temp (35 degrees Celsius) the LPG computer switches off the petrol injectors and swithes on the LPG ones. When there is no high pressure (threshold can be adjusted) in the LPG rubber lines this means the LPG fuel is getting low and all is swithced back to petrol automatically.

[@u.e.u.e.]

Please cover the screws and clamps for the LPG-line (under the car) with black under-protection.

[@mitchoniauto]

Why do you think this is necessary?

[@u.e.u.e.]

@@mitchoniauto Rust prevention.

[@martin518441]

Why would you put the ecu behind the reducer , over time excessive heat can damage the ecu (mainly drivers for the petrol injector emulation and gas injector control)

[@mitchoniauto]

Hi there! Nowhere in the engine bay is cold. Excessive heat may be present only around the exhaust manifold. For sure there is no more heat behind the reducer than anywhere else since the reducer operates at engine temps and even lower because it has to heat up the flow of LPG at all times.

[@martin518441]

@@mitchoniauto Take a thermal camera and look behind the reducer and compare it to where the car's ecu is normally , there is a big difference even after just popping the bonnet of an engine that has been running for a while, there's a reason why decent ecu housings are made from aluminum and have some sorts of fins on it to work as some sort of thermal dissipation

[@TheSuperBoyProject]

Is it advised to do this in an engine with 1100 cc displacement?

[@mitchoniauto]

Sure! No problem at all. I have converted a 3 cylinder 1000 cc Daihatsu Sirion and the guy was absolutely happy with the car and it is still driven by another person.

[@Pleksilasi]

does this kit fit my lexus rx? ofc mine is 6 cylinder but other than that it should work right?

[@Wookiemonsterfreak]

How does the modern computer handle the conversation? Operate as usual?

[@mitchoniauto]

Actually the whole idea is to make the car petrol ECU 'think' that the engine is continuing operating on the original fuel ( petrol, gasoline, benzine ).

[@rahmadhadi8195]

whether it is necessary to shrink the air duct

[@mitchoniauto]

It is definitely not necessary. This is and old trick used a long time ago with old conventional/vaporizer systems with carburettor engines. With this set-up the engine operates just like on the original fuel - petrol (gasoline).

[@googlelimp9834]

i was looking forward to this but didn't a thing of what doing so guess I cant do it now

[@gary4904]

Do you think you could use this as an affordable performance ECU? Since you can connect a laptop and tune it.

[@mitchoniauto]

I little late answer to your question but I think it might be used for that. Maybe if the car is a turbocharged one. I can actually try this on an AUDI A3 that belongs to a friend of mine. It is a 1.8 Turbo.

[@mcse2k3]

How you put lpg injections in order_? 3-4 1-2 or 2-4 1-3 thanks.

[@mitchoniauto]

The thing is that the LPG injection systems mimics the gasoline one 1:1. The goal is to make everything right and fool the ECU that engine still runs on the factory fuel (gasoline). So the installation is important, components are important and settings of the LPG computer are also important. To answer your question: the ones on the right engine side are 1-3 and the ones on the left side are 2-4 (like the gasoline ones).

[@mcse2k3]

@@mitchoniauto I think you wrote the order when you look engine from inside ,from front looking the firing order/lpg injections order should be 3-4 1-2. The point is we have just installed lpg system(2003 forester xt) and there is a small lag/shake in first move,when pushing gas pedal in LPG in delays/shakes like 1 second then moves on,but in high speed there is no problem. We are thinking there is wrong order in installation like from front; 2-4 1-3( we think problem will be solved when they change 2-3 order like up) Do you have any idea why this lag could happen? Sparks newly changed,coils seems fine because there is no problem in gasoine,only LPG have this lag/shake in first move. Thanks

[@mitchoniauto]

If there is some wrong wiring in injectors you will have bigger shakes in engine. Since ignition system in 2003 Subi is not coil-on-plug you may have to check the high voltage cables from ignition coil to spark plugs.

[@mcse2k3]

@@mitchoniauto Thanks but XT engines doesn't have cables between coil-plugs :) www.subaruyedekparcalari.com/forester-atesleme-bobini-20cc-20-xt-2003-2005-pmu803

[@chrisolbrycht9858]

What do you think about grand caravan is it good engine to convert?

[@mitchoniauto]

I am not familiar with this engine to be honest, but as far as I can see there is no reason for it not to be suitable for conversion. The LPG tank will occupy some space since the van is a 7 seater.

[@chrisolbrycht9858]

@@mitchoniauto thx

[@mahendralama9489]

Hi there I have just installed LPG system, problem I am having is after 15 20 km driving Yellow light flash with sound and turn back to petrol ⛽️ mode. When turn of the engine and turn on it become normal condition. It’s happened again and again. What could be the problem anyone have idea ? Thank you

[@mitchoniauto]

Hello! What is the electronics of the LPG system? What does it say when you connect a laptop to it? These usually have pretty good diagnostic messages.

[@mahendralama9489]

@@mitchoniauto thank you for reply. First and second day bit problem after next day completely fine. Very happy with the results. Feels like I should have done long time back.

[@MyZhiyuan]

Would your engine run hotter since there is no fuel going to cool the engine after the conversion?

[@mitchoniauto]

There is a theory that it might run a little hotter on LPG but I haven't noticed such a thing on any of the cars I have converted.

[@tankcrazy8513]

@@mitchoniauto where are you located convert mine

[@chadyaknow5690]

What's the manufacturer of the lpg kit? Have you had any issues?

[@mitchoniauto]

No issues. The car is being driven every day by a close friend of mine. The parts in the kit were actually selected by me from a local LPG parts shop. These are LPG reducer, LPG injectors, LPG tubes and hoses, LPG electronics, LPG tank and LPG filler.

[@thonyllo]

The reducer should never be installed in that orientation. He should have installed rotated by 90°

[@mitchoniauto]

I cannot agree with that. This was true for the old style installations where the Reducer is a Vaporizer and there the pressure is very little. ;)

[@espadasmoran]

Any knocks? or they have been reduced?

[@mitchoniauto]

Knocks? From the conversion? No, not at all! LPG as a fuel is more knock-resitant than gasoline since it has more than 100 octane rating.

[@rkseelochun4752]

How to adjust the pressure of lpg so that to match the air:fuel mixture?

[@walidamiranabcha9517]

The software will do the job via the lpg ecu

[@fireintheforest5062]

Hi bro Where did you order the system from?and how much is it?

[@mitchoniauto]

I bought it from a local LPG shop in my town. It was like 600 Euros.

[@koevoet7288]

How big is the HP loss?

[@mitchoniauto]

I do not notice any but I intend to do a dyno runs on a few converted cars with different power to have it proven and on paper :)))

[@lancelotdoe1]

I want to install this in my Jeep compass 2007. How do I get the installation kits here in Ghana

[@mitchoniauto]

I actually don't know. I have put a link somewhere here to an online LPG shop as an example.

[@MiddleforestDH]

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[@mitchoniauto]

Nice comment man! Thanks! Chak puk mrasen, a i nali posle shte se izmia...

[@MiddleforestDH]

@@mitchoniauto😂

[@jeepsshit]

it can't be eight minutes

[@mitchoniauto]

Hi, mate! It sure IS NOT eight minutes :) It would have been nice to be that fast and easy though!!! It took more like 3 (not full) days. There is some work to it. :)))

[@christiancordero4060]

Did u need to calibrate with a software on a laptop ?

[@mitchoniauto]

Yes, after I made the hardware side of the installation - LPG reducer, LPG tank, LPG injectors, tubing and so on. After all this is done and double checked I went to fill some LPG to LPG station but not the whole tank ( a put let's say 10 litres ) because I needed to check for leaks ( I never had one but this is important ). Then comes the software part of things and I must say that every LPG ECU I have worked with comes with a build-in algorithm for initial settings.

[@fatihkasapp]

What about long term valve problems?

[@mitchoniauto]

I don't expect any of these with this engine. Subarus are OK with this. Hondas on the other hand are known to have valve problems when being used for a long time after conversion.

[@robbifalchi1889]

It will help if you use words (speak) so that people can understand what you are doing. Not very informative.

[@lancelotdoe1]

How and where do I get the installation kits

[@shootMEshootME1]

On eBay I’m trying to do the same thing

[@Horroscope]

Saan pede pagawa Ng cpu auto Lpg

[@mitchoniauto]

Hello! Unfortunately I do not speak your language and cannot understand what you are saying...

[@milky-things1108]

how did u split up your coolant hoses for the reducer? What is the Intake hose and what the Outtake hose? Did u installed it in row to your interior heater or parallel?

[@mitchoniauto]

I have done both on different cars/engines. On another SUBARU I did it in series with the interior heater and on this particular one it is in parallel with t-junctions. They can be 16x16x16 or 19x16x19 and so on. www.lpgshop.co.uk/t-and-y-junctions/

[@hypnation5722]

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[@mitchoniauto]

Hi there! Not sure I understand your "comment" but thanks anyway!

[@mitchoniauto]

The installation kit for this conversion I bought from a local supplier. A good reference site would be this one www.lpgshop.co.uk/lpg-conversion-kits/

[@ScotlandsGold]

Cheers

[@beausmith08]

Who installed it for you?

[@mitchoniauto]

@@beausmith08 Aaaaa... This is actually me in the video wondering around with the hat and trying not to mess things up too much :)))

[@beausmith08]

Do you know what kit I’d need for a 2010 Corolla 1.4l?

[@michaelemail6042]

explained nothing

[@mitchoniauto]

As you can see in the video and I think is clear from the title, this is the very short version of a conversion which takes several hours. I will make other videos with much more explanation if this is of interest of course. :)))

[@asiemens7]

@@mitchoniauto I would definitely be interested in a deeper explanation. This is highly intriguing.

[@schaandonaldson]

amazing this has over 30k views. musta been the title

[@santosh911]

I wish there was some narration. Also, some commentary on the cars performance after would have been nice. Good idea for a followup video?