So... Was Primos THAT Bad?

[@TheDigitalApple]

With how much this show was kept quiet after the initial backlash I initially thought this show was turned into a tax write off.

[@ElijahRaymondEstrada]

👉(()) 👈 POV: you

[@SpaceRider15]

Warner brothers reference

[@thomasgaming7656]

​@@SpaceRider15writers have taxes

[@darkest_thief]

@@thomasgaming7656it’s a warmer bros reference because they promise shows consistently then scrapping them

[@DORAisD34D]

Latinos were offended by "Earthquake Heights". They were like "that would be like calling an American city School Shooting Heights" like no..? School Shooting Heights would equate to Cartel Beheadings Heights 😂

[@rogeliorocha7221]

The main character picturing herself as goku is unironically pretty god tier Hispanic representation

[@BLP04]

Best representation of a Latino kid I’ve ever seen

[@roscoeorginal]

All I can see is that one image of Goku holding the Flag of Mexico

[@Kurotama11]

@@roscoeorginaljust remember, Gohan Blanco is basically canon now 😭

[@rawrdino7046]

Just need the KOF reference

[@wilkinsandwontinsachievemu3772]

May have never been a big dragon ball fan but i can confirm as a mixed hispanic guy.

[@dontuserachelslurs]

Do people think Nacho is an offensive stereotypical name? Its the nickname form of Ignacio. The food is named after the guy that invented them. His named was Ignacio so he called them 'the Nacho special' Ignacio is a common name

[@allendepacheco3419]

In Spanish speaking communities yes, but a lot of people that find Nacho offensive genuinely believe the writers name two characters after food

[@jacquelinemendiola29]

Jack black Nacho Libre movie example!!

[@MaxiemumKarnage]

Yeah my name is taco burrito cactus tequila, it's very common in spanish speaking communities you chuds

[@genemelendez368]

Considering a lot of this discussion was on Twitter, yes. It doesn’t matter if they’re wrong, if it sounds offensive, they’re going to run with that to spew as much hate as possible

[@galletasist]

It is an overused name but honestly it is not offensive at all, though i admit they could have gone for better names for most of the characters, more typical mexican names instead of things like Chacha, Gordita, Nachito... not even offended, but they sound meh to us spanish speakers ( imagine american characters in the same show being called, Willy, Billie, Tommy, and Fatty)

[@aliadrift]

I'm honestly surprised the voice actress didn't just choose the route of "Children don't always speak perfectly, so she could just be saying it wrong" with the whole "Oye primos" thing. That would've been a pretty safe bet because that happens in other kids' shows.

[@allendepacheco3419]

I'm sure everyone aside her were planning to say that since the show is about Hispanic kids living in an English speaking country, but the VA was too spiteful and went rogue with her garbage colonization response

[@lou9635]

The VA took it personnally for some reason and said bullsh*t. It's STATED in the show that the main character barely talks spanish. It's in the third scene of the first episode. It's reminded several times. And it's the plot of an entire episode!

[@undead-p]

It's been awhile but I swear pre-release the creator or someone similar stated that it was on purpose as a reflection of her experience as a diaspora child who wasn't fully fluent in Spanish at that age Unfortunately it got swallowed up by Myrna (the VA) being an idiot on socmed and I'm honestly impressed she wasn't banned and blacklisted for that PR nightmare

[@SieMiezekatze]

Seeing that title hurts my soul, is impossible to say , looks wrong is wrong

[@Elly_Bee_]

​@@allendepacheco3419This could even have been a sort of cute or clever thing since the main character probably doesn't speak her native tongue that well

[@2007hondaaccord]

Wow I can’t believe disney made an animated psychological horror show, really subversive!!

[@thefurbyqueen817]

This aint the first time (pickle and peanut)

[@SlumpherHorror]

@@thefurbyqueen817 this aint the first time (future worm)

[@SinisterBlitzo9]

Alien Encounter:

[@leviticusprime4904]

@@SlumpherHorrorshiy you just unlocked a memory from 10 years ago

[@SlumpherHorror]

@@leviticusprime4904 I'm so sorry for unlocking your memories of future worm of all things

[@andocoolxd5158]

If it wasn't for Myrna Velazco, the whole controversy would have ended in days, her fault entirely...

[@abysspoptv7631]

no, people were already really violent beforehand

[@matt0044]

No, pretty sure that was just seasoning to the entree.

[@pe9ch3d]

@@matt0044sure but it made it significantly worse for it

[@andocoolxd5158]

@matt0044 Yeah exactly, but without her speaking, it'd have remained an insipid course, forgotten over time

[@matt0044]

@@andocoolxd5158 I mean... KZbin and Twitter would've drummed anything up. Hard to pin it on one person.

[@tomachu7899]

Ngl Tater not knowing what the fuck her abuela was saying was insanely relatable to my Cuban American ass .

[@MaxiemumKarnage]

I'm sorry for your loss

[@evilplangaming8787]

Bro we living the same life 😭

[@tomachu7899]

@@MaxiemumKarnage considering how many jobs I could’ve gotten if I knew Spanish, yeah it does suck

[@diskdem0n]

same

[@slayersDX_98]

That moment genuinely hit me spiritually

[@carlS523]

The voice actor's rant and response made things worse for the show! That's all!

[@killgoretrout877]

the situation was just b r o w n fragility top to bottom. The creator is self conscious about being a hafie cause of restless bulling and harassment from Mexicans accusing her of not being Mexican enough her whole life so she makes this show to go "see Im just as Mexican as you guys" and Mexicans and La Raza members in general jumped on to attack her for not being b r o w n enough because they are resentful she is part w h I t e so they pretend a they care about the purity of their language that has so many dialects people who speak it cant understand understand each other out side their own country

[@ElKNO3]

si

[@ironmaster6496]

indeed, honestly if she didn't say the stupidest thing possible it wouldn't have turned out THAT bad

[@tanishambrowne1137]

She acted like total bitch that just add fuel to fire.

[@matt0044]

It’s the consequence of needing more of Social Media presence online when working in Entertainment. Not everyone can be cordial on either side, especially on the Internet where more… wanna chill.

[@chaddwickfincher5835]

I haven’t watch it but I will say this: the backlash to the show pre-release is honestly the biggest backlash to a Disney channel animated show I’ve ever seen in their animated tv show history.

[@collinkeyser6827]

The Star Vs Series Finale: Am I A Joke To You?

[@rainpooper7088]

@collinkeyser6827 The Star vs finale was nothing compared to Primos, not even *close.*

[@PeterGriffin11]

What about The Proud Family Reboot. I remember some of those episodes being very controversial in how they went about getting across their message.

[@RERM001]

@@PeterGriffin11 Trust me, a LOT of people in LATAM saw a lot of racist stuff in the pre-release stuff. LA isn't the only place in the pacific coast with earthquakes, Peru, Chile, Mexico, amongst others have suffered a lot on quakes, the references to spanglish made a lot of people cringe and sure, you can outline how things might be dangerous in the cities like in hey Arnold, but man these Disney people really messed it up by putting a comical amount of "underdeveloped country" vibes on the backgrounds. It'd be like having a modern Negrito Sandia or Memín Pinguín cartoon made with the stereotypes of the past plastered on to it. Not even we are that tone deaf.

[@fabianvilla8474]

@@RERM001 yes we are lol

[@indigomizumi]

If the one VA didn't say anything this show would have probably premiered to only minimal fanfare.

[@atanaZion]

what did they say?

[@alexcelticw]

@@atanaZion she basically said that Spanish isn't a latino language but rather a conquistador language. In a very condescending tone may I add

[@matcha6710]

​@@alexcelticw tbh if that was her point she should learn Náhuatl, one of the most common Native Mexican languages

[@alexcelticw]

@matcha6710 but that's the thing, she wasn't even born in Mexico to begin with. Her parents are immigrants who went to live in the US, so I don't think she has ever been in Mexico. Plus, she said those things while speaking English, a language that was brought to the US from Europe in a similar manner that Spanish was brought to Latin America

[@pablogarcia6188]

@@alexcelticw she low key should kept her mouth shut lol

[@MoonMoon-cl4co]

One thing I think the show actually did quite well with even from the start was the diversity of the skin tones. I like when media shows that a person of a certain ethnicity doesn’t have to look a certain way and that people can have a wide range of skin tones from super pale to super dark and still be that ethnicity!

[@MaxiemumKarnage]

Latin people are white

[@gabrielantunez7642]

​@@MaxiemumKarnage I mean some of them are

[@atanaZion]

@@MaxiemumKarnage cope

[@BLP04]

@@MaxiemumKarnagemost, yes, but it’s very mixed. You’d just as easily find some Germanic tier white guy as a pitch black girl or an Asian looking old man. It’s just a kitchen sink

[@samv.3217]

@@MoonMoon-cl4co exactly. It was pretty great to see. Cousin Bud and Gordita were kinda like two of my cousins who have white skin but still come from a Mexican family.

[@lol3342]

The controversy about the show is how i found out why Ignacio from Better Call Saul was called Nacho So i kinda went 6 seasons and a year not knowing why he was called nacho

[@skibot9974]

But his father calls him Igancio multiple times

[@lol3342]

@@skibot9974 idk I didn't pay attention to that

[@Jacobo-xt5hz]

@@skibot9974 i mean it makes perfect sense once its explained it but growing up knowing exactly zero people names ignacio i didn't make the connection at all, i just thought it was an arbitrary nickname

[@ToastTheThird]

I'm guessing you never saw Nacho Libre?

[@nidohime6233]

​In spanish is quite common to give nicknames based on their names because it was often simplified since many tend to get a bit long, and since words evolve there also become into names. For example if someone name is José Antonio is likely to have Pepe as a nickname, if your name was María Dolores or María Concepción you are likely to be called Lola or Concha (it actually means seashell, but in some countries is use as a slur to mean vulva) and so on. In the case of Nacho is a nickname for people called Ignacio, because is from latin name Ignatius, which in italian became Iganazio (branching into today's Ignacio), then is pronounce Iganachio, to then end as Nacho. The same happens in english, Peggy is a common nickname that came from Megan or Meggy, which at the same time comes from Margaret. @@skibot9974

[@BugsyFoga]

Genuinely haven’t seen a show gets that much backlash before release since Thundercats roar, which was freaking 6 years ago believe it or not.

[@bluerosemaiden5945]

I haven't seen a show get this much backlash since High Guardian Spice.

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

That show didn't last very long

[@killgoretrout877]

the situation was just b r o w n fragility top to bottom. The creator is self conscious about being a hafie cause of restless bulling and harassment from Mexicans accusing her of not being Mexican enough her whole life so she makes this show to go "see Im just as Mexican as you guys" and Mexicans and La Raza members in general jumped on to attack her for not being b r o w n enough because they are resentful she is part w h I t e so they pretend a they care about the purity of their language that has so many dialects people who speak it cant understand understand each other out side their own country

[@ToonyTails]

@@weusedtobestarsThe teaser was 6 years ago, the show itself is only 4 years old.

[@kameahbenjamin178]

​@weusedtobestars uggghh I feel old

[@Skidaro]

Something I didn't notice until now is the fact Tater depicting herself as Goku in her journal every so often might be a nod to how big Dragon Ball is in Mexico. Of course this might be me reading into it too much.

[@pablocasas5906]

It could be a reference to Dragon Ball Z's popularity in Mexico, but there were plenty of Dragon Ball references in other Disney shows like Amphibia, and speaking as an actual Latin American I'd say making a reference to Dragon Ball is kind of basic level, there's plenty of anime popular in Latin America, like Saint Seiya, Ranma ½, Sakura Cardcaptor, Pokémon, or more modern shows like Chainsaw Man, Demon Slayer and Jujutsu Kaisen. I've seen plenty of people wearing anime t-shirts from series like One Piece or even Berserk, anime in general has always been popular in LatAm

[@warbes6200]

She also had a lil sailor moon doodle of herself in one episode as well

[@angelsunemtoledocabllero5801]

You are not reading to much at all. That is just surface level analysis. Is like saying that "Inside Out is about accepting is okay to be sad sometimes is reading to much into it".

[@wilkinsandwontinsachievemu3772]

Not just in Mexico but in most of Latin America, my mom was really into Dragon Ball but she is from Panama, same with my bad but hes Mexican

[@eglol]

Wait I don't watch Dragon Ball. It's really in Mexico? Wow that's actually so interesting

[@Simplifried]

I’m surprised this show even went further. I don’t remember hearing ANYTHING of this show after the first responses. I straight up thought it got cancelled.

[@pajamapantsjack5874]

“Having a Mexican character named nacho is dumb” Better call Saul would beg to differ. Nacho is like top 5 characters in that show my god

[@AureaisChannel]

Nacho is a very common nickname in Hispanic countries though, nothing to do with the food.

[@dragonempress8367]

Nacho Libre anyone?

[@BLP04]

It isn’t really dumb either. It’s just a very common nickname

[@TYR1139]

Never hear that nickname outside of Mexicans

[@AureaisChannel]

@@TYR1139 I'm from Argentina and I heard it many times, it's a nickname for Ignacio.

[@BoogerFart956]

I remember John primos said “Erm.. What the Primos??”

[@intdisaster]

nice username

[@AyoCrunchy]

This man (or woman) deserves an oscar

[@Chunky_Monkey-ci4bw]

✊😔edge worthy quote

[@MaxiemumKarnage]

> "This show is full of mexican stereotypes" > main character wants to be Goku Damn didn't realise Disney was based like that

[@BLP04]

Fr. I have shit on this show before but that has to be one of the most accurate representations of Latino children in any piece of media

[@Leonkennedy19992]

Im mexican and every kid wants to be goku. Its practically a tradition for goku piñatas

[@Jidom_101]

Everyone relates to goku bro

[@BLP04]

@@Jidom_101 nah, you don’t understand. Over here it’s not just relating to him, he’s the second most important person to Latin American culture, second only to the Big J himself

[@Jidom_101]

@@BLP04 Nothing about goku is explicitly mexican he’s a relatable character because he’s just a good dude lol

[@PennTankerGuy]

"Wouldn't be uncommon in this day and age, where fully completed works are sent to die in the ether." Missed a perfect opportunity for a Disney XD joke there.

[@Victini7472]

"look at that sun, look at that sky-"

[@cynanthropy]

Im mexican and people complaining about the nacho and gordita names bothers me a lot, theyre common nicknames here!!

[@BLP04]

Estos gringos quejándose por uno sin entender de que hablan

[@joemutts6152]

@@BLP04o cuando dicen que TODOS los “hispanos/latinos” se ofendieron de ciertas partes. Terremoto heights nada más me dio risa, porque es el tipo de humor que muchos latinos tienen 😂

[@BLP04]

@@joemutts6152 la verdad es que si. Sería algo que nos daría mucha risa

[@MustacheCashStash125]

They’ve never heard of Nacho Libre

[@OcioCamaraMx]

De nacho se entiende porque es Ignacio, pero de Gordita si se pasaron de vrga xD si hay nombres pedorros en el registro civil, pero quién le pondría "Gordita" , "Mija" o "Chacha" a alguien como nombre?

[@jskywalker58]

I get the feeling that if the the vocie actor hadn't ran her mouth the blacklash probably wouldn't have gotten as big as it did

[@collinkeyser6827]

The VA's Response Was Similar To When Seth Rogen & Sarah Silverman Blamed The Backlash To Santa Inc On White Supremacy.

[@Dkm-k4u]

True!!

[@IcyDiamond]

I genuinely forgot that show existed

[@Josue-mv2fo]

I hate the fact that whole controversy removed the dislike button on KZbin

[@IcyDiamond]

Mark in the Primos art style in the thumbnail is cursed

[@bepis9174]

holy crap cool flowey the flower

[@CartoDarko]

I actually think it looks way better than any designs in the actual show, I weirdly like it lmao

[@Kkeicyy_]

looks better than his own art style

[@elesfinter9753]

I don't know if it's a me problem, but every kids show nowdays feels like a story time youtuber in cartoon format. Idk like... it's always about the main character and the main character has to overexplain how they feel that leaves no room for other perspectives idk maybe I'm just chronically online

[@Riaah_love]

One thing I never understood is the backlash towards the characters names being stereotypical, especially from non Latinos like myself. Like for the character Nacho ( a nickname for Ignacio ) or the skinny pale kid being named Gordita, my cousin is half Colombian and her father called her that all the time before he was sent away even though she was very skinny as a kid. It’s just another example of the reception being over exaggerated

[@killgoretrout877]

the situation was just b r o w n fragility top to bottom. The creator is self conscious about being a hafie cause of restless bulling and harassment from Mexicans accusing her of not being Mexican enough her whole life so she makes this show to go "see Im just as Mexican as you guys" and Mexicans and La Raza members in general jumped on to attack her for not being b r o w n enough because they are resentful she is part w h I t e so they pretend a they care about the purity of their language that has so many dialects people who speak it cant understand each other out side their own countries

[@ThePeashooter]

I am from the Latin American community and to me its just painfully average and boring

[@ThisIsAHandle-xz5yo]

@@ThePeashooterisn’t the point to be average, it’s supposed to reflect the experiences of someone who has this happen to them

[@jonal5126]

Gordita (Fatty) and the character is small and skinny bruh

[@nidohime6233]

Is truth there are common names and nicknames, but people also tend to have bad faith, so some might think there where named them horrible on purpose. I mean I bet some girls called Gordita where bullied at times since is like calling you fatty.

[@JohnAGalvanArt]

I dunno man, this cartoon is kind of cringe to someone like me who is actually Hispanic, there is a lot of cultural tropes that they rely on to make it seem unique and most of my extended family in Mexico and in California really find this cartoon offensive still. Such as cuisine, music, and holidays being our only defining thing, and heavily rely on it to be "WOW look at how quirky these people are" when in reality most of us are more than those stereotypes. If you like the show cool, but the backlash was deserved for flanderizing an entire people to be just these tropes or they aren't that culture at all. Some of us just like to hang out, and vibe and aren't caricatures.

[@ECKohns]

I’m not Latino, but throughout my childhood I’ve watched tons of shows with Latino characters. Dora The Explorer, it’s spin off Go Diego Go, Handy Manny, Maya and Miguel were all shows that I watched.

[@BlackThreath1234]

Congratulations?

[@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881]

Yeah but didnry wants to play with the "first" bait

[@kelahti]

10:47 why was that synced so well 💀

[@UmQasaann]

I was about to comment that! Lmao

[@ElKNO3]

lol

[@psychonaut1502]

You know, if this family was Dominican, it'd be called Primo and the dialogue would be twice as fast.

[@swaggerdagger8976]

0:46 Mark for the love of God I know you said the word for a certain force in WW2 but please never censor a word that starts with N ever again 😭

[@Jse.Jay101]

LMAO THE WAY I JUMPED WHEN HE SAID IT

[@AshArtzMusic]

People being upset a character was named “Nacho” is peak Twitter since it’s just an actual nickname

[@veggsbacon1891]

Have those dorks ever heard of "NACHOOOOOOOOO Libre?!" I love that movie.

[@MustacheCashStash125]

Nacho Libre

[@FrexzyDc]

Mark in the primos animation is terrifying Thanks Guys for the likes this is the most amount of Likes I Ever got thanks everyone

[@john_toss]

Honestly it was the voice actress that made things worse lmao

[@ibrahimihsan2090]

Frankly, that's only if someone is willing to entertain such a rant. The only problems in the show weren't even huge problems. The show is just... a show. Watch it? Fine. Don't watch it? Also fine.

[@nachocabo4221]

DUDE PLEASE!!! IM SO TIRED OF PEOPLE FROM THE US CALLING THE NAME NACHO ONE OF THE ISSUES!!! DUDE THAT`S LITERALLY MY NAME, IS COMMON IN LATINAMERICAN COUNTRIES!!!

[@GigalassII]

Okay but answer me one question Is it easy being cheesy? (I'm a German living in America, my family gave me the nickname Kraut, which means Cabbage, but is also a term used to be derogatory to Germans thanks to one Adolf Heissler [yes, his real name wasn't Hitler, he was illiterate, and couldn't spell any better than the creators of this show could], and I can not tell you how many Americans have gotten up in arms over it when I see nothing wrong with it. Good to meet you Nacho, and I hope no one gives you any trouble about the name these days.)

[@idonthaveone60]

OMG! GIR PFP!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@killgoretrout877]

the situation was just b r o w n fragility top to bottom. The creator is self conscious about being a hafie cause of restless bulling and harassment from Mexicans accusing her of not being Mexican enough her whole life so she makes this show to go "see Im just as Mexican as you guys" and Mexicans and La Raza members in general jumped on to attack her for not being b r o w n enough because they are resentful she is part w h I t e so they pretend a they care about the purity of their language that has so many dialects people who speak it cant understand understand each other out side their own country

[@killgoretrout877]

tell you fellow b r o w n s to stop saying its a problem lol

[@pennysanchez7656]

Dude have you seen Nacho Libre? It’s literally a nickname for Ignacio, what are you even talking about bro?

[@UltraPaperGamer]

Honestly the only aspect of this show that deserve all the hate was what the main voice actor said online. Like that shit was super racist, and someone you end the speach like "We're doing this for the kids" Like I honestly wanted her to be out of the show instead of all the changes

[@TopTrunks]

No Brian in thumbnail

[@lovelywinterdayday5748]

I'm Mexican-American and honestly thought some of the backlash was warranted. The name of the neighborhood and improper Spanish was just bad. By far the worst thing was the va getting defensive and claimed pride in not knowing Spanish calling it "OUR" language. What!? I don't speak great Spanish either, but I wouldn't consider that a good or bad thing or "Mexican-American culture." There's unique culture in speaking both English and Spanish, and relatable experiences/memes in not being fluent in Spanish and having difficulty conversing with family, but it's not anything to smuggly brag about like she did. I do also think the show's premise is overall lackluster though and was never anything that'd be likely to takeoff. "Big latino" isnt really as innovative or interesting as people think it is for a story. And the character design just feels like stereotypes. Not necessarily bad, but boring. At worst I hate how the more stereotypical Mexican looking cousins speak broken English and are dumber, while the two white ones are the "smart ones." It wasn't worth getting that much backlash, but also isnt anything worth defending or supporting either. Just a mid show overall.

[@samv.3217]

Still not sure why the tiger conscience was added in, but in one episode they establish that it's a character from one of her childhood books. That's a cool idea, but I hope they go a bit more into her connection with this tiger character. That could be an interesting dynamic to explore.

[@ggrarl]

I would like to point out that despite using the word "Tigre" it's not supposed to be a tiger. That's just what the early Spanish called a jaguar...because, you know, there are no tigers in the Americas.

[@BLP04]

@@samv.3217 that makes sense. Now, if her conscience took the form of Goku like it did for most of us, that would’ve been incredible

[@toonaurz2620]

Anyone remember Maya & Miguel?

[@smt64productions40]

Yes

[@neilhannan5112]

Before Premiere: This is Offensive and Bad why they cancelled the Owl House for this After Premiere: it's Alright

[@TJS-Real-]

Yet another case of the internet not giving anything a chance and going into freak out mode immediately

[@stingertopia3169]

​@@TJS-Real-yeah definitely somewhat an overreaction, but most of the time sfter the premieres are pretty mediocre

[@pairofpears3]

​@@TJS-Real- They listened to the community and changed the offensive stuff like the city and the youngest primo's name If it weren't for the main character's voice actress insulting the entire spanish language (I'm pissed too, and I wish she had been recast), it wouldn'tve been nearly as bad.

[@ianbyrne465]

​@@pairofpears3Yeah, that was a really weird take on her part. But I'm glad the show seeks alright

[@GigalassII]

The real problem was never it being offensive, it was them not knowing how to spell in Spanish. Everything else was Twittard drama bs

[@smugbowkid9919]

This show released? Man how many people actually watched it what

[@crestofhonor2349]

I watched it

[@ibrahimihsan2090]

​@@crestofhonor2349Was it good?

[@smollmoth6376]

I feel so bad for the creator. I read about how the show was her wanting to express her specific experience growing up and it must have scuked to be called shit for just like living Ig. Overall, as someone that is not of any Mexican heritage, I think thr concept is fascinating and not nearly as offensive as it was claimed to be. Though thay is bc they changed some stuff. The voice actress however was just a bad response on her part, just made it even easier to hate the show.

[@deshawnedwards6412]

It's not as bad as people were making it out to as, people just too work up over the due to the intro ALONE, but once it finally premiere I watched it and the it's good, it's not doing any new or groundbreaking it's just a simple slice of life cartoon with clearly hearts put into it. People judge it too harsh before it even premiere.

[@killgoretrout877]

the situation was just b r o w n fragility top to bottom. The creator is self conscious about being a hafie cause of restless bulling and harassment from Mexicans accusing her of not being Mexican enough her whole life so she makes this show to go "see Im just as Mexican as you guys" and Mexicans and La Raza members in general jumped on to attack her for not being b r o w n enough because they are resentful she is part w h I t e so they pretend a they care about the purity of their language that has so many dialects people who speak it cant understand understand each other out side their own country

[@selamandreykum5844]

People were "worked up" over this show for *many* reasons, from the show itself looking like a complete trash to the lead voice actress opening her mouth and disrespecting the entirety of Hispanic LatAm population. Don't know what kind of rock YOU've been living under if you don't even know THAT

[@fatcat1414]

It's a shame they changed the town name. A Californian working for a cartoon studio based in California should be allowed to joke about shit that happens in California. It's all 'cartoons are too sensitive nowadays' until a cartoon actually makes a dark-humored joke.

[@Josue-mv2fo]

The other part of the Terromoto controversy is that Chileans are known for making jokes about how many earthquakes they get, so it was extremely hypocritical

[@SuperMarioJustin4]

I still think that “ChaCha” character looks like the results of “Primos” that love each other a little too much.

[@dylansearcy3966]

9:05 did she break the 4th wall?

[@Paulprogamer513]

I mean it was a show was originally going to premiere after the big city greens movie and my thoughts on the series is it’s fine

[@pablocasas5906]

It seems the show was meant to premiere last year, Tater even made a cameo appearance in an episode of Kiff

[@crazycarlos08]

I really am a supporter of the idea that no matter what response a show gets prior to release, it should still be released because of the work and effort that got put into it. This is no exception, and I'm glad the people with a more prominent voice on the internet share that opinion.

[@dragonmaster834]

The controversy and behind the scenes drama is more interesting than the show itself

[@iluvchess14736]

0:37 I thought that was a clip of anne's final battle from amphibia and got confused when i realized it wasnt

[@supernatureboy13]

ME TOO LOL

[@shadowtd9982]

I feel like if it releases before the loud house, it could’ve been on the same levels of popularity of other disney channel shows.

[@MinatotheGreenLantern]

True

[@Storm_Bringer_666]

Good lord i hope this show doesn't have a terrible fandom too-

[@purple6012]

Nah, the Loud House siblings designs are better IMO, also Lincoln is more likeable than taters.

[@MinatotheGreenLantern]

@@purple6012 Eh I agree that they have better designs though Lincoln being better than Tater all depends on personal taste, Tater is younger than Lincoln so the audience relate to them in their own different ways

[@MinatotheGreenLantern]

@@Storm_Bringer_666 FR!

[@potatostudiosdeluxe3306]

Why do this when you could play Cash Banooca 4 In a big tent instead?

[@FH4Player6397]

Eyyy a Daddy Caddy Reference!

[@DiagonalTanooki]

i am dreaming about big booty goth chicks rn

[@Victini7472]

@@FH4Player6397 "BbbbbbbBANDICOOT"

[@vespacito3950]

I love that game! It's better than Cash Banooca 2: Gringott's Steakhouse in my honest opinion.

[@Xedronic]

Ay a Caddicarus enjoyer!

[@utuberz123456789]

6:34 mark goes Irish mode and says "purshback"

[@GenderlessP]

I'll just never get over the voice actress calling Mexico a shithole country 💀

[@cdangelo1843]

Imagine if one of the primos didn’t want to stay over. That’d be a cool concept to utilize.

[@Ethan-hl3rf]

Nacho is a nickname for someone named Ignacio and Grodito is an endearing nickname

[@pablocasas5906]

It's true that Nacho is just a nickname for people called Ignacio, but as a Spanish-speaker, I've never heard anyone calling a woman "Gordita" as en endearing nickname, usually people call someone "el gordo" or "la gorda" behind their backs. However, I'm not Mexican, perhaps it's more common for Mexicans to use "Gordita" as an endearing nickname, though I think they usually use the word "Gordis" instead

[@gserulle323]

Old names and new names for primos Cousin Bud - Cousin Bud Little Ben - Nacho Tita - Lita Lola - Tere Lulu - Tabi Lucita - Toñita Scooter - Scooter Huynnie - Lotlot Gordita - Gordita Benito - Nachito Mija - Chacha Cookita - Lucita

[@marcoa.2912]

"Famine Farms" goes unfortunately hard ngl

[@empeanutson]

I hate that some people actually wanted Primos to be cancelled before it could even be released and let a whole season of finished work become lost. I thought we were all against tax write-offs

[@johncruelty20]

The aspiration to become goku is the most latino part of this show

[@tinyratdude]

7:19 should have given the little toddler a manly voice

[@ryanbalcom2874]

I still can't believe they originally named the town Terremoto Heights. It's like if there was a cartoon that took place in a village in Laos or Cambodia and they fucking named it "Carpetbomb Kissigner Town"

[@Asmodeuslvr]

I do LOVE Primos as a mixed girl. People were waaaay too harsh on it imo and i love so so many aspects about it. And idk what you're on about with Chacha, she's just a gremlin and I love her unibrow as a hairy girl too. I also love all the kids and easily remember their names. I also love that Lucita has cochlear implants! That's super cool itself as well! I truly truly hope it gets more seasons! I want to see what they can do! I want more rep as a latina!!! I find it SUPER charming and I want shows my nieces and nephews (who are latine as well) can watch and see themselves.

[@DylanoRevs]

Weren't for the huge backlash thanks to the VA with her "supreme thinking" regarding the spanish language, Primos would've been seen simply as an 'averagely mediocre show for kids'

[@rekd1965]

WE ARE A FAMILIA, PRIMO! A FAMILY!

[@HydraSpectre1138]

Just like Vin Diesel, right?

[@farithrafaelbernalmartinez212]

I think there's an issue people are overlooking and is that the term "latino" is too wide for its own good. I know this is a show about mexican-americans, but marketing teams are lazy mf so they use "latino" and call it a day. If I (mexican born, raised and living in Mexico) feeling like I have little in common with a Mexican-american, imagine an Argetinian. But we all 3 are "latinos", sure we have more in common than idk, someone from Norway. But we also have big cultural differences that make our cultures rich, that often get ignored bcs yknow latinos=tacos

[@blobbem]

The problem is that generalisation is a thing that happens so damn often, and it happens towards practically everyone on the planet. Like how I've seen Americans group all of Europe together, or how the entirety of the African continent is treated as if it was a single country. Even people within a singular country can often feel as though they have a different culture towards each other, like the ever present North-South divide of the UK. I can kinda understand why marketing teams become lazy in their usage of labels as there's just an insane amount of different cultures out there, but there is a thing as being _too_ lazy. They probably should've just stuck with marketing this show as having a "Mexican-American" background and left it at that.

[@cherryglitterblossom]

In the late episodes, Tater is revealed to have anxiety which she uses the Vision Tiger to calm herself

[@caseymurray1994]

I'm actually the only one who likes that show. I feel like I'm the odd one out and it sucks. I love the music and art in this show, Tater is one of my favorites besides Lot Lot and Gordita. I love how Tater acts when it comes to her favorite YA book series, "Romancimorphs", because thats how I act when it comes to my favorite fandoms. My favorite episodes would have to be the following. *Summer of La Muñeca. *Summer of Lit-Tater-atura. *Summer of Herramientas. *Summer of La Trabajadora. *Summer of La Madriguera. *Summer of El Patín. *Summer of Chisme. *Summer of No Sabo. *Summer of Bookita. *Summer of Cuadros. *Summer of Tater Luna. *Summer of Super No Entiendo 64. *Summer of La Pijamada. *Summer of Ignacio. *Summer of El Cringe. *Summer of Gwenship. *Summer of Heart Eyes. Edit: I was watching the show on Dsiney+ and I didn't realize that my morkie dog, Smee, was watching it with me and it was pretty funny because he would cock his head everytime he saw Tater.

[@BLP04]

2:59 alright, as any proper Latino, I have laughed at and shit on this show before, but to be fair, having her imagine herself as Goku is about as Latino as you can get Also, to be fair at 6:09 , most of us have at least one little cousin who looks like that

[@YaboyAJ_NG]

@@BLP04 ah... A fellow Latinx. Surly you must agree that we agree to be called Latinx

[@strobo308]

I remember reading somewhere that writers and storyboarders for Loud House were constantly reminded that the siblings had to be together and have a small role in each episode so they would be relevant in some way. It's really apparent when they stopped doing that and started singling out each character, the show feels really different afterwards. Primos should have handled it in some similar way, like forming small groups and focusing on them for each episode.

[@kirbykirbykirby.]

Simply, the answer is *NO. It **_isn't_** bad...* ...but it's still pretty... _meh._

[@leviticusprime4904]

I'd argue that something being mediocre is worse than it being bad, because at least when something is bad you can laugh at it, but when something is mediocre, it just becomes forgettable sadly.

[@VigilanteLulu]

@@leviticusprime4904 Eh, I'd argue that compared to something like Megamind Rules and Velma trampling over a pre-existing IP in the worst possible ways, this show being nothing to write home about is a good thing for some people, like finding a small piece of clean food in a trash can.

[@calamityradio]

​@@VigilanteLuluWhile I do definitely agree that those shows you mentioned are awful, I would argue that there's a difference between a mediocre original IP and a mediocre reboot/remake/etc. The Scooby-Doo IP has a ton of mediocre movies and shows under its belt, but there's been enough good that we don't mind it. And Velma is so far the worst thing yet, so we can appreciate those mediocre ones for just not being Velma. Oye Primos is its own IP, and if a first outing is pretty meh, it's not going to bring people back like a new not-Velma Scooby-Doo series would.

[@VigilanteLulu]

@@calamityradio I mean compared to most animation that has been shown this year, Primos, while not a masterpiece by ANY stretch, isn't too bad. Compared to Megamind's "comeback", it's a clean piece of original IP food in a trashcan of subpar reboots.

[@CSwizzleDizzle]

The character designs do not help. For example, the punk girl's design is fine until you see the nose having the outline go into the nose and loops around for the nostrils before returning to being a normal outline. Looks distractingly awful, completely ruins the design for me.

[@alexcelticw]

I didn't mind anything about the complaints anyone had with this show. It was the comments Tater's VA made about the Spanish language that made me go "yeah, I'm not supporting this show" (I'm Mexican btw)

[@entransify]

but she wasn't wrong.

[@alexcelticw]

@ShilohRules she was wrong. Spanish is one of the languages that originates from Latin. Where do you think the word "latino" comes from?

[@entransify]

How do you think Spanish got there? Colonization! Spain is one of the biggest colonizing countries of all time, alongside the United Kingdom. Yes, English is also a damned colonizer language, and in my opinion, we should all be learning Indigenous languages.

[@alexcelticw]

@ShilohRules true, these languages were *brought* by them. But saying something like that without knowing the origin is being a complete ignorant. She was wrong by saying it

[@juuchanIRL]

people get mad at very small things nowadays. this series would be ok in the early 2000s.

[@samuelline9573]

Watching this the second it comes out in case of copyright

[@Chiisaru]

Hi, mexican here. It's pronounced Ah-see-n-dah. Good to see all the changes done, the only thing I would prefer would be a change for the main VA but that would probably be more expensive

[@tinyratdude]

4:00 What is she on? Braces do not do that 😭

[@JonCrs10]

Its funny how Nacho as word is so abstracted that no one naturally associates it with anything but "Americanized Mexican food" even though its just short for Ingnacio, the guy who made them. Then again, English gave us the name Richard and yet more Anglophone people think of genitalia when they hear "Dick" even when its used as a name.

[@theGoonter]

People always say that the 'Cal Arts' style doesn't affect mainstream animation or that it isn't even relevant to the artform at all. But nowadays, I feel like we are seeing that bubbly rounded style more and more. And it's getting harder to justify its creative existence.

[@LalitoTV]

The problem with this series was that it advertised itself as latino representation, which it fails at because it's more of a chicano thing

[@allendepacheco3419]

If really Disney and their marketing team fault. If they advertise it as a Chicano show, then the backlash wouldn't be as severe (and obviously if the VA did made that horrid response video).

[@pablocasas5906]

As someone living in South America, is the term Chicano used in the U.S. to refer to people of Latin American descent? Because in the pitch bible for Primos they never use the term Chicano, instead they use words like Latino and Latinx

[@BLP04]

@@pablocasas5906no shot they actually said Latinx. That might be the most offensive part of this show’s history

[@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881]

Chicanos on a shortbus

[@allendepacheco3419]

@@pablocasas5906 So the term Chicano is kinda outdated as many Hispanic descendants in the US wanted to be identified as Latinos along with the rest of Latin America. Chicanos differs greatly where you can have someone who is indistinguishable from a local in their homeland and someone who's completely assimilated into white American society but still have a Spanish name. There's also the fact that some generations tend to be diluted of their Hispanic background while others continue to preserve their traditions. So collectively, we want to be called Latinos but if we were to differentiate ourselves from other Latinos, then we use Chicanos. It's likely the pitch bible use Latino because the creator see herself as part of the greater Latino culture in Latin America like many other Chicanos. As for the Latinx thing. Either she wants to appease the executives (who might be majorly white) for more inclusivity or she's more anglo and the term is normal to get. Latinx is a controversial word among Chicanos, but it also shows the best example of two separate cultures are conflicting with each other. Many of us don't like it because one is putting English rules in a Spanish word instead of learning Spanish from the get go but some don't mind because the US promotes more individualistic identity. It's a very heated topic that I'm not the right person to explain it properly.

[@mythcat1273]

Every time mark mentions his cartoon it's like the village elder mentioning an ancient prophecy

[@michellejackson9763]

Finally, Mark is back to drawing his avatar in the style of different cartoons now

[@jayminyoel7911]

The fact that this released is shocking.

[@Keyboardeater1]

The way the lead character's mouth is animated is oddly unsettling. I'm not sure why.

[@themaskedraff]

4:53 tf is bill cipher doing in the pillow

[@deringjosuegarcia1531]

Pillow Bill watches you sleep

[@mariajimenafigueroa233]

No, cause it has two eyes instead of just one

[@Pandacalifornia]

That’s the impression of Tater’s face

[@freeuploads4290]

​@@mariajimenafigueroa233It has one though.

[@anidiotwithaplan8714]

Obligatory Unfunny fell off comment

[@henryszytko9142]

But before it was funny... :( Well, thats the cicle of every meme anyway

[@TheIntelligentElephant71133]

As latino myself this show sucks forget primos el Tigre and mucha lucha was better

[@spoingelerboib]

obligatory please shut up

[@stanstickman3000]

Obligatory "💀" reply to Farm Likes Off a popular comment, Despite adding nothing meaningful to the conversation

[@micjimster4845]

Obligatory comment making fun of the fell off joke.

[@emilioibanezinfante2496]

The problem with shows like this is they give an americanized version of what being latino actually is. They concentrate a rich culture of tens of countries in being mexican, when in reality latin countries are wildly different from each other.

[@cole6843]

The show is fine. I think it was over hated

[@matcha6710]

My only response to the VAs rant was "speak Náhuatl then". If Spanish is a colonizer language, introduce America to one of the original languages of the Native Mexican people. Oaxaca is a Náhuatl word, as a good example.

[@Nerdtendo6366]

My boy Nacho did nothing wrong, free my boy

[@FilmmakeroftheFuture]

There’s truly an art to working with an ensemble cast. If done poorly you just have too many characters to keep up with. As for this show I can’t say. We’ll just have to see how it turns out.

[@TCO_LuxLand]

6:10 my body took a screenshot

[@ghost_0421]

I hate the girl with the unibrow design, it's so ugly 💀

[@incidentalreelz]

Hello shin gojira

[@Hwarming]

The voice actress made the situation a lot worse. Could've just been a simple "Oh hey this character doesn't know Spanish really, that's why she's making grammar errors", instead she goes off on this half cocked tangent about colonizing and other BS

[@shoebillstan8144]

TLDR: it’s average

[@johandraws3166]

4:37 I also live with around nineteen people in this household Just wanted to say that Thanks for the video Mark!

[@BLP04]

Lmao I was about to say, 12 cousins is rookie numbers. My mom has 30 ish

[@johandraws3166]

@@BLP04 Okay

[@90sNath]

1:21 my actual reaction: "WAIT WHAT!..... Oh, yeah, that explains alot now"

[@Ezrakii]

Its crazy that marks pronunciation of Spanish words is better than rebel taxis

[@eerieeric834]

This is the Disney version of the loud House and Casa grandes

[@03mbc]

That what I said

[@KgEclispe252]

Without any of the charm

[@03mbc]

@@KgEclispe252 or care Or familiar voice acting

[@Milesprowerboy5]

I mean, Atleast “Primos” actually stood out from the loud house.

[@intdisaster]

@@Milesprowerboy5 It's just casagrandes but different setting, characters, and art style

[@laegu5430]

Irish 90s Sitcom: The Family Troubles

[@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881]

The big family stereotype hardly even registers anymore since theres a huge population decline going on. Heck even when that stereotype still held water it was significantly less than it was before the 70s. And mind you the kids in mucha lucha were usually only had about 1or two siblings and barely showed cousins (who didnt live with them) so what does that tell you about this show from a supposed enlightened age and "woke" studio compared to one made 20 years ago

[@quangamershyguyyz7166]

All it tells us is that you’re just as oversensitive and whiny as the people on Twitter who made a big deal about a generic, run of the mill, kids show

[@JustinPeters-z3t]

To comment on the rigidness of the poses of the characters: I feel that it’s more difficult for animators to do that with computers as opposed to drawing them by hand. You said you liked the sketches better then the final product so that made me think of that possibility