LS | The OFFICAL 2v2v2v2 TIERLIST w/ Elite500 *ALL CHAMPIONS*

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Champions:
0:00 Introduction
2:13 Aatrox
4:26 Ahri
4:54 Akali
5:51 Akshan
6:04 Alistar
9:11 Amumu
9:22 Anivia
10:34 Annie
11:15 Aphelios
11:49 Ashe
12:06 Aurelion Sol
13:21 Azir
14:25 Bard
14:51 Bel'Veth
15:31 Brand
16:31 Braum
16:47 Caitlyn
17:40 Camille
19:17 Casseopia
20:42 Cho'Gath
21:53 Corki
23:53 Darius
24:11 Diana
24:23 Mundo
27:34 Draven
28:00 Ekko
28:24 Elise
29:30 Evelynn
30:37 Ezreal
32:50 Fiora
34:30 Fizz
35:20 Galio
35:28 Gangplank
36:00 Garen
36:11 Gnar
36:21 Gragas
37:04 Graves
37:26 Gwen
37:43 Hecarim
37:50 Heimerdinger
38:31 Illaoi
39:20 Irelia
39:30 Ivern
40:11 Janna
40:29 Jarvan
40:55 Jax
41:24 Jayce
45:07 Jhin
45:52 Jinx
46:15 K'Sante
47:48 Kalista
48:40 Karthus
50:20 Katarina
51:20 Kayle
51:41 Kayn
54:13 Kennen
55:08 Kha'Zix
56:01 Kindred
57:44 Kled
58:31 Kog'Maw
59:21 LeBlanc
59:35 Lee Sin
1:00:35 Leona
1:00:59 Lilia
1:01:27 Lissandra
1:01:38 Lucian
1:02:31 Lulu
1:02:42 Lux
1:03:25 Malphite
1:07:39 Maokai
1:08:56 Master Yi
1:09:45 Milio
1:10:00 Miss Fortune
1:10:11 Mordekaiser
1:12:51 Morgana
1:12:57 Nami
1:13:00 Nasus
1:13:03 Nautalis
1:13:06 Neeko
1:13:35 Nidalee
1:14:05 Nocturne
1:14:26 Nunu
1:15:38 Olaf
1:16:05 Ornn
1:16:56 Pantheon
1:19:27 Poppy
1:20:36 Pyke
1:21:26 Qiyana
1:21:58 Quinn
1:22:11 Rek'Sai
1:22:14 Rell
1:22:17 Renata Glasc
1:22:21 Renekton
1:23:02 Rengar
1:23:43 Riven
1:24:36 Rumble
1:24:41 Ryze
1:25:52 Samira
1:26:03 Sejuani
1:26:07 Senna
1:26:50 Seraphine
1:27:18 Sett
1:27:42 Shaco
1:29:23 Shen
1:30:39 Shyvanna
1:32:11 Singed
1:32:40 Sion
1:32:55 Sivir
1:32:57 Skarner
1:33:43 Sona
1:34:16 Soraka
1:34:19 Swain
1:35:07 Syndra
1:37:00 Sylas
1:37:53 Taliyah
1:38:20 Talon
1:39:29 Taric
1:40:34 Thresh
1:40:38 Tristana
1:40:50 Trundle
1:40:58 Tryndamere
1:41:31 Twisted Fate
1:41:42 Twitch
1:42:47 Udyr
1:44:26 Urgot
1:44:32 Varus
1:46:02 Vayne
1:46:22 Veigar
1:46:33 Vel'Koz
1:46:51 Vex
1:46:56 Vi
1:48:12 Viego
1:48:20 Viktor
1:49:17 Vladamir
1:51:44 Volibear
1:51:50 Warwick
1:52:25 Wukong
1:52:33 Xayah
1:52:41 Xerath
1:52:49 Xin'Zhao
1:52:52 Yasuo
1:52:56 Yone
1:53:04 Yorick
1:53:37 Yuumi
1:53:43 Zac
1:54:01 Zed
1:56:38 Zeri
1:56:51 Ziggs
1:57:51 Zilean
1:59:00 Zoe
1:59:15 Zyra
1:59:50 Naafiri
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Champions: 0:00 Introduction 2:13 Aatrox 4:26 Ahri 4:54 Akali 5:51 Akshan 6:04 Alistar 9:11 Amumu 9:22 Anivia 10:34 Annie 11:15 Aphelios 11:49 Ashe 12:06 Aurelion Sol 13:21 Azir 14:25 Bard 14:51 Bel'Veth 15:31 Brand 16:31 Braum 16:47 Caitlyn 17:40 Camille 19:17 Casseopia 20:42 Cho'Gath 21:53 Corki 23:53 Darius 24:11 Diana 24:23 Mundo 27:34 Draven 28:00 Ekko 28:24 Elise 29:30 Evelynn 30:37 Ezreal 32:50 Fiora 34:30 Fizz 35:20 Galio 35:28 Gangplank 36:00 Garen 36:11 Gnar 36:21 Gragas 37:04 Graves 37:26 Gwen 37:43 Hecarim 37:50 Heimerdinger 38:31 Illaoi 39:20 Irelia 39:30 Ivern 40:11 Janna 40:29 Jarvan 40:55 Jax 41:24 Jayce 45:07 Jhin 45:52 Jinx 46:15 K'Sante 47:48 Kalista 48:40 Karthus 50:20 Katarina 51:20 Kayle 51:41 Kayn 54:13 Kennen 55:08 Kha'Zix 56:01 Kindred 57:44 Kled 58:31 Kog'Maw 59:21 LeBlanc 59:35 Lee Sin 1:00:35 Leona 1:00:59 Lilia 1:01:27 Lissandra 1:01:38 Lucian 1:02:31 Lulu 1:02:42 Lux 1:03:25 Malphite 1:07:39 Maokai 1:08:56 Master Yi 1:09:45 Milio 1:10:00 Miss Fortune 1:10:11 Mordekaiser 1:12:51 Morgana 1:12:57 Nami 1:13:00 Nasus 1:13:03 Nautalis 1:13:06 Neeko 1:13:35 Nidalee 1:14:05 Nocturne 1:14:26 Nunu 1:15:38 Olaf 1:16:05 Ornn 1:16:56 Pantheon 1:19:27 Poppy 1:20:36 Pyke 1:21:26 Qiyana 1:21:58 Quinn 1:22:11 Rek'Sai 1:22:14 Rell 1:22:17 Renata Glasc 1:22:21 Renekton 1:23:02 Rengar 1:23:43 Riven 1:24:36 Rumble 1:24:41 Ryze 1:25:52 Samira 1:26:03 Sejuani 1:26:07 Senna 1:26:50 Seraphine 1:27:18 Sett 1:27:42 Shaco 1:29:23 Shen 1:30:39 Shyvanna 1:32:11 Singed 1:32:40 Sion 1:32:55 Sivir 1:32:57 Skarner 1:33:43 Sona 1:34:16 Soraka 1:34:19 Swain 1:35:07 Syndra 1:37:00 Sylas 1:37:53 Taliyah 1:38:20 Talon 1:39:29 Taric 1:40:34 Thresh 1:40:38 Tristana 1:40:50 Trundle 1:40:58 Tryndamere 1:41:31 Twisted Fate 1:41:42 Twitch 1:42:47 Udyr 1:44:26 Urgot 1:44:32 Varus 1:46:02 Vayne 1:46:22 Veigar 1:46:33 Vel'Koz 1:46:51 Vex 1:46:56 Vi 1:48:12 Viego 1:48:20 Viktor 1:49:17 Vladamir 1:51:44 Volibear 1:51:50 Warwick 1:52:25 Wukong 1:52:33 Xayah 1:52:41 Xerath 1:52:49 Xin'Zhao 1:52:52 Yasuo 1:52:56 Yone 1:53:04 Yorick 1:53:37 Yuumi 1:53:43 Zac 1:54:01 Zed 1:56:38 Zeri 1:56:51 Ziggs 1:57:51 Zilean 1:59:00 Zoe 1:59:15 Zyra 1:59:50 Naafiri

[@lonemichi5289]

cheers but I think you could just put the stamps in the video

[@hans12797]

Hey ​@@lonemichi5289 , I believe its fully automatic on youtube side after you add the timestamps in the video description.

[@lonemichi5289]

@@hans12797 interesting

[@IamnotfromUSA]

So I should just play my main

[@swermboot6828]

Maybe you should try Sona I've heard some good things about it.

[@TheYinzer23]

I really appreciate the discussion behind every champ. It makes these tier list so much better when you can talk about your reason and Elite500's reason where they should be place and coming to an agreement.

[@sicthemutt]

There wasn't discussion behind every champ tho....

[@Sherfiee]

"Veigar. Terrible" I have to agree with your statement. It was so fleshed out and they gave a very reasonable discussion behind every champ.

[@burst0th]

@@Sherfiee facts

[@Meme-rc1zo]

​@@Sherfiee "Vex, There's no reason to use her" no further explanation, just, next

[@Digger-Nick]

This list wasn't even very good anyways. Rhaast is only good against tanks and given that damage champs shine in this mode, he's terrible. Combined with the fact that healcut is also easily available, he's even worse. Sivir is also at least A tier, she can hit both champs at the same time

[@miisterclutch5005]

This was a wonderful listen, would love to hear more of these in the future!

[@samg131]

You gotta do more content with Elite. Dude is really smart and funny as well as being a great player. Love him as a Vladimir main

[@copycat2181]

I could see a pro scene for this mode being insane

[@BoundBMO]

u can watch the pro scene rn and see people playing 2v2 bot lane :) lol jk no flame

[@jelly8621]

@@BoundBMO LULE TRUE

[@natural783]

I Hope so, since they made it a "for fun" but still competitive with rankings

[@lordgrim-wn5fh]

​@@natural783didn't riot also say tft is only for fun but also have a pro scene small but still existing

[@ghostzz.]

@@BoundBMO LOOOOL XDDD

[@IYPITWL]

Elite says UNBELIEVABLY LS instantly believes it.

[@JaJaGamer05]

I had 700 stardust stacks on Asol because I was with an Illaoi and you can stack your passive off of Illaoi E while waiting for the round to start. Mind that the game was about 12 rounds long.

[@joxler514]

Are u talking of Farming the Dummy?

[@absnted]

​@@joxler514you can't farm the dummy itself but with illaoi vessel you can

[@Rakaan238]

Would love to see a augment teir list. Like how some auments are good every game, and some are only good eith certain setups, and how only certain champs can use a augment well. An item tier list wouls also go hard

[@lordvig8884]

augments and items probably gonna be balanced very hard, at least for champs you can get a sense of how their kits will interact

[@BoraxtheMighty]

I watched the Stream and as someone who has been playing Arena A to Z in order to make a tier list on my channel I just wanted to give a couple of my takes based on actually having played the champions because I think you can really learn a lot from that. I've also been conversing a lot with top 10 arena players in order to make sure I'm not fully delusional lol. For example, to answer the question about Aphelios ammo he gets 30 ammo per gun and he is definitely the worst adc because you end up getting stuck with purple almost every other fight minimum. I wanted to start off by saying I agreed with a ton of the picks but I just wanted to point out a few I personally had different opinions on. Akali- F tier. I don’t think either of you guys have played her in Arena lol. You actually don’t do enough damage as you're lacking percent health damage and what's worse is you never have energy because you don't have presence of mind and the energy balancing is off. One of the worst champions in my opinion especially when the map gets smaller and you fling yourself into the zone. Amumu- This is the one I agree with the least. He’s actually one of the best combo pairings that can deal with the itemizations that counter him as you say. If you land a Q on a target with banshees for instance you still fly to them. Kind of like how he’s actually decent against Syndra because I don’t believe her E can cancel his Q travel. Then you may argue that they will get ready to zhonyas but what I like to do is actually just hold your ultimate and bait out the zhonyas with E instead. People see animation and freakout. If they are patient and don’t insta Zhonyas then they had better have the fastest reaction time in the world as the amumu can decide when they have to zhonyas. He’s also a decent counter to the trap shenanigans champions who are op as you can go full AP/bruiser and he does so much aoe damage that you can just hide from them initially so you don’t get poked down, wait for the zone to go small then try to oneshot all of the turrets that they have set up with your duo. He’s also great into tanks as he does percent health damage and can shred mr for his wombo combo partner. I definitely think this one has not been explored enough by either party! My favorite combo is Fiddlesticks Amumu if you do want to try it out. Bard- So useless, he gets so many chimes but think of the aram buffs. 15% extra damage 15% less damage taken. Without it he does noooothing lmao. Braum- I agree with Ls and don’t think he is super weak. Shield max gives him 55% reduced damage with low cooldown and with regen tank augments he can be very strong. He’s also a great peeler for adcs that I think are very strong. At least deserves to be A tier with Alistar as he can struggle against some of the turret champs but his shield can block the Heimerdinger turret burst for instance. Camille- She is solid and a great answer to kaisa especially with her ultimate. I agree with Elite that Zhonyas is very strong especially if you have damage over time or turrets, but if you don’t have that damage Zhonyas takes one teammate out of the fight so you can turn on the other person so I do think he’s overvaluing it a bit. Camille should be S at least just for the lockdown on annoying enemies. Chogath- How has Elite who has played so many games never seen cho'gath that surprised me. I got 10k hp very easily and you get free stacks. There are so many augments that scale with health and heartsteel actually can make you one shot people. I’d place him in S tier borderline Z tier. I think he can get kited to death but if your duo has lockdown you can do an almost guaranteed one shot combo and W doesn’t let them zhonyas. Corki- Corki with the package is really op for sure and his item flexibility is amazing! But, the fact that they don’t talk about Zhonyas as being an easy counter for his package seems a bit hypocritical lol. I’d place him like B tier. I think he just loses to any of the enchanter Adc combos out there. Dr. Mundo- Dr. Mundo is either Z tier or D tier. He is one of the most augment reliant champions in the game. If he gets one of the health ones/regen ones he will be unkillable. He can’t use a ton of the augments though so like most tanks he is very risky and even more so because he doesn’t have any cc Elise- I’d actually place her A tier borderline S tier. Arena is a rock paper scissors game mode. Against enchanter+adc she is Z tier but against many other comps she stinks. I just think enchanter + carry is so strong that she deserves to be up there. Evelyn- Evelyn is like Elise. Strong against enchanter+carry but weak against a lot of other things. Her invis is incredible as it lets you stall out the rounds and her regen on passive will help you win a lot of early rounds making me place her in B tier. Ezreal- Ezreal is busted but he actually loses to the mega tanks from my experience as he doesn’t usually build Bork+kraken because that will make him weaker against other people in the lobby. I’d place him in A tier. With the right augments S tier with a low roll B tier champion. Fiddlesticks- The fact that Ls says idk about Fiddlesticks makes me sad. He’s actually so strong. Fear max is so busted and while yes he loses to high cc comps if you look at all the champs Ls has placed above they don’t have too much CC. You can also use fear right as people are going for plants which makes him so busted because you then get your fear cooldown back up to do a fear+drain combo. If your ultimate doesn’t get interrupted he also just chunks out squishies but if it does then he kinda sucks. I think he’s an S tier overall though. Fiora- Fiora Q doesn’t hit plants. I think she is Z tier as she can use so many augments so well and she beats squishies and tanks. She can also keep up with people trying to kite her and can outplay something like that Syndra E with her riposte making Syndra an Easy target. She also has a lot of sustain and can kill turrets pretty fast with Auto E reset. Galio- Galio isn’t too bad if you are patient. You just literally try to hide from the enemies so they don’t poke you down. Once the zone becomes smaller he’s actually so strong. Pair him with something like a heimerdinger or Zyra that just wants to sit in the middle and you are in for a good time to the point where I want to place him A tier. That’s as far as I've played as I don’t want to rate any champion that I don’t have first hand experience with! Overall, the best tier list i’ve seen yet but still I think a lot of the decisions that are being made are thinking that both teams just run into one another like maniacs where I agree poke is king. If you’re just more patient and play around vision a lot of other champions become a lot better although it is definitely map dependent as well. Great video overall obviously, it's always fun seeing Ls's insight on things!

[@debendersnair856]

How tf did you type this whole thing up 5 mins after the video was releasede

[@BoraxtheMighty]

@@debendersnair856 I was typing it up while working on my stuff and watching the LS Video on the background. And of course you have to have notifications on so you don't miss a single amazing video am I right

[@IYPITWL]

I hope they don't go the damage taken/dealt route like they did in ARAM. Leads to broken champ combos.

[@IndreadColde]

Good day, a lot of the points you've raised here (like for example just baiting out zhonyas by holding abilities as amumu...) suggest you're against weak competition, thus your view of what champs is strong or weak might be warped.

[@ACE112ACE112]

loved the disagreement about jayce

[@dragomaster2422]

Hey LS, it’s everyone!

[@Ambrosia2830]

free for all and % friendly fire damage would be some insane game modes too. One based on pure solo calibur and one where you have to be insanely strategic not to harm your allies while dealing damage

[@user-xw5zy5wl8u]

or you pick brand and actually flame your allies

[@IYPITWL]

As long as Riot doesn't balance 2v like it does ARAM with the %dmg dealt and %dmg taken. It leads to insane combos where a champ is taking 150% dmg and only dealing 50%dmg. It's trash and leads to a champ balance knowledge check instead of theorycrafting fun.

[@Krasnal428]

?? so how are they supposed to balance this?

[@daniellewandowski6945]

The % dmg differences will most likely be in this mode. The icon for them is already there and it is a decent way to quickly balance things. However even in aram they started experimenting with larger balance changes like karthus passive being made to last less time. As long as they don't only balance based on % stats and add bigger changes on top where needed it should end up okay.

[@lordvig8884]

This is the only way to have some balance while not ruining other champs by item/augment nerfs. Its literally why they do it in aram. I do hope they dont go overboard (ARAM seraphine xdd)

[@Rhyolite-hyena]

​@@Krasnal428Just items & augment balance. This mode should kinda reflect how good at dual some champs are on the Rift as well.

[@tosfriendly]

@@lordvig8884 or just dont balance it? in aram you cant even chose what to play

[@vaale0006]

More content with elite would be so good

[@BoyUutGrunn]

The duo I didn't know I wanted

[@joshuasimmons512]

Same they are super great together

[@LordHurdan]

I'm an aphelios main and have had great success with him. His weapons have 30 ammo instead of 50 so theyre pretty easy to rotate out. grav gives some issues sometimes, but the strength of red white and blue white make up for it.

[@BPR-IronCurtain]

​@@Shreddasaurushe's not good man. Maybe in wood tier sure lol

[@isaakward4393]

@@Shreddasaurusthe mention the issues with him and compare him to other adcs idk what you’re on bud. They aren’t adc players but can guarantee they both play adc better than you’d ever be able to (:

[@alejandrouribe8308]

I play a lot of Corki on this mode and most peoples impression of him is bad. I guess its because they think package doesnt reset. Theres also that bug where if you dont pick up package you can never pick it up again.

[@jackred422]

"have you seen the tier lists that are being made everywhere? they are fucking out there" bro thinks he has the most knowledge out of any other content analyst/content creator and got kicked off a team after coaching for 2 weeks.

[@spookynate5507]

How did C9 do that season once they dropped LS? Surely they didn't immediately start getting shit on :)

[@overthiinker_]

11:55:38 Zed wants to pair with ap champions that deal w enemys mobility in some way so he can land shurikens. The bests imo are Kennen and Seraphine but Khartus, Heimer and even Vlad may work. Malzahar def bleeds early but it's really strong late, they deal with one enemy from afar and ult combo the strongest

[@vaareshi4492]

Played a kayle game with a random who picked karma. Not only did we win without dropping a round, neither of us died at all. We did get lucky with there being no zone control or kayn. As for the video, very informative as usual. Still mid watch but wanted to comment before I forgot.

[@jiaan100]

im 7k mmr soloqueue twitch and every time i get karma i lose horrifically.

[@HPStarr]

I think poppy is really good in this gamemode but you don't build her tank. Going full lethality if poppy gets the wallstun off she 100-0's most champs in the cc, and the ones that survive don't do enough damage to actually fight back since her q is on a 2sec cd. The other thing is that with how the maps are structured almost all of them make it extremely hard to play around the poppy e, or especially flash e.

[@harz632]

Not just the Kappa Juice, Shacos clone doesn't copy any of the other visually changing augments, like Goliath. Chauffeur also menas your ally is stuck to the real shaco, and I am somewhat certain that keystone, dragon soul and the buff agument all don't copy onto shaco clone.

[@kotwczapce1742]

worth noteing, you can literally perma cc with alistar in leter stages, i don't see him landing W at all against ezreal or zed on low ping but other then that you can practicly pin any other champion against the wall

[@deadcandance5130]

I like Elite, pls more content with him!

[@SKysofRain]

The Vlad moment had me crying 🤣

[@haizhouz7627]

Imo it was unfunny as fk and I would have liked to hear what the best vlad player in the west has to say about him.

[@mathfood]

I believe fiora is easily the best champ in this gamemode. If she gets one good augment usually top 2, and if she gets mystic punch it is over for any comp.

[@TheKaleeb]

Hey LS, I know this is a few days late but I believe that Mundo is actually Z tier if built properly (not augments just items). Your three items are Heartsteel Titanic and Atma’s. If you can get away with it get Berzerkers grieves. The last two items are entirely situational. He still loses to Rhaast. He can reliably kill any squishy champ in the game with Flash up so he should at the very least win every other round lategame into bad matchups. If you roll Goliath you hit 900 AD and almost can’t lose as you three hit most champs.

[@elchapita3375]

I,ve tried this a couple of times now, goliath lit breaks mundo btw

[@zyroberk]

you are not winning against any liandry mage in 0 ping, that's for sure

[@TheKaleeb]

@@zyroberk what you goin on about? Zero ping doesn’t mean immune to auto attacks. Four-five basics with that setup will kill. If you get lucky and the mage takes any damage ahead of time they could die to literally auto into E reset should they both crit. Liandries does damage sure but raw TTK is in mundo’s favor unless he just doesn’t get into range of the mage which is unlikely considering blast cones.

[@toocomplicated2773]

@@TheKaleeb most liandry mages are kiting/zoning gods so with 0 ping theres no fucking way your getting on top of them without being half hp first and having to blow flash which in turn they can also just flash away. The caveat being if you're playing against iron players who have no concept of spacing.

[@Bellucci__]

Zeri is literally a hidden op, going ap i've played mostly her and its rly broken, you can one shot plants randomly with auto charged or not, you can burst a lot. she is very polyvalent and gets any augment with CDR, prismatics are broken on her (invulnerability on ult and many others ) , augment "now you see me" is super op, you have a great map control with ur very low cd on E with the augments ( a lot of CDR augments are good for her ). Also the W opener on any map is rly strong

[@rosyegoist]

she also one shots shaco boxes

[@Heldor100]

This mode having ranked and getting all this attention just goes to show how bad we need ranked Q for ARAM too

[@EmenussGOamazing]

People talking about rng in aram as if sr doesn't have enough rng as well.

[@sauvagess]

Literally had games with a Janna who just healed 10k HP off her ult every 10 seconds and spammed tornados so you couldn't move. I don't think she belongs in D.

[@TaIathar]

Hey LS just wanted to say the "tiers" in the tier list need to be renamed. Change Z to S, S to A, etc down the ranks until D to F tier.

[@Rhyolite-hyena]

Not for LS bc everyone is enjoying this tier gimmick of him. Other channel can maybe be like: S A B C Don't Eww FF or a combined EFF.

[@jiaan100]

SS or SSS would be more descriptive than Z. Whether it starts at SS or S is a decision to describe the power level of the tiers.

[@GkzLoL]

tahm is giga broken s tier if you play him with moonstone combined with something like teemo or samira. There is even a feature where you can give your e shield to your ally at the end of the round and the next round your partner will start with that shield which could easily be 1 or 2k.

[@TheExodiaz]

Yeah im surprised they mentioned moonstone morde, but not tahm. Tahm feels broken with almost anyone. Even with a singed i giga won after getting moonstone + redemption

[@feyfiren]

yo... 1:19:50 I played once where Poppy got perseverance as her first aug. She might as well be taric ulted at all times with that aug. She's also able to survive basically any round to the end, at which point all she has to do is R you out of the ring and its gg

[@MrGetownedLP]

Holyyyyy 2 hrs of LS and Dracula Vlad Tepes discussing 2v2v2v2 tier list im rdyyy

[@Zeralop]

Why the name dracula?

[@MrGetownedLP]

@@Zeralop He reminds me of Dracula vlad tepes from Castlevania no cap

[@1erikalexander]

Putting Amumu into D tier without much further thought made my heart bleed. He is S Tier with Twitch and one shots anything as soon as he gets his Zekes first item. im Playing this in 7-8k Arena facerolling every other Z tier Comp except for perma bannend Taric/Kayle/Vayne. The Burst damage off of his Q R Q is way too overpowered in Arena. Share some love for the mumie :D Except for that. Great List

[@user-Chaotic]

Remember the argument that gives you CDR per skill cast...... I got that on skarner and i just go crazy with shields and Q with the stuns like E and R which is an death sentence if you used all your anti cc😂😂

[@lightrocket2]

"Taric" Z, no explanation. Very true Z because of how broken he is with 2v2 / ult resets of plants and stomps anything B tier below but he hard loses to everything else in S+ tier. He just gets hard kited and outdamaged, can be very reliant on duo as locking most tanks with him is instant loss due to lack of reliable damage.

[@wxlrdxndxr5168]

You guys are sleeping on kogmaw, i think he's off the chart, he can really use any augment, can go tank/ap/onhit or a mix of all, you can just space everyone late game and one shot them. Kog is definitely so slept on, i have 130 games on him with 8 losses only

[@adroitwastaken]

nerd

[@plotius]

1:49:17 Elite going off while muted is hilarious

[@ryanforgo3500]

LS 1-alistar , caedral actually had good work with him 2- i agree with your jayce. I don't see how is he gonna deal with a 6-10k life mundo or cho gath. And i don't know how foes he survive invisibility setups. 3- maokai, i've not seen anything that can take his health below 90% even in high elo plays. So he can play with invis champs easily. I actually think he is the best tank when it comes to playing with shaco because he can make sure shaco is impossible to catch.

[@kyowyunkim7966]

I play Vi a lot, and with lethality, she is like a budget talon.

[@ACE112ACE112]

at point would talon be better

[@redridingcape]

She ccs her target, better than talon in many instances because of that. However sometimes she doesn't quite have the burst. Maybe talon has more? Idk

[@toahru]

it’s funny how the first game i played on pbe i was trying to think of who would be broken and i locked in kayn and here we are now 💀💀

[@Zeus.2459]

wow yeah its so surprising that kayn is broken!

[@martir851]

I watched the whole video. I like the way you guys talk, friendly. Im a Zilean OTP, BTW!

[@markradick7701]

love that you fw elite

[@kawaiisnake8201]

Was wondering when we'd get a 2v2v2v2 tier list.

[@dyingbreathlol]

you guys are sleeping on veigar

[@gameanalytic]

LS, Tahm and Samira is insane duo, Samira's ult continues to fire around while is in the Tahm's stomach, I dunno if that is bug but it is what it is, Tahm ult dont stop her ult

[@RadialSeeker113]

Samira maokai for the perma cc and extra dmg is better for Samira

[@dravenshub]

alistar is actually Z tier, if you know every single augment combination and itemization, no way to kill him, he is super obnoxious, he can get double ult which means 14 sec 70% reduction he can go full ap 1tap and run away with the right augments like phase rush, first strike, goliath etc, or just go full tank with the hp augments/cdr augments/healing augments and its gg, they will never kill u EDIT: idk what yall are smoking but eclipse naafiri melts anyone, the shield is just so insane it gives enough survivability and ms to run away if in danger, e just gives too much mobility over walls, ult ms + q dog combo is disgusting, and at 6 items she just 1taps anyone with w

[@IG33Z]

Kha zix unironic, because of his W evolve is insane in aram, yes he's countered by some, but lethality is so strong that I can understand how the ad steroids in this gamemode makes him insane WITHOUT isolation

[@kregman6928]

2 weeks later. zero balance changes implemented into the mode.. gotta love that from riot fr

[@WarsWorth]

The one day I couldn't find my ear buds before work

[@necrohero0]

evelynn i have not seen her once, HEHEHEHEHEHE nice one LS i see what you did there.

[@djohnthesalty]

i didn't read the title for the first 3 champs and thought they were unironically saying Ahri is weak on SR

[@xDamage69]

optimizing the fun out of a gamemode, gj

[@agilities3190]

Could you do augment tierlist as well? Thanks!

[@ursalight]

1:52:05 elites ww impression

[@mireauappel4678]

Chauffeur evelynn makes her allied champion invisible too maong it great with a long range adc because they're literally an invisible turret

[@natoerlawyne772]

people thinks braum its bad, however for me its Tier A. tank, cc, and protect teammate if he is lucky and get 500%HP recovery and 1000% when his hp its lower than 25% its a true wall. just buy him build like mundo or shen and he can do damage too

[@soup4001]

nice video, can we see the test games somewhere?

[@sourishgaruda]

I practically one tricked lucian till about 5000. Played primarily crit with kraken, ie/navori dependent on augments, ldr/collector dependent on opponents (went mortal when against the occasional mundo), the rest were just random crit items and ga. Felt really strong cuz culling basically one shot anyone and if you get the whole heal plant i get ur ult back. U can space kayn decently but I’m not to sure if I was just playing against bad people or if the champ was just strong

[@M4TT2244]

Idk every kane i faced e through a wall q me and press r and i die regardless if i had armor or not 😂 and i dont think they were very good

[@jordansutche9829]

Udyr most DEFINITELY rolls Kayn 1v1 in this mode

[@74URS74]

I swear he has jebaited everyone into Kayn

[@Tortferngatr]

I'm curious about Morgana not even getting a rating beyond "don't," if only because Dark Binding is still Dark Binding, Black Shield is still Black Shield, and she does have some augments she pops off with (invuln on ult, Infernal Conduit, item cdr+zhonya's). (I suspect she has a good matchup into Zyra and Heimerdinger thanks to her pool, too.) Then again, I haven't really tried her in Gladiator yet.

[@maximumoverdrive2676]

I played Morg and Lux last night, I got Rylais or whatever it’s called and then also the augments that give you health for moving and the one that makes every slow 100%, then built speed boots and the burn mythic, it was totally busted

[@hywong5332]

morg good lol, and also xz with lethal crit build makes this tier list useless, i used xz 10 in a row and even i got those useless argument i still wim 8 game lmao😂

[@kibbit1373]

I know he is a Vlad main, but arguing that Raast who deals 90% true dmg with R is somehow a hard match up for Kayn?? Literally has to ignite R vlad and vlad will die. Nothing Vlad can do. MAYBE, Zhonyas and W, but then Kayn just times W Q and also oneshots

[@chokonnit7337]

can’t vlad just pool the ult damage

[@ACE112ACE112]

@@chokonnit7337 yes

[@karlrose405]

​@@chokonnit7337 No, he can't, he will still take damage even if he's in pool. Proof: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3K4dqyDeteKeK8 (12:33) Kayn does indeed stomp Vladimir in almost all cases. Vlad would have to dodge every single q and w from Rhast xd

[@niklFIT]

How is urgot D? I play ONLY urgot in arena now, as a former gold player (in 2016, havent played lol since until i returned 2 weeks ago) i got to 5k rating and still climbing, I am 1st or 2nd in 80-85% of games. He is weak early, but once he reaches lvl 9 with permanent W and cleaver+jaksho+hydra, he really comes alive, and unless you have super burst or super kite, he owns, especially agains bruisers, tanks and most mages. I have 1v2ed many times, almost wish I did record that. Urgot is super fun and super reliable, and is great for noob players like me who are not so fast with mouse and right clicking attacking and positioning at the same time, because urgot just autos with W while moving. I know I would get recked by smart high elo players, but being gold at 5k arena elo is not common for noobs.

[@ericlashchuk2621]

yeah! lets go syndra

[@thomaschristensen9469]

1:50:00 has me fucking crying

[@xylos2559]

Katarina is very flexible with her builds. She can go ap, bruiser, tank. I wouldn't say she is strong on her own but with an engage champ she starts running people down. Id say she's A or B mainly because she can't do much about the Z and S tiers.

[@gothammetal5811]

Kha gets isolation when morde is in R so its honestly pretty decent mid game

[@DiscountSupport]

"Plus he's good early game" about Zed. Lmfao E500 is off his rocker

[@tylerross1845]

stop trying to minmax a gamemode supposed to be fun You guys are the reason new gamemodes arent made stop making tierlists

[@tylerross1845]

@@Shreddasaurus this is a rotating game mode only made for fun, so no, not the same as TFT The problem is people don't want to have fun, they just want to win no matter what

[@7ANKOUCH]

I think this tierlist is far away from accurate bcz the game mode is played as 2 players which means theres a lot of random variables and in the vid they are rating champs individually and not as duos if you get whay i mean ?

[@JamesDGoins]

Tier list for a fun game mode... lol. Some people taking these things too seriously.

[@jerryxing9669]

Then why is the only mode in that game ranked?

[@chezwickcheese139]

Then don’t watch, it’s a fun watch.

[@JamesDGoins]

@@jerryxing9669 it's a ranking based around tft hyper roll... It's not a normal ranking.

[@JamesDGoins]

@@chezwickcheese139 didn't. Turned it off a few seconds in.

[@mariusf812]

Glad kennen got some love, I am currently 25 win streak with him

[@Chickenburger-2]

Exactly! He can do so many CC rotations, zoom around the map with the haste into ms augment and one of the best Zhonyas holders

[@unbekannt2480]

Like Bard is kinda s tier with his passiv because you can stack while enemies are dead, while fight, while wait for other matches, in the training dummies area... like everywhere and with liandries full ap you actually destroy people. Jeweled gauntled would destroy with that ap crit item and rapidfire canon

[@vansserafim]

No one is talking about how janna can push people out with R

[@NeocrimsonX]

Rhaast proving he is superior to kayn once again classic rhaast W

[@Cf-ik9dz]

most speculative tier list. Both these people havent tried 80% of the champs in arena mode.

[@Nyloxmc]

What deck is LS shuffling?

[@Verlisify]

I laugh at the losers that are mad at people for wanting to win a competitive mode they wish was a fun mode

[@PIEDMONTPONA]

Tier list is good. But respectfully you were playing with top 2 Camille world (other than liu bai) I really think with thing like raahst and more sustain oriented bruisers she will have a hard time. Unless she can truly one shot

[@Tomorrow_Big]

Nasus is not a D, build full lethality and your Q literally 1shots late while being semi tanky. Paired with anyone who can engage for him and it's free win vs most comps. Super easy to play too.

[@thereverseeffect7269]

"I was totally fine with having the SA convo" 😂😂😂😂😂

[@greena5sas5in4]

I think shen is actually really good with characters that can survive for a second without like Kayne and fiora let them fight first then ult and taunt it can win alot of fights very quickly

[@Tifa7767]

How about you play a little before you decide how good or rough champs are. Better yet, maybe just wait until this is live and there are adjustments made so that S tier isn't just the same 6 duo comps. Why would you make a tier list without playing every champ? That's silly.

[@eriktonisalu5769]

jax is under rated. Got gladiator with him, I think I have like 70-80% wr on him

[@yosho_sussy]

My friend played mundo in duos yesterday with me, his health regen got so broken everyone started lagging when against him. This is actually disgusting how the burn does 0 damage to him and he can tank it forever with the right augments

[@Chickenburger-2]

had 10.4k hp with him and like 865 ad or something, was so much fun haha

[@rotinvrede]

the thing with poppy is more likely that he does decent against allot of things. dashes tons of walls around you. a half decent ult late. i dont know. on paper she doesnt sound to bad.

[@furyn9221]

Stop underestimating my Sona 🙃

[@drewmcdaniel2672]

Senna is actually insane

[@jianghuwang]

Twitch is definitely s tier

[@Crossholo]

no alistar poppy? you can kick others out of the circle while youre tanky as fuck

[@booperdee2]

reminds of me 3v3 twisted treeline, the meta was always bruiser melee champs

[@23yak81]

Vayne samira, just shows this has no knowledge , belveth, no knowledge, hecarim, malphite, and many others its just too funny though to be fair the mode is balanced (elo is 6000) ive played enough , i know matchmatching isnt elo based

[@feyfiren]

I'd like to mention that in Swain's defense, he also is I think the ONLY champ with infinite scaling that can stack between matches on the target dummy (using E and pulling dummy, W does not work. Veig, Susan, Asol, Senna, all can't stack)

[@raiyano7436]

He cant stack off the dummy, you just get 5 stacks per round (source im a swain main in 2v2)

[@feyfiren]

@@raiyano7436 aww... i checked, ye they removed it. It used to work, they must've patched it later rip

[@WhimsyYT]

Ivern can get double ultimate. Double daisy augment. Auto wins.

[@alcode3321]

Y’all are sleeping on gragas

[@brianwilson1615]

Gwen is S+ for sure

[@kipz]

it's so lame how many good champs feel bad to play in this

[@randomhappenings]

poppy kinda op ngl

[@TheJimCarry]

Where is nilah?