LTC4 - Nihlus (Ness) vs Liquid`HungryBox (Ness) Money Match - Melee

[@rpgrunaway8321]

At the last tournament I entered I asked Hbox for tips for an aspiring Melee Ness. He told me without hesitation "choose a better character..." I kid you not.

[@allorange3777]

i hear that all the time... (my main is pichu) i just use it as motivation.

[@rings-cn1yn]

Pick a top tier.

[@Oakwin_mb]

That's what any semipro to pro player would say.

[@rpgrunaway8321]

Doug Wiseman No thanks

[@toolbar12423]

I asked Mang0 at G3 what to do as an aspiring mewtwo melee main and he said, "L+R+A+Start." then he took a swig of the circo bottle and asked me to play him in friendlies. I lost hard.

[@isaacwoodman4289]

In the wild, The male ness mains fight for dominance above each other in the herd.

[@GGPWN3D]

Clerk ima be the first to say it. you're talking about the commentators right?

[@lucianatilano5320]

Close your eyes at 0:00 and let you imagination run wild

[@Dopamemenergic]

"Ness has such a bad grab range, his little arms are basically Vestigial limbs at this point." LMAO

[@killinswagz]

every time you hear the double jump sound effect, take a drink.

[@rpgrunaway8321]

don't have enough milkshake left for that

[@toolbar12423]

RIP

[@seldomseenkid_61]

+Runaway why are you of all people watching this I told you to pick a better character

[@rpgrunaway8321]

Roger Sanstrom no u didn't daddy Hbox did

[@seldomseenkid_61]

-_-

[@phlash649]

When the commentators started talking about Ness being related to psychokinetic dinosaurs i completely lost it

[@Jcend]

Phlash 64 Same lmao

[@xinxin1559]

3:17 the commentary on Ness' puny grab range is bloody hilarious i love these commentators

[@unnamed7485]

All lizard people are psychokinetic by nature.

[@mizakzee]

9:42 "You thought it was onett, it was actually Brooklyn." I love these guys.

[@delifresh221]

That "OH" that Ness does every time he airdodges/spotdodges is starting to burn into my mind, right next to the double jump noise.

[@Jcend]

delifresh221 What about the pk fire and pk thunder

[@thefancyestdoge6890]

PK MUMPERD PK HOIDER

[@bigtoblerone8446]

As someone who dabbles in Ness, I feel ya~

[@pkpanda5244]

PK TURNIP PK FOYER We Ness mains have a special language undecypherable by any other known species, the people closest to even dabbling in this most sacred of ancient languages would be Ness ditto commentators

[@vendetta8449]

The ping sound is starting to get engraved into my mind.

[@MrWumbologist]

I watched a bit of this, but then i was like Wait Why am I watching a Ness ditto

[@DraconisMarchVII]

Because low tiers are rare to see in Melee.

[@MrWumbologist]

There are rare species of fungus that I don't really look into either

[@DraconisMarchVII]

Are you a biologist? If not, the metaphor doesn't work. I'm assuming since you're here that you're interested in Melee, so your interest in the game means you'd probably be interested in things that have to do with the game.

[@woobinthescrub]

Splendid ur profile pic fits the expression best :P

[@abcdefzhij]

Why would you ask that exactly?

[@reallyIanHughes]

First hit fair to car true combo

[@chrisdhespollari4815]

#1 Ness in Texas That's because there isn't competition for the Best Ness. Nobody ever plays him.

[@matthewcuriel991]

ben dover nihlus from what I saw has good djc timing but bad spacing. He focuses too much on his technique which is something I use to do. If he focuses on using his tech and analyzing play and creating clean baits and counter options he'd be better

[@dirtkiller23]

*in Eagleland

[@bl4ckbl4z39]

7:45 Classic case of the Taunt -> Get bodied true combo.

[@DowntownWithBrown]

What's with HBox's 1993 tag? Mother 2 came out in 1994.

[@Denik19]

datautisticgamer hbox was born in 1993.

[@DowntownWithBrown]

Makes more sense now.

[@VinnytotheK]

Yeah but your mother came out in 1993. I'll show myself out.

[@pedroromo2918]

Didn't it come to America in 1995?

[@xeothegamer1878]

THE TAUNTS HAD ME CRYING

[@HeavensScopez]

This is fun to watch even in 2023

[@AAAA-ts2mc]

how much was this money match for? I hear 100, then 100,000, and 200,000

[@MrPickle]

it was a $100 money match, I have honestly no idea what the commentators were talking about with 100k and 200k lmao

[@joeylumer1037]

What's the point of doing a djc into a follow-up over a short hop into a follow up?

[@algerianboi_213]

you can attack in the air MUCH MUCH faster with a DJC than with an SHFFL

[@joeylumer1037]

Got it thanks

[@suntzu3541]

They were playing for how much money??

[@nikolauswilliams3124]

One hundred United States Dollars ($100).

[@sethstoll8525]

$200,000

[@emmanuelmondesir1314]

Ness is one of the lizard people? My sides

[@Forbidden_0ne]

I keep hearing a ringing sound. Anybody else?

[@jonahabenhaim1223]

Phil Dees I do, its ness’s Jump

[@choiceboatshoes8611]

"ness's recovery is so bad it's worse than falcon's" ??? falcon's recovery is actually pretty acceptable. c'mon at least compare it to an actually bad recovery like roy's or kirby's

[@abcdefzhij]

Even though Roy's recovery is better than Falcon's...??

[@helamansung6216]

Falcon has the most gimpable recovery ever. At least Kirby and Ness have a large distance... Falcon's is horrible against even semi-competent edge guarding.

[@Milkbutter]

I actually practiced how to spike by using Falcon and Ganondorf, lol. Its hilarious what you can do to it. Its pretty good horizontally though, because of the falcon kick to double jump.

[@gazeboist4535]

Worst recovery is Bowser by a mile.

[@Milkbutter]

Can you spike his recovery during active frames? I've never been able to do it.

[@tokani4544]

Can you think about something better than a Ness ditto?

[@upicciottupersu]

Who won?

[@PKStarstream013]

Wow melee Ness dittos are fucking fun to watch

[@warpzone2878]

Hbox's reaction at 11:38 lmao

[@d4c_reznor470]

Since when was Onett legalized?

[@dirtcollector]

what the fuck were these commentators talking about

[@abcdefzhij]

11:37 When baseball meets boxing

[@bigtoblerone8446]

O m gawd they are actually playing on ONETT!

[@kirjian]

oh~

[@trixietruelove2274]

Nihlus is so nervous biting his lips up.

[@galaxizedgamer_don.4920]

This was actually a really fun Ness dito match, I’m a Ness main as well in Melee and I think Ness can actually be a powerful character if you know how to use him, plus his double jump cancels are just as fast as Peach’s

[@lobotzindiegoantesnesslope6004]

danm i kinda wanna play with one if this dudes, looks like they hit the air more than they hit each other

[@smurlix5676]

The best low teir shirlord deity charecter in the known universe A annoying 13 year old with a weird head and twig arms and a stare that can kill you for no reason

[@Katalowins]

i really disagree with falcon recovery being perceived as better. ness can drop a good deal further and eliminate nearly every gimp option the enemy has. not to mention the massive sweetspot ranges of PKT2. yes it is difficult, and if performed incorrectly you die, but there are plenty of options that falcon's recovery can never utilize.

[@DingoYabuki]

Cool audio lag

[@arturo-kun4763]

Even though Ness is one of my favorite characters in Smash, his double jump sound effect annoys me.

[@Katalowins]

i think it sounds cleaner and softer than the BLIP shine effect, which i am pretty sick of hearing

[@explodingpikachu7475]

If you think that is annoying, try not to blow your brains out in Sm4sh when all you hear is "Okeyokeyokeyokeyokeyokeyokeyokeyokeyokeyokeyokey"!

[@unnamed7485]

"PK Fire!"

[@dinkleberg64]

great commentary

[@ariesomega2487]

Worst recovery in the game ? Did you ever heard of Bowser, DK, and ROY.

[@worldrenownedpsycho4941]

this set was crazier than yoshi vs bowser I mean ness dittos like *come on*

[@NoVaCXG]

Hold up, who would money match for $200,000?!

[@jasonlobo2350]

CoreXGamer JMW actually is only 100$ xD

[@pek-g8m]

Bing Oh

[@chubeviewer]

10:07

[@goober5367]

okey

[@kendrick5501]

To me, five words: BEST. MELEE. NESS. DITTOS. EVER 😀

[@G_U_STHEBESTE]

Only

[@Nihlus5]

hopefully next time when I beat him it'll be even better ;)

[@kendrick5501]

Nihlus5 you did your best to win I like both your Ness and Hbox's Ness haha Ness is my favorite character of all time anyway Mother boyz ftw!

[@Katalowins]

i have to disagree, the simna vs nihlus ditto was WAY better, much more depth of knowledge and a lot more games to relish.

[@Jcend]

kendrick5501 Same Ness is my favorite character among all the smash games besides Brawl

[@heresplitatom9945]

Legalize Onett

[@jasop1291]

These commentators are the best

[@andreioraseanu9652]

I

[@luijo633]

8:40 in that moment i smashed like

[@Dnps1360]

seems fun

[@AintFalco]

**TIN TIN TIN INTENSIFIES**

[@user-mx2vw9ep1w]

Wow I barely saw any pk fire

[@matt_villanueva]

*BLINK BLINK BLINK BLINK*

[@heresplitatom9945]

Giygas' Nightmare

[@Freefork]

Their on the sidewalk, cars are on the street. *Why does that kill you?* We are just suppose to accept that? Okay...

[@PK_LuiZi]

I fucking love Ness! EarthBound is lit!

[@chrisifer8941]

LMAO, when Hbox just taunted at the first match! Was the other guy mumbling????

[@Reminiscable]

Can't be a worse recovery than bowser's.

[@ramendominos]

ness is so good. I beat a falcon main twice with him

[@WesleyImboden]

Watt the flux looks like a snapchat filter 😭

[@thedrunkapple838]

7:46 taunt to get bodied

[@andrescube64]

Hungrybox is good as melee Ness

[@bruceU]

oh get bodied

[@NBX313]

OH SHIIIIT

[@arashi1681]

O K E Y

[@EzeLeyes]

This game winner is: Ness

[@arashi1681]

@@EzeLeyes HE wins using O K E Y

[@benk6153]

Hgod

[@donovangallardo3102]

11:23 nobody gonna comment how sick the thunder jacket was... okay lol

[@williamomalley6081]

ik it's been a year but no one's talking about it cause that was a djc bair

[@johantgg5651]

Nihlus have sad

[@peytnorr6038]

PK FIRE!

[@ShiRuBa3368]

Fed-X. GoldenPants wrong game

[@timwinterhalter5233]

Nihilus is quite good. Not Simna or Mofo good, but quite good. However...HBox is HBox.

[@faira0496]

no he sucks he lost to my kirby

[@epicpurple129]

kirby's not much worse than ness

[@gregheffley788]

Ness is ninlus

[@Michael-cg5qn]

I’m surprised HBox knows how to use other characters much less not camp with them

[@diegokiller2097]

Recovery: Worst: Bowser ( Can't even grab the ledge) DK( Very exploitable) Ness( Very exploitable but at least tracels a very decent distance) Roy Ganondorf( Very slow but travels more distance than C.Falcon's Dr.Mario Yoshi ( He is acceptable only cause of his double jump) C.Falcon ( Due to Ganondorf traveling more distance but at least is the fastest) Mario Fox Samus Jigglypuff ( Due to having a useless up-b) Falco Marth Kirby Ice C. Link Mewtwo Sheik Pichu Mr.Game & Watch Luigi Zelda Pikachu Peach Young Link

[@NoUnboundFreedom]

Not a fan of Saturn's commentary style.