LTx Showdown: Big Cam VS Small Cam

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3 жыл бұрын

On todays video we have the opportunity to compare a Big Cam to a Small Cam in two virtually Identically modded 6th gen Camaro 1LE's both on 93 octane and E85. Will the Big cam come out on top or will the Small cam pull off the upset and beat out the Big boy? You'll just have to watch and see!
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@brettguth6020
@brettguth6020 3 жыл бұрын
CSP Great job on the video! Really awesome see the 2 of them in the overlay. Explains all my wheel spin on the top end vs others....Love it! Thank you and great work!
@paintslinger16
@paintslinger16 3 жыл бұрын
Really cool to see two popular choices side by side
@RCbashingtheKRATON
@RCbashingtheKRATON 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job editing,,clean and watchable..
@MikeB85
@MikeB85 3 жыл бұрын
So basically the big cam Orange car made within like 40ish whp of what a heads/cam C6 Z06 will do? That's really impressive, good work!
@djrr.zl1
@djrr.zl1 3 жыл бұрын
Sheeesh look at all those camaros lined up 😍😍😍😍
@noltec420
@noltec420 3 жыл бұрын
That ZR1 thoooo
@dannyh5700
@dannyh5700 3 жыл бұрын
Cool builds on both, I would go for the smaller cam on mine too.
@JoeyDiPar
@JoeyDiPar 3 жыл бұрын
Would be cool to see the street tuning aspect after the dyno tune and how you fine tuned it
@milehighgimpster
@milehighgimpster 3 жыл бұрын
These engines love long tube headers though! That's quite a difference!
@TheJMan1K
@TheJMan1K Жыл бұрын
Small cam car needs an MSD or ported LT2 intake. But for a relatively Street friendly build it’s got excellent numbers.
@Stclairm1
@Stclairm1 3 жыл бұрын
I guess a cam swap might as well include getting the heads ported. Might as well go all out. Thanks for the comparo!
@SDGlock23
@SDGlock23 3 жыл бұрын
Love it, need this for my '17 SS
@jesuscuencar2274
@jesuscuencar2274 3 жыл бұрын
Need it for my '19 ss
@_Mi1le
@_Mi1le 3 жыл бұрын
@@jesuscuencar2274 need it for my 02 Z28
@cemsengul16
@cemsengul16 3 жыл бұрын
Small cam with big heads for a daily driver.
@gdevonfarley
@gdevonfarley Жыл бұрын
I have to bring my 2016 SS to get some work done. I'm in the Poconos and will be dropping it off before spring.
@lexusrcflover9175
@lexusrcflover9175 3 жыл бұрын
They both make strong numbers can't go wrong with either one that big cam sounded like it reved to the Moon tho which was awesome lol
@MoonBoost
@MoonBoost 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Love performance Comparo’s. More informational like dyno’s are supposed to be used for. Not swinging weiners around.
@DadsDriveway
@DadsDriveway 3 жыл бұрын
Big cam wide LSA for the soon to be added blower as power is addictive.
@bvp794
@bvp794 3 жыл бұрын
I see my gto on the lift!
@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast
@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@jimholesaw6597
@jimholesaw6597 3 жыл бұрын
You putting a chevy engine in it 🙃
@The_Drive_Inside
@The_Drive_Inside 3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap it’s weird seeing a car exactly like your own on a thumbnail 😂
@theflyingfox2602
@theflyingfox2602 3 жыл бұрын
Hope to see that "DARK KNIGHT" out here in MD roads!! 0_0
@deanchapman2447
@deanchapman2447 2 жыл бұрын
love the color its best
@shawnking6270
@shawnking6270 3 жыл бұрын
Have you guys done any with the 10speed auto? I want to bring mine to you guys.
@Untamed_STI
@Untamed_STI 3 жыл бұрын
Wanna cam my 5th gen SS so bad, trying to save up the money lol. Great video, very informative as always
@apollyon1118
@apollyon1118 3 жыл бұрын
Throw a ls9 cam in it
@Untamed_STI
@Untamed_STI 3 жыл бұрын
@@apollyon1118 Why? Lol. I’m looking for that chop, not terrible driveability (LS3), and of course, as good of power as I can get from a cam since I daily my car
@apollyon1118
@apollyon1118 3 жыл бұрын
@@Untamed_STI i had a LS3 as well, the ls9 cam added 54whp and had no drivability issues
@apollyon1118
@apollyon1118 3 жыл бұрын
@@Untamed_STI all for $100 plus gaskets, I think it was good for me. Pretty sleeper sounding lol, check out my account it did well against other vehicles
@Untamed_STI
@Untamed_STI 3 жыл бұрын
@@apollyon1118 Not too shabby hmm
@LMBC6Brian
@LMBC6Brian 3 жыл бұрын
Incorrect info. 2019 was the first year you could get the 10speed for the standard SS. 2021 is the first year you can get the 10 speed for the SS 1LE. That was manual only through 2020.
@god1st.530
@god1st.530 3 жыл бұрын
They are often I remember a episode. Big cam vs small cam they was so wrong an had to bash vengeance racing in the process to make the video . It was a vengeance max effort cam. But they forget that was when cam only cars was running 9.7s . It was called cam only for a reason that's how I started at vengeance racing. So all I know is any Ls Lt car love a big cam an a 36 to 4000 stall . An that's a fact.
@MartinPerez-ju9iw
@MartinPerez-ju9iw 2 жыл бұрын
2020 you can get auto
@houstonmade8327
@houstonmade8327 2 жыл бұрын
Your wrong , actually 2018 is the first year you could get the a10 for the ss .
@tyranrainey
@tyranrainey Жыл бұрын
@@houstonmade8327 you could get the 10 speed in fall of 2018 but it wasn’t for the 2018 Camaro. it was the 2019 Camaro that was made available for sale in 2018. 2016-2018 autos are all 8 speeds
@mre_nolasport5392
@mre_nolasport5392 Жыл бұрын
Only camaro that had the a10 before 2019 was a zl1 other than that it was the ss. the 1le got the auto in 2020
@FitzCity
@FitzCity 3 жыл бұрын
What was the specs for the small cam? Was a lash cap needed?
@IranAir12
@IranAir12 Жыл бұрын
Now the Chevy crew just needs to use a self tuning device like ford has coming. It automatically adjusts for outside temps, humidity, elevation, pressure and fuel octane and e content all by itself. There’s even a company that has been doing self tuning devices for over 14 yrs now, at Vivid Racing in AZ.
@HioSSilver1999
@HioSSilver1999 3 жыл бұрын
Car was having valvetrain issues with the big cam up top. Small cam did well. There would be virtually no difference in acceleration between those cars.
@maxscal7537
@maxscal7537 3 жыл бұрын
the amount of comeros this guy walked passes is nuts
@chadpukaite3775
@chadpukaite3775 3 жыл бұрын
Camaro's
@maxscal7537
@maxscal7537 3 жыл бұрын
@@chadpukaite3775 i knew i was spelling it wrong lol
@RobertKohut
@RobertKohut 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@chaosgaming6389
@chaosgaming6389 3 жыл бұрын
Alright so how much is the install for the big boy in a 2017 auto? Lol i need to start saving up i guess...
@modernmusclecar1904
@modernmusclecar1904 3 жыл бұрын
He guys new sub here. Im in Ontario Canada and a buddy of mine is buying a 2021 1le 10 speed. He wants heads and cam done right away. The really good ls shop close to us quoted 17k. I thought no way. They said its new and they are working on the tunes and stuff on their 2019 shop car. Does this sound right? Thanks.
@anthonybomicino3276
@anthonybomicino3276 3 жыл бұрын
A lot has to be attributed to the msd in the upper rpm
@calebstevens6417
@calebstevens6417 2 жыл бұрын
What size cam did the orange one end up getting?
@Jesusprayerwarriorbw
@Jesusprayerwarriorbw 3 жыл бұрын
Any update on the TT kit for C8?
@Battle_Garage
@Battle_Garage 11 ай бұрын
Can we get some cam specs. Not sure what's considered big and small in this application.
@Angel-dn9sm
@Angel-dn9sm 3 жыл бұрын
The sound is worth it if ur there allready bigcam
@MeltingRubberZ28
@MeltingRubberZ28 3 жыл бұрын
You can always run a smaller cam with tighter lobe separation and get both
@Motoxin17
@Motoxin17 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I like this guy. Is he the owner?
@zachrozi3910
@zachrozi3910 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the price difference between these 2 ??
@08turboSS
@08turboSS 4 ай бұрын
They both made the same tq and only a 18 hp dif. it would be a drivers race or a 130 lb driver vs 210 lb and 6 gal of fuel vs 14.
@captain8960
@captain8960 3 жыл бұрын
How much is all this set up cost for big cam
@jondough7727
@jondough7727 3 жыл бұрын
Time to invest in a clip-on mic.
@user-uz7pk2ck9r
@user-uz7pk2ck9r 3 жыл бұрын
wow
@08turboSS
@08turboSS 4 ай бұрын
Never had to remove 75% of this stuff for cam job on LS2/3.
@moisessevilla9630
@moisessevilla9630 3 жыл бұрын
Whp?
@kingkole02
@kingkole02 2 жыл бұрын
What if you don’t drive an automatic?
@PawlDunken
@PawlDunken 3 жыл бұрын
Whats considered a small cam?
@ss2cold247
@ss2cold247 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought my Camaro 2ss trying any suggestions for getting started
@LsXUnderground
@LsXUnderground 3 жыл бұрын
Cannot go wrong with a cold air intake and exhaust 👍🏻
@ss2cold247
@ss2cold247 3 жыл бұрын
@@LsXUnderground any suggestions I like the deeper tone rather than loud
@LsXUnderground
@LsXUnderground 3 жыл бұрын
@@ss2cold247 peep the video description for the 6th gen Camaros. I put some recommendations in there. CSP 2in Headers or Kooks 2in headers mated to the factory dual mode is a great option. Loud/quiet when you want it lol
@ss2cold247
@ss2cold247 3 жыл бұрын
@@LsXUnderground thanks man appreciate keep up good content love it man 🔥🔥
@MeltingRubberZ28
@MeltingRubberZ28 3 жыл бұрын
Headers
@Conway7
@Conway7 2 жыл бұрын
Where is your shop? I want that set up for my6 gen
@completestreetperformance
@completestreetperformance 2 жыл бұрын
West Chester, PA
@amordeweso
@amordeweso 3 жыл бұрын
Might as well go big cam so you don’t ever have to
@PhillyDee215
@PhillyDee215 3 жыл бұрын
Big Cam all day🔥
@brannonbarakat457
@brannonbarakat457 3 жыл бұрын
I got a lil baby 220r cam in my gto, doesnt hook till 60 but it looses all the steam after 100 lol. The torques insane.
@PhillyDee215
@PhillyDee215 3 жыл бұрын
@@brannonbarakat457 🤦‍♂️🤣is what it is....
@brannonbarakat457
@brannonbarakat457 3 жыл бұрын
@@PhillyDee215 must be new to the cam game? Sometimes them big cams get the gap, not always feasible to make peak power all the way at 5500 rpm lol.
@PhillyDee215
@PhillyDee215 3 жыл бұрын
@@brannonbarakat457 I have the biggest cam possible in my buick V6... check out my dyno on my page. But big or small cam is better than stock....and it's all about what u want out of your build and or camshaft. Top end....sound....etc😉
@Sweaner172
@Sweaner172 3 жыл бұрын
small cam for California ;)
@CamaroThings
@CamaroThings 3 жыл бұрын
0:38 ... red, white and blue... MURICA!
@crossingkey4978
@crossingkey4978 3 жыл бұрын
Im confused on the witness mark on cam from the fuel pump lobe? I thought they runn electric on in tank
@bluenecross
@bluenecross 3 жыл бұрын
Direct injection uses a "low pressure" pump in the fuel tank and a "high pressure" pump on the engine that is driven by the camshaft.
@crossingkey4978
@crossingkey4978 3 жыл бұрын
@@bluenecross o wow haha thanks for the info
@timothywilson3785
@timothywilson3785 3 жыл бұрын
They look NA. Very impressive.
@Upracefan
@Upracefan 3 жыл бұрын
Bigger is better!
@robertoc.4413
@robertoc.4413 2 жыл бұрын
Race them both
@ericinfante1885
@ericinfante1885 3 жыл бұрын
So small cam or big cam folks?
@jackstoepfer1494
@jackstoepfer1494 3 жыл бұрын
I just emailed about a cam
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq 3 жыл бұрын
Need to exact same mods on both cars for a legit comparison. No ifs ands or buts.
@corystansbury
@corystansbury 3 жыл бұрын
I think I'd go small in this case. That torque difference would not be subtle.
@junitoss83
@junitoss83 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same shirt that he has in at the end lol
@Standyourground21
@Standyourground21 3 жыл бұрын
It takes time to save up some money and then decide and pull the trigger on getting a cam done. But you no what pisses me off when the shop’s personnel act like it’s just another car on the conveyor belt. Your in the wrong business if you look bored and not excited about performance cars. A sign of a good shop is organization and a clean shop. Mind you there always seems to be a lot of nice cars there getting work done.
@1slow.grandsport628
@1slow.grandsport628 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree, I had a cam installed in my c6 grandsport, and the shop i chose to do the work had an incredibly clean neat organized shop with alot of high performance cars worth more than mine. The mechanic work was fine. The tune was absolute garbage tho. I couldn't stand driving my car.
@iAbdosh
@iAbdosh 3 жыл бұрын
I had them tune my c7 when I was NA and even though I didn't have any work done by them, they still treated me like a was more than a customer. Got an amazing tour of both shops and Andrew and Alex took their time answering all the dumb questions. Couldn't have asked for a better experience. There's a reason why they're well respected and always booked out weeks if not months in advance.
@iAbdosh
@iAbdosh 3 жыл бұрын
@@1slow.grandsport628 Exactly this.
@1slow.grandsport628
@1slow.grandsport628 3 жыл бұрын
@@iAbdosh I wasnt saying csp done my work. A local shop in georgia did, and the tune was garbage.
@iAbdosh
@iAbdosh 3 жыл бұрын
@@1slow.grandsport628 I know. I was agreeing with you that it doesn't matter how clean a shop may look is if they can't deliver results and quality work. And CSP does just that, they deliver.
@ahmedal-mawlani5284
@ahmedal-mawlani5284 3 жыл бұрын
Small cam all day
@Joshuapsalm
@Joshuapsalm 3 жыл бұрын
Dam 561 Na
@xxmakeouthill23
@xxmakeouthill23 3 жыл бұрын
What do u do for a living
@jeredtapp5760
@jeredtapp5760 Жыл бұрын
Curious. Why’d you drop the pan?
@sheldor73
@sheldor73 Жыл бұрын
10qts bulky af
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq 11 ай бұрын
Blk one got what???? Small cam, MSD and heads?? I thought he said something else that got covered up by the lift noise.
@largelarry2126
@largelarry2126 3 жыл бұрын
The big cam guy is out to impress someone and the small cam guy is out to win.
@billgates5561
@billgates5561 3 жыл бұрын
Shop needs to be cleaned .
@sj7624
@sj7624 3 жыл бұрын
Why don't you get off your ass and go clean it for them!
@RCbashingtheKRATON
@RCbashingtheKRATON 3 жыл бұрын
MUST HAVE VOTED FOR BIDEN,,LIBERAL ASSHOLE
@IRONMANDAN1965
@IRONMANDAN1965 3 жыл бұрын
@@RCbashingtheKRATON my state is red not like yours..
@RCbashingtheKRATON
@RCbashingtheKRATON 3 жыл бұрын
@@IRONMANDAN1965 why did you VOTE BIDEN THEN.
@IRONMANDAN1965
@IRONMANDAN1965 3 жыл бұрын
@@RCbashingtheKRATON i didnt vote i was too busy with your mom..
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq 3 жыл бұрын
Ugh, I can't STAND the didge charger or Honda Accord look of the front end of the 2019 SS. Butt ugly.
@natelsx
@natelsx 2 жыл бұрын
Watched the hole video and no race ? Seriously
@SIRICKO
@SIRICKO 3 жыл бұрын
Where did your neck go ? lol
@issacgonzalez100
@issacgonzalez100 3 жыл бұрын
Weak no race
@davidray4128
@davidray4128 3 жыл бұрын
Big cams suck more..
@marcojordan1368
@marcojordan1368 3 жыл бұрын
I like a small cam
@craigslue
@craigslue 3 жыл бұрын
I understand your trying to sell cams but not very informative without more info than big cam small cam.
@completestreetperformance
@completestreetperformance 3 жыл бұрын
Simplified mostly to show where trade offs can be.
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