Lucid Air 3 Month & 15,000mi Review! What We Love & Hate, Testing Results - The Best Luxury EV

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Күн бұрын

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@larrywineland4682
@larrywineland4682 2 күн бұрын
I own a Lucid (2022 March build GT) and think you’re right on the money with your detailed assessment. It’s not even really criticizing, the car does so many things so well, it’s because you fully believe in their ability to pull off the best EV sedan ever, that you just want to help out. The Lucid people are serious and also love what they’ve made, it’s been fun to see my car grow and really come into its own and it makes me happy every time I get into it.
@isserdigan2835
@isserdigan2835 2 күн бұрын
I can say from 22 to my 24. The 24 is better. I drove both.
@tr0nd15c
@tr0nd15c Күн бұрын
Grand Touring + leasing my dream car in 2025 = #LucidMotors FTW. #TeslaSucks. #NoCompromises #ZeroDragCoefficient #BehindTheDesign #AutomotiveInnovation #RallyAgainstRangeAnxiety #Sapphire #BreathtakingBrilliance #Jawohl #Wunderbox #SeatMassage #SimplisticElegance #ElectricEfficiency #ZenithMetallicRed #FathomBlue #RJScarCringe #EveryMillimeterCounts #PeterRawlinson
@Swapnil638
@Swapnil638 Күн бұрын
Very relaxing and candid! No script, music, unnecessary cinematics, etc. It just felt like sitting in a car with two people.
@loums52
@loums52 2 күн бұрын
GREAT review...I am leasing a Lucid Air Pure and agree with pretty much everything you had to say (especially the funky smartphone operation!). I do, however, like the retracting screen and do not have a problem with it (I usually retract it when night driving). I live in San Diego and my experience with the sales people was incredibly good so I guess it just depends on your location. I also thought the delivery experience was great and my one experience with the mobile service tech was super good (he actually worked for Tesla for several years and we also had a great discussion on where Lucid is heading). All in all, it has been a very positive experience and the OTA updates have been coming out pretty regularly. Because of the probable significant depreciation, I would also recommend looking into a lease. I will look forward to your Gravity review!
@ashishpatel350
@ashishpatel350 2 күн бұрын
the lucid and the taycan are my favorite.
@directorjustin
@directorjustin Күн бұрын
Jordan is such a great presenter. It's always a joy to see him on the channel! 😄
@radgeh5924
@radgeh5924 Күн бұрын
I tested a rwd pure at the oak brook studio about 6 months ago. I knew a lot about the car and was asking very technical questions but I thought my guy there was very knowledgeable and I had a great experience
@TheCosmic64
@TheCosmic64 2 күн бұрын
I never planned on getting an Ev …but if i do get a Ev it would be a lucid …No company is perfect but this is the Company i would go with …For My like
@azizmarz
@azizmarz 2 күн бұрын
Agree 👍🏻
@TheoPhilpot
@TheoPhilpot 2 күн бұрын
This was a really great video. Not biased at all, you genuinely just want the best vehicle you know they can make
@Jone911T
@Jone911T 2 күн бұрын
Hope Lucid sells more than yet, great car. Hopefully comes in all European countries.
@otm646
@otm646 2 күн бұрын
Lucid needs to not sell another Air, they're taking massive losses with every car. The Gravity will be the car that makes or bankrupts them.
@mrb2349
@mrb2349 2 күн бұрын
@@otm646 why are you trolls cheering for Lucid to go bankrupt?
@petergilbert9066
@petergilbert9066 2 күн бұрын
​@@otm646You don't run a business do you!
@User.Joshua
@User.Joshua 2 күн бұрын
Lucid needs a Model 3 sized vehicle with a hatch. Give it 350-400 miles of highway range and it'll be a hit.
@RONderluck
@RONderluck 2 күн бұрын
I disagree
@User.Joshua
@User.Joshua 2 күн бұрын
@ why not? The Model 3 is a hit. Are you suggesting that there isn’t room for another competitor?
@otm646
@otm646 2 күн бұрын
There is already too much competition in the bottom end of the segment. These absolutely plummet in resale value. You can pick one up 2 or 3 years old for 50k which is Model 3 territory.
@User.Joshua
@User.Joshua 2 күн бұрын
@@otm646 the small sedan segment is tiny, there’s hardly any competition; what is there besides the Model 3 and Ioniq 6 and the now defunct Bolt? All EVs have poor resale value, but you’re neglecting those that simply want to lease, so that doesn’t have any bearing on purchasing decisions for those folks. Have you all not seen the demand for the Rivian R3? People want more vehicles in the smaller segment.
@Yousefs-p4b
@Yousefs-p4b 2 күн бұрын
Coming 🔥
@miketaylor4162
@miketaylor4162 2 күн бұрын
I would love to have one of these cars. So impressed with the tech, style and the range. Lucid, hook a brother up😂😂
@abrahaat
@abrahaat Күн бұрын
I was in the same boat and then looked into leasing. It was affordable and I have been leasing one for about 5 months now. It is the best car ever!
@krkope8277
@krkope8277 2 күн бұрын
That was well done, and in true OOS style you spent over twice as long on the "sucks" vs the "likes" about a car you both love.
@johnpoldo8817
@johnpoldo8817 Күн бұрын
Watch it again and listen closely. I felt opposite that they praised Lucid much more than berated it.
@04NJCobra
@04NJCobra 2 күн бұрын
Awesome review. The GT is my top choice for EV. Also, can we see a hooligan video of you sliding this thing around please ? Really want to see that! 🤙🏼🤘🏼
@azizmarz
@azizmarz 2 күн бұрын
What an amazing car. I think it is the best EV over all.
@sinoevc
@sinoevc Күн бұрын
The point you made is very interesting and has sparked my thoughts.
@jarrodf_
@jarrodf_ Күн бұрын
Great vid. Unsurprising this is outselling Model S (especially given Tesla's rapidly deteriorating brand). Time will tell if Gravity can do the same to Model Y
@Bundynational
@Bundynational 2 күн бұрын
interior looks 🔥
@HDHQDIRECT
@HDHQDIRECT 2 күн бұрын
Lucid is a true luxury vehicle, with quality materials and build quality. Tesla is the Chevy of EVs, basic and plenty of corners and costs cut to deliver an average plebs vehicle.
@otm646
@otm646 2 күн бұрын
They're losing over $220,000, Yes, $220,000, on every single one of these they build. It's not hard to be opulent when you're spending Rolls Royce money
@petergilbert9066
@petergilbert9066 2 күн бұрын
​@@otm646Which BOM items attribute to this high cost of nearly 300k, in your expert manufacturing benchmarking analysis, of course?
@petergilbert9066
@petergilbert9066 2 күн бұрын
​@@otm646Work less than a mile from the Rolls Royce factory and know a few people who work there. If I knew you could get a brand new Spectre for 75k I would have ordered one. And I'm pretty sure they do a staff discount so I need to get one of my mates to order one for me.
@harriettanthony7352
@harriettanthony7352 2 күн бұрын
This EV driver takes up the gauntlet--He drove the Lucid on New England's narrow roads. The EV is HUGE, it reminds me of a 1970s land yacht. The interior would give an astronaut a case of the hee-be-gee-vies. ALL these things to break over time, and at what price? By a contrast, the Tesla is a sans peer tech masterpiece. And OP is correct the interior is 'basic', perhaps to a fault. It does keep the costs down-- a single stalk is circa $15.00 wholesale- and perversely , allows a buyer to customize his EV. As we have just witnessed, the Tesla which is 'new to the industry' HAS vastly improved with the 'Highland' Model 03. And having 'graduated' to a USED Tesla model 03 from two of Hyundia/Kia products I would NEVER rate the Tesla as 'average' or 'plebian' by any gauge
@harriettanthony7352
@harriettanthony7352 2 күн бұрын
I wonder what AI censor lined out most of my post and why, and by whose instructions?
@josephgillum5396
@josephgillum5396 Күн бұрын
21:37 In Jordan’s defense, if he’s listening to AppleMusic in that Rivian, there is a significant difference in sound quality compared to Spotify. It sounds like an entirely different sound experience.
@markmonroe7330
@markmonroe7330 2 күн бұрын
I think we need to see a few customer cars get 150,000 miles and see how things go there before declaring this the best car in the world. Any car/truck can be "good" for 10, 20, 30 thousand miles.
@harriettanthony7352
@harriettanthony7352 2 күн бұрын
True, the Pinto, the Chevette & others were 'great cars' til they used in the real world. And what good is the title of the best car in the world when only the Al Gore & John Kerry types can afford them?
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168 19 сағат бұрын
Well, I'm at only a little over 30,000 miles on the Air Dream Performance we got in December 2021. What I know so far is that the Model S Plaid we bought in September 2021 developed squeaks and groans in the rear quarters by 10,000 miles. The Air, though, it still rock solid with nary a creak, rattle, or groan. Its interior (except for the off-white carpets that are getting a bit dingy even after shampooing) still looks brand new.
@한구름-x6i
@한구름-x6i Күн бұрын
한국에서 빨리 타보고싶네요. 루시드 🎉🎉🎉
@TheSpiritedTaycan
@TheSpiritedTaycan 2 күн бұрын
Isn’t this the same car that was used in the i90 surge race?
@TheReal_JG
@TheReal_JG 2 күн бұрын
Yes
@TheSpiritedTaycan
@TheSpiritedTaycan 2 күн бұрын
@@TheReal_JGthank you so much for the information. And it was the car which did 510 miles in a outofspec 70 mph road test too.
@corglass
@corglass 2 күн бұрын
Yea, check out 1hr 8min mark
@italianovero220
@italianovero220 20 сағат бұрын
I don’t believe they offer the GTP anymore. So it’s this trim and then Sapphire above it.
@MosesAndersonSpeaks
@MosesAndersonSpeaks 7 сағат бұрын
I second the motion on the Sapphire ask 😂
@Yousefs-p4b
@Yousefs-p4b 2 күн бұрын
Thanks Guys, fair review, very informative if someone is about to buy.
@360milliondollars
@360milliondollars 2 күн бұрын
High pitched electric noise is possibly the electrical ballast... the lights need something a bit more beefy for the lights or just handle it with easy and good air cooling.... or it could be two points that not suppose to touch is touching.... sort of like in a high end audio system where you get static... found that on my device and cleared it... that could possibly be a issue.... noise really does bother me also.....I wanted to buy one but a lease may be better.....pending....LOL
@terrytexas8257
@terrytexas8257 Күн бұрын
2022 Air GT owner. Most of your cons are personal preference, and really do not represent what everyone will agree with. I'm 6'9" and I get into the car differently than you do, and I do not have any issues. I like the clam shell back, but my wife doesn't...Again personal preference. I do agree with your gripe regarding the placement of the window controls. So many times I'm controlling the rear window when I think I'm controlling the front windows. Very frustrating. A lot of the issues you mention I have never experienced, head light whine...never once have noticed it. Only been flashed twice. Blinker sound...never happened to me nor many of the other things you complained about. When I discuss the car to people who are thinking about getting one, I tell them it is by no means a perfect car, and point out the design issues I think were not thought of correctly. The hidden compartment, I always say it is a gimmick that is cool to show off, but I never use that space because it is a pain in the ass to get to it. Opening the glove box. Cool the first time you use it, pain in the ass every time after. So, I want them to improve, and be successful, but at such a high purchase price, it isn't for everyone. For me it was all about range, and the uniqueness of the car on the road, coupled with the ride / luxury and presentation of the car. I've had this car for just over 2 years, and honestly have only ever seen 3 others on the road. I like that. The charging IMO is a disappointment on any Hyper Charger, that it doesn't stay at or above 300KW for longer, and it does charge fast, could be so much better if they tweeked a few things on their charge controller, which I have mentioned but other than hearing "those are great ideas" never seeing them implemented. My Air GT is a special out on the town vehicle / date night with the wife car. I'll never transport luggage or anything that could mare the interior, and will try to keep it special for as long as I own it. I have enjoyed all of your tests on this car, and for the most part agree with some of what you say. I'm by no means a fan boy, but will correct any reviewer when they get the information wrong. Fingers still crossed on the chip upgrade, last report, they are still undecided whether they will do it or not. I have heard that less and less is being put towards the older units since the Gravity is about to go live. So not looking forward to being a second class owner with the flagship product that will not be supported like I think it should. Good Luck
@MaryMartin-b9r
@MaryMartin-b9r 2 күн бұрын
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@CraigMatsuura
@CraigMatsuura 2 күн бұрын
If 0% is shown, I can't blame lucid. If the car stopped working at 0%, no one should expect any car should drive past empty (0%) in my opinion .
@italianovero220
@italianovero220 20 сағат бұрын
I’m looking to either get a Lucid AGT or plaid. What would you suggest? I have a toddler and 2 dogs, and a wife.
@guccisasha
@guccisasha Күн бұрын
I wish I had a lucid nearby to test drive it. I m so involved in the resla ecosystem I feel it will be so different. Still Kyle convinced me to try one. Ty
@johnpoldo8817
@johnpoldo8817 Күн бұрын
Give Lucid credit for a big power frunk. But a big box won’t fit in clam-shell trunk. Whether you are short or tall, be prepared to duck when getting into driver’s seat.
@hege750
@hege750 Күн бұрын
When do we get the BMW i7 Driving Assistant Pro hogback video!
@ronb4633
@ronb4633 2 күн бұрын
As for testing repeatability of charging, see the Porsche test. Aug 26, 2019 - The 2020 Porsche Taycan completed 2128 miles in 24 hours, running between 121 and 133 mph, around the Nardò Ring in Italy.
@BillB33525
@BillB33525 2 күн бұрын
The nice thing about EQS & I7 is mutliple service shops in most big cities. I would be worried about breaking down on the road with the Air bc of the small number of service points.
@vickykennel7414
@vickykennel7414 2 күн бұрын
EV very reliable, 4 years out, car is pretty much solid! And you have mobile repair vans.
@johnpoldo8817
@johnpoldo8817 Күн бұрын
You are absolutely correct about Lucid service. My 2023 Lucid GT was garaged on west coast of Florida. To get service 10 days after purchase, it required a flatbed truck to haul it a long distance to east coast. What a horrible experience. That issue was easily solved by replacing Lucid with EQS and service is only 6 miles away.
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168 19 сағат бұрын
@@johnpoldo8817 What was so horrible about having a car picked up in your driveway and returned to your driveway for service or repair? We live in Naples and have had excellent service from Lucid's mobile techs out of Ft. Myers and from the service centers in Riviera Beach and at the Miami Worldcenter over the three years we've had the car. Not once have I had to leave the house to get a service visit or repair handled. On the couple of occasions that the car needed to go to the east coast for service, Lucid dropped an Air Grand Touring loaner off even though we have two other cars and said we didn't need one. By contrast, if I need service on our Honda Odyssey, I have to make an appointment and work it into my schedule, take the car in to the dealer myself and, if the work is going to take more than an hour or two, I have to arrange a ride back home . . . and then repeat the process when the work is done. By the way . . . we've already ordered a Lucid Gravity to replace the Honda.
@tubemayhem7242
@tubemayhem7242 2 күн бұрын
I really don't understand how anyone can't like their Model S Plaid 1:18:59
@RedvinezYGO
@RedvinezYGO 2 күн бұрын
Kyle’s Model S is pretty cursed which probably makes his opinion more negative than it otherwise might be
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168 2 күн бұрын
We have a 2021 Model S Plaid (replaced our 2015 Model S P90D). We have also had a Lucid Air Dream performance since December 2021. No comparison. The Air is much the better car in terms of ride, handling, room, comfort, luxury features, and build quality. (Our Plaid had developed body squeaks and groans in the rear quarters by 10,000 miles. With three times that mileage now, the Air is still rock solid.)
@RealElectech
@RealElectech Күн бұрын
​@blakespringpasturemortimer9168 well compared to a 2015, of course. The Plaid is completely different.
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168 Күн бұрын
@@RealElectech Perhaps you missed the fact that we traded our 2015 P90D for a 2021 Model S Plaid (in September 2021), so I'm very aware of the differences. And it's the Plaid I'm comparing to the Air. However, I should note that our 2015 Tesla had better fit and finish than our 2021 Tesla. The Plaid had to have the driver-side outside mirror replaced as an internal screw was missing and it vibrated badly. The yoke airbag had to be replaced twice. A rubber grommet fell off a stud in the trunk lid. The PPF that was factory applied to the rear wheel wells was noticeably yellower than the white car. The front passenger door required a hard slam to latch. Pieces of interior brightwork were out of alignment. And within a year the "skin" was peeling off the yoke and the car had developed squeaks and groans in the rear quarters.
@RealElectech
@RealElectech Күн бұрын
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168 guess I did miss that detail yes. My experience with the refreshed Model S has been much the opposite - everything holding up well after 3 years/30K miles. A couple creaks and rattles but nothing major at all, they did replace the peeling yoke for free with an improved model - all the first gen yokes had that issue. Otherwise it's been very solid, and a huge improvement to my pre-refresh Model S. I also had a 2020 prior to the 2022 and the build quality was horrible on that one, panels literally falling off the doors, all kinds of gremlins. Was yours built during COVID? Wonder if it's one of the ones they built outside in the tents in Fremont.
@AlexBerman1
@AlexBerman1 9 сағат бұрын
I'm guessing range exchange is limited to AC because even a 20kw DC cable would be too thick? I'd think DC range exchange would be better no?
@trstrean
@trstrean Күн бұрын
I like the Lucid..just wish i had a job that paid me enough to be able to afford one. Ad a dog owner, can you do a dog family video talking about which vehicles work best with multiple large dog families? We have 3 large dogs and are in the market for an EV that would work well for road trips with them. I think Rivian R1S or Kia EV9. We added the 3rd dog before considering how we would transport them and our current vehicle doesnt quite work.
@zmarko
@zmarko 2 күн бұрын
I had this on my list for my next car (a used one), as i enjoy the styling and the efficiency and range are simply outstanding. But seeing the reviews on the charging and the lack of a hatchback, I had to take it off the list. I REALLY want Lucid to succeed and continue making advancements in efficiency and pushing the range boundary, and i look forward to seeing them push the envelope with the Gravity.
@watermelon1221
@watermelon1221 Күн бұрын
good insight on the ergonomics of the seating and compared to Porsche
@robertvadjinia126
@robertvadjinia126 2 күн бұрын
Kyle… how tall are you?? I’m 6 ft and built like a lineman, getting in and out of the Lucid without hitting my head is a real issue… that issue alone turned me away from this car.
@isserdigan2835
@isserdigan2835 2 күн бұрын
Correct the 20 inch Michelin Piot sport EV drives Hella lot better than the 21 and 19
@jannekar
@jannekar 2 күн бұрын
Hmm, I have never had a problematic discussion about the lucid online, the stockholder base is still quite small. Not the case for Tesla though, it's impossible to say anything bad about it without getting attacked by people who want to get rich quick.
@TylerPoppe
@TylerPoppe 8 сағат бұрын
Flipping down visor flap would obstruct viewing while driving - people shouldn't use it when driving but if there is one thing I learned splitting lanes, people absolutely would use those flapped down to look in the mirror while driving.
@David_L3
@David_L3 2 күн бұрын
Wait, what?... You didn't really Total the plaid? I remember it getting run into a curb but then you had it fixed.
@youtubeaccount9808
@youtubeaccount9808 2 күн бұрын
We really wanted to buy one but can't stand black interiors and this was the only reason we bought a Model S when we preferred the Lucid Air. I hope they get their head out of their arrogant a** and realize there are customers who like to buy premium cars with non-black interiors for the front seats. When I inquired about why their seats have mismatched colors and the front seats must be black to buy one, they tried to sell me some BS about how it's designed to look like a private jet. I politely told them I'm buying a car and not a private jet. I want them to do well but hard to imagine how they can be so arrogant with their interior color options with a requirement that the front seats have to be black.
@RealElectech
@RealElectech Күн бұрын
The exterior colors are an absolute bore too.
@ajlbeer
@ajlbeer 2 күн бұрын
When I test drove that beauty, the whine was very annoying to me. The salesman was clearly aware, as he either cranked the AC or turned on the radio both times I was there.
@vickykennel7414
@vickykennel7414 2 күн бұрын
2025 and the base Pure dont have the whine, I actually like the whine, adds character
@Modhuchosha
@Modhuchosha 17 сағат бұрын
Lucid must survive.
@kemicbi
@kemicbi Күн бұрын
Where are the executive seats?
@jaa2772
@jaa2772 2 күн бұрын
Strange to be viewing an electric car review, which is supposed to be super quiet, but I kept hearing a a whining sound coming through the video while the car was being driven. That's annoying!
@scottbreseke716
@scottbreseke716 2 күн бұрын
Lucid price in the sky with diamonds. 🎶🎶
@wasabi521
@wasabi521 2 күн бұрын
When do we get the Macan BZ4x video?
@USUG0
@USUG0 2 күн бұрын
charging performance is "disappointing" considering it is an expensive luxury EV. And especially, as its CEO keeps bragging about being the best in the biz
@MJ-fh8fw
@MJ-fh8fw 9 сағат бұрын
Tesla has same unlock issue. Then you have to use the tesla card to start the car when your phone key loses connection.
@MrAlfable
@MrAlfable 2 күн бұрын
The should just turn it into an estate/station wagon, would totally fix the back end/profile aesthetic.
@BillyONeal
@BillyONeal 15 сағат бұрын
Except that's a big part of where the range comes from
@scottbreseke716
@scottbreseke716 2 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed listening to The Bad, the cons. It's 18 minutes long.
@grizzlymartin1
@grizzlymartin1 2 күн бұрын
Will the coming galaxy suv have same specs?
@777Outrigger
@777Outrigger 2 күн бұрын
Great car. Hope Lucid survives.
@RONderluck
@RONderluck 2 күн бұрын
I actually work for lucid and internally we’ve been talking about shutting it down in April
@777Outrigger
@777Outrigger 2 күн бұрын
@@RONderluck 😮
@imasharksfan1149
@imasharksfan1149 2 күн бұрын
@@RONderluckMaybe someone should tell that to your CEO.
@RONderluck
@RONderluck 2 күн бұрын
@@imasharksfan1149 He already knows.
@petergilbert9066
@petergilbert9066 2 күн бұрын
I actually work for the S.A PIF. Looked at our bank account today. Sheesh, no wonder we all eating beans on toast for dinner lately. I mean seriously, it's gonna be a lean Christmas this year.
@brandenflasch
@brandenflasch 2 күн бұрын
Charging is the biggest letdown
@karlwolf2
@karlwolf2 2 күн бұрын
I feel like your gripe with electric cars is always chargingm maybe stick to Kia if that's so important or the Chinese cars ...
@IronmanV5
@IronmanV5 2 күн бұрын
But with it's range, you have the flexibility to choose chargers near a good restaurant.
@RONderluck
@RONderluck 2 күн бұрын
I completely disagree
@junehanzawa5165
@junehanzawa5165 2 күн бұрын
I agree. The long range partly negates that, but the poor curve for an 800V vehicle and how finicky it is even on 800V chargers; plus the atrocious 400V charging of only 45kW on the most available chargers in the world right now is extremely disappointing for a vehicle that cost this much. Had they given it a better curve and had had the foresight of giving it a proper 400V booster or a simple spliting of the pack in 2 when charging on 400V, this would sell so much better and hold it's value so much better, because it's an amazing vehicle otherwise.
@TheReal_JG
@TheReal_JG 2 күн бұрын
​@@karlwolf2I think OP is saying that because of how it performed during the I-90 race. I was being left in the dust behind the Model 3 and Taycan (Sadly, OOS Dave let the Lucid Team down by under-charging and stranding the Lucid toward the end of the race).
@johnpoldo8817
@johnpoldo8817 Күн бұрын
Did everyone see Jordan press the charge port door 5 times to open it. They obviously didn’t fix this from the 2023 model I bought. It was one of reasons I returned it after 3+ weeks. Lucid’s charge port door is worst in the industry. Please don’t tell me I have to open the door from inside the vehicle.
@utrvg4
@utrvg4 11 сағат бұрын
Unrelated. Maybe someone in Colorado can get a bunch of good lease deals on Kia EV6's and let us Utahns take over the leases on one do the lease sites?? Eh??
@viper5ko
@viper5ko 2 күн бұрын
sapphire review please
@borama7845
@borama7845 2 күн бұрын
I want regular door handles on all cars, that worked well for so long. Grab it, open it, done. I am so tired of those stupid flush things. 😡
@Bangpath247
@Bangpath247 Күн бұрын
long story short, its actually a grand touring car.
@Raptordavy
@Raptordavy 2 күн бұрын
I hate the Taycan comparison, you have about 50 to 60% chance to have a problem free Taycan, also it's slower, way more expensive, worse efficiency and terrible software. Tried one ( needed 4 trips to the dealer to have a working one) and was not convinced. A friend has one and has 2000 miles in 18 months, he doesn't like it, two have his friends have one and they are in the shop for over 6 months now, Porsche has NO idea whats wrong but they are not working good.
@RONderluck
@RONderluck 2 күн бұрын
You didn’t try one you gotta stop lying man. I’m just looking at all your previous comments on all the channels and you’re just a nonstop liar
@douglasizzo
@douglasizzo 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for the commentary and thoughts!
@vhol93
@vhol93 2 күн бұрын
Nice
@RONderluck
@RONderluck 2 күн бұрын
Sedans > girly SUVs
@MediaDevice01
@MediaDevice01 Күн бұрын
Charge port placement is horrid. For the North American market, port should be rear passenger side.
@AdamFrugoli
@AdamFrugoli 2 күн бұрын
So guys, why this car rather than a Model S?
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168 2 күн бұрын
Because they've driven both an Air and a Model S. We are on our second Model S -- a 2021 Plaid that replaced our 2015 P90D and have had a Lucid Air Dream Performance since late 2021. We've already ordered a Lucid Gravity SUV to replace our Honda Odyssey but will never buy another Tesla. The Tesla just feels crude compared to the Lucid.
@AdamFrugoli
@AdamFrugoli 2 күн бұрын
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168 what exactly feels crude about the Tesla? The range? I currently own a CT, Model S, Model 3 and Model Y. I've had the Model S in service once to replace a high voltage fuse. I'm just curious, it doesn't seem to be the driver assistance. It certainly is a beautiful car and the range is impressive.
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168 2 күн бұрын
@@AdamFrugoli The Tesla rides much more roughly than the Air, despite the Air being on a coil suspension and the Tesla having air suspension. The fit and finish, both inside and out, is poorer in the Tesla. The Tesla interior is noisier and remained so even after Tesla added active noise cancellation through an OTA update. The Air handles better. And the Tesla's front end breaks loose under hard acceleration more easily than the Air's, thus make the Air's power more safely accessible. Finally, the Tesla had developed squeaks and groans in the rear quarters by 10,000 miles while the Air remains rock solid at close to 30,000 miles.
@steelyspielbergo
@steelyspielbergo 2 күн бұрын
not wanting a magamobile
@AdamFrugoli
@AdamFrugoli 2 күн бұрын
@@blakespringpasturemortimer9168 good info. Enjoy!
@techalways7076
@techalways7076 2 күн бұрын
Yes
@typxxilps
@typxxilps 2 күн бұрын
Too expensive, terrible customer service here regarding network, unpredictable charging performance. Porsche offers a lot more of everything and is reliable, but the service is quite expensive. You need to get a used one for sure - even one with high mileage and well maintained will be good.
@tr0nd15c
@tr0nd15c Күн бұрын
Grand Touring + leasing my dream car in 2025 = #LucidMotors FTW. #TeslaSucks. #NoCompromises #ZeroDragCoefficient #BehindTheDesign #AutomotiveInnovation #RallyAgainstRangeAnxiety #Sapphire #BreathtakingBrilliance #Jawohl #Wunderbox #SeatMassage #SimplisticElegance #ElectricEfficiency #ZenithMetallicRed #FathomBlue #RJScarCringe #EveryMillimeterCounts #PeterRawlinson
@johnpoldo8817
@johnpoldo8817 Күн бұрын
It’s really sad 2025 Lucid has poor adas system. Lane centering and lane changes are far superior in EQS 580.
@Derpy1969
@Derpy1969 2 күн бұрын
Nice car. It would be unfortunate if they were to go bankrupt.
@petergilbert9066
@petergilbert9066 2 күн бұрын
That it would. Same with Nissan and VW who are both not far off, comparatively.
@tr0nd15c
@tr0nd15c Күн бұрын
Grand Touring + leasing my dream car in 2025 = #LucidMotors FTW. #TeslaSucks. #NoCompromises #ZeroDragCoefficient #BehindTheDesign #AutomotiveInnovation #RallyAgainstRangeAnxiety #Sapphire #BreathtakingBrilliance #Jawohl #Wunderbox #SeatMassage #SimplisticElegance #ElectricEfficiency #ZenithMetallicRed #FathomBlue #RJScarCringe #EveryMillimeterCounts #PeterRawlinson
@wuaw2011
@wuaw2011 19 сағат бұрын
Fast charging equals faster battery degradation? Do OEMs that fast charge like Taycan just care less about degradation? Why don’t you guys talk about it? As an owner of EV I care much more about how much battery I’ll still have in a few years vs how fast it charges (5-10 minutes faster or slower) Just caring about speed and not longevity makes me feel like you guys view EVs as throw away appliances
@LJLion
@LJLion 2 күн бұрын
The point should be made not to run cars out during these races, it's not a great look to the car, the manufacturer and the furtherance of the adoption. It ought to be part of your rules, 5 to 10% buffer is comfortable enough for proper charging, same way as not to drive above 10 to 15 miles above the speed limit, because here in the Great State of Texas or likely other States, it is considered excessive speeding, a misdemeanor charge and carries $500 fines and even jail time. However I enjoyed the Lucid content; Jordan's Washington trip was the highlight, especially those drone shots. Lucid Air is a beauty in person as I got to see it at Electrify Expo and lease deals on this thing are tempting. Too bad, I'm a truck enthusiast not so of a Sedan aficionado.
@DavidVanderburgh
@DavidVanderburgh Күн бұрын
Too many compromises. Range and efficiency are great. (Aptera promises even better stats, but compromises even more). Lucid Hardware is great, but software stinks. This is where Tesla eats everyone’s lunch. I drive a fair amount for a retiree…25 k a year, with multiple road trips. Own Tesla MY and MX. A good size EV van with decent 300++ range with great software and supercharger infrastructure would be ideal. Not an option here in the states…so MX is it. FSD is not perfect and certainly not autonomous. However even in its current state, a superb tool. I use it 95 % of my driving time. Ironically the heated steering wheel was very important for me initially…now I hardly touch the wheel. Very frustrated with current autos: if lucky I have 20 more years of driving in my life- need more good choices outside of Tesla.
@MondernMan
@MondernMan 2 күн бұрын
I have a hard time believing that Lucid will be around for very long - the Saudis are going to get fed up with the YUGE losses per car at some point, though the losses seemed to have improved to $155k per car down from over $200k in the q3 24 cash flow statement (still something is odd about the revenue #). Why anyone would buy a Lucid new is beyond me, they're like $50k off for a less than 1 year old vehicle. Kyle's rant about a Taycan or Sapphire as the 'best EV' is beyond ridiculous.....
@tr0nd15c
@tr0nd15c 2 күн бұрын
You are way out of your league & don’t appreciate/understand how elite their efficiency, powertrain and first class comfortable their luxury amenities really are. I’m buying my Grand Touring mid early/mid 2025 and then I’m purchasing another Grand Touring for my parents in May/June of 2025. Good luck with your bullsh*t won’t survive thesis.
@MondernMan
@MondernMan Күн бұрын
@ read the lasted cash flow statement & search auto trader for used vehicles if you think what I’m saying is BS Ask your mom for help if you don’t know
@MondernMan
@MondernMan Күн бұрын
@@tr0nd15cJust go look at the latest cash flow statement or search for used prices - it's not hard Ask your mom for help if you don't know how to do either.....
@lawrencejob
@lawrencejob 2 күн бұрын
When will manufacturers figure out DRL PWM frequencies? The flickering looks so bad on the videos that are meant to sell the cars
@petergilbert9066
@petergilbert9066 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, come on guys, you know who you are. Nikon, Canon, GoPro. Sort it out for our man here.
@andykaiser7547
@andykaiser7547 2 күн бұрын
I like to and want to drive my car. I have no need for driver assistance. But to each their own. If we're headed for all self driving vehicles, then just invest in public transportation and call it good for everyone.
@grizzlymartin1
@grizzlymartin1 2 күн бұрын
Here’s what you need to know about self driving: #1. It will happen when and only when cars “talking to each other“ becomes standard on all transportation vehicles just like airbags and seatbelts, etc. (way more to this than meets the eye). #2. Universal internet connectivity to predictably facilitate same.
@DavidMossMGS
@DavidMossMGS 2 күн бұрын
How much pride/ego do you have to say you don’t need driver assistance? Future is here buddy
@RealElectech
@RealElectech Күн бұрын
FSD is amazing. I want the option to let the car completely take over and do other things. Driving can be awesome, a ton of fun, but most driving in routine traffic at low speeds is actually just a chore and waste of time.
@coryschulz6805
@coryschulz6805 Күн бұрын
Just go to the conclusion and save your time.
@rosmarin2438
@rosmarin2438 2 күн бұрын
1:20
@vhol93
@vhol93 2 күн бұрын
1:00:28 lol lol
@zachlafond2652
@zachlafond2652 2 күн бұрын
Great car if you are a trillionaire
@RONderluck
@RONderluck 2 күн бұрын
Why do you have to be a trillionaire? It’s not that expensive.
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168 2 күн бұрын
Check out the Lucid Air lease deals. They are surprisingly affordable.
@RONderluck
@RONderluck 2 күн бұрын
@ Not for poor people.
@petergilbert9066
@petergilbert9066 2 күн бұрын
You are right, these cars are so good I want to buy 12 million of them. Damn I wish I was a trilllionaire!
@RONderluck
@RONderluck 2 күн бұрын
@@petergilbert9066 you’re clearly a child
@saltyfish5244
@saltyfish5244 2 күн бұрын
I just hope the Gravity is already selling. No consumer sedan is really comfortable.
@DavidMossMGS
@DavidMossMGS 2 күн бұрын
“No sedan is comfortable”
@TheoPhilpot
@TheoPhilpot 2 күн бұрын
Go sit in a Volvo s90
@saltyfish5244
@saltyfish5244 Күн бұрын
@ I’ll definitely try! I’m hoping they’ll make a fully electric version. The 2024 Model 3 was my first sedan, and it’s not very comfortable, while the Model X from a few years back is much smoother
@AirmanJH
@AirmanJH 2 күн бұрын
Honestly, it doesn't matter to me how great a product is (and I love what I see with this car), I could never buy a car from a company that doesn't have a viable business model. Not only is this car more expensive than most people can afford, Lucid is still losing $227,000 for every car they sell. I could not imagine stretching my finances to buy a car that may not be supported after the company is forced into bankruptcy. I wish they had a clear pathway to profitability, but I can't see it.
@NO3V
@NO3V 2 күн бұрын
Wouldn't really think a car produced with minus 200% gross margin is especially impressive. Wouldn't really risk buying a car from a company that might not exist in a year because of those margins. Wouldn't at all buy a car from a company that only exists today, despite its margins, because of several cash infusions (more or less directly) by Mohammed bin Salman.
@vickykennel7414
@vickykennel7414 2 күн бұрын
Capital investment are fixed costs, they will come down as the produce more cars, SUV, midsize....
@NO3V
@NO3V 2 күн бұрын
@vickykennel7414 you are saying that as if Lucid doesn't objectively have the worst margins in the entire industry and has been "producing more cars" for three years now. There are (former) EV startups that never had a yearly negative gross margin as a public company. *cough
@petergilbert9066
@petergilbert9066 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, why would you want a car made by a company that have put so much investment in time and money to produce one of the most technically advanced cars on the market just to sell it at a competitive price. Represents to much value if you ask me. I want a car that they are making high margins on. Just knock summin out cheap as you can and charge me the earth for it and I'm all in. Plus Gravity is sure to be a flop, I mean who wants SUV's these days!
@NO3V
@NO3V 2 күн бұрын
@petergilbert9066 because people want service and parts Ask Fisker owners.
@petergilbert9066
@petergilbert9066 Күн бұрын
@@NO3V Me too, but Audi took over a year to fix my car. Maybe I should have bought a Tesla, Lucid or Rivian then they probably would have built it without faults and useless software in the first place. Or issued a fix over the air rather than being in and out the workshop for weeks at a time!
@Kaluminat
@Kaluminat 2 күн бұрын
do people actually watch hours of this content ? every video posted is minimum 1 hour. I wish it was reduced to being something digestable. 30min or less. you would gain subscribers and watchers for sure !
@karlwolf2
@karlwolf2 2 күн бұрын
I watch them all while I sleep there is something about Kyle voice
@Kaluminat
@Kaluminat 2 күн бұрын
@karlwolf2 lmao
@brandenflasch
@brandenflasch 2 күн бұрын
Plenty of people watch them
@razissweet
@razissweet 2 күн бұрын
I listen while I’m at work cause I can’t really “watch” the videos. They are so information heavy that I can keep my mind busy just listening to these videos without having to find another video to watch for a hour to hour and a half. Keep them coming Kyle!
@Kaluminat
@Kaluminat 2 күн бұрын
@@brandenflasch oh yeah i see the view counts but i can't fathom people got this much time to spend on a 1-2h video for instance. When i go on the channel it's astounding the size of them vids. Anyway just trying to see if I'm alone in wanting shorter content
@2013AirForce
@2013AirForce 2 күн бұрын
Lucid owners have become the new Tesla owners lol.
@RONderluck
@RONderluck 2 күн бұрын
That’s not true at all
@msbgone
@msbgone 2 күн бұрын
huh.
@stirlingfromla
@stirlingfromla 2 күн бұрын
PLEASE tell me there is a TL;DR (view) version of this 90 MINUTE VIDEO...... WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
@PeteLenz
@PeteLenz Күн бұрын
The seating ergonomics would be a complete no for me! I had a 2019 BMW that was awful in that regard. (Only car I got rid of with 20k miles)
@vickykennel7414
@vickykennel7414 2 күн бұрын
AIR starts at 70k, not 130k car....why do you lie?
@TheReal_JG
@TheReal_JG 2 күн бұрын
This car is the longer range GT version, it's not the Pure.
@vickykennel7414
@vickykennel7414 Күн бұрын
@@TheReal_JG still….they should say range starts at 70k….
@MsAjax409
@MsAjax409 2 күн бұрын
As impressive as the Lucid Air is, I will never buy a car that doesn't have FSD.
@RONderluck
@RONderluck 2 күн бұрын
Why do you care about FSD? FSD drives like a 15-year-old with a learners permit?
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168 2 күн бұрын
So what do you buy? Tesla may sell "FSD", but it doesn't sell full self-driving.
@rctezluh42069
@rctezluh42069 2 күн бұрын
@@RONderluck except you are wrong it is better than humans NOW
@RONderluck
@RONderluck 2 күн бұрын
@ what????
@RONderluck
@RONderluck 2 күн бұрын
@ No it’s not.
@CanisoGaming
@CanisoGaming 2 күн бұрын
6:00 well they fookin obviously engineered it to be efficient only at that speed & not higher, its not a coincidence or whatever, they just didnt know how to make it efficient on higher speeds. At that price tag you'd think they would go through the effort of making it efficient through & through but hey 🤷
@lowvaeater
@lowvaeater 2 күн бұрын
show me an EV that's efficient above 70 miles/h
@CanisoGaming
@CanisoGaming 2 күн бұрын
@lowvaeater easy, 2024 Tesla model 3 RWD
@lowvaeater
@lowvaeater 2 күн бұрын
@@CanisoGaming Lol, whats the EPA? don't mix it with WLTP, and its a lighter car with much less space.
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168 2 күн бұрын
We have a 2021 Model S Plaid and a 2022 Lucid Air Dream Performance, both on 21" wheels. At range testing in controlled conditions with the cruise controls set at 82 mph (a true 80 mph in both cars), the Model S gets 72-73% of its EPA-rated range of 348 miles. The Air gets 78-79% of its rated range of 451 miles. Thus, in real-world highway driving, the Air has over 100 miles more range than the Model S. Aerodynamic drag increases exponentially with speed, and EPA testing is not gaited to sustained high-speed driving. No one should expect to see EPA range figures at high speeds. However, when driving at those speeds, Lucid range easily exceeds that of any other EV.
@otm646
@otm646 2 күн бұрын
All this has done is show how little you know about aerodynamics. No other vehicle on the road has this type of drag optimization.
@PeteLenz
@PeteLenz Күн бұрын
I watch these reviews and think about whether or not I’d invest in the company based on what I learned. Lucid? Absolutely not. Too bad, we need a Tesla killing competitor.
@tr0nd15c
@tr0nd15c 2 күн бұрын
Grand Touring + leasing my dream car in 2025 = #TeslaSucks. #LucidMotors #NoCompromises #ZeroDragCoefficient #BehindTheDesign #AutomotiveInnovation #RallyAgainstRangeAnxiety #Sapphire #BreathtakingBrilliance #Jawohl #Wunderbox #SeatMassage #SimplisticElegance #ElectricEfficiency #ZenithMetallicRed #FathomBlue #RJScarCringe #EveryMillimeterCounts #PeterRawlinson
@RealElectech
@RealElectech Күн бұрын
So way slower than a Plaid, no summon, no FSD, no rear entertainment screen, no rear hatch, poor ergonomics, buggy software, mediocre sound system, no NACS support and when it does get it only 45 kW limit on V3 (every current Tesla charger).... all for significantly more money. Yeah sounds great 😂
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168
@blakespringpasturemortimer9168 19 сағат бұрын
We have a 2021 Model S Plaid (replaced our 2015 P90D) and a 2022 Lucid Air Dream Performance. Although the Plaid is technically a tick quicker to 60, its front end comes so loose under hard acceleration that the Air's power is more safely accessible. While the Air's software was initially a hot mess, the introduction of UX 2.0 and its progeny of OTA updates has now given us a car with a better overall control suite (the combination of screen controls with manual, tactile controls) than the Tesla, not to mention a birds-eye-view display, CarPlay, the ability to read a USB music stick -- all features missing in the Tesla. The Plaid developed squeaks and groans in the rear quarters by 10,000 miles. At 30,000 miles the Air remains rock solid. The Air also has a more compliant ride and better handling, as well as a quieter interior. And the Air's interior space is in a different league from the Plaid's. With the driver seat of both cars set to my preferred driving position, there is 9.5" more of fore/aft rear legroom in the Air than in the Plaid. In fact, if we are carrying rear seat passengers, we invariably leave the Plaid at home and take the Air. In fact, even if it's just one or two of us, we usually take the Air. It's just so much more pleasant a car to drive and to sit in.
@BillyONeal
@BillyONeal 15 сағат бұрын
Tesla doesn't have summon either these days 😢
@RealElectech
@RealElectech 15 сағат бұрын
@BillyONeal I literally use the summon on my Tesla almost every day to pull in and out of my garage, and regularly use Actual Smart Summon to bring the car from its parking spot to pick me up. Banish mode (drop you off and go park itself) coming soon...
@BillyONeal
@BillyONeal 15 сағат бұрын
@RealElectech then you have one old enough to still have the radar
@RealElectech
@RealElectech 14 сағат бұрын
@BillyONeal nah they updated that like 8 months ago, they can all do summon again
@chassdesk
@chassdesk 2 күн бұрын
No FSD no care!
@CookiePepper
@CookiePepper 2 күн бұрын
No NACS, no FSD. No thanks.
@RONderluck
@RONderluck 2 күн бұрын
FSD drives like a 15-year-old with their learners permit
@otm646
@otm646 2 күн бұрын
With 500 miles of range, how many times a year are you actually ever going to even touch public infrastructure? Unless you're continuously driving cross country it doesn't matter.
@RealElectech
@RealElectech Күн бұрын
​@@RONderluckFSD is amazing. Nothing like a "15 year old". You're about 2 years behind.
@RONderluck
@RONderluck Күн бұрын
@ I just updated my FSD to 13.2 last night and tested it this morning and yup, still drives like a 15 year old with their permit.
@RealElectech
@RealElectech Күн бұрын
@RONderluck lmao no you didn't. 13.2 has only been released to like 10 influencers. Where's your video?
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