The Others Will Steal Jon's Body (Winds of Winter Theory)

[@g_wylde]

I think Coldhands managed to stay 'himself' after being wighted because he was a skinchanger. His consciousness survived inside his Elk just long enough that he could hop back into his own body when it was re-animated. If that sets the precedent, then Jon could be wighted but get his own consciousness back from Ghost, leaving him a free-thinking wight who would be invulnerable to winter and the Others but still capable to take the post of King of Winter.

[@nexus6163]

Maybe as long as he’s connected to ghost he can’t die. BUT we saw a warg before earlier in the story and he died.

[@RangerofWallachia]

@@nexus6163 Varamyr? Is Varamyr really dead didnt he escape in his wolf body?

[@happybee7725]

Your names “Beers” ? Thats weird my second name is just straight up “Beer”.

[@The_lord_666]

@@RangerofWallachia nay not Varymr, I believe nexus may be talking about Orell. He was running around with Mance Rayder group while Jon was fucking Ygritte

[@AveTrueToCaesar8212]

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[@johnnysmall]

Random thought: an upgrade from “Lord Snow” would essentially be “King Ice”

[@DavidLightbringer]

"King Ice," I love it. Cue the Vanilla Ice!

[@PP-kx9ec]

"King Winter" maybe? Since there is winterfell I thought

[@ProfessorArgus]

Or...King Cold.

[@fenzelian]

A downgrade of “Lord Snow” would be “Mister Freeze”

[@PP-kx9ec]

Captain cold

[@careybrooks3072]

"A villian is a hero of the OTHER side." -GRRM

[@gurumencotti]

I also love the fact that in the stark family, Jon is the other. He is part of the family but not entirely. He isn’t the full brother of the other stark children

[@ericvulgate]

you don't say

[@TGBGameplay]

Amazing

[@ldariusd21]

George said that about both Ghost and Jon and said they're both the odd one out but both are siblings to their brothers and sisters which also made me think Jon is really Ned's son because we know how cryptic George can be when he doesn't want to answer a question that could spoil or give something away. Ned was saddened that Jon wouldn't want be able to get a pup and finds it strange when he calls him Lord Stark instead of father.

[@hiddendagger7291]

there are enough references in books that jon might end up ned's son a real son not bastard

[@ldariusd21]

@@hiddendagger7291 it really is! Finally somebody who really pay attention to the books instead of looking for evidence on him being r+l=J. Because he's definitely not Rhaegar's son and people should understand that from the first book. When he says he haven't thought about the man in years lol but how when his son is with u all the time? Because that's not his damn son! And George even said himself that before the show he was aware of the biggest theories and that the most popular one is wrong smh his wife even said he wouldn't do something so simple and cliché.

[@jschoma11]

LmL, dont abandon your post. You're the last content creator with things left to say. Much love brother

[@DavidLightbringer]

I gotcha brother !

[@Twxvkvr]

Well yes, but no. I luv this guys videos, but Alt Shift X still uploads great theories and stories about ASOIAF. I recommend you and anyone else to go watch rm

[@Bukejuice22]

@@Twxvkvr indeepgeek posts good stuff too.

[@Twxvkvr]

@@Bukejuice22 will watch him, thnx

[@ceilingfanenthusiast6041]

Literally every cooky asoiaf youtube channel gets the same comments lol. Order of the Greenhand, Preston Jacobs, The Disputed Lands, Secrets of the Citadel, Talking Thrones, Joe Magician and on and on. On top of that, all of them spot "symbols and clues hiding in plain sight" and yet all of them draw different conclusions. A great example is the complete lack of consensus on the parenthood/childhood of Jon, Danaerys and young Griff. Each channel has absolute belief in their own theory but think that R+L=J or N +A =J or B+ A =J or Hotpie +Lommie =J is nonsense. I've watched so much Order of the Greenhand. I've watched so much Preston Jacobs. And I've watched a smattering of the other channels I mentioned. The only credible channel imo is Alt Shift X. Alt Shift covers the basic theories. I think the theoried he covers are the obviously true ones. All the other channels think they're "too obvious" and trust in the genius of George. They think that because Euron talks about praying against the crabs in his belly, he has a psychic link with Hoster Tully or that because two characters say the same phrase theyre the same person (Arthur Dayne is Mance, Ashara Dayne is Septon Lemore etc etc etc). The theories don't stop. All have equally tenuous evidence and only one interpretation can be right.

[@joejejeo]

Also interesting how these symbolic "others" pledge themselves to Lord Crow and not the Nights Watch, he is their King already, besides probably being King in the North as per Robbs will. Awesome vid, thanks LmL.

[@isaacsanford6340]

An important detail because it undermines the solidity of the Night's Watch in a castle full of wildlings whose king was just murdered by who? Buncha crows.

[@LNGD_46]

Melissandre might get a heart attack watching this video....all that azor ahai shit actually meant to bring the long night.😂😭😂😭

[@DavidLightbringer]

That heart attack is coming for her one way or the other ;)

[@gagstersps3]

@@DavidLightbringer probably the "other" way ;)

[@Cissablack708]

Joe magician's "killing of a ranger" video actually kind of confirms a core bit of your theory. It's a very good and interesting video. It shows how the very first chapter of A song of Ice and Fire was The Other's setting a trap for Ser Waymar Royce because they thought he was a Stark and they're waiting for a Stark of a certain age to come to them with certain qualities that very much make it seem as if the Others do have their own kind of prophecy. A Azor Ahai of their own that they're waiting to save them or even doom them. I think Azor Ahai and The Last Hero are two sides of the same coin. A foil for the other and evenly matched in different ways. Love the video. I truly think you're on to something here.

[@DavidLightbringer]

Yeah, I actually was on the follow up livestream to that video, back when we were friends. It’s a strong theory and I discussed my take on the prologue in the A New Nights King video and an older one called We Should Start Back: AGOT Prologue

[@ironshard360]

Could that be why Ben goes missing north of the wall?

[@chrisd6287]

The meteor destroying the wall might be the coolest theory I've ever heard and it makes so much damn sense! The series literally starts talking about it being an omen. Oh my, you sir are good.

[@DavidLightbringer]

Sometimes meteors kill all the meat eaters

[@Commendatori]

@@DavidLightbringer METEOR, METEOR!

[@thelaughingstormbornagain1297]

I think Martin has created characters that'll stand the test of time. Like Batman , Bilbo and Darth Vader. Jon Snow is a character that people will look back on forever.

[@TriflingWhiteBoy]

Fax

[@arkhamsquire4503]

I feel like the legacy of game of thrones hangs on the thread of Martin finishing the books. He'll definitely finish the Winds Of Winter and I want to hope he'll finish A Dream Of Spring atleast 6 years after Winds.

[@SherlockHolmesb-kp4ru]

​@@arkhamsquire4503It is questionable that he would even that long . He is not the most cautious of individuals that do whatever they can for their bodily health . In the next 4-5 years , the winds of winter will be released and hopefully nothing will happen to george in that time . But the dream of spring will remain a dream like its name , I don't see george living that long .

[@stewiebalew6446]

I think Kit Harrington cemented that. He did a really good job with what he was given.

[@lrlavalais2068]

​@@stewiebalew6446He did indeed!

[@bullwerethepurple9042]

Oh my, Jon ressurected in a flurry of snow, as Dany was ressurected in a flurry of ashes. My parallelitis is flaring up something awful - your stuff just gets better and better, LmL 🤩

[@russwilliams4464]

Maester Aemon’s words to John resonate here, within the context of this theory - perhaps it’s John’s love for his family that is the death of his duty to lead the walkers - maybe this is what thaws / frees him from his icy resurrection as new Nights King, and allows him to return to the side of the living?

[@DavidLightbringer]

The the death of death duty, I like it a lot :)

[@PedroLucas-mg5je]

Jon, at the first time, chose his duty to the Night's Watch over his love for Ygritte, but now, Jon will choose his love for his siblings over his duty to be the King of the Others!

[@MrTylerStricker]

Totally agree with the Others looking for Jon Snow beginning around the time of his birth. Also remember that the Others killed Waymar Royce & his party most likely because the Others were initially looking for Jon & mistakenly thought Waymar was Jon. They obviously quickly figured out he wasn't when they killed him, but still just more proof that they are indeed looking for Jon & know of him perhaps through prophecy or some unknown magical means.

[@DavidLightbringer]

Absolutely! I talked about that piece of the puzzle in the A New Nights King video actually :)

[@poseidonc1259]

I think Jon Snow met ‘Cold-Hands’ without realizing it in ‘A Clash of Kings’ - Jon IV (Chapter 34). Jon Snow walked past a hooded Man, who was garbed in the blacks of The Night’s Watch, as he followed his Direwolf, Ghost, to the RECENTLY buried cloak with all of the Obsidian/Frozen-Fire/Dragon-Glass &, don’t forget, the mysterious “broken” Black Horn (potentially The Horn of Winter). This man is supposedly one of the Watchmen guarding the perimeter of The Fist of The First Men, & it is said that he “never even looked to see if Jon had a bucket.” Ghost behaved strangely, disregarding Jon consistently & then led him to the hidden cache of ancient weaponry which Jon remarks must have been placed there recently.

[@DavidLightbringer]

Wow that’s wild! I’ll have to reread that part

[@poseidonc1259]

@@DavidLightbringer it is near the 3/4 mark of the chapter. There is also a ton of Children of The Forest/Forest Spirit/Living Tree imagery going on during that chapter that put me in mind of Bloodraven as well. So because of that I was on high alert for any other information of significance. Dywin smelled “Cold” as well, yet no ambush from dead Wights nor The Others occurred during that night. Maybe Dywin was smelling Cold-Hands specifically? There is not much stated about the Watchman in that moment, but it is said that he called out a challenge. Jon stepped into the torchlight & said he needed to fetch water for the Lord Commander [Jeor Mormont]. Jon saw the man huddled beneath his black cloak with his hood pulled up against the wind. The man “never even looked to see if Jon had a bucket.” I think it was Cold-Hands & he did not want Jon to see his face, nor any of his other features. He called a challenge, but then he also never even looked? Suspicious. It seems that he saw Jon, then turned away & did what he thought would throw suspicion away from himself.

[@salpimienta2961]

This is amazing.

[@poseidonc1259]

@@salpimienta2961 I agree with you. I suspect that Ghost is being skin-changed to behave differently also.

[@salpimienta2961]

@@poseidonc1259 Yup! This is a great little find, I think - well played. As if that chapter wasn't atmospheric enough already!

[@guillermoazuara8088]

Absolutely LOVE the outside the box thinking. You're the most original and entertaining ASOIAF channel! Keep it up

[@ng8530]

Indeed, he is ❤

[@spinakker14]

yeah, my favourite theories come from him (and Quinn and JoeMagician and Robert). He renewed my love for this series

[@joshhoffman5233]

spinakker i put Preston Jacobs in this group. Crackpotty but I like them

[@rangerofthenorth21]

No matter how you look at it , whether it's Jon's life and character annihilation in the tv show or all the foreshadowing in the books , Jon's life is truly tragic . As much as I like the character it would have been a mercy to have died with his mother or have been better for him not to be born at all .

[@DavidLightbringer]

well he'll have the satisfaction of saving the world, so there is that. But yeah Jon walks a tough road man

[@PedroLucas-mg5je]

I imagine Jon having these niihilistics thoughts after ressurrection if it either Shireen gets burned and Ghost is killed to bring him back or after the reveal of his real parentage that will make him feels absolutely guilty for, through his parents' actions, almost ending the lineages of the Dragonkings and the Kings of Winter and starts to have the feeling that everything bad that happens in Westeros are his and his parents' fault!

[@mattiaachille233]

@@PedroLucas-mg5je If his body is possessed to kill people and make the realm suffer; it’s the PERFECT parallel to Rhaegar and Lyanna choosing ‘love’ and damning the world. Jon thought he was gonna save ‘Arya’ from rape and an arranged marriage just like Rhaegar did with Lyanna and the realm SUFFERED. He chose love over duty.

[@masonmullins7228]

I don’t think Jon is that pessimistic. In the books a the show he seemed like the perfect combination of honorable and capable, and I think that’s enough for him. I think there’s a parallel to be made between Jon and Job of the Bible. He’s going to lose everything, but he lived and died a bastard and always saw himself that way, but was always able to keep the resentment of that to himself. He never made it anyone else’s problem and always went above and beyond to do what he believes is right to make up for the fact that in his culture he is less than. He is the most “it is what it is” character ever.

[@declanmiles2985]

Perhaps the others are so interested in Jon because he's like them, Ice & Fire. In the others' case, the fire comes from Azor Ahai and the ice comes from Night's Queen. Both cases are a marriage of sorts between ice & fire.

[@DavidLightbringer]

exactly, he might be the most potent blood sacrifice around!

[@cheesesticks1234able]

in clash when jon finds the cache of dragonglass (which is also a dragon locked in ice of the fist of the first men, basically like jon finding his own grave) it says"Beneath the dragonglass was an old warhorn, made from an auroch's horn and banded in bronze. Jon shook the dirt from inside it, and a stream of arrowheads fell out. **He let them fall**"

[@DavidLightbringer]

That’s a great moon meteor metaphor too!

[@paulstrife]

It isn't a coincidence that Cold Hands has an animal accomplice. I think the relation is that they're both able to Warg. The others turn them upon death, while they jumped into their animal. They then fought to recover their re-animated body back.

[@drippinwet774]

Dany must be a warg, too. She has 3 dragon accomplices.

[@prinzejr628]

White walkers are looking for a green seer , someone who can control the body of the dead or the living . They know it's a Stark. But jon is the one who looks the most like the og brother of the night king aka the 14 lord n commander. If I missed. Something correct me . I'm half asleep

[@DavidLightbringer]

Naw that’s close enough C+

[@Paolur]

Never really thought about this before but using bones as armor actually makes a lot of sense, you're not gonna be slashing anyone deeply who has bone armor.

[@tchambers807]

If the red comet signaled the return of dragons to the world it seems reasonable to assume another event could cause a comet that might crack the moon, triggering the long night. Maybe a blue comet? Maybe it comes after the others resurrect Jon's corpse?

[@DavidLightbringer]

Keep an eye on those horns to

[@spinakker14]

Also, there's a theory that says back then a (Stark) baby had been promised to the Others (just like how Craster gives his sons to them), but it wasn't fulfilled, so now the Others come to take their Prince that was Promised to them, i.e. Jon. Or something like this

[@DavidLightbringer]

Yes, I’ve actually broken down that idea in a podcast series called “Blood of the Other.” There’s a lot to support it. Tell you what though, I’d appreciate it if you’d not drop that name here in this place. There’s a lot of bad blood between us. No apologies needed of course, just... we aren’t friends. His ideas aren’t original either. I do like the video about Waymar however, it is solid no doubt. Just not original.

[@spinakker14]

@@DavidLightbringer sorry, I didn't know that

[@DavidLightbringer]

@@spinakker14 dude no worries. Like I said it's a good video, no wonder you might have thought of it. Cheers

[@TheOnlyElle.]

An early video! yaaay! I love the line that mentions the "memory" of warmth "fleeing" from John's body, as if that warmth is being pushed out by an immense force.. excellent :)

[@DavidLightbringer]

I took it that way too!

[@TheOnlyElle.]

@@DavidLightbringer ...so it is written

[@imnotamon]

Fight back against the algorithm, brother. This was a good way to start the morning ☄️💫

[@PedroKrick]

GOT: arya kills night king, not jon. Grrm mad with the show writing ADoS: arya kills the nights king Jon

[@DavidLightbringer]

Honesty I’ve wondered about this. The Arya “gave the spirit a punch” thing... what if stabbing him with dragon glass or V steel helps drive out the Other magic?

[@PedroKrick]

@@DavidLightbringer oh cool, I can see that happening in some way

[@pedrodias7566]

My mind exploded

[@jayluna8534]

Maybe a “mercy” kill

[@idrees1995]

It would be poetic that Jon gave Arya the sword needle to pursue her fighting endeavours yet it'll be Arya to come full circle and finish what Jon initially gave her.

[@CommieBukkakie]

Maybe after all the body snatching/re-possessing is over, Jon will have one red eye and one blue eye. Probably too much to hope for, but the symbolism would be 🤌

[@TGBGameplay]

Jon is inside the Wall when he thinks about it falling. Maybe Jon’s resurrection will be the ultimate trigger or perhaps the if Euron blows the horn it will call the Others to the Wall and to Jon and resurrect him with their ice magic

[@_addison4772]

Perfect... tho I am not convinced R+L=J, but as GRRM said you can’t bring back someone back from the dead without losing something

[@_addison4772]

To add to my reason why R+L≠J is that the Nights King is Stark ... not a Targarian. #B+A=J

[@loganobrien6731]

@@_addison4772 Whos B

[@_addison4772]

@@loganobrien6731 Brandon Stark, Neds older brother

[@ATaha-ml4ir]

@@_addison4772 then again, he has the stark blood from lyanna if R+L=J is true. Shouldnt that be enough? Kinda like how Robert laid his claim to the iron throne toward's the end of his rebellion based on his targaryean lineage (through Rhaelle marrying Ormund, his grandfather). A bit of a stretch but kinda makes sense imo.

[@jovedo27]

@@_addison4772 huh?

[@Ivbo]

*"Ah, it's you, Lord Snow" Dywen smiled an oaken smile; his teeth were carved of wood, and fit badly, "Thought me and the boy had us one o' them Others to deal with. Lose your wolf?"* - I’m reading through the books for the first time and I came across this today in Clash Of Kings, another subtle foreshadowing for Jon possibly becoming the new Night King.

[@Airehcaz]

LML I wish you all the success in the world! you’re always putting out fantastic content with surprising frequency. I’m quite insecure right now, financially speaking, so I can’t contribute now...but I definitely watch all these ads and click on them! More than once. Hopefully that helps in some way lol

[@DavidLightbringer]

❤️❤️❤️

[@r3troraccoon707]

Maester Aemon told Jon he must kill the boy inside and let the man be born. This could also foreshadow the fire/youthful part of him dies, and he becomes a colder/mature man.

[@howardhavardramberg333]

Woah, did you just read my mind dude? At work with an hour left needing something to listen to and *BOOM* LmL's out with straight fire.

[@neruki6336]

This amount of symbolism is incredible, no wonder he take so long to write his books.

[@DavidLightbringer]

Sometimes I feel like it helps him right faster, because it gives him a template to work from, but other times yeah, the story is so layered and artistic that it’s just not something you can bang out real quick

[@brandonlambert9768]

Your Euron and Dany videos are among the best ASOIAF video essays on KZbin. Correction, all your ASOIAF video essays are the best on KZbin.

[@DavidLightbringer]

🥰🥰🥰

[@TGBGameplay]

I shall second this good sir

[@CZ-dg7te]

There's foreshadowing for all the Stark characters. Bran's eye's big as saucers = foreshadows how much he'll see in the past, Robb leads them farther, Robb took them past Grandfather, Brandon and Lyanna = Foreshadows Robb's success in his war campaign being better than his grandfather's southern ambitions, and following Brandon and Lyanna to early grace as he's leading the Stark children to both their (Brandon and Lyanna's) graves, but his actions could lead them to *their* the Stark children's death too, spider's = foreshadow it's Vary's that Arya comes across him in the cellars of the keep during that scene, Rats as big as dogs = could foreshadow the Hound in that, "there are worse things than spiders and rats" = there are worse things than varys and the hound, sansa running shrieking for stairs = her running away from the family she accidentally betrays her father to the queen and then later to the eyrie is very high up like stairs, bran wrapped himself around Robb's leg and sobs = bran won't walk again, John covered in flour = (a stretch) What if some part of the magic to get Jon back into control of his body involves a Flower like the blue roses of winterfell or albeit more likely covered in flowers is reminds me of a coffin covered in flowers just more death imagery, the punch could = the punch that kills him, but what if the Arya's punch = a liquid punch/potion of some kind she learns in bravos, you scared the baby = maybe Jon is stopped just before almost killing/converting Gilly's baby?, them all laughing in the end might be showing a similar end fate, we know robb is dead and that jon ends up mostly dead, does that mean Bran and Arya end up some kind of dead (Bran subsumed into the weirwood net, Arya into whatever faceless magic she's invovled in?)

[@DavidLightbringer]

hey that's pretty good Claire, the part about Sansa and Bran convinced me. I think the white flour serves the purpose of making him a white walker while referencing Lyanna, just that; and scaring the baby... yeah maybe that's about Monster, I agree. Or maybe just that he'll be terrifying to humans in general. nice work!

[@joshhoffman5233]

Claire Zeller also Bran recalls the old Nan story at the night Fort. The one about how mayhaps his name was Brandon. And night kings powers only seem to fit bran and bloodravens so far. I think he’s def my candidate of choice, or at the very least George is purposely trying to get us wondering about it. I mean we have no clue what the children of the forest are up to. It’s just the show that makes us think they’re benevolent to the world of men and all that.

[@dolphineachonga555]

So all Stark kids, except Sansa, are sacrificed to some God or other. John to the Wights, Arya to the faceless men and Bran to the weirwood gods. Man, this family can never escape tragedy. I hope Arya and Jon warg into their wolves and live together ever after. That would be some consolation.

[@agirlhasathousandnamesando980]

Not only are your theories and content strong, but your jokes and pop culture references make your videos extra delightful to watch. Very nice 👍😁👍

[@DavidLightbringer]

thanks! I listened to one of my older podcasts today because I'm condensing some of the Jon material for the next video, and I realized how much years of practice has helped me. You know how it is when you look at your older art or work - half of it is cringe, and half is feeling proud of something decent. Anyway glad you like it!

[@agirlhasathousandnamesando980]

Lucifer means Lightbringer you’re welcome! Well don’t be too hard on yourself. I’m a hobby baker, so to use baking terms😝... your “cake (sponge)” has always been amazing; you’re just improving your “frosting”.

[@TheCbot88]

im pretty sure the scene when "Bran could taste the blood" was the starks 'Wedding' the trees. ya think? I'm not sure what else that scene would be meaning to convey.

[@ferniek5000]

More like ~Epic Astronomy~ ... I was glued to my seat for this one. glad you didn't shorten it!

[@DavidLightbringer]

Music to my ears

[@TheCbot88]

Bran will steal try to steal Jon’s body. But they’re gonna merge into one man, man!

[@DavidLightbringer]

Oh jeez that would be freaky deaky

[@jackalackb17]

I dont think THIS resurrection will be by the others. We know by his dream that he probably fights the others on the wall at least once and I think Euron's armour proves it is a literal fight. Most likely, assuming your theories are correct in some aspects, Euron attempts to become king of the others and is defeated in a way that leads Jon to have his armour and fight off the others at the wall in a similar fashion to the Wildlings. Later Jon could allow himself to become otherized, perhaps not feeling all that human anyway as a fire wight. Question that raises for me is who plays the part of Stannis's army in Jon Snows defeating of the Other army? Dany probably, right or maybe (f)Aegon? Maybe both.

[@brandonlambert9768]

This just made my morning.

[@Nga_Babaye]

"....the others take me." Jon Snow.

[@TheBrett1890]

Maybe you mentioned this and I missed it, but another parallel between the Others and the free folk that Jon lets through is that there are about 100 kid hostages, just like there are 100 of Crasters sons.

[@DavidLightbringer]

Where is the number of his sons given?

[@TheBrett1890]

@@DavidLightbringer oh dear, after looking this up I realise they only say 99 on the show, so that's not book canon.

[@nexus6163]

I could see John snow becoming a white walker , we could speculate about all the connections in the books however the main reason I believe it’s a big possibility is because GRRM isn’t the type of author to give the main character a “happy” ending. Rather a necessary one. John- the most beloved character , the only character important enough that we see him as a baby. His birth being important is a dead give away that his death will be as well. Seeing John as just a shadow of his former self after all we’ve been through together would be equally shocking and heart breaking even if we knew it was inevitable all along.

[@celly8713]

Jon snow being a Jack Frost type character is a great connection, and Jon might even be George’s version of Jack Frost in the end which I’m ready for ☃️

[@bryanr.1171]

"I see you there, put that down"😂

[@krakentacos]

Great video with really awesome artwork. I thought Jon would comeback with red eyes after being in Ghost. I guess it depends on how he’s resurrected.

[@DavidLightbringer]

red eyes might come after he's purified by R'hllor, I'm thinking

[@Air0Sparks]

Then why would Rhaegar made sure Jon was born. He changed his whole life and then purposely stole a stark to make sure Jon happened. So would he mix ice and fire if not to correct the balance of the two powers and heal Westeros ..... also if Jon does become a cold one I can see Arya killing him.

[@DavidLightbringer]

I mean Rhaegar got a few things wrong didn’t he

[@atmaximum]

Name someone on the books that got their plans 100% like they wanted

[@rhaevan.maniyara]

Arya killing Jon would break hearts!

[@MissSeaShell]

I don't think he's suggesting that Jon will become an evil figure. Just that he might be controlled by them for a time, or possibly eventually give himself over to them as a sacrifice & as part of a pact/peace treaty with the Others. But also yeah, Rhaegar got a lot wrong about prophecy as do most other characters who attempt to prophesize.

[@isabellamego5321]

I think Jon Snow as Night king is ironically hot af

[@DavidLightbringer]

He knows when you are sleeping He knows when you’re awake He knows when you’ve been bad and just need a little spank ;)

[@cbob213]

Sweet. Been waiting for this one for a while!

[@saranonimus9211]

If GRRM keeps dragging his feet, you should finish the series. Unofficially, of course.

[@celestinamichelle5369]

I thought Corn King was kind of a stretch until it reminded me of "Children of the Corn." John has to make a human sacrifice to join the wildlings. And Corin's name even sounds like Corn. Plus we have Children of the Forest.

[@PumpkinBreath]

You’re one of my favorite channels man, keep up the great videos 🤌.

[@postvizsla7509]

I think if Jon gets resurrected he’ll come back with Targaryen silver hair but act a lot more wolf-like

[@thebeardedheathen153]

I've been wondering a lot recently about the first weapon of Azor Ahai being broken or lost, and just noticed the foreshadowing during the Othor fight when he loses his sword. With Longclaw being Valyrian Steel I'm not expecting it to be broken, but lost or taken might make sense. And that would allow him to take up his new sword Dawn (also taking him from using a bastard sword to the larger greatsword, maybe some extra symbolic icing on the cake). Anyway, I love the videos and wanted to say thank you for reigniting my passion for these books.

[@brianlowe904]

Everyone has their favorite character and Jon is mine. I think people who say he’s boring cause he’s the archetypical hero while not wrong haven’t been paying attention to the other symbolism that Imo sets him apart. Look forward to more videos related to lml blood of the others series which I recommend everyone take the time to listen to if you haven’t they’re my favorite set of video essays from lml

[@TheBrett1890]

I do like the idea that the Others started to reappear after Jon's birth, but I feel like with Craster having more than 100 children that just isn't far back enough.

[@DavidLightbringer]

Where is that stated?

[@TGBGameplay]

Crastor has many wives.

[@MissSeaShell]

With the number of wives he has he could easily have 100 sons in 14-16 years. Which is... Disturbing.

[@catherinehalverson1436]

Yasss! This is one of my favorite videos- I love your theory about what the Others might want from Jon. I think this makes a lot of sense. Great stuff!

[@brandonlambert9768]

The artwork you used is amazing

[@Devoted2Mariah]

I love this video, you point things out very cleverly, with actual evidence. You break down the clues in the sentences perfectly. Bravo, David. 🌬

[@queerlybeloved257]

been getting into your vids the past few weeks and LOVE them!!! your passion and excitement to share your thoughts and analyses are so wonderful. this week was actually kind of a rough one, but watching your vids has been a balm. just very relaxing and nice. i really like how committed you get w/ the voices, too!!! the crow voice in this one made me smile xD would totally listen to an audiobook read by you.

[@DavidLightbringer]

❤️❤️

[@bobbehwitchie]

I'm about half way through this and WOW!!!! This is amazing work LML.

[@jbird976]

Jon is such a beloved character. It makes complete sense that something awful would be in store for him 😅

[@bshaddo]

This title shows where I’m leaning before watching the video, because it’s the most logical way for the show to have basically ended up with the books. If Jon Snow is the Night King, what we saw him do in the show could easily fall to Stannis, fAegon, and finally Jorah Mormont.

[@johnmontag]

Thank you so much for another non live-stream video!! I think a large percentage of us miss these so much. Please go back to making MORE of these. I know they take WAY more time to make, but these are just amazing. Most of my favorite ASOIAF KZbinr's are doing live-streams at a minimum of 3/4 of all their posts, and it saddens me. Thank you so much for making amazing video's :-). Is your roommate Quinn done doing ASOIAF video's? The series you guys did about "The Winds of Winter" predictions is one of the best, if not THE BEST, series from any ASOIAF channel. But hope you have a great Holiday season :-)

[@DavidLightbringer]

Actually I’ve been pretty consistent with doing two scripted videos per month, that’s really all I can manage because my videos are longer than most other people’s and because I put a lot of art in my videos and change the pictures a lot. What I have tried to do recently is to make the live-streams more fast moving and topical by doing outlines as opposed to just bullshitting and carrying on. Anyway, thanks for watching, cheers

[@annabuys3985]

this is what everyone's friday needed!

[@DavidLightbringer]

aw yeah, cuz it's Friday, nobody can go anywhere, and it's always 420 somewhere

[@tool9386]

Kid Cudi drops Man on the Moon 3 on the same day LML drops the Jon Snow video. The old gods smile upon us this day.

[@jonhauge-evaldsson783]

Thank You! Outstanding deep analysis of the symbolism as always! You are the best!

[@amynurss1375]

Just got home work and tuned in! Love this. The artwork is amazing. I still hope he is Azor Hi. Jon has a great destiny, I know it.

[@blackcandel]

I'm about to listen but I've always felt Jon was all Ice and will rise an Other. Like Cat.... I'm so excited to hear your perspective!

[@jon5620]

Some real heavy-hitting stuff! I especially love the idea that like any corn king, Jon will have a winter and a spring phase. Loving the shoutout! You rule, man.

[@alecolson8360]

Best titles every time

[@HaiNguyen-up4nf]

Funny, Season 6 poster showed Jon as half-wright, possibly on his way to be Night King. I envision The Song of Ice and Fire had finally started. Sigh.

[@jintym2951]

Also I began my day with a message confirming my cool new nickname. Now after a long day at work I'm home enjoying this awesome video & my nickname shows up in the intro to last section of video. Best bookends to a day ever! Thanks so much again 😁 xx

[@DavidLightbringer]

no, thank YOU! xoxo

[@Markadown]

Loving this. Not sure how I missed this video. I knew of the theory, but finally diving into it in my LML re-binge. Is that a word? I appreciate your work and your fastidous reading of the series.

[@mormontsraven4072]

What if both Euron and Jon become Other leaders and the Others faction splits up?

[@DavidLightbringer]

damn yo... I think the closest we'd come to that is with Jon leading more Coldhands-types, maybe he learns how to free wights from Other-bondage to make them like Codlhands or something

[@viennperidot1119]

"The Prince That Was Promised"; "and His shall be the Song of Ice and Fire" And Fire has already had Azor Ahai. What if Jon Snow is the Prince that was Promised to Winter in exchange?

[@keelobrown4991]

I always thought, however unplausible, that it would have been cool if the bloodstone emperor and his followers became the Others somehow. That essos connects in the east to the land of always winter and they migrated there for some reason and then somehow became the Others. Maybe the stone bloodstone worshipped could have had something to do with it, maybe the children. A theory i know isnt true but is interesting nontheless. If your theory of azor ahai being the bloodstone emperor then becoming the nights king is true, and he played a role in creating the Others then... well this theory would be true 😂. Partly at least. I hope so. The belief in the east that his sin caused the long night itself kinda makes me wonder about it to. Would be a cool twist to have the starks be descended from the dawn empire and the opposition to the firey targaryans would be their own ancestors. Being the first dragon riders it could explain the ice dragons to. Maybe bloodstone found a way to turn his dragons into Others to.🤷‍♂️ I genuinely have always thought that azor ahai and the nights king are one and the same, nights king being the 13th commander and azor ahai having 12 companions was the first hint for me. Bloodstone also being both of them makes a lot of sense to, you laid all the evidence for that out perfectly! I mean the black stone he worshipped, a meteor possibly being responsible for the long night, the hero who was said to have beat the Others being the one to have actually created them, the first dragon riders now being the greatest opposition to the current dragon riders, the starks being potentially direct descendents of the bloodstone emperor making jon even more of a dragon than dany. Its all so juicy :D. Ps. Grrm is an absolute master of wordplay!

[@imaboxcar8459]

also the stone worshipped was the heart of a meteorite, and Dawn was forged from the heart of a meteorite

[@katyuha555]

So glad you didn't add a "frozen" Elsa scene, while talking about ice magic lol

[@beyond12021]

Love your sense of humor as well as sense of symbology

[@willforan9670]

ASOIAF content beyond comparison. You’re on another level, LML!

[@michaeldebenedetti8198]

John is the Prince that was Promised... to the Others

[@angelfire9094]

YESSS

[@michaeldebenedetti8198]

NICE NEW VIDEO TITLE TODAY🤪

[@jonasfagundes8136]

In my mother tongue there's an expression that translates to something like "a boy hunting only birds, will find only birds". It's fun to see it here. Anyway, love all the videos.

[@downtown_clownybrown]

really looking forward to reading paradise gained

[@ThisIsJASONNNN]

Bless LML with views, bless him with comments, bless him with likes. What has high viewer engagement may never die.

[@DavidLightbringer]

The ritual words of KZbin sorcery

[@pawnmurica2407]

Going to make work fly by! Thanks!!

[@noobsmoke9258]

Scorpiax here, I have nothing to add except that this is another amazing video LmL!

[@DavidLightbringer]

Glad you approve!!

[@marcuswynn89]

One time for the purp paste

[@iamjohnrobot]

sizzurp till we dizzurp

[@DavidLightbringer]

My boys

[@oscarquintero7161]

Love your content. Especially the snow, snow, snow!!!!

[@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215]

As always thank you for the fucking awesome video!

[@Sweenerdog]

the ambience in your videos are the best in the fandom. thanks for kicking so much ass, so endlessly.

[@DavidLightbringer]

Thanks so much! I made all that ambient music myself with bass guitar and lots of pedals. No synths whatsoever.

[@devoleno]

Outstanding!

[@Leah-xu2fd]

So you packed a lot of evidence into this and it was beautifully done. I love that you take passages that I know I read, I know I comprehended the words but you give them a better implication then what my first glance tends to give them. You also have structured your theories that flow very well in a completely plausible way the shake down will go in the end, both for the past events of the universe as well as the present story. Really have enjoyed how you've taken the time to deep dive into the stories past to stand on while you try to guess at the resolution. I don't know quite what it is but you do it so well. One day you and I will need to have that Night Queen chat. And I would like your take the straight Holly and Ash folktale, its not asoiaf its more that you are a guy and writing the different gender and into making them not be bad is a bitch. I trust your male mind to translate. This was a fantastic video, loved the images, loved your tone, the jokes, you have raised your own bar my friend. Keep being amazing.

[@DavidLightbringer]

Yeah let’s do it sometime! Sounds delightful :)

[@FieryReborn]

Love these Videos!

[@jintym2951]

Absolutely adored this video & looking forward to the 'other' side of the theory next time 😁 xx

[@faceless8424]

When Jon finds Ghost he says that the pup was seperated from the rest of his family. But Ned points out that he might have been driven away. It's as if Jon was being established as the Other of his family from the very start. Another point is about the children of the forest (this one is more connected to the prince that was promised theory): "Very rarely one of the children is born with mossy green or blood red eyes. A sign they have been chosen by the old gods. The chosen ones are not robust and do not live long on the earth. Once they are bound to a weirwood, they live far longer than other children." I'm wondering if this is hinting at Jon's future. Once he becomes one with Ghost (who is connected to the children and often compared to weirwoods), what will he become? And ofcourse there is this "the chosen one" theme that's being repeated here.

[@DavidLightbringer]

Hell become a new Coldhands and live long indeed!

[@user-ln7jw2qn6h]

"... while the others threw dice for the rangers gear" Then they crucified Him, and divided His garments, casting lots, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet: “They divided My garments among them, And for My clothing they cast lots.” Matthew 27:35

[@DavidLightbringer]

Ooh that makes a TON of sense, good eyes!

[@jonhauge-evaldsson783]

Qhorin Halfhand is like Jesus here. Sacrificing himself. Or the Nissa Nissa if you like. And he gets the weirwood stigmata. Bloody tears, red smile, and Ghosts bloody mouth.

[@LeonM4c]

SO EXCITED for this one, LML. Youre so great

[@DavidLightbringer]

Awww thanks!

[@Fathoms09]

Great Video!!! Thank you LmL!