Rhaegar, Dany & Jon: Aegon's Prophecy Explained p1 - House of the Dragon

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David Lightbringer

David Lightbringer

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@felooosailing957
@felooosailing957 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaegar must be mistaken, but he knew more or less where things were going. He saw a girl, and he thought of Rhaenys his daughter, when it is actually Daenerys; he saw a Boy named Aegon, and then assumed that this must be his son, when it is actually Young Griff (aka Aegon Blackfyre, a pretender pretending to be Aegon), and finally that missing third head is the one Dany has to look for: Jon Snow, for he is lost, for he is the one that does not know his lineage.
@frankiesabba
@frankiesabba Жыл бұрын
I love the “for he” touch, really brings it together
@warpedwhimsical
@warpedwhimsical Жыл бұрын
Really don’t think young griff is going to be one of Daenerys’ three heads
@ACinemafanatic
@ACinemafanatic 7 ай бұрын
@@warpedwhimsicalcan you imagine if it’s Arya
@Brigsgirl22
@Brigsgirl22 Ай бұрын
Or Tyrion!
@KaantheKaan
@KaantheKaan 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that the direct link of the prophecy going from King Aegon to Rhaenyra will be broken due to the Dance. Aegon II doesn't know, and Rhaenyra will probably tell Jacerys, but be unable to pass it on to Aegon III. The prophecy will be lost until Daeron II's reign, with Aerys rediscovering parts of it in books and Daeron the Drunk dreaming it constantly. Then with Aemon, Egg and some dreams the prophecy reaches Rhaegar.
@crowningtesla
@crowningtesla 2 жыл бұрын
I could also see the dagger playing a role as a family heirloom. Aegon II has it right now, so he or his heirs could find the text on it even if they don't know the full context of the Dream
@johnpotts8308
@johnpotts8308 2 жыл бұрын
Since Rhaegar seems to have read it somewhere, I guess one of the Kings told the high Maester (who wrote it down). Since transmission from King to heir had proved problematic several times historically, it would make sense to entrust it to an outsider who would be (assumed to be) neutral in any Targaryen civil war.
@nkundisebina7893
@nkundisebina7893 2 жыл бұрын
doubt it! i think Cregan told Aegon iii because jace told him something during the pact of ice and fire! and so during the hour of the wolf he must've mentioned something!
@miguelmarques4583
@miguelmarques4583 2 жыл бұрын
What if the prophesy reached Aegon the Unworthy and he didn't tell anyone because he didn't believe and was a jerk.
@johkupohkuxd1697
@johkupohkuxd1697 2 жыл бұрын
It was 100% Bloodraven who rediscovered the prophecy, or atleast the majority of it. He was Aerys's Hand, is into lost/ancient knowledge and most importantly was possibly the most powerful greenseer of his era. If anyone could do it, it would him. I agree with Preston Jacobs that someone was sending Maekar's children telepatchic dreams to direct their actions. I think only Bloodraven would do such a thing.
@JennaMac24
@JennaMac24 2 жыл бұрын
I actually like the prophecy being on the blade. People aren't reliable and parchment burns or ages, but Valyrian steel is forever. Unless you lose it. (*cough cough* Dark Sister *cough cough* Blackfyre)
@hugoguzman6808
@hugoguzman6808 2 жыл бұрын
I like that the prophecy is on the blade too
@cailindennis2121
@cailindennis2121 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe that’s why some of the Targaryen kings tried so hard to make or hatch new dragons, because they new there had to be dragons again before the Second long night.
@amyra8159
@amyra8159 2 жыл бұрын
That's why labelling all Targaryens as mad is really unfair. These people were really troubled by all those dragon dreams which look so real that it felt extremely ominous. And the fact that a dream saved their lives also motivated them to continue researching about the dream and hatching dragon eggs that they lost their own present life for some distant future incident.
@laza0202
@laza0202 2 жыл бұрын
@@amyra8159 not only about dragon dreams, but for any reason showing any wrong side of any member of this house they call them mad while other characters of other houses might have worse traits, still noone calls them mad
@durrangodsgrief6503
@durrangodsgrief6503 2 жыл бұрын
Not all targs were made very few actually were even less if we go by actual insanity and a stress induced condition
@rhaenyraitargaryen6360
@rhaenyraitargaryen6360 2 жыл бұрын
It just clicked on me that probably one of the reasons why Ned didn't agree to killing Daenerys was because the pact of the Song of Ice and Fire was most probably still alive and well in the Stark family and that's why he also raised Jon the way he did because he knew about the prophecy.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I’ve wondered if Ned knew. I have a theory about that.
@staytuned2L337
@staytuned2L337 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer 🤤 that'll be juicy
@Gjudxdkjyzddhjnr7091
@Gjudxdkjyzddhjnr7091 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer Maybe he wouldn't have known as Rickard and his heir were both killed together. Would the spare heir be privy to the prophecy?
@sean5558
@sean5558 2 жыл бұрын
If Aegon reached out to King Torrin about his dream and Torrin remember the story of the Long Night that may be why he knelt instead of resist and even have his brother attempt to kill the dragons with the weirwood arrows
@Matt-xc6sp
@Matt-xc6sp 2 жыл бұрын
When did House Stark adopt Winter is Coming? If it was before Torren was probably just like, “yeah that’s what we’ve been saying”
@sean5558
@sean5558 2 жыл бұрын
@@Matt-xc6sp thsts what I think , probably right after the long night thousand of years ago and was in agreement with Aegon that they already know of the threat when he told his dream when he probably heard about their experiences firsthand with the long night and of course the purpose of the nights watch was not just to fend off wildlings
@amyra8159
@amyra8159 2 жыл бұрын
@@sean5558 I'm amazed by the fact that they used to have same English *cough* 👀 westerosi language for over eight to ten thousands of years 🤣 *winter in coming* 🤣🤣
@ladygrey7425
@ladygrey7425 2 жыл бұрын
I think the prophecy being lost during Robert's Rebellion. Think about it - on the Targaryen side, Rhaegar and Aerys die before they can tell anyone, and on the Stark side, Rickard and Brandon bite it before telling Ned. Hence why everyone at the beginning of ASOIAF thinks that the Night King is long dead or even a nonexistent story to terrify kids with.
@chafrey8532
@chafrey8532 2 жыл бұрын
The gold of casterly rock bringing down the Valyrians always felt like a reference to jaime killing Aerys wearing his Lannister gold armor and toppling the dynasty. Obviously it could work on multiple levels and still involve the faceless men and the end of the Valyrian empire. Also a part of me wants to believe that it isn’t aegon that is the dragon dreamer of the 3 but actually Rhaenys. For one: naming the prophecy a song of ice and fire sounds more like something Rhaenys would come up with over aegon. Also maybe she did survive her “death” in dorne. And was able to talk to nymor about the prophecy? Maybe that has something to do with the letter he sent to aegon? If aegon was spending 9 out of every 10 nights with Rhaenys maybe he just wanted to be the first to hear about her dreams. I don’t really have any evidence for any of this it just feels very George to me to not have aegon be the complete super hero. It would also add some more tragedy to her death if aegon was using her dreams to help himself prepare for the coming war and a stupid war with dorne ends up killing her.
@made-line7627
@made-line7627 2 жыл бұрын
I love this. And Rhaenys does have a love for music and singers. I want this to be true ✴️❄️🖤
@04nbod
@04nbod 2 жыл бұрын
I like the theory that the Lannisters bought Brightroar from the Targaryens who then used it to pay the Faceless men to destroy Valyria once they'd left.
@arthurcosta9482
@arthurcosta9482 2 жыл бұрын
@@04nbodWHAT FUCK??! How Lannisters are connected EMpire Dawn?!
@joshobrien3467
@joshobrien3467 2 жыл бұрын
Choosing to take this as canon until proven otherwise
@gusecheverri7439
@gusecheverri7439 2 жыл бұрын
So if each Targaryen king thinks their prince is the one that was promised would that be equivalent to there must always be a Stark in Winterfell? In other words, each generation has a duty to be vigilant for one reason or another.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Good comparison!
@nevaehaho61
@nevaehaho61 Жыл бұрын
I definitely feel like there will be sort of a “Second Dance” in the main story. George is setting up conflict between Dany and Faegon and there’s been talk of Faegon possibly acquiring (stealing) one of Dany’s dragons. Not only would this parallel Rhaenyra vs Aegon II as a woman who feels she’s the rightful heir vs a man who has been brought up to be the heir by the schemers around him, Dany is bonded with Drogon (a BLACK dragon) and Faegon will probably end up with Rhaegal (a GREEN dragon for the greens) or Viserion (a cream and GOLD dragon which would match up with Aegon II’s sigil). I just feel like it lines up too perfectly.
@autje1970
@autje1970 2 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping HotD will show us how the Targaryen infighting made the prophecy fade from memory for a while, because thematically that would parallel ASOIAF (the books): instead of coming together for the greater good, people fight over power and a chair.
@Baileys1990
@Baileys1990 2 жыл бұрын
"Aegon called his dream "The Song of Ice and Fire". This secret it's been passed from king to heir since Aegon's time. Now you must promise to carry it and protect it. Promise me this, Rhaenyra. Promise me." - Viserys I Targaryen, HotD 1/1 The similiar "Promise me" wording like everytime. Rhaegar told Lyanna about the prophecy, we saw in the dream of Daenerys. Now because of the death of Rhaegar she was forced to pass this secret to Ned. And Ned wasn't able anymore to pass it to Jon. This is the "broken promise" of Ned. The Lost "Song of Ice and Fire" prophecy. The north remembers... Not anymore. " The thought of Jon filled Ned with a sense of shame, and a sorrow too deep for words. If only he could see the boy again, sit and talk with him..." - Eddard XV, AGoT
@elizawayne
@elizawayne 5 ай бұрын
He’s talking to Elia in the dream
@watcherofthewest8597
@watcherofthewest8597 2 жыл бұрын
David, I was watching an old GRRM interview were they read your question! It was a great question about myth in westerns. Keep up great work!
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
I remember that!
@nyahmariekabiling4197
@nyahmariekabiling4197 2 жыл бұрын
Wake up there's a new david lightbringer video 🤩
@Raykowojo
@Raykowojo 2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one
@swaggerdagger5168
@swaggerdagger5168 2 жыл бұрын
feels like christmas!
@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215
@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215 2 жыл бұрын
It's like Christmas came a month early
@owleyes07
@owleyes07 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the targaryen look. Excellent analysis, omg thank you. Waiting for the next part 🦉♥️
@Pflaumensuess
@Pflaumensuess 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Fantastic look!
@naomi.cannibal
@naomi.cannibal 2 жыл бұрын
yessss I’ve been binging since there’s no more weekly lives. Always love what you have to say!!
@Okcucumber
@Okcucumber 2 жыл бұрын
Aegon: he's going the distance. Rheagar: He's going for speed She's all alone (Dany) All alone in her time of need
@curtthechameleon
@curtthechameleon 6 ай бұрын
Riding, and riding, and riding on his dragon.
@stealth11
@stealth11 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan Condal mentioned that they're going to use the "House of the Dragon" title for future series too. I'm really interested in seeing the period of Robert's Rebellion now and Rhaegar in particular.
@eric8841
@eric8841 2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one! Thank you. Peace and wholeness fam
@Aman-wg2wp
@Aman-wg2wp 2 жыл бұрын
It makes a lot of sense that Visenya and Rhaenys definitely knew, hence why Visenya wanted so much a son and for Maegor to rule and why she may have resorted to magic to do so. Aenys was so weak she not only knew that kingdom was in danger but all of the world, she may have been blindsided by that and ignore a lot of Maegors cruelty she probably knew ,if she really used magic to conceive him, that, that was the price she paid to have him
@amyra8159
@amyra8159 2 жыл бұрын
Atleast he was good and obedient son to her. I will blame Visenya for hardening Maegor to such extend that he became extremely cruel. Also I don't think he was born with black magic, instead after he was "comatose" for sone time after trail against faith militants that he lost his mind in true sense. Maybe he was resurrected by fire witch and lost a part of his soul, hence became so cruel... otherwise whatever he had done in his life was on Visenya's command. Being Targaryen is tough lol
@squisherking
@squisherking 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to hearing about Torrhen Starks potential role because for some reason all these southern houses like the targs, daynes, and hightowers seem to know about the long winter coming from the north but we dont hear much about more recent stark characters being aware of the others, etc.
@lolsous
@lolsous 2 жыл бұрын
So hyped for a new video!!!
@promisemabu7785
@promisemabu7785 2 жыл бұрын
Hey David I've been thinking about the hatching of Dany's dragons in light of House of the Dragon. I've actually been wondering why a sacrifice was needed to bring them back when before the dance they didn't need it. Seeing the increasingly poor treatment of Targaryen women since adapting the Andal customs, I think the betrayal of Rhaenyra was the last straw. We don't actually know what Gods they worshiped before the conquest but it should have been some of the Valyrian gods, possibly one related to the hatching of dragons. I think those gods would be feminine and that is why they turned their backs on the Targaryens for continuously shunning their matriarchs. After Rhaenyra a specific human sacrifice was needed to appease them so they can be granted the favor of dragons once again. I'm just guessing here but I find it interesting how the end of the dragons was because of the usurpation of a woman and their rebirth is because of a woman, both of whom had dragon babies moments before it all started.
@thatoneblackdude3333
@thatoneblackdude3333 2 жыл бұрын
I aggre the targaryens appeasing to andul culture killed there dragons and crippled there family removing what made them who they are as a people a Dragon is a Dragon regardless of its gender.
@CrimsonTemplar2
@CrimsonTemplar2 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I love you getting back to this type of content.
@esco6004
@esco6004 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back!
@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615
@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, the Light has been brought back to Westeros. Thanks for all of your hard work. Aegons conquest was the very thing that triggered the terror in the north
@connerb9733
@connerb9733 2 жыл бұрын
Great video David! I was glad Ryan Condal kept the prophecy so central to the story. Cheers!
@Vansh_The_Rover
@Vansh_The_Rover 2 жыл бұрын
Seven hells!! David your new look is amazing!!
@zachthompson9179
@zachthompson9179 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video. Super excited to hear more about what Torrhen and Aegon may have talked about
@ethans3584
@ethans3584 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think is the underlying reason for why the Targaryens have prophetic dreams? It feels like answering that question is at the root of understanding Aegon's prophecy. Given that the best analog seems to be the first-men-descendants with green sight, it would seem fitting as a way of tying the Starks/first men and the Targaryens/valyrians into a shared history - they're both offspring of one super magical person/thing, and that's why they have these visions and others don't. I'm curious to know what people think about why Targaryens have these visions other than them just being more magical than other folks.
@iamjimb
@iamjimb 2 жыл бұрын
He's going the distance! He's going for speeeed! I swear every time I watch one of your videos you get cooler, also pretty cool how your microphone arm also functions as a shelf!
@cheyennem9218
@cheyennem9218 2 жыл бұрын
I'm excited for the next video since there's been a lot of discussion in my friend circles about who might've handled the prophecy after Aenys and Prince Aegon's deaths. If Queen Rhaena had to preserve it and pass it on to Jaehaerys and Alysanne after Maegor was dealt with, etc. Can't wait for your analysis.
@WhoIsCalli
@WhoIsCalli Жыл бұрын
Great stuff, looking forward to seeing the rest of the series
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer Жыл бұрын
I learned a lot in the process of researching this one!!
@craig2054
@craig2054 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for an upload or a live
@AlinuraTaskali-f2e
@AlinuraTaskali-f2e Жыл бұрын
I think Danny is all three head of the dragons. She called child of three and the way she placed eggs. black egg Drogo's heart green is near head and the third dragon in private area. Only Danny can understand her dragons better than anyone else. She and her dragons are special and different from her ancestors maybe she will be able to ride all three of them
@rrzzl
@rrzzl 2 жыл бұрын
Long time listener! I’m back after a looong time but loved this video!
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
hey Ricky!! Good to see ya man
@alexjames7144
@alexjames7144 2 жыл бұрын
Considering all the 'three headed dragon' prophecies and imagery it wouldn't surprise me if in the end Dany, Jon and ( imo not so fake) Aegon are all needed working together to fulfill the prophesy of the Prince that was promised.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
His name is fAegon! He’s carryin black steel!
@JennaMac24
@JennaMac24 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer I'm not sold on Faegon. Granted it's been a minute since I've read all the books and I don't know them like you do, but Connington dishonored himself and gave up his whole life for this kid. I would think he would have to have some solid proof, not just Varys's word, that this is really Rhaegar's son. I don't see why he'd do this for a Blackfyre bastard, but I definitely think he'd do it for Rhaegar's son, legitimate or not. Why am I wrong?
@wolfsbanealphas617
@wolfsbanealphas617 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer the three headed dragon must work together unfortunately it was not ment to be for they failed to deal with the here and now and allowed infighting to occur they allowed all manner of factions to separate them all for a chair they was created to unite instead it has become a tool for the great other to create disunity. And most all their pride and hubris in believing only the heir could do it sealed their fate and the world
@petyaivanova9629
@petyaivanova9629 2 жыл бұрын
I think Rhaegar might've been the third head... he was partially right that the prophecy is about him, which totally coincides with Targaryens deciphering the prophecy and half guessing the truth...
@thatoneblackdude3333
@thatoneblackdude3333 2 жыл бұрын
@@JennaMac24 there no proof of him being the real aegon his age doesn't match how old he's supposed to be , the golden company fallow him and they never fallow targaryens , his origind are incredibly suspicious and he will likely gain blackfire to legitimize him as a future king and that sword is no longer accoceated with targ kings but to house blackfire also ilyrio literally tells tyrion that the blackfires are only extinct from the male line not the female one there's no reason for that to be mentioned if aegon is actually raegars son and the Jon twist wouldn't hold any weight if he wasn't the true son of rhagar , ultimately it doesn't matter blackfires are still targaryens so he can be part of the 3 heads without being the real aegon.
@tracymetherell8744
@tracymetherell8744 2 жыл бұрын
Another fabulous video! No one explains things like you do David!
@cbob213
@cbob213 2 жыл бұрын
Here we go!!
@amberantk1
@amberantk1 2 жыл бұрын
It’s good to hear your voice improved!
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s better now after some rest too
@CJusticeHappen21
@CJusticeHappen21 Жыл бұрын
Maybe that's what love is. Creating the next generation that if given the chance will come to love the things we couldn't.
@silasclayton7777
@silasclayton7777 2 жыл бұрын
Hah, love the Cake reference! Great band. He's going the distance!
@KingEdwardMMVIII
@KingEdwardMMVIII 2 жыл бұрын
LML IS BACK!! Praise Garth! David if you see this I would love a video on Aerea's trip on Balerion!
@TylerSGoGators
@TylerSGoGators 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always top tier! Thank you for the entertainment!
@Fathoms09
@Fathoms09 2 жыл бұрын
Great way to start my Friday! Thanks LmL for another great vid!
@ManagementCourses
@ManagementCourses 2 жыл бұрын
Have you done a video on candidates for the third head of the dragon in the main ASOIAF series? I can't find one. I'd love to hear you analyze the candidates.
@stars-and-clouds
@stars-and-clouds 2 жыл бұрын
God I want a show on the conquest so badly, Aegon has to be one my favourite Targaryens but part of me also thinks that's because he's shrouded in so much mystery, so you can't really hate him. And I think it's best that it stays that way and the conquest remains just this distant memory we all have our little mental versions of.
@joymike6408
@joymike6408 2 жыл бұрын
Subscribing now. Great content. Thank You for your efforts.👍💯
@michaelfaust9687
@michaelfaust9687 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure I completely like Aegons prophecy, it’s definitely cool and adds more to the magical side of things. I’ve always thought of the conquest as just three flying Ds wanting to be the rulers and making it everyone else’s problem. The prophecy makes the war that Aegon started at least somewhat justified since it helped save the world. It takes away from the how when the lords play the game of thrones it’s the common people that lose in my opinion but maybe I’m over reacting.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Think about it as heightening the need for stability and peace, once the Targs have the throne. Any ruler owes his or her kingdom peace and stability, and now that pressure is even greater for all the Targ kings because they know there is so much riding on it
@michaelfaust9687
@michaelfaust9687 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a fair point. It would add meaning to the lives lost in securing the safety of everyone in the future. I was looking at it in the same way that Davos did regarding sacrificing one person to help Stannis complete Melisandre’s visions.
@waltonsmith7210
@waltonsmith7210 2 жыл бұрын
No, it just adds another wrinkle of complication.Just because theres a prophecy doesnt mean that everything the Targaryans do about it is completely justified. It puts their actions in a different lighy, but it doesnt make the world of men less brutal, or the feudal system less opressive.
@nathanwimberley4587
@nathanwimberley4587 2 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@RaulRamirez-se9qo
@RaulRamirez-se9qo 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine if house of the dragon was made first and then game of thrones we would have seen the marriage to lyanna (if it indeed happened like that) with rhaegar having the dagger that viserys had Why one question with the north being a big piece of the puzzle why were marriage alliances not made more common?
@Varatil
@Varatil 2 жыл бұрын
New to Lightbringer content, but I've always heard good things from the community. Honestly super here for the editing style. Cutting to 3 seconds of Cake? Yes please!
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Cut that Cake!
@OmgIsThatBruno
@OmgIsThatBruno 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video David! Does the Maegor video will come on the next weeks?
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Soon but I gotta do the Torrhen one first
@briennesfatsister4788
@briennesfatsister4788 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, love the look. It's all falling into place.
@musicman7943
@musicman7943 2 жыл бұрын
i have the notification bell set to all and somehow im still not alerted when you drop vids. ive been dying for asoiaf lore and not necessarily HOTD lore
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Man that’s so frustrating to hear
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
I mean thanks for telling me! It’s just dumb. Thanks YT
@that_vivian
@that_vivian 2 жыл бұрын
The only creator whose intro music I looove
@cardboard2night
@cardboard2night 2 жыл бұрын
"She's serving Targarien realness!"
@markpjf85
@markpjf85 2 жыл бұрын
Like it 👏👏👏 very good information
@-AwaleAbdi-
@-AwaleAbdi- 2 жыл бұрын
Like a glass of raw buffalo milk. Great analysis as always, chief!
@TimRobertsen
@TimRobertsen 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Cake!! David is a man of culture, bass culture :)
@trumanberlin3522
@trumanberlin3522 2 жыл бұрын
Another banger!
@almab6875
@almab6875 2 жыл бұрын
Happy day! New LML video!!!! 🥳
@patreilly3184
@patreilly3184 2 жыл бұрын
HE'S GOING THE DISTANCE, HE'S GOING FOR SPEEEEED
@handyshroom7786
@handyshroom7786 2 жыл бұрын
Honey wake up, LML just dropped a new video
@enmac500
@enmac500 2 жыл бұрын
Been thinking of Thundarr the Barbarian, the main enemy is Gemini or Janus - a two faced sorcerer who communicates to his minions from afar via a well of water. George really liked that show, huh
@WatashiMachineFullCycle
@WatashiMachineFullCycle 2 жыл бұрын
Never clicked a video so fast let's GOOOOOOO
@Raykowojo
@Raykowojo 2 жыл бұрын
Goats back baby
@johnnyb7271
@johnnyb7271 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid LmL 👍✌️
@susannaharnhart4910
@susannaharnhart4910 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if George planted the idea with D and D, and if that’s the reason Gilly and Sam are rifling through Targaryen-related material at the Citadel and the Valyrian steel dagger is illustrated.
@FieryReborn
@FieryReborn 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think the prophecy was that big of a deal to Rhaenyra during the Dance if she knew about it or do you think it's a show thing to make her more sympathetic
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
A bit of both. There should be a good line of transmission from Aegon to Viserys and therefore Rhaenyra, so she should actually know in book canon too. It does make her more sympathetic, which I like because it’s done sensibly. The maesters wouldn’t know about any prophecy based motivations of the Targs.
@J.Wiki23
@J.Wiki23 2 жыл бұрын
My Theory is that it wasn't Aegons Dream but Rhaenys. She spent the most time "bedwise" with Aegon & I like the idea of All 3 Targs having a piece of their Lineage, Aegon with Blackfyre, Visenya with Dark Sister & Rhaenys with the Catspaw Dagger, seems Meta for Aegon to have both Blackfyre & The Dagger, would add more meaning to the Dagger after her death. I like the idea of Aegon & Rhaenys being a direct parallel to Gaemon the Glorious & Daenys the Dreamer, Aegon being the Conqueror but Rhaenys being the True Dreamer, also the mysticism of Targaryan woman, Visenya being almost witch-like, Daenys the Dreamer & Even Heleana Targ both being Prothetic Dreamers. When Rhaenys Died it would give Aegon reason to enshrine "Her Dream/Prophecy" on to "Her Dagger." I prefer the idea of the Woman being the True Dreamers within the family & the Men being the ones to act on thier Dreams. The Male Targs like Daeron the Drunk, Viserys The Peaceful & potentially Bloodraven are cursed by their Dreams whereas the woman's Visions almost offer a glimpse into better. The Men Dream of Destruction & Act on it thus cursing their actions regardless of what side of a Prophecy they believe in, whereas the Woman Targs Dream of potential hope to save their Family or The Fall of Man. Aegon gets too much credit and history favors the Conqueror, Rhaenys being the Dreamer would add depth to the Trio & even Aegon himself.
@daniela5461
@daniela5461 2 жыл бұрын
As always I’m here to point out the music references. 🍰 🤘❤️
@uhhbakedpotato
@uhhbakedpotato 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, you got any more of that Mythical Astronomy?
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
“Rhaegar thought the bleeding star had to be a comet” Rhaegar did the MA analysis this week haha
@wolfsbanealphas617
@wolfsbanealphas617 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer do you think that the bloodstones emperor was actually the good guy and his sister was like Cersei but he is hated due to being the one in power like Elric of melnibone died alone and forgotten hated by his kin for the destruction of his empire
@robstewartstewart98
@robstewartstewart98 2 жыл бұрын
5:27 Good morrow! How is everyone doing? I'm only at the 5:27 mark, so David might bring this up later.....but there is something that's been scratching at my brain. I know GOT made up the Arya twist wholesale. BUT to-be-somewhat-fair, the prophecy doesn't, (as far as we know), say the prince who was promised will literally do any killing/collective disruption. Only that they will lead the army that fights the Others. Actually it's kinda funny.......it just implies A Targaryen, so whether it's Jon or Dany doesn't matter. To say nothing about a hilarious possible interpretation of how things work in the HotD/GOT verse where possibly Dany is the figure of Aegon's prophecy, but Jon is still Azor Ahai.
@pankratos5017
@pankratos5017 2 жыл бұрын
How come this channel doesn't have 1 million subscribers already?
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Good fackin question, what’s going on here anyway
@GPBA89
@GPBA89 2 жыл бұрын
I am currently writing an ongoing fantasy book series where a divided empire is attacked by an invading horde of monsters. For the main character, I drew inspiration from several fantasy heroes like Jon Snow and Daenerys Targaryen. Like Jon Snow, my main protagonist is the rightful heir to the throne, unites the land when it is most divided against a common enemy, and wields a sword made of special metal. Like Daenerys Targaryen, he genuinely cares about his people, rides a dragon, and becomes a leader of armies.
@yubima
@yubima 2 жыл бұрын
I mised your videos. Now to cry because i dont have more series to wach😭
@TonyStark-oo3tp
@TonyStark-oo3tp Жыл бұрын
I won't lie, for me Aegon's prophecy seemed to come out of left field in House of the Dragon, like it didn't really belong in ASOIAF...but this video really shows that Aegon's prophecy makes total sense in the context of the books and the world created by GRRM. Thanks for that!
@renlyspeach7622
@renlyspeach7622 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think the message from Dorne about Rhaenys and Meraxes was about the prophecy?
@amyra8159
@amyra8159 2 жыл бұрын
I think they had kept her captive
@exilhannabal
@exilhannabal 7 ай бұрын
Is that house of flying ds a raekwon reference House of Flying Daggers? Bc ya know a dagger is a really small sword and a sword is a comet and a comet is a dragon?
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 7 ай бұрын
you got it
@schwantsherr
@schwantsherr 2 жыл бұрын
yoo michael jackson is moderating this episode nice
@sj-bg4up
@sj-bg4up 2 жыл бұрын
Bro I just came to comment that you have to check out ancient apocalypse if you haven’t already. Oh my god the style in presentation is so similar to yours and the ways they come to conclusions are exactly the same as yours, just applies to real world history. An amazing watch
@zachandtheworld8841
@zachandtheworld8841 2 жыл бұрын
For thousands of years I lay dormant. Who has disturbed my..... OH! A new video from David Lightbringer.
@BaryonyxXR9
@BaryonyxXR9 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, I gotta wait to finish work and I have to wait after a date to listen. Why!!!?
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
The date better be good! (fingers crossed for ya)
@SmoteMyRuin
@SmoteMyRuin 2 жыл бұрын
@moiraferreira
@moiraferreira 2 жыл бұрын
Cool stuff
@Denjiman-qz9mi
@Denjiman-qz9mi Жыл бұрын
It is interesting how Rhaegar and Aegon are both described as being aware of this prophecy, since they are described in similar fashions. Both are described as not being well known by even those who knew them best
@Krombopulusryan518
@Krombopulusryan518 2 жыл бұрын
Must have been what was discussed when Egg sent Blood Raven to the wall
@xeronix9774
@xeronix9774 4 ай бұрын
the wig is slay, Lord Lightbringer
@cristianbejarano1516
@cristianbejarano1516 2 жыл бұрын
i feel like it does get passed down to raegar eventually, rhaeynra could tell both aegons during last minutes
@rosalobo4968
@rosalobo4968 Жыл бұрын
I also feel that the black oily stone in the Hightower’s foundation and the throne of the Iron Islands must be Valyrian in origin. Evidence of past colonies to potentially prevent the the Doom of Valyria and the Doom of Men. BUT the children were able to fight them off and thats why it never lasted. Also, it could be evidence of Valyrian ancestors from the Great Empire of the Dawn doing what they could with the remainder of their strength after the Long Night.
@samuelpain4746
@samuelpain4746 2 жыл бұрын
Idk where I heard it (maybe here), but there is a theory about how it was Rhaenys' dagger and that she was the dreamer of the conqueror siblings . And when she died he retrieved it and pass it down to their son and heir with the prophecy , leading to the confusion that he was the dreamer and that he was the original owner of the dagger. I really liked the symbolism of 3 siblings, 3 dragons, 3 valyrian blades .
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
There’s no evidence to support that that I can think of
@ashmeadowphoenix
@ashmeadowphoenix 2 жыл бұрын
I know everybody thinks that that is Rhaegar in Dany's visions, but.....what if it's not Rhaegar? What if it's Aerion and he's talking to Valeana? I only mention this because the woman is not described but we know that Elia had a terrible second birth and was considered frail and sickly and having Aegon almost killed her, and I'm not so sure she would have been able to nurse her newborn so quickly (and I think Dany would have mentioned a frail looking person). Maybe that part is a) the decision to have Rhaenys (which makes more compassionate sense than Rhaegar telling his half-dead wife that he needs another kid), and b) the decision to prepare Aegon to take over Westeros, which is why Aerion notes that the name is fit for a king, because he would be the first king. And then Aegon dreamt a little bit more information regarding the northern threat (it also explains a little more why Aegon married both sisters when he didn't "need" to. His father told him there needed to be three heads). I think knowing this more completely would also explain why Rhaegar moved away from deciding that he was the Prince, because he realized he was more Aerion than Aegon. I also just would like the fact that Rhaenys got some of her love of music from her father.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Does Aerion play the harp then? I mean I hear but that’s definitely Rhaegar. George hadn’t even invented the Blackfyres at that point, let alone Aenar and Valaena
@ashmeadowphoenix
@ashmeadowphoenix 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer Are you suggesting that he needed to conceive of either of Aegon/Viseyna/Rhaenys parents as like...actual characters in order to write this? He would only need a long-standing prophecy and Dany's connection to Aegon imo. But yeah, it's Rhaegar and GRRM simply hadn't thought enough about how he was writing Elia for this to make sense retrospectively. That's the simplest view. I just think an alternate view makes equal watsonian sense
@Baelor-Breakspear
@Baelor-Breakspear 11 ай бұрын
Hey David, quick question. Where do you get your wigs?? I need one for reasons. Please respond I need to know how made the fabulous wig. It’s so real you look like a real Targaryen.
@viennperidot1119
@viennperidot1119 2 жыл бұрын
That dagger easter egg was such a brilliant middle finger to D+D. LOOK WHAT YOU LOST, DOUCHECANOES!
@Ma55ey
@Ma55ey Жыл бұрын
i always thought that Danny's vision was actually of Jon's birth, and Rhaegar was talking to Lyanna... I think I wrote that in Gray area's comments once and she nearly reached through the screen and punched me lol 🤣
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer Жыл бұрын
it’s definitely Elia with their two kids lol
@aajiv1748
@aajiv1748 2 жыл бұрын
How did the followers of R'hllor get mixed into this? Melisandre is sent by the Red Temple in Volantis and Kinvara later (who we see in season 6 , but never again).Thoros mixed in this too, to keep and eye on things and urge preparation for the coming war? Seems the followers of the Red God know what is going to happen. Weill Essos send help to Westeros?
@luminousignesia372
@luminousignesia372 2 жыл бұрын
Quality content about a quality franchise yes please
@Bannerman1903
@Bannerman1903 2 жыл бұрын
Speculation: a fire (chaos/life) deity has influenced things going back 1000 years, making the old valerians dragonkin, then blowing up the place to force the Tagaryens to move to westeros, all in a cosmic chess game to combat its opposite ice (entropy/death) deity in an eternal conflict or Song of Ice and Fire
@DenyEverythingXD
@DenyEverythingXD 2 жыл бұрын
The prophecy about the doom of man coming from Westeros does explain why the Valyrian's never invaded Westeros. Probably seemed too dangerous. Also probably why they made Dragonstone their most western outpost. To keep an eye on a potential threat from the west.
@Henbot
@Henbot 2 жыл бұрын
It funny how everyone missed then in the World book the bit about Valyrian Priests- seeing though made me remember it. It always seemed obvious to me that the Others and Dragons had a link because the dragons just seemed so utterly OP for random lords. Which was honestly what I thought they do in the show having her greatest army crippled by the war with the others not a dumbass pirate
@ashmeadowphoenix
@ashmeadowphoenix 2 жыл бұрын
I think the opposite makes sense. The dragons are older then the white walkers, and yes OP, and the white walkers were created to guard against the dragons.
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