LUCK :: Is It Worth It? Pt. 2 (Elder Scrolls 4- Oblivion)

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LUCK :: Is It Worth It? Pt. 1
• LUCK :: Is It Worth It...
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Is Luck the best attribute...or the worst?
Does Luck affect everything in the game....or nothing at all?
Really it comes down to how efficient and proportionately powerful you what your character to be. I mean you can always lower the difficulty slider and do whatever you want!
#ElderScrollsOblivion #Oblivion

[@jerryjorel]

You can tag luck as an attribute at the start of the game for a bonus of 5 and then also pick the thief as your birth sign for and additional 10. Then you would only need to reach level 36 for 100 luck. If you have the Knights of the 9 DLC you could also get another 5 to any attribute you choose from the blessings conveyed by the tombs in the chapel. Therefore you only actually need to reach level 31 for maximum luck.

[@g.k.2400]

I was surprised to see that you only had 24 subs with how high the quality is.

[@whiterunguard7051]

I'm surprised your channel is so small, everything here is great quality!

[@NerdyGamerGal]

Thank you so much!! I'm very new to this but I love it!

[@mennykickens486]

Another thing to note is that if you have 100 in armorer your smithing hammers never break, and fortifying the skill to 100 counts. Not to mention a fortify armorer spell is really cheap if it only needs to last for the second it will take to open up the item menu. So luck doesn’t help much there either.

[@johnnyboy9682]

Great vid straight too the point I like that most KZbinrs beat around the bush for ten minutes

[@nerdytom6881]

Dont underestimate luck, there was a Bosmer in Mournhold who was near indestructible because of it.

[@Thomlin12]

That's with Morrowind mechanics.

[@renzoraschioni3886]

But eventually that bosmer met a guy who drank fifteen bottles of sujamma

[@nerdytom6881]

@@renzoraschioni3886 Poor guy, couldn't afford skooma.

[@carlpvnsem2875]

i hope tes 6 reintroduces attributes, including luck, back into the game. just instead of oblivion and morrowinds system where skills interact with attributes, just have an option when you level up to select which attributes to boost by a flat amount sorta like skyrim has it. then you could have those attributes play a role in which perks you can select, like for instance, any perk that affects critical strikes or sneak criticals could require a certain amount of luck.

[@NerdyGamerGal]

That would be amazing and I think Fallout did that pretty well... especially having Luck be much more effective. I would love to see them take it back to more old school rpg mechanics so we can create more elaborate builds!

[@DJIsher1]

Thanks for the explanation and research! Oddly enough that this was posted 3 days ago when I started playing oblivion again and was just wondering what luck actually does.

[@NerdyGamerGal]

Thanks, that's awesome! I just started a new character too so all of that research has been super helpful!

[@DJIsher1]

Ouu! What race and class?

[@NerdyGamerGal]

Breton/The Warrior/Custom Class I'm trying to optimize the build as much as possible so I can stop leveling by 25. I haven't tried this yet so we'll see how it goes! What build are you working on?

[@DJIsher1]

I'm new to optimizing. I'm a breton too, but trying to level sneak.

[@NerdyGamerGal]

Sneak is probably my favorite skill! Good LUCK 😄

[@FiveSeVIIen]

I know im suuuper late but you can make a perfect imperial by making your class specialization magic, then pick endurance and luck as your favored attributes, and make every major skill the ones governed by magic, then choose thief sign and do some +5+5+1 leveling for Endurance-Strength-Agility-Int, those are all at 40 at the start and they'll be 100 by level 25 and luck will be at 89, from there you just gotta level willpower every level and switch between speed and personality, luck will be 100 by level 36, for 37 you do a +5+5+5, and for 38 you do a +5+5+1, 1 for whichever attribute is higher than the other 2, and 39 you do +5+5+4, 4 for the one you just gave 1, and at 39 they're each at 95 and you can probably guess what to do next. you'll get that ''you cant improve perfection'' message everytime you sleep but yeah, perfection at level 40, which is a bit challenging but not as bad as some level 50+ characters. I never tried but maybe its possible to do alllllllllll of that and get every skill to 100 and just, not level up, once everything is set you just play through normally and level up once you get good enough equipment/spells for your next level, or will all those points just be wasted? it would take me like 30 minutes to find this out but, eh.

[@johngleue]

Cool couple of videos. Thanks for the vids

[@noticemeonii-chan5347]

As soon as I seen it's on my phone I had to come watch it you make great content yeah I forgot exactly what luck used to do also keep up the great work you're doing

[@NerdyGamerGal]

Thank you so much! I had originally wanted to start with Efficient Leveling guides but I had to choose between the +5/+5/+5 and +5/+5/+1 methods so that meant taking a closer look at Luck!

[@noticemeonii-chan5347]

@@NerdyGamerGal I always went with the 5+5+5+ for all my play through I noticed whenever I put any points on luck nothing changed I guess my game is messed up or something LOL but I never noticed anything different so I just went with the 5+5+5+ every single time I would love this game to be remastered but bethesda's not going to do it I might be looking for it to get a decent PC to run this with mods I freaking love for wood so much I know this comment is longer than expected sorry

[@NerdyGamerGal]

You can never write too much about Oblivion! ....or gaming! I couldn't bring myself to invest in Luck too much because there's no bonuses. From what I can tell, they just didn't give it much weight in the game. I love Fallout, because it does so much and really changes gameplay for me! I also just started playing Morrowind for the first time yesterday (with a casual non-efficient build since I'm new to it). I'm trying out Luck to see what it can do, it seems a lot more important to the game.

[@noticemeonii-chan5347]

@@NerdyGamerGal yeah it's been years since I played Morrowind I can't wait to get my copy in the mail Xbox has backwards compatibility for Xbox One and I'm about to play it on the 1X and I would love to get a good PC just enjoy great quality mods through PC of the older of the scrolls it's a shame Bethesda knows that we wanted to play Boulder games remastered add a remastered Skyrim out of all of them they should have went back more I know they're not going to do it they made up an excuse send those games are just too old or something itsfunneh that they say something like that because they've have been using the same damn engine ever since Morrowind they use it for Fallout as well I really hope the next Elder Scrolls uses a new engine

[@noticemeonii-chan5347]

@@NerdyGamerGal but seriously though I really hope you enjoy Morrowind can't wait to see if play through or something

[@ThalisBrow]

You really deserve way more subs this content is to good

[@DinkLover69]

Thanks. Everybody keeps saying to invest in luck but the benefits aren't that great. . . and I hear for dungeons you could just create a short powerful luck spell before entering for good loot.

[@NerdyGamerGal]

I should give this a shot and see if I notice a difference. I've actually never gotten into making spells but I've heard it's pretty awesome!

[@conversationflex3238]

Subscribed. Really concise videos. Appreciated!

[@mikeshaver-miller745]

If you do plan on using luck, starting with the thief stone and one of your major attributes being luck would be best. You’d only have to reach level 36 then, which is more than manageable, particularly for mages.

[@NerdyGamerGal]

I was considering building a Luck based character to compare the two so I may just try this out!

[@alexcrowder1673]

I know this is old, but with very high luck, traps seem to mostly always fail on your character. I have a speed and luck based character who kills by using conjuration and then simply running away. Its amazing how many enemies die in weird accidents and how easy it is to dodge with both high speed and luck. Its a female altmer which is the fastest because of how character scaling works and since female altmer have the same height and higher starting speed stat than males. Also betting in the arena is a great way to make a few hundred early game when you need a quick bit of gold and dont want to use glitches. I won all 12 of 12 bets in a row betting on blue to win every single time with just 67 luck. Was a quick 1200 gold and i just trained other stats like restoration and acrobatics while the fights finished. I noticed that about half the time the enemy doesnt even have a weapon, but the team i bet on will ALWAYS have a weapon.

[@DJNightchild]

Bit late, but a small correction: you are better of leving to Lv.30. This makes all leveled items you can find hit their max stats.

[@mrchrome3476]

2 years later. Yet I now have it confirmed. Luck doesn’t have enough influence to level it up. Thank you.

[@NerdyGamerGal]

I wish it wasn't true... I think Luck is pretty fun in Fallout but not here. Maybe it's better in Morrowind?

[@mrchrome3476]

@@NerdyGamerGal I like your style. I won’t lie I wish they made use of it to. But that’s only cause I’m a veteran of oblivion. Keep up the good work. You’ve got more viewers then me ;)

[@rapidsqualor5367]

Agreed ! Now lets talk about how useless Personality is.

[@NerdyGamerGal]

👏👏👏

[@scholarsoldado6058]

I like to sprawl when I hit the sweet spot on levelling. Twenty-five you say, sure. I'd still make improvements to that through enchanting. An invincible adventurer dungeon crawls with abandon. Luck can be a good skill, but it can't be part of your normal skill set. Truly, the best skills push health magica, and fatigue to the limits. Plus, you can achieve a higher carry weight, just on strength endurance and willpower.

[@OblivionHowtoPlay]

Something to note regarding the Mehrunes Razor. It is technically true that increasing Luck from 50 to 100 increases the instakill chance by "only 2.5%". But a more helpful way to put it is that it *doubles* the instakill chance (2.5% to 5.0%), which is what's actually important. Still, Luck sucks either way.

[@hundragant]

heh heh heh. Me who never leveled luck ever. I knew it! XD

[@art2dwooky469]

Does this attribute affects the critical rate chance as Pacific the casual gamer says??? I haven't read anything about this in none of the wiki pages, but I really want to know... as far as I know, at least this attribute didn't affect the Critical Damage (this one is only affected by the sneak skill, right?)

[@NerdyGamerGal]

Unfortunately, Luck doesn't do as much as it does in other game like Fallout, or even as much as it was originally intended to I think. As far as I understand, there are technically no "critical hits" in Oblivion (as in extra bonus points based on chance, percentage, or a 20 sided die roll whether influenced by Luck or not), but there are damage multipliers including the Sneak and Power Attack Multipliers. Just "Note that only the SneakMultiplier value or the PowerAttackMultiplier will be applied in the final damage calculation. A sneaking power attack attack will not combine the damage multipliers." -uesp wiki

[@KrackDaddy]

awesome. It's been a long time since i played Oblivion. and luck just isn't as desirable as it is on Fallout

[@alwaysneutral2100]

No where near as good.

[@zapbloodfist]

Making sure you always have plus five to attribute when leveling technically makes you more powerful when you reach level 35 which is around the spawning cap for NPC enemies and is the cat for leveled weapons. However if you level with plus ones to attributes every time you will achieve a grand total of more levels around 150. This makes you base stronger then every enemy you will encounter and gives you a huge well of health assuming you got endurance to 100 first. They're exploits to achieve this within the first few minutes of the game

[@jerryjorel]

Choosing a smaller bonus won't give you more levels. Your main skills will still reach 100 at the same time as you must raise your main skills by 10 to level up.

[@zapbloodfist]

@@jerryjorel no there's a glitch that allows you to level up your character level independent of the level of your skills. By cheesing the level up screen and the save load mechanics at the same time you can achieve hundreds of levels in a matter of minutes independent of your skills. This raises your character to approximately level 150 with your skills at base. Unlocking the higher level tears of items available in the game without having to progress through the story so that you can get the best rewards on every mission. It balances because even though your character's skills will be low and you'll have junk weapons you'll have a ungodly health pool

[@srbatimaw]

I'm started Oblivion this week and i have plans to make a warrior with only strenght and luck

[@NerdyGamerGal]

Oh man! What build did you go with?

[@cheerubebayonettaholopaine2638]

as someone with low luck in real live i can tell you, its true. my lockpicks do break less, but its not worth it. 😂

[@joegrimes9232]

Most people who play Elder Scrolls usually go for a magic build as Magic is fun, diverse and has a lot of nuance but also just straight up delivers damage very quickly. Look at Elder Scrolls Online and I fear for the Deforestation of Tamriel when I see all the Staves strapped to the backs of people dressed as glowing pumpkins riding Lions. In Oblivion, I don't go for magic outside of Heal, Light and speech magics and play as a knight. With the Battlethorn Castle Addon it's neat to play as a Colovian Noble, but I only really Tag two skills at Level up. Strength and Endurance. Damage and Health with the third sunk into Luck. Speed and acrobatics can usually be boosted by gear. But Luck, in my experience DOES affect loot drops. So I go in a cave at around level 10 and I have bad guys just gift me Enchanted Loot that boost speed, or grant feather etc. The Arena is not an efficient way to get coin, but it's sure as heck immersive and more profitable with higher luck. Luther Broads is making a killing from Baurus as he waits for me to finish gambling.

[@NerdyGamerGal]

I've heard that you can just use a luck spell or potions before new area for loot but that could be a hassle and possibly missing out on something good if you forget. I would love to compare high and low luck builds to see if I come across any consistent differences; I'm down with Luck being vague but if you're giving up 5 points in something else I'd hope to see a notable difference

[@cristhianferreyra1563]

Normally i up It using rings or magic ítems, i prefer focus on add damage and health when i level up. 🤔

[@xxdarkxpxx6904]

Thank you for keeping it short and simple 🙏

[@hawksights]

There's a quest right at the beginnng. After using a scroll it puts your luck -50. I healed from it. but it would have been interesting what happens to the game with all bad luck :D

[@NerdyGamerGal]

That's so interesting! I would love to compare similar runs with it nerfed/buffed and see if there's any notable difference. It's so fun to play with Luck in Fallout; I wish it was that heavy hitting in Elder Scrolls

[@goink3368]

Just had an idea of making a new character and immediately giving myself 100 luck with console to see the results

[@NerdyGamerGal]

It would be so interesting to see the results! I wanted to do the same- making two characters with one being 100 and the other being 50 or nerf it down to 0 and compare

[@SuperCgoblin]

The only worthwhile luck character I've managed to build was a Mehrunes razor with illusion.

[@NerdyGamerGal]

Interesting, I definitely want to try a Luck build at some point to compare to my current one

[@vovasyhin7219]

You forgot to mention that every 10 levels of luck increases all your other attributes by 4 points.

[@NerdyGamerGal]

Luck has no effect on its fellow attributes but does raise your skills little by little. This effect is lost as you max out your skills because the game caps their value at 100 anyway.

[@richardgregory9621]

I tried an experiment with luck. I raised it to 250 my spells are seriously cheap and my other skills are better too.

[@GothicXlightning]

1:30 That was a RECKTALITY my lady.. No MAX difficulty required but truly Luck is kind of TRASH in TES4 just go for STR, INT, END, WILL, SPEED & AGI if you are doing a pure Archer build

[@alwaysneutral2100]

I saw "my lady" and was instantly bursting into laughter. Whether ironic or serious, it sounds really tasteless and hysterical. Just say it out loud.. lol. Had to necro this just to make fun of you.

[@gregoryrockow9627]

do an oblivion lets play and role play it

[@MegaKILLManSkillz]

Does luck affect archery critical hits? Can criticals even be done without sneaking also can luck help knocking down people with archery? And does it affect ANY loot chance at all i find it frustrating theres no concrete answer.

[@NerdyGamerGal]

It's supposed to affect loot but it doesn't seem to change anything. Loot will get better the higher combat level you are anyway (capping at 30 for items with leveled effects). Targetting the leveled items and moneymaking later in game makes this unnecessary. Luck affects random criticals in Fallout but this isn't applied in Elder Scrolls. I think criticals or bonuses are solely dependant on sneak. Knockdowns are automatically earned when you become an Expert marksman at level 75. Unfortunately, Luck just isn't given a lot of weight in the game which makes it a bit unbalanced. The good thing is you can just skip it and pour all of those points into others attributes.

[@jakedavis5862]

True good luck starts at 56 otherwise you can leave it alone then still has a lot of unseen uses and purposes I always do a luck build it's Bethesda games greatest secrets in there game is that luck affect alot of things but they have never been up front about this fact.

[@NerdyGamerGal]

I absolutely love luck in Fallout, it's so fun to play around with different builds! From what I understand it's been unintentionally nerfed in Oblivion but I want to try a build to see for myself

[@rockluee37]

Great video ma'am

[@ugnius7489]

hope you do more soon!

[@NerdyGamerGal]

Thank you, I have a couple videos in the works! I'm learning the process and hoping to devote more and more time to these in the future!

[@ugnius7489]

+NerdyGamerGal awesome! can't wait :)

[@spaceace5621]

My luck is randomly permanently damaged... no negative impacts in my active effects, I tried cure disease too. Any advice?

[@spaceace5621]

Note: I haven't been leveling it up, I should just be at 50, yet I'm randomly at 49. Probably not a big deal, but my OCD says otherwise. My only negative should be -2 to personality from the ⚖ pitiless justice

[@NerdyGamerGal]

If you haven't yet, try praying at an altar, that usually works for me. I guess it could be equipment too, that's so weird. I feel ya on the ocd though.

[@spaceace5621]

@@NerdyGamerGal thanks for the reply I'll try it! ...but with this playthrough (bad guy turns hero) my infamy is extremely high so we'll see👀 Subbed :)

[@JZGreenline]

well... shit. time to re-roll

[@avalonjustin]

My heart is broken.

[@NerdyGamerGal]

We mourn what could have been.....

[@imhappyidance]

luck bros... its over...

[@sferroebbasta]

Just drink a couple of fortify luck potions and you should be fine.

[@NerdyGamerGal]

That or I think you can create a spell. That and its ineffectiveness make Luck feel obsolete- which is a bummer given how fun it can be in Fallout

[@sferroebbasta]

@@NerdyGamerGal honestly I don't know if spells effects are actually stackable like potions, btw I think that (sadly) oblivion stats and levelling system were poorly designed :/

[@NerdyGamerGal]

That is a very good point, I'll keep that in mind! Yeah, it definitely becomes imbalanced quickly if you don't do things properly. Skyrim's leveling system is more seamless but leaves every character feeling the same by the end. I guess that's not so bad given how much time you can put into one playthrough

[@viktorivanov5815]

All this time...the cake is a lie ;(

[@rapidsqualor5367]

The Gal speaks the truth. Use some of those grand soul gems you've been saving and build yourself a lucky suit. Wear it before entering a dungeon, picking herbs or any other thing you think extra luck might help and you will see ... the cake is a lie.

[@Fae2705]

Wasted potential! There could've been a Quest that rewards "Lucky" Characters or even a weapon or armour that takes advantage of Luck.

[@NerdyGamerGal]

Seriously, when I finally played Fallout I realized how much we were really missing out on! Luck builds can be so fun in those games

[@ericstaples7220]

Mehrunes' Razor is affected by luck, as mentioned in this video.

[@jonathanwells223]

*angry n’wah noises*

[@jetvellareno382]

Lock

[@NerdyGamerGal]

Hahahhaa good catch 😅

[@anon5725]

AI core

[@jetvellareno382]

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