Oblivion: Intro to Efficient Leveling

A quick guide on how and why to level efficiently in Oblivion. This method allows your character to gain 5 point in each attribute each level, and, more importantly, it allows you to reach 100+ endurance early on and massively increase your health pool late in the game.
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[@TheChameleonWilliams]

2019 and I'm still coming back for the knowledge when i crack open oblivion. Thanks again

[@Xyg0t]

Same, playing it on my ps3.

[@vote4jafoh]

Got back in a few days ago!

[@choppermuscle6358]

I'm playing it also

[@aricgoss]

On Xbox 360, trying mage now. I’m so confused. It’s like “Wanna be a mage? Well don’t choose any mage skills as major skills”

[@theoptimisticskeptic]

Yep, same thing here, except it's now 2020! And now with the Wabbajack auto mod list installer, it's so easy to set up a heavily modded Bethesda Game! I'm reinstalling all my TES & Fallout games and replaying them!

[@avoruhog9142]

Great video! I'm getting back into gaming and was thinking of picking up oblivion but I remember how hard figuring out leveling up was. Thanks to this video I am not intimidated by creating a wrong character set up

[@darrelljohnson1319]

thanks never take this down

[@CaptainKronk]

First quest I do when I get out the tutorial area is The collector 10k gold at the start is nice so I can get a house and the akaviri sunderblade

[@janedoe4401]

freaking amazing video. great info. i didnt know endurance was like that, i just assumed it was like magicka(level of attribute x(x)). its not impossible to play with low hp, my unarmed 0 armor monk did end last. however this will my breton 2h spell tank alot

[@yandos711]

So i want to make a pure warrior in Oblivion, but i'm really new to the game. Can you tell me what i should pick for a custom class and maybe some bonus newbie tips, Thanks.

[@DVSPress]

I would say pick heavy armor (endurance), blade (strength), restoration (int), conjuration (willpower - plus it's nice to have a skeleton or demon fighting next to you as a warrior) or destruction (willpower), Athletics (speed), sneak or marksman (agility), and illusion (personality). That's a good mix of skills to make you effective with a melee play style right away, and you won't "overlevel" the way you would if you triple dipped in one attribute. Playstyle would be sword and shield plus heavy armor, conjuring fighting friends and healing as needed, using bows at a distance (or sneaking with leather boots on - fun fact, you can wear full plate and have a bonus to sneak if you wear shoes with zero weight), using nightvision/light/charm as needed. You don't have to level efficiently for that character to develop into something really fun and badass. If you want to level efficiently (maxing endurance first and eventually all attributes), make sure you are training or leveling armorer and block every level. Agility, endurance, and willpower all contribute to your total stamina, so those attributes are important as well. Thanks for watching! I might do a video on newbie tips later on. I think I did one showing how you can get the dark brotherhood robes at level one and get a permanent zero weight Daedra bow with a slight cheat. The biggest thing when you are starting out is just to have a bit of fun. Do what interests you and don't worry about out-playing the game. It's supposed to be fun after all; I just have fun being meticulous.

[@yandos711]

Thank you very much for the informative tips. Also, thanks a bunch for this video. The leveling in Oblivion is very different from Skyrim's.

[@stick.6476]

thank you sir i just bought the game and i don t know nothing about it

[@theemr.gregward2355]

do you think you could do a quick video or explain to me how the feldew addiction exploit works?

[@DVSPress]

Seems like a good idea. Hard to have time to play, much less make videos on Oblivion right now though.

[@Vertheh]

Just install a +5 level up mod lol

[@4youdesire]

I made a level 52 character. This was wrong because the enemies are very strong at the maximum level of the game.

[@douglaswilliams4389]

Hi noob. Its Breton - the Atronach - Adventurer - made in a way to raise your lowest stats... you lv up gaining 5 to strength and 5 to endurance and 1 in luck till they make max. 100. Then the rest. Do all quests requiring you to sleep before it would cause you to lv. Keep track of all owed lvs. Waste nothing. Use less than the best solestones and enchant your lowly armor with strength. Luck reaches 100 at about the same time all the rest top out to 100. Restoration and alchemy mastery - heavy - sword - shield - too. At lv 3 I was casting a life buff heal and regenerate spell to keep allies alive ( to live for ) before doing those quests . All enemies remained low lv. Try it... you'll like it. :) ... I did :) I'm just saying

[@josephrincon1802]

Oh my god, the guy who helped me with classical guitar nail filing, now helping me with oblivion! I salute you!

[@theprogramshow8816]

Wow. Points for that.

[@s135461]

Thanks for bringing this to my attention; made me watch some of his guitar videos. Currently trying to think of a cooler combo than Oblivion power gamer and classical guitarist, but I'm still blank to be honest.

[@GenericMystics]

I built my character COMPLETELY WRONG.

[@peterstangl8295]

don't worry, everyone builds their first character wrong.

[@yamchadragonball6983]

@@loganfrisby2351 Not in oblivion. The world leveling is completely ridiculous. Look up the stats of a minotaur lord.

[@moduntilitbreaks]

Excatly, enjoy the game. Min maxing just takes joy out of the game ;)

[@beefitsum7955]

Petri Hoskonen not for some people

[@moduntilitbreaks]

@@beefitsum7955 Yeah, some people don't play the game :D

[@cohortConnor]

“Personality is probably the worst attribute.” It’s true. My life can attest to this.

[@stairstands1299]

Great video, took me forever to find a good oblivion character guide

[@DVSPress]

Thanks for watching!

[@caiolson7014]

Stair Stands 12 same here.

[@davidestefanizzi7926]

I spent so much time trying to get this shit and after literal YEARS of trying it I finally got how it works: Basically, say you want to level up efficiently your STRENGHT, INTELLIGENCE and ENDURANCE alright? First off you start by choosing as a major skill one skill of each of these attributes, for example: STRENGHT - you choose Blade INTELLIGENCE - you choose Conjuration ENDURANCE - you choose Block Here's how it works: Every time you level up 10 times any of the major skills you chose, in any order (for example you level up Blade by 3, Conjuration by 3 and Block by 4) you're going to level up. If you want to level up efficiently, focus on one attribute at a time: STRENGHT If you level up Blade 3 times, you have to level up a minor skill governed by the STRENGHT attribute 7 times, so you have 10 total skill points earned in STRENGHT in that level. You level up Blade 3 times, then Hand to Hand 7 times. 3 + 7 = 10, so you'll get +5 in STRENGHT. INTELLIGENCE You level up Conjuration 3 times, then Mysticism 7 times so you have 10 points earned for INTELLIGENCE and you'll get +5 INTELLIGENCE ENDURANCE You level up Block 4 times but before that you level up, say, Heavy Armor 6 times. 4 + 6 = 10 points earned for ENDURANCE so you'll get +5 ENDURANCE Of course be careful to level up all your minor skills before hitting 10 points for the major skills, otherwise you're going to level up without getting +5.

[@AcBaLkX]

Davide Stefanizzi this is it, the formula we’ve all been waiting for :D

[@davidestefanizzi7926]

@Kraken Entertainment LLC Probably, yes. I'm italian and in italian it's resistenza, just an overlook.

[@jakardvalentine3377]

ye but isnt this boring ? i started playing with a correct build but if i dont run and do the minor skills which is grindy i will level up and wont have a +5. i chose heavy armor and blade . so i have to get 5 and 5 on each for the +5 on str but at the same time i play a mage so i will lose the +5 on other attributes . to do it you need to grind minor skills every level for 30 minutes adn then play for 30 minutes

[@dr.awesomeisawesome9567]

Omg yes

[@davidestefanizzi7926]

​@@jakardvalentine3377 Yes you have to be pretty committed to it. You can do it without grinding that much if you do it in reverse. For example if you run a mage like you do, instead of choosing say Destruction (which you use a lot) as a major skill and say Alteration as a minor skill, do the opposite. Choose Alteration as a major so you only have to level it up 3 times and you can safely use destruction as much as you want since you have it as a minor skill and it's not a big deal if you level it up a lot.

[@Ov3rshot]

Oblivion: Intro to Efficient Leveling Me: I don't know this, and I don't want to know this.

[@SseriousGgamer3]

Ov3rshot I see what you did there

[@commandersentry1304]

Oh hoh you cheeky bastard..

[@liberator101]

Then just cheat in attribute and skill bonuses so you don't have to grind and enjoy the game.

[@Paladin966]

@@liberator101 wooooosh

[@liberator101]

@@Paladin966 what?

[@bellystraw]

No skimpy female armor? NO ANIME FACE? You sir, are a hack!

[@DVSPress]

I don't think I would look good in female armor, and I prefer having a face of flesh and blood, rather than inked celluloid.

[@OnBrandRP]

Damn

[@zephyrmasterstormforger8687]

Is it possible to learn this power?

[@RSCrushed]

@@zephyrmasterstormforger8687 not from a jedi

[@SseriousGgamer3]

I've spent 40 days on this game literally trying to perfect my character design . I've made more than a hundred characters over and over again because I wasn't satisfied with my custom class. I always wanted to play on very hard and master every step of the leveling system. Trying to get 3-5's every level . Constantly starting over and over and over again. I Fucking hate this endless cycle of nonsense. I wish I was a noob, I wish I sucked at oblivion and never worried about this . I remember the good old days when I started oblivion . The days that I didn't even worry about making a custom class or perfecting my character . Until the day that picking a Breton and a high elf became a nightmare. Choosing the 7 major skills correctly . Using a blunt weapon most of the game even after you chose blade as your major but I didn't want to level up , starting a new game at level 12 because you realized that choosing block blade and heavy armor is keeping you from getting +5 in endurance. Starting over again because I stupidly chose mercantile as my major so I can control my leveling, but only made me angry because restoration was a better option . STARTING AGAIN BECAUSE MY CHARACTER IS TOO SLOW WITH SPEED AT 35, AND HEAVY ARMOR IS MAKING ME RUN LIKE IM HANDICAPPED. Starting over because I chose high elf and I'm getting raped in oblivion realms by literally everything. FUCK YOU OBLIVION . This horrific nightmare still haunts me today . I was playing oblivion today and I just gave up . There's no such thing as a perfect character , it's make belief . We all want it but never got it. Screw you Bethesda . You did this on purpose . My life is never going to be meaningful unless I make the perfect character .

[@JacobByus]

Never give up, it is possible, grind like your life depends on it and join us in our overpowered glory!

[@JacobByus]

The Arena is so damn satisfying with a perfect character. Makes Owyn's intro dialogue about his grandmother being stronger than you that much more hilarious. He has no idea who he is talking to.....

[@JacobByus]

One of my favorite spells is Drain Health 100 in 100 feet for 1 second. Makes those 3 v 1 matches end pretty much instantly. Also made a lethal weakness spell that I pair with a damage spell. Basically 100% weakness to everything but poison for 10 seconds, stacked with the burden + drain strength thing you mentioned earlier. I finish them off while they can't move with a spell that has a 100 point each Drain/Damage (Regular)/Fire/Frost and Shock Damage combo all on touch (To make the cost lower). Feels so unfair sometimes, it is basically a public execution at that point. If my calculations are right, that is 1,300 damage with a single attack (Assuming they don't have any initial resistances).

[@OrlandoAponte]

If you play on PC you can download a simple mod to get +5 every time you level up and finally immerse yourself into the game the way it was intended

[@cameronjames7384]

If you don't give a shit anymore there's a mod that gives you 5 skill points for just 1 associated skill level up

[@kingyellowwolf5256]

I play as an Orc War Cleric: Endurance Willpower Blunt Block Heavy armor Armorer Destruction Restoration Alteration It’s lovely 🥰

[@rapidsqualor5367]

I tried having Armorer, Block and Heavy Armor in my Major (leveling) skills. The first rule of efficient leveling is to get +5 Endurance every level until max, 100. I would hit 100 around level 14 and could not let a single point into any other major skill.

[@billgates1336]

Alt is such an easy skill grind I got to 100 in like an hour just by casting open easy lock on a door

[@drankzz9735]

You seem like such a nice person

[@DVSPress]

Thank you.

[@far_away_rhys]

I really want to understand efficient levelling but thinking about just hurts my head.

[@NotCharAznable]

It’s poorly designed

[@NH-hv9wj]

@@NotCharAznable Imo it's only poor design in terms of it's user friendlyness in modern gaming, you gotta know how it works. But once you do it's just another regular leveling system

[@cu8903]

@@NH-hv9wj its complete dogshit

[@NotCharAznable]

@@NH-hv9wj Even knowing how it works, makes leveling a chore. Even early on

[@NH-hv9wj]

@@NotCharAznable You'd have to explain what part of leveling is "a chore" and what it means. All you need to do is just use the skills and level up after all

[@MarilynMalkovich]

Fuck me, I can smell the cheeto dust from here.

[@kevmofo]

LMFAO!!!

[@jordan1546]

HAHAHA, fucking neckbeards right?

[@drage1019]

Mtn dew vapour

[@MamaWhit87]

Alex Curr hell nooo lmmfaooo

[@bobjones56]

This whole comment chain reeks of stupid.

[@Anastasia2048]

I downloaded all +5 attribute modifier mod. Makes it so much more manageable and enjoyable. I tried efficient leveling, but it was just a pain in the ass and ruined the experience. Shouldn't have to go through all that to play a game and not enjoy it.

[@DVSPress]

Why not just slide down the difficulty slider?

[@Anastasia2048]

@@DVSPress I prefer having the +5 bonuses everytime I level. Even if the game is set at a lower difficulty, you still have to micro manage it.

[@FlyingThunder]

i dont get the "chose useless stuff as major and not level it up so you can controll it" thing... i love oblivion, but im too much of a roleplayer to make big thoughts on how to level up - still, great video, wish you had more on oblivion!

[@DVSPress]

Thanks for watching. Keep in mind this is an optional playstyle.

[@aricgoss]

Ya I picked it up again and everything I’ve read says different things, seems so counterintuitive to NOT level things that it seems like you should be leveling...

[@nezkeys79]

Because if you gain too many levels quickly in the major abilities (by putting stuff there that levels quickly) you can level up before having +10 +10 +10 in your chosen three attributes. If you overlevel your minor skills you wont accidentally level up. Its still inefficient to have +11 or more though but at least you can get +5 +5 +5 easier when you level up. Putting skills you barely use in major skills makes levelling up harder though so I prefer to make my majors stuff I use Morriwind was amazing because you just did a "preparation" of going to a trainer for your skills associated with the atrribute and paid them the necessary amount of times before going out to play the game. This way you guaranteed +5 +5 +5.

[@BibBubDude]

Your background makes this look like this was recorded back in like 2007 or whenever this game came out was lol.

[@drage1019]

Just sit at the beginning of the game let the rats attack you bam easy armor and Block and even armorer

[@christianschaller7873]

Late to the party but here nonetheless, after many years of Oblivion abstinence I was just screwing around in character creation and thought to myself... why even bother with all this crap, just get yourself an attribute multiplier mod or play the damn game as it was meant to be played and try to control your perfection compulsions instead.

[@scubasteve3032]

Thank you so much for this guide! I have recently got into gaming and have stumbled across this gem of a game. Hope you are doing well after all of the years since this guide was made!

[@DVSPress]

Doing great, still playing this and Morrowind and making content on it from time to time.

[@helloimnormalright9873]

I almost maxed out my acrobatics because I have a habit of jumping thinking it'll make me faster

[@christianmalo4980]

Absolutly OP character build = Altmer + Vampire + Atronach + 100% Chameleon (just to be safe since Altmers have low HP). With all the Attributes and Skills capped this build is just insane. First, with so much mana you'll be able to cast custom spells that have a VERY high mana cost but will simply destroy pretty much anyting in front of you and honestly, not having auto-regen for the mana isn't much of a problem, there are a lot of ways to gain mana and the Atronach sign already gives Spell Absorption 50% on Self to begin with. Second, in true vampire form your Athletic and Acrobatics will both reach 120 (and even more with enchanted stuff, the Felldew exploit etc...) so you'll run and jump like crazy. And finally, 100% Chameleon allows you to be almost always completely undetectable so no need to really worry about the character's low HP. I admit this build is a total game-breaker, but that's exactly the point, and why I like it so much. Being a vampire demi-god can be so satisfying after all! :)

[@Joao42]

I think he meant spells created by u, that are custom, u can make them in the mage guild for example... its part of the game

[@christianmalo4980]

Yep, that's exactly what I was talking about. :)

[@sogeking2398]

100% chameleon is cheap ass bull shit

[@HolyknightVader999]

100 chameleon on any race can kill anything. I beat Jyggalag on the highest difficulty using that.

[@nicholas3141]

My vampire orc would like a word with complete immunity to magic and of course berserker rage

[@cavareenvius7886]

One tip that helped me very much was: Don't chose skills that you use often as you main skills. If you want to be a tanky warrior, you must take magic or dexerity based skills. Don't make much sense roll play wise but that's how this game works. And never ever waste a point in charisma because it useless.

[@Danlovar]

Cavare Envius I have done that in Morrowind. I wanted to be a pure mage and built a warrior high elf. That means you can beat the whole Vvardenfell at Lv 1 because how skilled your enemies are. Edited: this mage became Archmage at Lv 1 and Archmagister Telvanni at Lv 2.

[@iambetterthanHLG]

That doesnt make sense to me. My character is working fine though :D

[@rayrigdonjr1633]

Watching this in 2019 thanks for the pointers learned a lot from this video

[@DaFreeze220]

Best mod I ever downloaded for Oblivion is the one that makes you gain +5 to any attribute that you have leveled (even if you only leveled 1 point). The thing I love the most about Oblivion is the gameplay, the stories, exploration.. and it completely removes the tedium/anxiety of having to level efficiently or track your skills. This video is great though if you enjoy the skill farming and complexity of Oblivion's leveling system.

[@breerowe9191]

I really like this video! No idea of how I stumbled into it but I was feeling an itch to play oblivion again when I did. I had no idea the leveling was so complex as the last time I played I went in blind and just did whatever. It seems incredibly interesting and I'm glad you made a fairly detailed and easy to understand tutorial/explaination about it.

[@sameersingh-oy9rp]

2020 and im still coming to watch this

[@BlackUnicornRider]

Same, it's the best most straightforward explanation video on Oblivion leveling I've found.

[@maxvanleeuwen1273]

I'd recommend just roleplaying a character you like, and if the game has outlevelled you around lvl 20, just slide down the difficulty a little bit. I find that more nejoyable than being forced to grind endurance when i want to be pure mage or stealth.

[@temerodiavolo470]

saving at the exit is GENIUS

[@dustinsmith2021]

I put well over a thousand hours into oblivion but I never knew about the fel dew thing. I have to replay oblivion now

[@pizzafrenzyman]

you have the obsessive-compulsive skill.

[@pervotheclown2199]

I wouldn't recommend using athletics as a major because you're gonna level up too fast and by the 8 level you're gonna be able to run from stuff but not be strong enough to fight . Don't level up too quickly or the game will eat you up .

[@UnconsciousCardanTheForgetful]

Yea you're exactly right. I thought it was great soaring through levels. Until I had to run my poor scout all the way to Skingrad with 3 trolls on my ass.

[@faelock12]

Until you get the umbra sword and everything is chased by you

[@ticky7817]

just started Oblivion yesterday. so confused on skills/attributes and read so many conflicting things. finally found this video. clearly know what you're talking about so I am so grateful for this guide on how to start. thank you. now if only I could create a real human instead of a monstrosity

[@DVSPress]

Try the better faces 2 mod. I think it minimized the "wax mask" look from 2006.

[@SanxNoel]

thanks man, i was searching for this since last year in july but i couldn't find a thing. i really appreciate that. nice work man really. (i'm sorry about the poor english, i'm brazilian ;c)

[@DVSPress]

+San NoeL Thanks for watching! Don't apologize, your English is fine!

[@SanxNoel]

+David Stewart thanks xD, maybe you could make a gameplay of oblivion doing this efficient leveling. but it's just an ideia, if you're busy i understand

[@erickhenriques6219]

Huebros

[@jamesharris5232]

that "overdone" nord face looked quite similar to Lucius Malfoy.

[@jamesharris5232]

Well damn, I'm on console so I can't get the book. It'll be a little harder for me but I guess I'll need the shivering isles dlc to get my feldu addiction if I really want to obliterate people into oblivion (no pun intended, okay, maybe) on what I'm assuming to be "master" difficulting judging the increments in which the slider moves when you hit rb/lb or rt/lt.

[@DVSPress]

Gotta love that feldew. It's also an old game at this point, so you can probably run it on any modern PC (even a cheap one) without difficulty. Steam sells it pretty often for like 3-5 bucks with all the dlc (including OMG HORSE ARMORS), if you want to consider that.

[@jamesharris5232]

David Stewart Sweet. I'm still on the consoles with the 360 and PS3. I usually tend to find older games after playing the newer ones. I did the same with Dark Souls. Started with Dark Souls 2, found Dark Souls 1, and ended up getting a PS3 for Demon's Souls. Always late to the party here.

[@DVSPress]

One thing I can say is that games do not on average get better as time goes on. The opposite, in many cases. What improves is the graphics, and good graphics do not make a good game. Old games a great.

[@jamesharris5232]

That's always my point when someone argues graphics matter. In certain cases, possibly, but growing up (if I still had the systems) I played games with what would be considered "poor" quality graphics wise yet have a better and solid story to it than most modern day games. Every era does have it's white buffalo games though.

[@VandalCleaver]

I love when people go insane with minmaxing in games,I'd never do it,but it's fun to watch.

[@DVSPress]

It takes a certain meticulous nature.

[@ArmsportGamer]

You can absolutely make beautiful characters in oblivion without any mods at all. If you are interested I can probably put a video about this together. Granted, if that is something people actually want to see.

[@anon2447]

@@ArmsportGamer meeee. i'm interested!!!

[@urbansk8r231]

Youuu hoooo ... Im down with that 👍

[@stug3719]

@@ArmsportGamer Not sure if the offer is valid two years later, but I'd watch the video!

[@tomkimmel8157]

2.5 minutes in yes endurance governs health gain per level. Played morrowind gotye for years and in the end character creation where you select skills looked horrible like what did I make. Yeah but it made leveling endurance and strength or I think willpower for encumbrance or manna gain easy and fast. I worked out a crazy way leveling minors so it gave max 3 or 5 extra per skill I forgot it's been years. But I skipped oblivion lol I got morrowind like 6 months before oblivion came out and learned how to prevent game freezing after having disc cleaned to many times and blockbuster just got oblivion in and I'm trying to buy morrowind for xbox uhhhh yeah tell me it's pc while I'm holding an xbox disc ganestop stop had it anyways I played morrowind for several years while other people played oblivion. Max all stats early was easy when you figure it out on paper it's a confusing mess but that sweet melee spot to the left of enemy's head is why people don't like the combat but when you figure it out it's easy. This guide of yours might be like how I did morrowind and then skyrim plan out leveling ups for max efficiency.

[@JasonShallPerish]

I still don't understand how to get +5 attributes on a level-up. I'll increase my blade from 30 to 40, and my strength attribute will only be a +2 when it's time to level. I've continuously increased three major skills by at least 10 on one level and there will be a +4 on one attribute, a +3 on another , and a +2 on the other one even though they were all increased by 10. I don't worry about minor skills because I thought they don't affect your attributes at all. I'm missing something about this efficient leveling system. If I raise all my skills related to an attribute by more than 10 combined, does that decrease the +5? Do I have to raise all three skills for an attribute by EXACTLY 10 combined to get the +5? And if I raise other skills by 10 also does that screw up the attributes I was intentionally targeting for that level up? For instance I spammed the shit out of my conjure spells whenever I walked anywhere outside and raised it by like 18 in one level, and only raised my targeted skills by 10 or 12. Did raising skills on non-targeted attributes keep me from getting the +5 on attributes I WAS targeting on that level? This shit is really confusing. I've restarted my characters like 4 times already trying to figure it out.

[@DVSPress]

First, any skill ups you get AFTER the level-up message roll over into your next level. You have to get all your skill-ups prior to getting 10 TOTAL major skill skill-ups to cause you to level. Getting 18 major skill points and refusing to sleep will just cause you to level up (possibly several times in a row). In order to get +5 you MUST get levels in your minor skills, not just your major skills. Your major skills are what causes you to level up (10 skill-ups total in any set of skills), but your attribute gain is determined by the skill points you gain in each attribute area, regardless of whether it is a major or minor skill. For instance, strength governs blade, block, and blunt. You can get 10 skills in any combination of these to hit the +5 when you level up. So, usually you want to manage your skills so that you get 10 skill ups in three areas (30 total) BEFORE seeing the level up message, with 10 of those skill points being in major skills and the rest on minor skills. Hope that helps.

[@JasonShallPerish]

First of all thank you for the rapid and thorough response to my question, that's going above and beyond. Also I didn't know the level-up prompt would cut off any further attribute increases for the next level, so that's good to know. Basically I'm going to figure out which three attributes I want to raise during each level and then stop using the associated skills when they add up to exactly 10. Then I'll hit my major total for a level up. Hopefully I got that right. I also restarted my character with major skills that I seldom use but can easily spam so that way I can control when I level up. Than I can just increase minor skills through natural gameplay until I get my 10 skill raises on each desired attribute, then spam up a couple major skills for the level-up. Guess I'll see how that works out. Thanks again for the advise.

[@DVSPress]

No problem. Also don't sweat it if you don't get +5 every time as there are more levels than attributes achievable for most classes. Endurance is the only one I would be truly anal about unless (like me, I guess) you have a tedious nature. Only endurance has cumulative effects that build and build the earlier you max out the attribute, as far as I know.

[@JasonShallPerish]

I figured out the leveling system finally. I deleted my Breton that was being slowly out-leveled by enemies and started over with a Dunmer which is a better race for my style of play. I maxed out my Endurance early and have gotten the 5/5/5 attribute increase every level-up, so I'm much happier with my new character because it's a lot stronger per level, and more well-rounded character overall which was my main goal. Thanks again!

[@justin1730]

You can only get 3 attribute points for each skill, 1 for each primary skill increase. You will need at least 2 skills based in strength to get 5 points when you level. You can also get 1 attribute point for every 3 secondary skill increases. If blade and hand to hand are main attributes, you need 3 blade, and 2 hand to hand skill increases to get 5 strength points when you level up. If hand to hand is secondary, you need 3 blade and 6 hand to hand skill increases. If both are secondary, you need 9 blade, and 6 hand to hand increases.

[@quintinnowak-wolff7658]

The ratio for points per luck is 4 points per 10 in luck, in case you needed it, up to a max of 20 invisible bonus points to all skills except for acrobatics and athletics

[@ArcaneTurbulence]

"Hitpoints" is not the "end all Be all" of Oblivion. For instance... If you want to be a bad-ass mage, you should be picking highelf, and taking the atronach sign then stacking mana sigils. Who needs a billion hitpoints when you have enough mana to create an area of effect spell that kills everything around you instantly. "The best defence is a good offense!" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@radforduniversity6424]

Oh man, I haven't played Oblivion in forever. I remember I had a character that invisible ( I "crafted" items that gave 20% invis to items with grand soul gems I think) and it basically broke the game, haha. I miss the days when developers would still make single player games

[@buckhunt6832]

Please explain how

[@white_bread9045]

@@buckhunt6832 sigil stones can grant you chameleon. 100% chameleon let's you do whatever you want to a person and no one will attack you. The gray cowl of nocturnal and armor with 100% chameleon go hand and hand together.

[@buckhunt6832]

@@white_bread9045 where do I get this stuff

[@urbansk8r231]

What i hate is when developers turn single player games into multiple player. They cared more about the aspects involved in multiplayer than the rich storylines single player game had. - Take Fable 1, & 2 on xbox 360 for example - i was sitting in a few parties when fable 2 had been out for awhile, all people talked about was, what job they had in game, who's having sex with whom ,and what diseases they got lol. Im thinking, '' what about the storylines..?'' Anyway i remember a friend of mine had an argument over the fact that his gfs character had sex with someone else's character instead of his. lol that was so ridiculous to me.What you do in a game has no reflection of what you do in real life. I also remember a girl in a game calling me childish because of my avatar. She obviously thought that my avatar reflects me in real life lol so i said look..i come on xbox to let my hair down an relax. Im having fun..not being serious. I save that for the real world. Get to know someone before you judge them.

[@thalassaer4137]

@@urbansk8r231 sounds like a you problem

[@PrinceRahorakhty]

Getting addicted to felldew after you have raised your attributes is really helpful. Information like that is hard to find. 💯

[@samss108]

I want a video of you rapidly pressing the space bar

[@Savepointgames1]

Thankyou so much for this. I've been searching the Internet for a while trying to figure this method out, and you made it exceptionally clear and precise In your explanation. Great video, cheers!

[@DVSPress]

Thanks for watching!

[@bozzythedrummer9794]

It's 2023 and i've been playing this game religiously since 2008 and i'm just now getting around to efficient levelling. This video explained it perfectly.

[@spacewalrus7820]

As far as magic goes you can join the mages guild get access to the arcane University and make spells that cost one mp for any school of magic. Careful not to over level in one go keep track

[@purpleAiPEy]

I got the perfect regimen for a Warrior: Go to the Arena, get heavy armour arena rainment, spawn skeleton, get hit by it to level up minor skill heavy armour (Endurance). Then, punch the shit out of it for Hand2Hand skill (Strength). Conjuration will level so either use that to level up or make it a minor skill. Sleep in the bedrolls for instant HP and Mana recovery.

[@mildmagician2764]

purpleAiPEy or you can do the rats method

[@newend2116]

Pretty good mod makes them look not like playdoh aliens

[@JakeKoenig]

Dude I watched your video a few years ago when I first started playing Oblivion. I had an obsession with creating the strongest character possible, and this video was a huge help on figuring out the 5/5/5 or 5/5/1 system, and why Endurance is so important to max out first. I started keeping an Excel sheet to record my skill numbers after every level up, and plan out which attributes to raise on each level. Maxing out every attribute and skill is half the fun for me. Anyway I appreciate this video for getting me on the right track. I'm on my 8th or 9th playthrough and I've fine-tuned all the advanced strats by now, basically achieving God mode by getting 100% reflect damage/resist magic and two-shotting every boss with the Hatreds Soul bow and arrows. Oblivion has become my favorite game of all time.

[@DVSPress]

I have a 100% reflect set and it's really fun aggroing all the guards in the imperial city and watching them kill themselves on me. Thanks for watching!

[@SkaterBlades]

Very late comment on this but I'm on my first oblivion playthrough. My major skills are blade, marksman, sneak, light armour, conjuration, destruction and restoration. I feel like i made my character significantly underpowered by athletics training every level (I'm level 18). I already knew the scroll dupe glitch and a bunch of skill grinds which I've been abusing heavily. I wish i took some easy to grind dump skills as my major skills instead, like speechcraft, i made a spell that charms 100 on touch and fortifies personality on myself by 100 so anyone i use that on instantly likes me making that skill useless. If i wanted to level with it as a major skill because i had +5 in the attributes i wanted, i could go up to a guard and spam the persuasion wheel to level up

[@icetrey8662]

I figure out a way to maximize my level in this game but it was like 15 years ago. All I remember was that it was ass backwards. Hopefully this video will remind me.

[@Beleth420]

You should make a lets play with efficient levelling it would help so much. And I am pretty interested in the way you play this game. I usually do the good guilds first then the evil or the other way around so I cant use the shrines due to infamy. I always leave knights till after the evil quests that get infamy so I can completely wipe it. That might just be me though :P I don't really fast travel either because you see some cool shit.

[@wraithguard2088]

I was introduced to the elder scrolls with Morrowind and it was my favorite game as a young man. When oblivion came out my friends and I played it until there was nothing left to play. And now I’ve learned I haven’t been leveling correctly my whole life lmfao 😂 I had to start a new character immediately after watching this video

[@LiamD613]

The one rule I stick to when I set out on creating a max-stats character is that I always pick one major skill for each of the 7 different attributes. My current character has these Major Skills Strength - Blade Intelligence - Conjuration Willpower - Alteration Agility - Marksman Speed - Light Armor Endurance - Heavy Armor Personality - Illusion Pick and choose as you like, but sticking to this rule will allow you to spread the 10 Major Skill points per level up across the 3 different attributes you want to train, and gives you a choice of 9 skills to use at any time. I do this to try and negate some of the issues that are built into the oblivion levelling system. If you need to sell stuff to get rid of excess carry weight or make some cash, you’ll run the risk of increasing your mercantile skill. Equally, preventing yourself from levelling up athletics & acrobatics is virtually impossible when playing the game. If you aren’t arsed about a lost skill point here or there then it’s not an issue, but if you’re trying to get perfect stats it can be a real ball ache getting a skill increase in something you didn’t want to increase. Having one major skill for each attribute that you can consciously decide on wether you’re going to use it or not is a massive help.

[@aratajoka4165]

I watch this before starting each new character and I still manage to fuck it up.

[@FerLopez5]

wonderful guide, now i can finally make a badass battlemage.

[@mikeyb0121]

Damn saving at the end of the sewers, why did I never think of that

[@ImperatorBaldo]

Amazing video, I played Oblvion since I was 12. Still I learnt something ne.

[@malbowz1257]

Great video! Dave, I found your channel and subscribed after seeing your The Force Awakens review and have enjoyed your content immensely ever sense. However it is awesome / weird that you are ALSO into something as obscure as efficient leveling in Oblivion! We share many of the same interests.

[@neighborhoodkids2000]

This was so well done thanks for the info! I also recommend using alchemy and duplicating (scroll glitch) cheese slices and apples to train intelligence for more mana alongside endurance for more health!

[@gwouru]

mana is just a multiple of your intelligence, and doesn't benefit from having it higher earlier, unlike health, which is a bonus per level, based on endurance.

[@ExtoGameplay]

wtf that breton looks really good

[@alexdavinci9533]

I always choose 5 skills I wont be using regularly. I also pick 2 skills to use whenever I want to level up. This way, I'll level up more efficiently.

[@zentikk]

+Alex da Vinci what are those 2 skills for example and that 5 you wont using regurarly? thx for aswering

[@alexdavinci9533]

+Zentikk My 7 major skills are athletics, acrobatics, destruction, restoration, mysticism, illusion and mercantile. I usually choose illusion ad mysticism because I can level up whenever I need to. The other 5 I can lvl up slowly or inadvertently. Keep in mind that you have to lvl up other skills, besides the abovementioned, in order to lvl up 3 attributes 5+ each.

[@zentikk]

+Alex da Vinci What abautt Specializiacion? Combat, Magic or Stealth? I guess you went Combat becasue athletics and acrobatics will grow faster with Stealth and could be less contronable?

[@alexdavinci9533]

Zentikk Whichever one you prefer. I use to choose combat because it lvls up blade and blunt much faster.

[@DVSPress]

+Zentikk Choose whichever one you want to spend the least effort leveling up. Stealth is nice because it actually can be difficult to level sneak with "normal" play, but armorer and block are very annoying to level up as well.

[@saddlesoap_exe]

This drives me crazy. I used to play this on ps3 but once i learned about the leveling problem it wasnt fun anymore. Then i went and did the attribute glitch, but that was unfulfilling as i dont enjoy a game unless i play legit. So now im gonna try and find a pc mod that gives you 15 points every level and then ill play on pc. I dont see how people can enjoy leveling like this. For me it absolutely kills it. Otherwise its a great game.

[@DVSPress]

You don't have to play the game this way at all. This is just one way to play for people who really want to maximize character power. If you like using only a limited number of skills, the standard way of playing is just fine. I've had fun both ways.

[@saddlesoap_exe]

I agree with you. But i have ocd and it drives me crazy. I found a mod that increases 3 attributes by 5 no matter how you play. So you can play the game like a normal person and not be pentalized for it. I really like it alot.

[@placeholderplaceholder4817]

You don't have OCD, lmao.

[@samueljackson3512]

blipperbop So you still have a link to the mod??

[@arintheseatsesh6242]

blipperbop Everything was fine until "ocd" gargle razors kiddo lmao you have no idea what that is like. I bet you have depression and anxiety with just a hunt of aggression. Wow, you're different! Fuck off lmao

[@CziffraTheThird]

Which mod are you using for face reconstruction? It looks awesome!

[@kevmofo]

Had ta watch it twice because I realized 2/3rds of the way thru the first veiw I got pissed because I needed ta take notes, lol. Thanx

[@NukeCaulfield]

Does this really matter much though? Cant i just lower the difficulty setting and play however i want?

[@BilzoToGo]

I wish my brain would let me think like people like you... but yes depending on how low that bar is you could potentially make it through the game without even sleeping.

[@LionProductionsHD]

Custom > pick one of each attribute.. str, end, int etc and level the str 10 times then level a different minor skill like end or whatever 10 times then rest in bed you'll pick str+5 and end+5 then get luck rinse and repeat

[@LionProductionsHD]

I know this vid is old but still much better than Skyrim lol

[@soljaboi911]

Sadly this vid didnt help, i had to find a writeup online. When you get 10 levels in a major skill, that is what levels you up. So your suppose to do your minor skills by ten first as they dont level you up. Ten levels equal +5 for the attribute its under. Which is also why they tell you to pick one from each group as a major.

[@wyattd8423]

Dude this is perfect thank you

[@moduntilitbreaks]

What is that face mod? So, if you play stealth character, how do you beef endurance? Go heavy armor and blunt in between sneaking around? Haha.

[@firstlast6877]

around 9:30 you say to choose one major skill associated with each attribute (strength, intelligence, willpower, agility, speed, endurance, personality). Why?

[@dawgshiiiiiiiiiii8828]

Too complicated dawg

[@anon2447]

one thing is that hwen i got oblivion for my 360 years ago i would find my character become a non-factor around level 14 if i didn't level efifciently, everything even a simple wolf would become super lethal

[@irieite9666]

The same exact thing happened to me. And if I ran into a mountain lion it was an instant death. And don't get me started on those bastard bandits suddenly showing up head to toe in glass or ebony armours lol.

[@Icebear2012]

After Skyrim all this worrying about getting max skills is very off putting. I wonder if i can complete game without getting brick walled in normal difficulty doing whatever i want and choosing whatever skills? Maybe just making sure getting max endurance and rest whatever comes? Getting +3 +4 still gets ge through normal level game?

[@DVSPress]

Yes just make sure you don't make all the skills you want to use major skills. Keep some as minor skills. So don't pick heavy armor, block, and armorer. Just pick one of the three. It slows down leveling, but since Oblivion, like Skyrim, changes the level of enemies, there's no reason to level quickly.

[@Icebear2012]

@@DVSPress I will do so then. Thank you :)

[@spacejesus6581]

For the birth sign, I like to go with Steed, I’m fine missing out on some bonuses if it means I move faster than a slug on a treadmill to start, and it’s great for any build, the only other one I get is Shadow for stealth builds, but there are spells in game that do the same effect so I’m usually inclined to Steed

[@irieite9666]

Atronach is great with a high elf and 100 intelligence. You can create spells that are like nuke blasts.

[@spicyavotoast]

I needed this video. Thanks man.

[@lorddeath6300]

My intelligence just went up 5 points cuz of this video thx 😁👌

[@luckyblue5089]

The way you present this info makes it so much easier to digest compared to other guides I've looked at. Thank you!!

[@gwpeoples]

I feel like with Oblivion they took an already complicated levelling system from Morrowind and asked "how can we make it more complicated?"

[@darthdragonborn1552]

Classic Bethesda incompetence

[@achtonkellerfredberg2653]

This video is a godsend!

[@OsamaBinLooney]

i haven't played Oblivion since the PS3 was new just picked the game of the year edition up on Steam for 70% off today this helped to get me back into the weird leveling system

[@timandfergusmydog5831]

What if your on xbox one lol

[@DVSPress]

Pen and paper I guess.

[@johnprager662]

You know, the leveling system wouldn't be so bad if the game actually tracked your skill/attribute progress. If you don't have the Skill Diary mod, then you have to keep track with pencil and paper. A built-in system would take a lot of the guesswork out of it

[@jarvisthejackal2418]

Doesn't luck also effect the quality of the items you can find in containers? I ran and luck/speed character and I would frequently find enchanted items in chests.

[@DVSPress]

No, Luck does not affect that. Technically luck gives a boost to all of your skills at I believe 4 to 1. So, at the end of the game (when your skills are maxed) it has no effect, but has a subtle effect at lower levels.

[@jarvisthejackal2418]

Huh. Well that is good to know. I wish luck had more of an interesting role in Bethesda games then.

[@vague6556]

i tried to be a mage with a imperial and i realised i was so wrong

[@mrssadieadler4874]

Damm I should of watched this before playing I’m halfway throu now 🥺🥺🥺🤣🤣🤣

[@DVSPress]

It shouldn't stop you from having a good time :)

[@nexus3756]

you know what i like about you... you show your face. not alot of gaming channels i watch do that. it adds a personal touch. and i can see you talking. its something i like for sure. you got yourself a sub

[@DVSPress]

Thanks for watching!

[@goblintacos88]

This video is how I first found your channel a long time ago but with a different account and I've been meaning to sub to you with my actual gaming channel, I'm hoping to do a Oblivion playthrough with efficient leveling on my channel, thanks so much for this video, I always come back to this when I'm playing normally, hope you have a great 2021, come check out the channel if you want.

[@PrinceRahorakhty]

On max difficulty, when you have full absorption. Magicka only affects you if it's a reflected spell. Atronach is brutal early game. Late game, it's the best. Customize your own spell, with 100 mysticism you will absorb telekinesis. Use that to recharge your magic.

[@oyasumigabriel]

i'm really wish had a friend like you in high school

[@Tribble6hatch]

i´m working on a orc mage :D