So what have we learned here? A) Cadorna was the best Austrian General of the war B) When all else fails, call Germans to fight for you.
@napoleonibonaparte71988 жыл бұрын
Marek Dohojda I think, the best was Marshal Schwarzenberg of Austria XD. I appointed him Marshal but he barely knows tactics! Lmao
@abu-hureraali45317 жыл бұрын
Napoleon I Bonaparte It was Mack single handedly defended Ulm capturing the entire French army and all while he was drunk.
@jrk16665 жыл бұрын
@slovene ball its a joke about how bad cadorna was at doing his job
@13gladiusToKnot5 жыл бұрын
@@jrk1666 Carefull, he may be one of Cadorna's descendents
@guilhermegarcia87503 жыл бұрын
Rommel and 30 germans beat Cadorna.
@Nikolapoleon8 жыл бұрын
Luigi Cadorna: The only general in human history that could possibly be beaten by Conrad Von Hotzendorf
@gcircle8 жыл бұрын
and not because Conrad was superior, but because Cadorna outhotzendorfed himself
@mattosterud55398 жыл бұрын
He would have compared solidly to Constantin Prezan. (The head of the Rumanian army.)
@TheManofthecross8 жыл бұрын
try saying "outhotzendorfed" or just outhotzendorf 10 times fast.
@konradvonschnitzeldorf65068 жыл бұрын
true tho
@vector27996 жыл бұрын
and enver pasa
@manuelmarianosilva76857 жыл бұрын
Cadorna's reputation is indeed so bad that those italians who emmigrated to Argentina during, or shortly after, WWI started using his name as a way of saying that something was useless. Whenever someone complained too much about anything they couldn't really do anything about, they would reply "go complain to Cadorna". The expresion became so popular that, to this day it is still used, now as a simple noun devoid of the personal reference, to refer to low quality things. "Ésto es una cadorna!" (literally "this is a cadorna") is a fairly common expression amongst argentinians of any origin, which denotes low quality and/or uslessness.
@mazadancoseben48183 жыл бұрын
😂🤣🤣🤣 Man made a legacy
@Urlocallordandsavior2 жыл бұрын
Is this true?
@sitrakaforler86962 жыл бұрын
Dam really ? 😂
@gustavokibasha15852 жыл бұрын
Never heard this and i live in argentina, probably not in use anymore
@gustidu6 ай бұрын
Yes is true. I'm argentinian. Older generations often calls "cadorna" of anything of low quality.
@thexalon8 жыл бұрын
Cadorna: World War I's Zapp Brannigan. "Stop dying, you cowards!"
@ZayanK8 жыл бұрын
thexalon There's nothing sexy about Cadorna's learning disabilities!
@Pikkabuu7 жыл бұрын
Hey. Brannigan is more competent than Cadorna could have ever dreamed of.
@ackershus62767 жыл бұрын
That's insanely hilarious!!!
@EcsMurphy8 жыл бұрын
Luigi Cardorna, the ultimate EU4 player focusing only and purely on morale.
@napoleonibonaparte71988 жыл бұрын
Ecs Murphy The one who keeps rebuilding each lost unit and keeps getting mowed down by tanks
@lordpinochetuttp38196 жыл бұрын
Morale is useless, it's all about the discipline
@ЧылгычыОндар-ю1о2 жыл бұрын
@@lordpinochetuttp3819 American generals in vietnam be like
@MrMarinus18 Жыл бұрын
But for one so obsessed with moral he didn't really do a lot of work to improve it.
@FlagAnthem Жыл бұрын
You mean Diaz
@Flakfire8 жыл бұрын
How not to be a General 101.
@Ashfielder8 жыл бұрын
Flakfire "What do you mean the battle was lost? Do it again! And again! And again and again and again!"
@Geckogamer198 жыл бұрын
Toby Wood "have you tried to turn it on and off again"
@michaellejeune77156 жыл бұрын
His major pupil being marshal Haig.
@internethardcase3 жыл бұрын
But how to be an Italian 101.
@operationmeh8 жыл бұрын
I've waited for this video for 112 years, and 113 battles on the Isonzo.
@TheManofthecross8 жыл бұрын
you mean just 12 there.
@operationmeh8 жыл бұрын
No I don't
@napoleonibonaparte71988 жыл бұрын
The Guy Good, I waited my entire lifetime and for the advent of internet for this...
@caake47938 жыл бұрын
DAYS SINCE LAST BATTLE FOR THE ISONZO: 0
@l.o44568 жыл бұрын
Haha xD
@theastrogamer7108 жыл бұрын
"seconds"
@mattiagordon94818 жыл бұрын
Seaman Staines achutualy that woud be 4 months
@mergele10008 жыл бұрын
The big question here is not the number at the end of the sign, but if someone wasted time and resources design the sign in a way hat could display other numbers.
@wach91918 жыл бұрын
Comedy gold right here. I feel a bit bad about all those poor soldiers...
@zosko18 жыл бұрын
The finest general who ever lived. When a strategy didn't work, he courageously tried it again! And again.
@yaldabaoth28 жыл бұрын
I wonder if he would have had enough courage to remove headphone jacks.
@zosko18 жыл бұрын
I think he would, but after three years of trying, they'd only be half way off.
@podemosurss83167 жыл бұрын
And again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again and again.
@homuraakemi16847 жыл бұрын
and again and again. I believe combined, that's one for each battle of the isonzo
@podemosurss83167 жыл бұрын
After all: "General Cadorna has lost his head, he calls 099 to say he pees on bed" (Italian WW1 song translated).
@FluffyBuzzard2TheMax8 жыл бұрын
Mario has more military knowledge than Luigi Cadorna
@joey80628 жыл бұрын
what about Bowser
@manfromnantucket95446 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a little hairy man in red overalls jumping around in Austrian trenches causing general havoc
@meme-oy7ic5 жыл бұрын
he would go to Berlin if he was in charge
@PeruvianPotato4 жыл бұрын
@@manfromnantucket9544 Then Mecha Hitler from Wolfenstein 3D comes in to machine gun the Italian army
@alexamerling794 жыл бұрын
Damn right he does. That's why they call them the super MARIO brothers and not Luigi lol
@angels2online8 жыл бұрын
The man, the myth, the legend.
@Denis-yz5dq8 жыл бұрын
LUIGI CADORNA!!!!
@StrangerOman6 жыл бұрын
The meme.
@TheGM-20XX8 жыл бұрын
If at first you don't succeed, Try, try, try again. then when that don't work try some more. then another 7 or so times.
@TheGreatWar8 жыл бұрын
The Cadorna rule.
@whiterosecicero48028 жыл бұрын
That should be a quote on a shirt.
@dekametr8 жыл бұрын
that is also Douglas Haig tactic
@l.o44568 жыл бұрын
+Deka Metr Yep
@Ganjalfiltubo8 жыл бұрын
Have I ever told you the definition of insanity?
@timdewit60888 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest, that 'it's a nice way to say I'm ugly'-quote cracked me up. Sure he was an authoritarian, foolhardy, prima donna, incompetent generalissimo, but at least he had some humor.
@tomnook40488 жыл бұрын
This war is truly fascinating!!! It's such a shame how this point in human history is overshadowed by the Second World War. Keep up the great work Indy and team!
@dams68298 жыл бұрын
Indeed my asexual friend.
@gavin1698 жыл бұрын
Even T.E. Lawrence enjoys your stuff, proves how well you're all doing. Keep it up!
@mazadancoseben48183 жыл бұрын
@@gavin169 , what? Oh. Got it
@andrewwilson51338 жыл бұрын
Luigi "break that line or it's court martial time" Cadorna Luigi "the human sausage-maker" Cadorna Luigi "it's no killing field if you kill in the mountains" Cadorna Luigi "After Isonzo those Austrians are donezo" Cadorna Luigi "the second coming of Pyrrhus" Cadorna Luigi "to make the Austrians go, I must kill the dago" Cadorna Luigi "to secure the Isonzo my troops will be gonezo" Cadorna Luigi "spill my spaghetti, turn my men into confetti" Cadorna Luigi "a tenth time will kill the kraut, I have no doubt" Cadorna Luigi "1000 Arditi for every pollice" Cadorna Luigi "Italian Hotzendorf" Cadorna Luigi "If you had eleven shots, eleven oportunities" Cadorna Luigi "Advance, what is that?" Cadorna Luigi "It's not a battle until I lose at least ten thousand men" Cadorna Luigi "One more division" Cadorna Luigi "Send more infantry" Cadorna Luigi "Eleventh time's the charm" Cadorna Luigi "Bring the casualties up to eleven" Cadorna Luigi "Spaghetti and meat grinders" Cadorna Luigi "The Man from P.Y.R.R.H.U.S" Cadorna Luigi "Isonzodlwana" Cadorna Luigi "HE DID IT AGAIN" Cadorna Luigi "We have reserves" Cadorna Luigi "Italians? In MY army?" Cadorna
@Kenbow1836 жыл бұрын
I can't breathe, this is perhaps one of the two funniest things I have seen in the comments after watching The Great War.
@awildtannerwasfound50455 жыл бұрын
Spill my spaghetti the troops become ravioli.
@Adonnus1005 жыл бұрын
Isonzodlwana lmao
@lawrencemiller74424 жыл бұрын
Hahaha😂😂🇺🇸🇺🇸 Luigi "They can't possibly kill all my men!" Cadorna
@harrisonvc91754 жыл бұрын
Luigi “who needs big guns to take down the hun?” Cadorna
@curiobill8 жыл бұрын
Did the Austro-Hungarians ever give him any medals?
@gunnerr84768 жыл бұрын
I am Isonzo and this video was very "offensive"
@ncrveteranranger91266 жыл бұрын
Afnan Zahran lmao
@kevinoneal97798 жыл бұрын
Who's ready for 372628th battle of the Isonzo?
@mattiagordon94818 жыл бұрын
Kevin O'Neal oh they win on the 13th
@mergele10008 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with you? That was three days ago.
@HaloFTW558 жыл бұрын
Is there enough troops left?
@darthguilder19238 жыл бұрын
Ivan Lee no but we'll do it anyway
@hemmingwayfan8 жыл бұрын
Ivan Lee Just Luigi, his wife, and their pet tortoise, Alan.
@------o7 жыл бұрын
"Beatings will continue until morale improves" - Generalisimo I 1916
@mariocassina908 жыл бұрын
Luigi's main strategy to overcome austro-hungarian lines was to jump on the head of the enemy...
@TheGreatWar8 жыл бұрын
+Mario Cassina but it only worked for the Austro-Hungarian mushroom corps
@talatq7198 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I see what you did there!
@RawkLobstah887 жыл бұрын
Luigi Cadorna: Victory is determined by the demoralization of the enemy. Also Luigi Cadorna: STOP EXPLODING, YOU COWARDS!
@raduvlad44295 жыл бұрын
@Peter S stfu.
@hiroprotagonest4 жыл бұрын
7:43 "When the Italian army faced disaster in the field, he would not blame his own failings, or his enemy's skill, but rather, he found fault within his own troops." Ah, Cadorna was the typical solo queue player.
@canicheenrage8 жыл бұрын
"Did i ever tell you what the definition of insanity is ?" Luigi Cadorna, apocryphal, 1917.
@Pedro_FerrandiАй бұрын
There was no other way to go but Isonzo
@SuperAerie8 жыл бұрын
That man was as far from being a Roman as possible. The romans were especially known for being very pragmatic in just about everything and had a very good grasp of the logistics of prolonged military campaigns, same cant be said about Cadorna at all
@Urlocallordandsavior2 жыл бұрын
Cadorna was arguably too pragmatic in constantly attacking the same location over and over.
@doigt6590 Жыл бұрын
I'm reading ancient roman history and most of the "talented" consuls/military tribunes/dictators were really just very rigorous, strict and charismatic leaders who could inspire religious zeal and fighting spirit in their troops. The fact that Cadorna is very much about troop morale more than anything else combined with the fact that he was very religious makes him more Ancient Roman than Italian.
@RKNGL8 жыл бұрын
It's an insult to the Roman Legions to compare this guy to them, let alone mention them in the same sentence.
@moonknightish7 жыл бұрын
Like the romans never had terrible generals and terrible defeats en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arausio
@KingoftheSlavs8 жыл бұрын
This video would have been much better if it had more Isonzo offensives. I'm sure the 13th Isonzo offensive would have broken the Austrians finally.
@TheGreatWar8 жыл бұрын
We are working on more offensives.
@mihovillmisha98853 жыл бұрын
He was fighting against my grandfathers, the Croats an impossible task.0
@wolfehoffmann26974 жыл бұрын
Ah yes. The definition of "A bad workman blames his tools."
@FlagAnthem4 жыл бұрын
Cadorna has literally started the rumor that Italian soldiers were cowards no joke
@AlanDeAnda18 жыл бұрын
I'm only here to watch the Cardona jokes
@velikiradojica8 жыл бұрын
Shout out to Cadorna's daughters for not reproducing. Great job girls!
@rlbadger16988 жыл бұрын
You don't go girls!
@solwen8 жыл бұрын
Maybe they were sent to become nuns because they had reproduced before marriage (and daddy Cadorna was not very pleased about it)
@OrsoBart77348 жыл бұрын
I know it's just a joke, but his son Raffaele Cadorna was a much better man than him. He joined the military like his father, but despite the rise of Fascism in Italy he always remained anti-Fascist and was one of the few people that strongly criticized the war with Ethiopia in 1935-36. Then when the Germans invaded Italy in 1943 his Armored Division managed to stop the enemies from advancing on Rome, and the Germans decided to outflank them rather than suffer further casualties since the rest of the front was scarcely defended. After that he joined the Italian resistance movement and became Supreme Commander of the partisans forces and coordinated the operations that led to the insurgence and liberation of the North Italian cities in 1945 and the capture of hundreds of German and Fascist troops. So as you can see he did pretty good, too bad that his father wasn't like him.
@saddamhussein38498 жыл бұрын
So his son redeemed his family name? That's nice to hear. :)
@mnemonija8 жыл бұрын
I imagine sad reality is that a lot of Italian young women decided to become nuns, on the account that the laws probably did not allow them to even own propety without being married to a man, and all men being dead for some reason.
@leoskini8 жыл бұрын
As an old anti-military italian song goes "Il general Cadorna ha detto alla Regina/ Vuoi vedere Trieste? Te la mando in cartolina" (The general Cadorna said to the Queen / You want Trieste? I'lll get you a postcard)
@podemosurss83167 жыл бұрын
I have one interesting fact about Cadorna: he gave origin to a word used in Argentinian Spanish, "cadorna", which means "low quality", since Italian immigrants in Argentina during the 1920s went saying that he was mad and really low quality. It's still used today. Also, he's probably the only general whose soldiers composed a song dedicated to him saying that he was mad. My beloved "General Cadorna" song (here an English translation): General Cadorna wrote to the Queen: "If you want to see Trieste send you a Postcard!" General Cadorna eats up the Bistec and to the poor soldiers gives us dry chestnuts General Cadorna has become mad, he calls 999 to say he's still a boy General Cadorna has lost his head, he calls 999 to say he pisses on his bed. General Cadorna wrote this sentence: "Get me Gorizia and I'll get you a license!" General Cadorna he eats, he drinks, he sleeps. And the poor soldier goes to war and doesn't come back.
@InSanic138 жыл бұрын
Conrad von Hotzendorf's only equal in battle.
@Poffean4 жыл бұрын
Nonono, don't insult hotzendorf
@mazadancoseben48183 жыл бұрын
He is superior to Hotzendorf By being inferior to him
@urishima8 жыл бұрын
"It's a nice way of saying that I am ugly." Well, at least the guy had a sense of humor.
@alessandromasnada45888 жыл бұрын
As an Italian I give to your pronunciation a 8/10, not bad, but there were some things impossible to hear for me. Keep up the good work!
@TheGreatWar8 жыл бұрын
That means we definitely improved.
@alessandromasnada45888 жыл бұрын
The Great War You surely did.
@mattiagordon94818 жыл бұрын
The Great War that is right to say well done its hard for englisch speakers to learn italian sooooo more like9/10
@Maxjeix018 жыл бұрын
Il Capitalista hey!
@Solaxe8 жыл бұрын
Italian is one of the easiest languages to learn pronounciation
@ISawABear8 жыл бұрын
I don't know man, even the ancient roman generals had the honour to kill themselves when they failed.
@TheGreatWar8 жыл бұрын
One of the Russian generals did that too after Tannenberg, didn't he?
@abu-hureraali45317 жыл бұрын
The Great War Yeah Rennenkapmf was his name.
@badoodadoodadoo76535 жыл бұрын
Kaiser Franz Joseph I *Samsonov did; he was Rennenkampfs rival.
@CauliflaA348 жыл бұрын
"It's a nice way to say I'm ugly"
@karlkarlos35458 жыл бұрын
The first and only time he was ever right about something.
@Dumpster-Baby7 жыл бұрын
Nice profile picture and banner
@EdVarkarion6 жыл бұрын
At least he had a sense of humor
@condorboss33398 жыл бұрын
Any of the great Roman Generals - Caesar, Pompey, Sulla, Marius, Scipio, Marcus Aggripa - would have destroyed Cadorna in battle and had him garotted at their Triumph.
@condorboss33398 жыл бұрын
***** Any of the Roman generals I named would have quickly grasped the significance of modern weapons and made sure their troops were properly armed.They were adaptable. Cadorna was not.
@delvescoa7 жыл бұрын
Even Hannibal with his elephants would have crushed Cadorna's lines
@electricdreams82375 жыл бұрын
@Peter S In that case don't go to the offensive. Duh.
@jeffreywong33 Жыл бұрын
even Valens or Varus will defeat him easily.
@ollie94068 жыл бұрын
Disappointed you never mentioned his staring roll in 'Rumble on the Isonzo'
@TheGreatWar8 жыл бұрын
His most glorious moment.
@joey80628 жыл бұрын
I really do feel sorry for Italian soldiers in both world wars because they did have some good weapons even if they came late in the war but the leadership was just horrible.
@nicolebrown11627 жыл бұрын
joey8062 yep, lions led by donkeys.
@giovanniargentino6335 Жыл бұрын
@@nicolebrown11621
@ThroughTheBarricade8 жыл бұрын
it's an insult to compare him to the generals of ancient Rome.
@lordpinochetuttp38196 жыл бұрын
It's an insult to call him a general
@badoodadoodadoo76535 жыл бұрын
It’s an insult to call “him” a “him”. “He” don’t have the balls to attack anywhere else.
@scottcookson61745 жыл бұрын
ThroughTheBarricade Maybe he meant Publius Quinctilius Varus.
@FranL975 жыл бұрын
Luigi Cadorna: exists Isonzo river: I'm about to end this man's whole career
@ikentspell26598 жыл бұрын
Now do one for Mario Cadorna
@muhamadirfanisamily76632 жыл бұрын
Mario modern
@ygma14608 жыл бұрын
A violent melee battle to death takes place, where only unarmed combat between two men is allowed in a boxing ring. One one corner, we have Cadorna and in the other, von Hotzendorf! Battle starts! Cadorna charges, but trips over his own ears! Von Hotzendorf sees the opportunity and moves in, but gets stuck in the border ropes! Cadorna gets up, sees his opponent undefended and only one punch would be needed to knock him out, so Cadorna backs in the corner and goes into defense! Von Hotzendorf gets up, and declares he made a great defensive victory! Cadorna blames his trainer for giving him wrong shoes! Von Hotzendorf is making plans to move into another ring to fight Cadorna there! The battle continues...
@MakeMeThinkAgain8 жыл бұрын
I had a history professor, of Italian ancestry, who maintained the reason for the Italian army and navy was so to give the Austrians someone they could beat.
@tommasorucci40888 жыл бұрын
MakeMeThinkAgain veeeery funny
@aleksk41517 жыл бұрын
LOOL
@Patavium-pb5cd7 жыл бұрын
MakeMeThinkAgain But Italy won.
@nicolebrown11627 жыл бұрын
Patavium 1866 yeah. Because of Anglo-French support.
@is3t6 жыл бұрын
Will Davey Ahahahaha what an ignorant... UK and french did nothing for helping Italy...
@kdawg24468 жыл бұрын
So Cadorna had an Old Guard state of mind like everybody else before and during the Great War
@TheGreatWar8 жыл бұрын
But he certainly set it to 11.
@VladTevez8 жыл бұрын
_- What is it, General?_ - My Lord, the fleet has moved out of lightspeed. Com Scan has detected an energy field protecting an area of the sixth planet of the Hoth System. The field is strong enough to deflect any bombardment. _- The Rebels are alerted to our presence! Admiral Ozzel came out of lightspeed too close to the system._ - He... he felt surprise was wiser... _- He is as clumsy as he is stupid! General... prepare your troops for a surface attack._ - Yes, my Lord! Next Scene - Lord Vader, the fleet has moved out of lightspeed and we're preparing to... _- You have failed me for the last time, Admiral!_ *_I don't know why, this is the first thing that came in to my mind..._*
@TheGreatWar8 жыл бұрын
It was the Force
@tunch907 жыл бұрын
You are in command now Generale Diaz!
@jaybirdzz7 жыл бұрын
It is amazing what the same troops commanded by LC accomplished in 1917-8 when commanded by Armando Diaz.
@danielegiuntini88444 жыл бұрын
@Peter S The same could be said for Austrians. The only real success they had against Italy was in Caporetto (and in that offensive most important successes were made by germans). In mountain warfare was truly hard to break enemy lines with old tactics, this is why in italian front was so difficult to reach territorial gains for both counterparts.
@FlagAnthem4 жыл бұрын
Cadorna Great-Grandson has sued an historian who DARED to remember Italy what kind of general he was.
@fuzzydunlop79288 жыл бұрын
Thanks to this channel, I've added a lot of new entrants on my "List of Historical Figures I'd Punch in the Face if I Could Travel Back in Time." Cadorna is one of them, sandwiched between Thomas Edison and Aaron Burr.
@solarsceptile59087 жыл бұрын
but is von Hotzendorf on that list?
@arx35164 жыл бұрын
It would be funny to see Cadorna in a trench giving his orders directly to the soldiers.
@connman40088 жыл бұрын
Indy is awesome. I wish he was one my school's history teachers. Great video as always. Been watching since December 2014 but don't comment much. Love how big and better this channel has become. I've learned a lot from this channel and will watch till the war's end.
@DrVictorVasconcelos Жыл бұрын
He's 100% right that morale is the most important thing. The worst equipped wins if the best equipped doesn't want to fight. But you need logistics, materiel, and strategy TO HAVE MORALE. For someone who recognized morale as important, he sure did a lot to destroy it.
@crucial32674 жыл бұрын
Italian General Staff: Okay how about you not attack Isonzo again? Luigi Cardorna: How About I Do *A N Y W A Y*
@nikitamysakov8465 жыл бұрын
Cadorna can be indirectly blamed for fascism success in Italy. The same soldiers he treated as a cattle treat the civilians as a cattle later on.
@Chalupacabra527 жыл бұрын
Love the channel and I'm very excited that you've mentioned Canadians in previous episodes. I was wondering if you've considered talking about Matron-in-Chief Margaret MacDonald or possibly the interesting behind the scenes of war story of Major Harry Colebourn and his bear named Winnie (later inspiration for Winnie The Pooh). Thanks again for this amazing ongoing series! Keep up the fantastic work!
@jamier655512 жыл бұрын
Legend says Cadorna was planning the 13th battle of the Isonzo when he was removed.
@Blankskeen2 жыл бұрын
The man that encapsulates "Paths of Glory" like no one else.
@theastrogamer7108 жыл бұрын
The title is wrong it should be "Luigi Cadorna - The Idiotissimo I WHO DID WHAT IN WW1?" or "Luigi Cadorna - The Incompotetisimo I WHO DID WHAT IN WW1?" but otherwise the video is good.
@espeon917 жыл бұрын
The great general Luigi Cadorna, proud member of the exclusive Hotzendorf club.
@jeffreywong33 Жыл бұрын
luigi Cardona is like the officers in the game Isonzo that only stay back and blow his whistles while everyone are dying around him
@F1NNxsK1LLS8 жыл бұрын
Love this channel! I learn so much more here than I ever did in my soulless note taking date memorizing classes.
@sergeantarchdornan10852 жыл бұрын
Cadorna after witnessing the Italian fail to capture the isonzo river for the *11th* battle: ONE'S MORE, WITH FEELING
@Lukastar18 жыл бұрын
I'm in a college prep high school (junior) and I really liked your conclusion on Luigi Cadorna! conclusions are kind of tricky or rushed for me in historical papers and your reiteration was a great example for me to build off of. anyways I can't thank all you guys enough for making this channel!
@napoleonibonaparte71988 жыл бұрын
Luke Stoerger My conclusion: He is inadequate to be a general and shouldn't be assigned when he has no beforehand experience in actual tactics and warfare. Fails to understand the bigger picture of tactics and is unable to learn from a previous lost battle (like 12 battles on the Isonzo). Idk about you, but he sure is terrible, but sure is great for memes in the comment section! :)
@Lukastar18 жыл бұрын
Yes! the memes are pretty good and i honestly find history memes funny. lol
@mikeface12 жыл бұрын
It’s so amazing that most of The Entente was run by relics. Cadorna and especially Britain’s Douglas Haig. Man I love this channel WWI just amazes me.
@alecadanglao83868 жыл бұрын
Loving the new maps keep it up!!!! 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
@marcbagwell61098 жыл бұрын
Love the series! It's the best I've seen. Well done, sir.
@hakon_brennus_wolff1065 жыл бұрын
If only he had as much skill and prowess as he had middle names.
@tonlito228 жыл бұрын
What's Italian for disaster: Caporetto or Cadorna?
@HaNNibal97smiTH8 жыл бұрын
Caporetto
@YoHoOMirster8 жыл бұрын
Italy JK pls dont kill me
@HaNNibal97smiTH8 жыл бұрын
мisteг Rㅇьloχiдп lol
@podemosurss83167 жыл бұрын
In Italian not, but in Argentinian Spanish "cadorna" means "low quality".
@biobomb935 жыл бұрын
It is Caporetto, we say it for real "è stata una Caporetto" when you mess up really bad.
@royalradish94128 жыл бұрын
Hey Indy and team! Could you make a special episode or an out of the trenches segment about music during WW1? What were the songs of the time that soldiers liked to listen to? What were some of the official military/ government songs and anthems of the various nations? Songs like "it's a long way to Tipperary" come to mind.
@TheGreatWar8 жыл бұрын
We really want to. We have a lot of research from fans actually. But we are standing in front of the topic and don't know what to do with it, honestly. Have to meditate a bit more on it.
@notafox5 жыл бұрын
If I could add something, one of the most inhumane acts made by Luigi Cadorna was the "decimazione" that consisted in choosing randomly one soldier every ten and executing him in front of the other soldiers to promote discipline in the army. Something that was only used in ancient Rome and hadn't been used for thousands of years. Disgraceful.
@tommyboy15098 жыл бұрын
can you do one of these for Mata Hari please?
@TheGreatWar8 жыл бұрын
We already did.
@tommyboy15098 жыл бұрын
The Great War Okay thanks! What about Edith Cavill?
@TheGreatWar8 жыл бұрын
+Tommyboy 150 she has an episode too
@tommyboy15098 жыл бұрын
The Great War Okay, I've checked and maybe you could do Vladimir Lenin
@oddballsok8 жыл бұрын
twat
@podemosurss83167 жыл бұрын
4:33 It would be translated as "frontal strikes and tactical mastery".
@bobthecopywriter8 жыл бұрын
Just turned on auto alerts. Had heard rumors of mysterious KZbin unsubscriptions, but now, with this channel, I've experienced it. You may want to warn other viewers in an upcoming Out Of The Trenches episode. Again, this is a great channel.
@TheGreatWar8 жыл бұрын
Thanks. We will keep an eye open for it.
@vogonford8 жыл бұрын
Come see Luigi Cadorna and watch his 12 greatest hits!
@gunslinger1911a18 жыл бұрын
Except for the fact Indy, that the Roman's accepted their losses realistically and knew the value of their weapons and armor and especially their engineering. Glorious Caesar, when he was defeated in Gaul before he conquered it, stated that it was his fault and until his men no longer suffered, he would suffer with them. Doing so he stopped shaving and properly grooming. He was known to be something of a dandy. Consider this. However, he used engineering to crush the Guals in their final stand, forcing a besieged force against his walls, and breaking a relief force on said walls as well, At the same damn time!
@emw19948 жыл бұрын
Great presentario.! It would be cool if you guys did one of these on Ernest Hemingway. He served on the Italian front and so did a few of his characters, so it would be an interesting companian to this one.
@TheGreatWar8 жыл бұрын
he will get his episode.
@vanguard50083 жыл бұрын
So much for the criticism of General Luigi Cadorna but his son General Raffaele Cadorna Jr. of the Italian resistance against German occupying forces was awarded LEGION OF MERIT during World War 2 and also become Senator.
@dams68298 жыл бұрын
Few weeks before war starts old chief of staf dies and Cadorna comes in place. Coincidence? I think not.
@espritboschero56738 жыл бұрын
FINALLY! Finally the truth about Cadorna! All his stupidity, his inhuman thinking and cruelty on his own men...thank You guys! his post-war depiction as a "war hero" in Italy is still strong today. Very often no honor nor historical justice has been given to the men shot by his firing squads with genuine injustice, and still today the old lies are very strong...many movies have been censored in Italy (and are still censored today), because telling some uncomfortable truths about Cadorna and the regio esercito...so again thank You Indy&team! By the way: Cadorna was a nigthmare, but his protégé Andrea Graziani was said to be even far more worse...both by the italian soldiers and by the writers John Dos Passos and Ernest Hemingway, who were there...
@antongirdeux41486 жыл бұрын
+The Great War Could you make a summarizing video of Armando Diaz? What was the tactics he used, and what was the difference between him and Luigi Cadorna as a supreme commander of the Italian Army?
@MephLeo8 жыл бұрын
A man can try and escape from the judgement of his contemporary peers, but he'll never find shelter from the judgement of time.
@danielemilazzo848 жыл бұрын
OMG CADORNA - grabbing popcorn and watching eagerly!
@mattguellec3 жыл бұрын
*Cadorna appears* Von Hotzendorf : Finally a worthy opponent !
@edoardobartolini30988 жыл бұрын
Actually the Risorgimento ended in 1918.
@darrenrenna8 жыл бұрын
Good video--I have long wondered what Cadorna's background was and what pedigree or past accomplishment kept him in command so long after such a poor performance.
@fobusas8 жыл бұрын
What would have happened if Italy joined the Central Powers? I imagine Autria-Hungary would have a lot easier time dealing with Russia, denied British passage to Dardanelles, put pressure on the France down south. Would that have been enough to allow Germans to knock France out?
@danielemilazzo848 жыл бұрын
Two things would have happened: an italo-french front in which Cadorna and von Hotzendorf would have fought together - and a drastic shortage of supplies that would have run Italy off the war in 7-8 months of war or so, as all the coal, food, and loaned money come from France, UK and US.
@fobusas8 жыл бұрын
Daniele Milazzo Hm, second thing sounds like "This war will be over by Christmas" :)
@AbokaseeRed8 жыл бұрын
Given Cadorna would be running the show in the Alps, the French could probably hold the whole front with an old bronze cannon and a rusty chauchat.
@danielemilazzo848 жыл бұрын
Maybe in the early stages of war, and indirectly; France had 7 division on the Alps, and moved them north all of them to counter the German advance in the first days of war. Italian neutrality undoubtely benefited France.
@chainedoj8 жыл бұрын
Funny how Napoleon III had good intuition. "We help you Resorgimento (Italian unification) but you give us Savoy and Nice areas because we don't trust a united Italy having control over the Alps.
@kyledunn68538 жыл бұрын
To me Cadorna was like Mussolini and Hitler wrapped into one man blaming others for his short comings minus the anti Semitic retic and terrible military tactics just to have power for his delusions of grandeur.
@trajan755 жыл бұрын
But he opposed Mussolini and his son was anti Fascist. My grandfather fought in WWI I. They were Sicilian sulphur miners and were as tough as nails, but I got the impression that Cardona didn't like his men despite his emphasis on morale.
@EdVarkarion6 жыл бұрын
"it's a nice way of saying I am ugly" for all of Cadorna's faults at least he had a sense of humor.
@cinder5442 жыл бұрын
Cadorna understood that high moral among the troop's was very important, then instituted disciplinary beating (and executions) to get it.
@butchmaidment7 жыл бұрын
Would be really interesting to see you do one of these videos on Adrian Carton de Wiart. His story is fascinating: loved the war; multiple potentially fatal wounds; eye patch; bit off his own fingers; one of the ultimate British soldiers. His story ought to be more widely known.
@aggonymephisto69638 жыл бұрын
Cardorna's Twelve Greatest Hits
@Iterman8 жыл бұрын
Hello Indiana "Indy" Neidell, I hope I got it right. And thank you for a very interesting series of talks.
@kevinbyrne45387 жыл бұрын
General Cadorna was actually an Austrian general who was fighting on the wrong side. He was holding the map upside-down.
@onemileperhour8 жыл бұрын
Hello The Great War crew. I have a question about letters that officers and soldiers wrote. You often say, "so-and-so wrote such-and-such to 'x' family member," and I wonder how such a personal note got in the hands of historians. Do members of the writer's family donate the letters? Maybe the various powers have protocols for recording all messages sent by their armies? Thanks, and keep up the great production. I really like the high-quality animated maps that have been showing up lately.
@jaybirdzz7 жыл бұрын
I have considered the comments made in response to my earlier comment. I specifically said that the troops commanded by A. Diaz in 1917-1918 accomplished much. Diaz waited until he was certain of victory in the battle of V.V., but can a WW1 General be criticized for this? While the condition of the Astro-Hungarian army in 11-18 was bad, this was not the case in 6-18. The 2nd battle of the Piave river was fought during June, and was viewed as an attempt to drive Italy from the war. The Italian troops held despite the fact that part of the Astro-Hungarian army was commanded by S. Boroevic-The Lion of The Isonzo. While Diaz might be denied credit for the victory at V.V. by some, who site the condition of the Astro-Hungarian army, he cannot be denied credit for the victory at the Piave river.
@TomSmith-li5se4 жыл бұрын
He was one of the best generals of ww1 no doubt about it.
@NosyFella8 жыл бұрын
Sorry if this has been asked before, but when it is all over will you be doing anything on the economic reconstruction of Europe and the Peace Conference/Versailles?
@asd36f7 жыл бұрын
7:05 - That's a motley looking collection of artillery.
@sammackinnon51228 жыл бұрын
Hey Indy, I love your show! I was just wondering if you would do a ww2 version when the time came. I know it takes a lot of time and money, but I just love your show so much! :)
when ever i hear cadorna i can't help but want to face palm
@hoegild18 жыл бұрын
amazing how you can keep the high quality of this channel week after week!! Could you please explain, how Denmark stayed neutral?
@gabrielfrancisco30558 жыл бұрын
Hi Indy, could you make a video telling the story of the two Brazilian princes, Dom Luis Maria and Dom Antonio Gastão who fought in the First World War ? source: www.google.com.br/amp/oglobo.globo.com/sociedade/historia/filhos-de-princesa-isabel-nobres-brasileiros-participaram-da-primeira-guerra-mundial-13308833%3fversao=amp
@TheGreatWar8 жыл бұрын
We will have a Brasil special in October. Will try to include them.
@gabrielfrancisco30558 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, the Brazilian nation is grateful.
@mattiagordon94818 жыл бұрын
The Great War wow awsome are you planing to do all nations that helped in ww1?
@BigJayAll8 жыл бұрын
WHAAAAAAAAA. Now I'm impressed. Will you guys talk about our marvelous naval engagement in the end of 1918?