I FAILED at buying a cheap MacBook (this thing is a disaster!)

[@lukemiani]

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[@khaz606]

Contact your bank and ask for a chargeback, as Item not as described. It's a logic board issue, not IO.

[@TrueNoob17]

turn your 2019 macbook air into a m1 macbook air then lol

[@TrueNoob17]

just like you did with your imac and wii

[@papayuki3590]

try contacting rossmenn repairs on this as i am sure he would love to see why this board is fed up

[@Omer-es7wo]

hi luke. send it to me. i need it for app development.

[@rhiantaylor3446]

The picture is part of the description so, unless they explicitly said they were using a stock photo, they haven't sent you what you bought. Ebay usually comes down on the side of the buyer in any dispute, I am told.

[@darwiniandude]

Yeah I'd try to return it.

[@justsomeguy5103]

I concurr. Had a similar issue. The seller agreed to refund a sum for the difference between the model pictured and the one I received.

[@daniyalkhizar]

But eBay would also say that he didn’t read the description. They still take the side of the buyer though

[@daniyalkhizar]

@@AyrisX86 oh no! Did eBay make you pay the money? I don’t think eBay would let Luke return it because he’s had it for months already

[@daniyalkhizar]

@@AyrisX86 that’s sad 😔, Ebay shouldn’t listen to the buyer THAT much to take money away from the seller for no reason. The tracking number even said that the package was delivered.

[@cindykhoh434]

I use my base model M1 MacBook Air daily as a professional machine and despite having 5 desktops and about a dozen safari tabs opened in different windows including KZbin, the CPU us usually always sitting at near idle with temps never going above 35c. I'm still amazed! great video, it really shows how underrated the M1 MacBook Air really is and also shows how sh*tty the intel models were just a couple years ago!

[@Argameus]

The M1 Air is not underrated at all, what are you talking about?

[@xalataf3365]

How’s RAM usage? 8GB’s been quite a pain on my M1

[@tsalVlog]

@@Argameus If you are only watching on apple-friendly channels, it's not underrated. If you watch gaming / other intel-centric channels, you'll see a lot of people slamming the M1 because it's ARM. It's also a good way to tell someone is an idiot that doesn't know what they're talking about, so I guess it's an easy way to spot bad channels? I guess?

[@RbAgsts718]

I was looking at it. It’s kind of small. Used to a bigger screen.

[@LucienSabre]

@@RbAgsts718 ​ Small? The MacBook Air M1’s screen has a native 2560×1600 resolution. For a _non-gaming_ laptop, that’s huge.

[@flamingkillermc2806]

1 bad deal, but he has like 100 good deals 😂

[@ThatOnePaulGuy]

A thousand nos for every yes! Or a thousand yeses for every no, I suppose oops

[@torstenmadsvin1153]

Exactly haha and he still had to make a 10 minute video whining and moaning on KZbin

[@ifiwantyoutofeel]

Always greedy

[@MacinMindSoftware]

Although as others have pointed out, that's atypically bad performance and heat for that model, I enjoyed your reactions. Things are so good now. My MBP M1 Pro uses about 4-5 watts and runs lower than body temperature to play KZbin videos in Safari.

[@steveoc64]

I got this exact model back in 2019 just to do a coding presentation at a conference. Paid for itself in 1 trip. Still use it daily as an after-work hacking machine, with just a terminal, text editor and compiler As long as it's not running any other junk, it's still a really snappy and useful machine for coding and debugging. It actually flies, and runs cool and quiet. God bless it's little dual core processor, 8gb ram and 128g SSD. It's a lovely laptop, and worth keeping.

[@thrallfaec6130]

This reminds me of the time when I got my M1 MacBook Air.It popped up for equivalent of around $567 US (2600 Polish Zloty to be exact).It was sold as is, un tested since they couldn't create an account to test it for whatever reason.Took a shot in the dark and bought it.Turned out to have a corrupted macOS installation that refused to create an account and liquid damaged keyboard (just sticky keys, everything worked fine).I was awed when it activated and reinstalled the OS and eventually got me into the desktop.8GB of RAM, 256 SSD and 39 cycles on the battery, all inside a laptop that looked to be used very little.

[@rocheuro]

ja tez myslalem o Air ale jednak wziąłem Mini. M1. - mega zadowolony chociaz ciekawi mnie ekran w Air.

[@a.olareks3653]

That’s crazy, I bought a MacBook Air 2015 from them, it came without the changing adapter had to contact them for it and they shipped it right away, I’ll say there packaging and listing team needs a lot of work to do, but unlike other sellers on eBay, they respond to inbox fast!

[@tsjmcgrath]

Ah. I can relate. I have an early 2020 Intel MacBook Air provided by my workplace, and an M1 MacBook Air for personal use. My job often involves using InDesign or even Premiere Pro. It is… painful. Even video calling runs really badly - which is critical to my day to day work. The Intel Airs of that generation are genuinely atrocious, yet I’m constantly amazed by how much my M1 can do.

[@preethaml2614]

Dude m1 didn’t exist in 2019 😂

[@awii.neocities]

@@preethaml2614 Read it again. they said they have an early 2020 macbook air

[@bmwloco]

Looks like a working mac, none the less. It's worth something.

[@theatremusician]

It said very clearly in the description that it's a 2019 MBA. You didn't read it before you bought it?

[@graphicsgod]

He said in the video the picture was wrong, and he was hoping the seller got the type of MacBook wrong.. He was hoping on an M1 Air.

[@theatremusician]

@@graphicsgod relying on "hope" on eBay auctions is foolhardy at best.

[@CeasarBergonia]

The best way to get deals on Mac is online Apple refurbished or open box. Purchased a M2 MBA base as a Open box for $850. Previous owner must have bought and return. It still had 11 mths, 3 weeks on its base Apple care.

[@Kay_Emm_]

I currently have a bid in for a 2016 15” MBP. I’m gonna ‘hackintosh’ Ventura on it and use it as my daily. It’ll be my first Mac so I’m buckling in for an adventure!

[@kevino8739]

I've bought from them before and they've had a number of laptops mislabeled. I usually tell them if I notice something off just because they are pretty honest sellers.

[@Epicgamer_Mac]

Fuckdammit, this is the first time I’ve ever seen Luke get a bad deal!

[@DerekDavis213]

Even expensive MacBooks can be a disaster: -unable to run Windows properly -not good for gaming -no upgrades or repairs -tiny 'chicklet' keyboard -no USB A ports

[@alevalleys]

Before the M1 MacBook Air came out, all MacBook Airs were trash. I was planning since 3 years buying a MacBook, and the only valid option that I could see at the time, was buying a MacBook Pro. Now OBVIOUSLY I have the M1 MacBook Air. Thanks god I started hearing things about the M1 months before. So happy now. Also sorry for you Luke, that MacBook were a crime.

[@casperes0912]

Listing: 2019 MacBook Air Luke: Oh no! It's a 2019!

[@techwitht9504]

6:37 I’ve got to agree with this point here. I have the 2019 model as well with the latest Mac OS. Daily tasks feel sluggish & slow (especially multitasking whilst using Chrome) and it gets hot quickly. This is why I now resort to my M1 Imac for productivity. Would not recommend this laptop in 2022!

[@chumbusthings]

- Buys broken 2019 Intel MBA - Complains About Buying broken Intel MBA Chad

[@garryhall9660]

Wow and your alarm bells did not ring when the picture did not match the descripion?

[@peat381low8]

I had the 2018 MacBook Air I bought in 2019. It was amazing. It did have constant slow downs when running zoom and another memory hungry app. I lended it to a friend in the Philippines and it still works perfectly.

[@georgeh6856]

The eBay listing had the wrong model in the photo for this MacBook. That should allow you to return it. False advertising.

[@LeeStewart]

You could just sell the display. The most expensive component on the MacBook. It's better than admitting defeat and giving up. I had thermal issues with my 2019 16-inch MacBook Pro. Opening up one application and the fans would spin very loud. Hence why I sold it for an M1.

[@sam_cs_49er]

The way to tell if MacBook with M1 chip vs Intel chip from 2016-19 is the direction pad design. The 2016-19 have the left and right buttons in full size, while the m1 has left and right buttons similar to pre-2015 MacBooks

[@zsamps]

The early 2020 has the same keyboard as the M1 and it's intel

[@sam_cs_49er]

@@zsamps same with the 2019 16 inch Intel MacBook Pro and 2020 Intel MacBook Pro

[@bradavon]

Thousands of people use laptops that overheat. Assuming it doesn't shutdown of course, you could absolutely sell it with a faulty USB port. The only thing actually wrong with it is the single port. Apple fans all seem to forget thousands of people only have a few hundred bucks to spend and will make do.

[@Sez_Sonic]

While I do like the new M-Series MacBooks, I'm not really a laptop user so I decided to go for a 2017 MacBook Pro as an on-the-go device. And honestly so far it's served me very well! It can handle light web browsing while messaging people without even breaking a sweat!

[@bdavali4342]

I'm watching this video on a 2015 Macbook Air and it's running 34°C. There's got to be something else very wrong with yours, Luke!

[@crystalthewolf8945]

Happy I didn't "upgrade" to one of these from my 2017 MacBook Pro, I'll definitely continue to use that instead

[@jacobperez8921]

In 2022 nobody should be buying pre-M series Macs. Apple silicon is a night and day difference versus intel chips.

[@zsharpmnr]

I love your videos! Thank you so much for the great content!! I never thought that you'd *ever* manage to get a bad deal on a MacBook... 😬😬😬

[@bobberardino9760]

I would love to see you get a 12” MacBook and convert it to M1 Apple Silicon.

[@Abel_DG]

That won’t be possible

[@AvWijk85]

lol

[@corbinthornbury1694]

Not possible

[@eboymario]

Not possible

[@fuelvolts]

Hey Luke, I own this exact laptop and I don't have nearly the throttling/speed issues that you do. On Ventura. I wonder if there's another issue with yours that is causing it pin/heat up? Possible the fan is clogged? It's no M1, for sure, but it's a decent laptop for normal Office apps/media viewing.

[@realroyale6991]

It's pretty misleading since he's screen recording which definitely would use a fair amount of CPU

[@cjmhall]

Same here. Mine is moderately fast and has never gotten hot. I have never heard the fan running in the 3 years I’ve owned it.

[@olivierpericat9224]

Maybe it's related to the broken logic board / USB port. This logic board is sick obviously.

[@Charted]

7:27 this would literally be unacceptable even on the Windows side of things

[@drakata27]

I own an M1 base Air and im still amazed how light, fast and efficient it is. I am a Computer Science student and for me it is the best laptop given the value it provides. I never thought I would say this about MacBook Air because the old intel were overpriced trash and I have always been windows user

[@jameslenney]

Unlucky, Luke. It’s a nice problem to have: “I invariably get good deals but I finally got a dud”.

[@reiyv139]

A few weeks ago, I suddenly had high cpu activity when watching youtube videos on my older intel macbook pro. Turned out the culprit was that damn new 'ambient mode' on youtube. Aftern turning this off, everything went back to normal.

[@jbar_85]

I’ve never heard of Ambient Mode on KZbin. I’ll have to check that out.

[@CarlosStorms]

Luke, I think it is about time you begin learning board repairs, it is unavoidable!

[@ahmedkamal3977]

HEYYYYYYYYY LUUUUUKEEEE You can get the entire top case replaced (Keyboard, battery ect.) for free under the quality assurance program. If they find issues with the logic board they usually replace that as well, which is what happened with me.

[@dirtymusicassette]

i had that one, on Catalina it was pushing 80 Safari tabs (+3 KZbin tabs). Suffering? Of course. But never stopped working. Now I'm on M1 Pro and seems limitless.

[@Darthwriter]

I have a couple customers with this 2019 Air and they don't throttle like that at all. I feel like there may be something else wrong with it. Thanks for the vid though.

[@mtunayucer]

Ye thats kinda insane. I have far less powerful devices that dont use cpu that hard while watching youtube videos.

[@siriax1691]

I vote you do a short where you take a chainsaw to this laptop. All while a buddy sensually plays the Bakers Street chorus on a saxophone.

[@MathewSchaffer]

Idea for content: See if this laptop has crash detection. What do you have to lose?

[@jamonleecarter8698]

Hey, since you blew it, want to donate it for my college? Need a laptop asap for my spring semester

[@davidkachel]

Hmmmm, I own that exact Macbook Air. I don't even want to say what I paid for it, but... !! I have decided to ditch Apple products after 30 loyal years. But, they have stopped being loyal to me, so I returned the favor.

[@bibasik7]

The 2019 MacBook Air is so bad that it's SLOWER than a 2015 MacBook Air with a Core i7. What a piece of junk!

[@DoRC]

Why didn't you just return it. If the image didn't match what you got the seller would have been forced to take a return no matter what their policy is.

[@ultraviolettp3446]

Because you are the ONLY trustworthy Fruit Fly on youtube that consistently gives honest feedback on Fruit products, I feel for you with this purchase. You didn't even have to make this video, but because you are honest, you did which increases your cred with me. I concur that if this is not what you were led to believe in the description as the computer you were buying, I'd contest the purchase. I can't stand when the description does not match the product delivered. Kudos to you for remaining the only source of Fruit company content that can be believed. I hope you get some money back if you contest this product. Because of your videos I have recommended a Macbook air M1 to a friend who has a 2011 Macbook pro. I too will be buying such a M1 computer in the future because it marks a change in the Fruit company from intentionally building stuff that they knew was bad to shifting toward efficiency in power. Keep up the great work.

[@dstinnettmusic]

You can almost certainly get your money back. You got a different product than what you ordered.

[@ColinsCity]

Watching this on my 2015 15" MacBook Pro and seeing how diabolical the 2019 MacBook Air is, is quite shocking honestly, I would have thought it would be better than this. I used to always stay away from the MacBook Air's because I knew they were bad but it's good to know the M1 and M2 MacBook Air's are much better these days. I have always wanted a Gold MacBook haha

[@matthewdavisson]

I never buy anything that states “sold as is” and “returns not accepted “.

[@tomburke5311]

Interesting video - I felt your pain. However, I am a bit puzzled as to why you thought it would be an M1 MB Air. I get that the photo is wrong (it's an M1 machine), but I think the description is correct, so actually haven't they sent you what they described? On the reliability front, I agree with you that things have improved enormously. I've stopped buying Apple Care+. My household insurance will cover accidental damage and theft, and statutory protection will give me some cover in the case of a systemic failure.

[@miloshroom1]

watch the video again. he says the seller has a history of mislabeling things so he thought that maybe the title was wrong.

[@dawnpoint]

Ha. I use a 2020 Intel MBA for work and own an M1 MBA and it's not even a comparison. Every day I long for 5pm when I can get back on my M1 machine.

[@JamesTenniswood]

I just got rid of mine, £400 in the UK. Thank God it really wasn't a good machine. The m1 version is night and day

[@mahay155]

1 tab on intel air 100 degrees vs my M1 Air 28 degrees without fan 😂

[@jocorn52]

You should send it to @tronixfix to see if he can fix the logic board.

[@jesse.rodriguez]

Yes! Collab? @tronicsfix

[@madbradfreeman]

Thanks for sharing your failures as well as successes! Refreshing!

[@zsamps]

One member of my family has this exact same laptop, but in rose gold, and yeah, it's an absolute *dumpster fire* compared to another family member's M1 MacBook Air. It's shocking because they look nearly identical on the exterior. However, the performance, battery life (especially), and quietness of the M1 are about 100x better than the 2019s. The 2019 MBA is about 1/3 as quick compared to my 2014 ThinkPad T-series, and it's just as loud as the ThinkPad. it is surprising that two identical-looking computers can be so drastically different from each other.

[@christianadamo]

my 2020 Intel MacBook Air had the fan on just while watching this video😂

[@tuckerdc0744]

measuring this with my 2008 MacBook pro that I'm using right now my cpu is running cooler and faster to load youtube than a 2019 MacBook air? that just doesn't make sense

[@xxslaygirllllxx6559]

i used to have a 2019 macbook air and the bottom would like get so hot

[@kv3513]

haha felt this one. Typing this on my insanely slow dual core i5 mbp 2017. Got a quad core i7 iMac from 2013 and it destroys this MacBook. Even mij late 2015 mba 11 inch i5 feels faster. Paid 1600 euros for this one. Was too stupid at that time so it is the worst price to value product I have ever bought

[@maertenerwin1119]

You can sell it for part like the screen and top/bottom case

[@fmoll8748]

Video starts here, you're welcome 3:12

[@gamersinghking4167]

Oh dear. A chromebook is faster than that thing.

[@robsquared2]

Time to fill the defective port with epoxy.

[@voljume]

You should visit Louis Rossmann's new repairshop to get this fixed 😅

[@Spencerwarner71]

My advice…. Cut your loses in half buy reselling it back on eBay for $200 as it is stating a working MacBook Air with the usb fault you mentioned by my experience using eBay you should at least get half your money back, better than being stuck with a “”working laptop”” just sitting there collecting dust

[@jaketaylor9961]

Get the butterfly keyboard replaced and apple will replace the logic board for free. My 2017 FN Keys MBP had one of its USB C ports die and they are soldered to the logic board. I didn't even mention it and didn't expect them to fix it, but hey they did!

[@Jbscddnz]

I bought one of these pieces of junk at full retail price in January 2020. Jump to December 2020, something 10x faster that doesn’t go past 30 deg C

[@deanwaters8792]

I'd buy this with the broken board as a project to try and fix the board it's self rather than replacing it. If you do plan on selling it please post something.

[@diesel1024]

What a terrible laptop. I mean I seriously have 200 safari tabs open on my 15" Mid 2012 Unibody and my fan isn't even spinning, the MacBook Pro is warm to the touch at the hinge, but other than that I have zero issues having all those tabs open.

[@keithgriswold5898]

If it was listed as a 2019, pre M1, why would he expect it to be an M1? Yeah the picture is of an M1 but if I see a brand new car posted as a 2005 model why would I expect it to be a brand new car

[@MultiTelan]

Not even just that one. I went from an early 20 air to a late 20 air. Same result. From TJmax just starting up to a computer that has never exceeded 45 degrees in a mid generation refresh just because of M1.

[@redphone1438]

Maybe you can replace the faulty io connector, and then you can actually fix that USB C port.

[@FrancoGuerzoni]

I had one of this for a year and I agree it’s terrible, but this unit in particular is performing extremely poorly. Mine did throttle like crazy under mid to heavy loads, but never on a single Safari tab, yours has something very wrong with the cooling system.

[@jesusangelaguinaga4044]

O...M...G...I d always seen you as a very lucky guy. Well. It happens. The only ones who dont fail are those who do nothing. Keep on the good work. Deep hug.

[@bradavon]

Under 400 bucks for a MacBook. What did you expect? I don't get the complaint.

[@franci2a]

“One Safari tab, one KZbin video at 1080p” sounds like my Surface Laptop 3, sometimes that laptop too starts with fans going wild on basic tasks for no reason

[@skip741x3]

the dude wasnt even watching it in 1080p let alone 4k...it was playing at the 480p setting but had no assist from HW decoding, everything likely done on the cpu... with HW decoding, it wouldnt of hit more than 3-5% cpu

[@christiantan5341]

I had to use this for CAD at school (it sucked)

[@christiantan5341]

I actually got a burn from touching it

[@EnzoBeth]

as a 2019 mba owner I think its a fine laptop (got it for free in 2020 during quarantine thanks to my school) and as butterfly keyboard lover its the only MacBook I like typing on

[@dimakonstanta1868]

it is great laptop for basic stuff, all of the problems in this video because Luke record screen on QuickTime while using Mac

[@julesslegers7063]

Maybe use it as a storage server if not able to sell at all?

[@traderjohann3587]

What are you planning on doing with it?

[@bub7391]

I had a 2018 MacBook Air (practically the same one) and have had a bad experience with it, now I have the M1 MBA and am very pleased by how it performs. The second I saw the thumbnail I already knew it was bad.

[@iFixJapan]

I bought 2019, finally i sold it again, i can't use to edit my video, got hot very quick

[@Katoptrys]

I watched this on a 2015 13" Macbook Pro. Which is an ancient dual-core 5th gen equipped machine. And it's somehow a far better experience than that Air

[@RobotSeaMonkey]

if you dont have a use for it maybe you could turn it into some kind of frankenstein desktop pc? hear me out, stick it to a a massive passive heatsink and show us some benchmarks, i've been looking on youtube for a video like this but no one seems to be interested in a passively cooled desktop pc... but regarding the video i totally agree, at the moment i own a 15" macbook pro from 2018 with a 7th generation i7 and 32 gb of ram, and it's not perfect, it kinda has the same issues with overheating and the butterfly keyboard. in my case , strangely , the butterfly is okay as far as the system is not on heavy load, it seems to double register keys only when it's under heavy load. But the overheating issue is still present, but im willing to forgive because even though it overheats the battery life is better compared to my dell precision 5520, which was a laptop i cherished but sadly i had to sell, sometimes i kinda have regrets when i look at my macbook, thinking about switching to a thinkpad in the future. its kinda sad because it's a beautiful device but beauty is not enough when it comes to laptops, and i cant afford an m1 so my only option is a thinkpad.

[@wertywerrtyson5529]

I have this MacBook and it is in fact my best MacBook so seeing you grilling it makes me feel pretty bad. You are not wrong though. It doesn’t feel any faster than my 2013 Air or even my 2010 MacBook although it does have a better screen. Had I known better I wouldn’t have bought it last year for 600 bucks but all I saw was it was so much cheaper than any other MacBook that new at the time. It struggles to play 2D games in windows boot camp. It did come with a barely used battery though and for watching KZbin it actually works fine.

[@SPTSuperSprinter156]

I have an i5 MBA from 2015 that performs better than this, and doesn't generate much heat unless I push it. What a disappointment this one is!

[@matteodigiorgio9887]

My girlfriend has this macbook air: she works as a designer and she has no problem with the entire adobe suite so maybe for this tasks it can be not that bad

[@ferrarishine9999]

You should go to Louis Rossmanns shop and learn board level repair! Would be a cool way to showcase his free workspace which is quite cool.

[@benjigruber9292]

I spent 490 (local cash) for my base model m1 macbook air. I was suspicious of the cheap price, but I had apple run a diagnostic in store before I paid. So 490 all in for an m1 compared to 400+tax/shipping for that basket case

[@JKNProductions]

I wonder what the oldest Mac is that is still usable/better than this MacBook Air

[@TimurTripp2]

The high CPU usage and temps were likely due to the fact that you were also recording the screen, which is a task that requires video encoding to happen in the background. Under normal circumstances it wouldn’t be that high from playing a KZbin video, even on a dual-core.

[@UKAbandonedMineExplores]

I'd just use it with a hub, problem solved. Wow, how can a 3 year old Mac perform that bad? I have a 13 year old imac that watches youtube, no issues?

[@BreceLuu]

Looks like a thanksgiving give-away. I'm so happy that I've got a good deal for my MBP 16 M1 Pro with 32GB. Coming from a MBP 15 2013, this upgrade has been a game changer for me and it was worth the wait. I'm glad Apple ditched the inefficient Intel CPUs.

[@nikopol1009]

You can send this Macbook Air to TronicsFix so he can do a video repairing the port. Orrrrr you can do a video in the one you try to replace by yourself and I know you don't have the equipment.

[@SpiritualWorks2024]

ill take that laptop if u want cuz i need one, and idc if the charging port doesn't work like no joke i'm being serious

[@koulliskarios2481]

your were also screen recording that's why it was thermal throttling with just a safari tap open ...

[@diegodefossez6340]

Omg last week I bought a second hand MBA 2019 from eBay as my first Mac ever ($390+shipping, 16/256) and now I see this. Hopes came down fast af

[@pedrothevenard]

While a 15" macbook pro 2015 with dual graphics would be a much better buy for that money, the computer in the video is clearly broken, the temps should be bad on high workload, but it should be cool and quiet for basic tasks like the one on the video, so don't worry too much, unless you bought it for video editing or something like that, in that case return it or sell it and get a couple hundred more for an used m1 air or get a 2015 dual graphics.