Why is Latin worth learning and using?

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Luke Smith

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@marusdod3685
@marusdod3685 4 жыл бұрын
i speak a forked version of Latin that uses sytemd called portuguese
@marusdod3685
@marusdod3685 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexvig2369 fuck i made this comment 8 moths ago
@gustavomariz7769
@gustavomariz7769 3 жыл бұрын
I speak a fork of original portuguese called brazilian portuguese which is way more bloated than its original
@marusdod3685
@marusdod3685 3 жыл бұрын
@@gustavomariz7769 >brazilian Sorry you have to go back
@nubilate
@nubilate 3 жыл бұрын
i am using another fork of latin known as spanish but it’s so bloated due to the many global collaborators that I might as well try portuguese
@wesleyrm
@wesleyrm 3 жыл бұрын
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
@ipproductions
@ipproductions 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, such a smart dude. I bet he uses Arch...
@jalepezo
@jalepezo 5 жыл бұрын
amirite
@u3u36
@u3u36 4 жыл бұрын
@@jalepezo lul
@paulmaartin
@paulmaartin 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if he's single
@reveluv8851
@reveluv8851 3 жыл бұрын
He uses artix
@daveshouldaine2520
@daveshouldaine2520 3 жыл бұрын
he is smarter, he uses artix
@Gordin508
@Gordin508 5 жыл бұрын
Latin is the C of human languages
@eughenes95
@eughenes95 5 жыл бұрын
@@harpyproductions6771 and indo-european is binary
@salvatoreshiggerino6810
@salvatoreshiggerino6810 5 жыл бұрын
It's obviously the Lisp of human languages. C is Greek.
@salvatoreshiggerino6810
@salvatoreshiggerino6810 5 жыл бұрын
@Hans-Hermann Hoppe You have a point, given that Greek and Lisp predate Latin and C respectively. And Greek is certainly more fluid and less rigid than Latin. On the other hand, what about the ML family for Latin? Standard ML, OCaml, etc.are classical Latin and Haskell is medieval or Church Latin.
@Greymerk
@Greymerk 5 жыл бұрын
And I suppose english is javascript.
@StarEclipse506
@StarEclipse506 5 жыл бұрын
@@Architector_4 I think it's more like body language is binary and shouts/gestures are asm
@tczimmerman
@tczimmerman 5 жыл бұрын
**crack** **sip** Yup, Latin... now that was a good language
@curtprasky3440
@curtprasky3440 5 жыл бұрын
Carpe cervisia!
@curtprasky3440
@curtprasky3440 5 жыл бұрын
So it's been a while and no one has called me out on my grammatical error. At this point, I am going to claim it was deliberate to see if it would elicit some criticism rather than make the excuse that it has been over 40 years since my last High School Latin course. That is true enough, but still, I really shoulda caught it before I hit . The correct syntax is "Carpe cersiam!"
@DavidPerez-mr3cs
@DavidPerez-mr3cs 4 жыл бұрын
@Suffer No Fools Seize the beer
@bhutchin1996
@bhutchin1996 3 жыл бұрын
Carpe cerevisiam = Seize the beer. Spanish *cerveza* and Portuguese *cerveja*
@MrJackojc90
@MrJackojc90 5 жыл бұрын
English is bloat.
@apenasmeucanal5984
@apenasmeucanal5984 5 жыл бұрын
Analytical languages are where it is at
@Randomness65535
@Randomness65535 5 жыл бұрын
As a non-native speaker, English has some elegant parts to it, particularly the many ways you can navigate in time, but it's definitely bloated dialect-wise, synonym-wise and has the most retarded orthography hands down.
@abdullahabd7677
@abdullahabd7677 5 жыл бұрын
Grunting is efficient.
@Randomness65535
@Randomness65535 5 жыл бұрын
@@user-hufgfdsddssdfdsdsdsdd2 We have a global lingua franca that has the (probably) unique feature of absolutely no consistency in the way the words are pronounced and the writing system not helping that at all. I don't have the autism to love or hate a language but comparing them and talking a out pros and cons is fun.
@MrVecheater
@MrVecheater 5 жыл бұрын
English is python American English is PHP
@MrHatoi
@MrHatoi 5 жыл бұрын
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as English, is in fact, Latin/English, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Latin plus English. English is not a language unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Latin system made useful by the Latin alphabet, roots and vital lingual components comprising a full language as defined by Luke Smith.
@sjuns5159
@sjuns5159 5 жыл бұрын
What even... ??¿¿?!?!?!¡?!!
@verl0000
@verl0000 5 жыл бұрын
@@sjuns5159 it's poking fun at 'GNU/Linux'
@chelonianegghead274
@chelonianegghead274 5 жыл бұрын
Best. Comment. Ever.
@pmz558
@pmz558 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@gayusschwulius8490
@gayusschwulius8490 4 жыл бұрын
This made me audibly kek
@sessonid5082
@sessonid5082 5 жыл бұрын
Luke please stop making me want to learn stuff I don’t have time to learn lmao
@sessonid5082
@sessonid5082 5 жыл бұрын
Jonas this is true. I study a lot of subjects tho to the point that it consumes my life and have to remind myself that there's more to life than just learnings things.
@sessonid5082
@sessonid5082 5 жыл бұрын
TEHGOVERNAT0R very good way to put it. Often times I never get around to producing things bc I wanna just keep learning.
@hexagonist23
@hexagonist23 4 жыл бұрын
The like count is 256 but I don't want to ruin it...
@bjarnestronstrup9122
@bjarnestronstrup9122 3 жыл бұрын
@@sessonid5082 In Unix terms, you are in a blocked state.
@chintumoghe6134
@chintumoghe6134 4 жыл бұрын
Aa an Indian, I learnt sanskrit on my own a while ago. Amazing language. It has descendant languages everywhere in the indian subcontinent. I can pretty much understand 15~18 indian languages because of it. What kinda shocks me is how methodical sanskrit was. It's surprisingly modular. I mean it in a sense of clarity of thought, there is no room for ambiguity in it from the beginning. It's almost like coding/programming.
@waterquarks675
@waterquarks675 4 жыл бұрын
What learning resources did you use?
@bhutchin1996
@bhutchin1996 3 жыл бұрын
Mama nama _____ asti, I think that's right.
@Stephen-uz8dm
@Stephen-uz8dm 2 жыл бұрын
Based indoeuropean
@lindboknifeandtool
@lindboknifeandtool 2 жыл бұрын
Learning German showed me how limited English is. Especially for talking about feelings.
@satouhikou1103
@satouhikou1103 2 жыл бұрын
Good morning dear sir or madam. May I kindly ask you to not to redeem.
@robertsmith2300
@robertsmith2300 5 жыл бұрын
Latin speakers have the widest skull circumference
@wiredbeats9058
@wiredbeats9058 5 жыл бұрын
Circumspectabant
@scriba5777
@scriba5777 5 жыл бұрын
they must have tumors
@lauramartins5953
@lauramartins5953 4 жыл бұрын
Source? And does that apply to the people who speak a Latin based language?
@bjarnestronstrup9122
@bjarnestronstrup9122 3 жыл бұрын
So basically neanderthals ?
@RexGalilae
@RexGalilae 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, look at Luke Ranieri. Massive brain shell right there
@baldpolnareff7224
@baldpolnareff7224 4 жыл бұрын
Being Italian, I've been taught Latin in high school. I haven't used it in years and it would take me a few days of practice to start translating Latin effortlessly once again, but I can tell for sure that studying Latin wasn't just about learning the language itself, it's been incredibly useful because its structure makes so much sense... it's useful for developing logical thinking imho. I didn't like studying it in high school (how surprising), but I realized later that it gave me something useful, beyond the language itself
@worldeconomicforum7210
@worldeconomicforum7210 2 жыл бұрын
Sei fortunato
@ianbridges6040
@ianbridges6040 2 жыл бұрын
​@@worldeconomicforum7210 Sono d'accordo, anche ci sono molte opere (scritti) "classiche" in italiano. Sto imparando italiano per il mio patrimonio e per leggere le opere scritti.
@Gigachad-mc5qz
@Gigachad-mc5qz Жыл бұрын
After im done with japanese i may look into latin
@werren894
@werren894 Жыл бұрын
@@Gigachad-mc5qz why learn Latin after Japanese lmao, you might need to learn mandarin after Japanese since it's the mother language so you can easily learn taiwaness, vietnam, hokkien, etc.
@Gigachad-mc5qz
@Gigachad-mc5qz Жыл бұрын
@@happygofishing whos latin
@josimargabrielr.dearaujo2206
@josimargabrielr.dearaujo2206 4 жыл бұрын
"Lingua Latina per se Illustrata" is almost exactly the same as in Portuguese, "Língua Latina por si Ilustrada". For a moment I thought Luke was talking Portuguese.
@WafflesOinc
@WafflesOinc 4 жыл бұрын
J. G. R. Araújo br?
@paschikshehu7988
@paschikshehu7988 4 жыл бұрын
Lingua Latina per se Illustrata is valid italian
@altermetax
@altermetax 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Italian is "lingua latina per sé illustrata"
@AndradeSamir
@AndradeSamir 4 жыл бұрын
As an interesting parallel to your point, learning English was the best thing that I could have ever done as a kid since it allowed me to read 99 percent of the books I have ever read in my life, only a tiny fraction of them were available in Portuguese, if that is true between two huge languages in the globalised world we have, I can only imagine how little of Latin has been translated into English.
@Crabbadabba
@Crabbadabba 2 жыл бұрын
Very true, it's interesting to point out something that has come to my attention is that scholars believe that the Northern tribes and decedents of the early norsemen (Anglos, Saxons, etc.) were using a writing system of runes, which has kind of a Eastern Character thing going on with it, with symbols representing whole words and were modular to some extent. They are also reminiscent of Latin's early alphabet. I wonder how these two writing systems diverged and if there is something to be gained from using this system, like quicker recognition of words or saving of page space by virtue of less letters. What are the tribal divergences? Do we know any of this stuff?
@tiagogadotti2079
@tiagogadotti2079 5 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Brazil. I'm a Latin translator and Arch user 😁. That's why I love your channel.
@meydjer
@meydjer 5 жыл бұрын
Parou com o Ubuntu? Alhamdulillah
@tiagogadotti2079
@tiagogadotti2079 5 жыл бұрын
@@meydjer Ubuntu nunca mais... Kkk
@jasperzanjani
@jasperzanjani 5 жыл бұрын
seu diabo
@OppaMack
@OppaMack 5 жыл бұрын
>not learning tupi
@captain_cloudd
@captain_cloudd 4 жыл бұрын
caralho eu não esperava um comentario desses aqui kkkkkkkkkkkkk
@hademvids
@hademvids 4 жыл бұрын
This is why I love Icelandic, Arabic, Latin, Nahuatl, and Chinese. All were advanced ambassadorial languages with rich culture and history. Ancient Greek too I guess...
@goyonman9655
@goyonman9655 2 жыл бұрын
Are there any languages with a "poor history"
@hademvids
@hademvids 2 жыл бұрын
@@goyonman9655 Nope, they're pretty much all fascinating either through their historical uses or their internal workings.
@bioemiliano
@bioemiliano Жыл бұрын
@@goyonman9655 All those that died and we never get to know anyone
@alonsoACR
@alonsoACR Жыл бұрын
@@goyonman9655 Those without an extensive written history
@goyonman9655
@goyonman9655 Жыл бұрын
@@alonsoACR If it's not written, how do you know if it's rich or poor??
@Clutter.monkey
@Clutter.monkey 5 жыл бұрын
Et tu, Luke?
@salvatoreshiggerino6810
@salvatoreshiggerino6810 5 жыл бұрын
@@kanedacier916 Wouldn't the vocative case of Luke's Latin cognate Lucas be _Luca?_ So it would be _Et tu, Luca?_
@mcds6307
@mcds6307 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to burst the bubble but Julius originally said that in Greek.
@beybladeguru101
@beybladeguru101 3 жыл бұрын
Kai su, teknon?
@monophone903
@monophone903 3 жыл бұрын
@@beybladeguru101 Kaj vi, Raptoro?
@azaph_yt
@azaph_yt 5 жыл бұрын
Very important point that Latin allows you to access primary sources. Working documents of the time are especially illuminating, unlike biographies/memoirs written decades later, usually to make the writer look good. If you can read something like actual correspondence between diplomats that's amazing.
@desktorp
@desktorp 5 жыл бұрын
Learning about the concept of 'root words' is possibly the most useful knowledge I got out of public school.
@ChrisTrunek
@ChrisTrunek 2 жыл бұрын
surprising your public school experience taught this. Learning the root meanings of words has been fascinating and definitely my driver to want to lean more about latin
@samisiddiqi5411
@samisiddiqi5411 4 жыл бұрын
The moment you said "gateway drug" to "classical Greek," and now "Sanskrit," lmao I felt that
@benschools
@benschools 5 жыл бұрын
"Classes are useless; just drop out." Based Luke speaks truth.
@quindarius
@quindarius 2 жыл бұрын
as a grad student
@PK-we6vk
@PK-we6vk 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot that you sound super smart and cool when speaking latin.
@JudgeGideon823
@JudgeGideon823 3 жыл бұрын
Priorities.
@didoarendt8742
@didoarendt8742 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't expected this video, muchas gracias, as Latin and Greek philologist, this video has been a little breath of acknowledgement that usually our studies and field don't have. Gracias, espero que sirva para que muchas otras personas se animen a aprender latín y griego. Gratias tibi ago.
@UCm0i6w5lBlRthCtZEoj99tg
@UCm0i6w5lBlRthCtZEoj99tg 5 жыл бұрын
He's taken on the same format of video as Varg...
@yo18momas
@yo18momas 4 жыл бұрын
Andai on earth breathing oxygen!
@bjarnestronstrup9122
@bjarnestronstrup9122 3 жыл бұрын
Let's find out !
@azaph_yt
@azaph_yt 5 жыл бұрын
You're right that Latin is a great foundation to understand the underlying structures of languages. I find that there's a big difference between understanding a language and actually being able to speak it though. Especially with languages like English or Russian, where you basically need to have heard every single word spoken by native speaker to know how to correctly pronounce it. Some languages are way easier to pronounce though since you can just string together fixed phonemes, like in Spanish, Japanese and to a lesser degree, German.
@maxim_ml
@maxim_ml 5 жыл бұрын
Eh, in Russian u can pronounce almost any word if u know where the stress is. And same with Japanese btw, if u want to pronounce the word properly u have to know where the pitch accent is. Yeah of course Russian words pronunciations change a lot more with stress, but there's still a system to it
@azaph_yt
@azaph_yt 5 жыл бұрын
@@maxim_ml Yes you can, but if you come across new words while reading, you won't know where the stress is. You'll still say the word in your head though, probably the wrong way. Then later you need to unlearn it, using the correct stress. Not to mention the stress changes all the time as words are inflected! It would reeeaaally help if Russians put accents on the stressed letter, the way Spanish does.
@chuckles5689
@chuckles5689 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxim_ml the most confusing thing is the endings/how words constantly change due to grammar
@werren894
@werren894 Жыл бұрын
japanese are just like the Austronesian language and grammar with some Chinese hybrid and syntax, it's not that consistent.
@acolytevalentin8300
@acolytevalentin8300 5 жыл бұрын
Latin was my first second language, I started taking online Latin classes in 2014 or so. I was taught to translate, not speak Latin, and moving to a new high school I was forced to select French or Spanish. I am currently working to re-teach myself Latin from my old Wheelock's Latin textbook. It's a beautiful and extremely useful language that everybody should learn.
@d1o2c3t4o5r
@d1o2c3t4o5r 5 жыл бұрын
Should we drop out of elementary school?
@LukeSmithxyz
@LukeSmithxyz 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. It's a waste.
@hexa3389
@hexa3389 4 жыл бұрын
@Rishab Tirupathi take summer classes. Free grades, waste a lot less time.
@hexa3389
@hexa3389 4 жыл бұрын
@Rishab Tirupathi Your choice in the end. But you save a lot of time and effort by going to summer school. Its literally free of effort. I still don't know what we were supposed to learn in my history class but I still got an 89%.
@abuk95
@abuk95 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, @@LukeSmithxyz, do you think it would be beneficial to learn Latin also for a native slavic language speaker? I wonder, because most of slavic languages have 7 declensions, so the person is already familiar with it. Also, Latin is fusional language, same like slavic languages, in contrast to english analytic language. Wouldn't it be more beneficial to learn eg. finnish language, which has 14(15) declensions and is not from Indo-European language family? Thanks for reply :) ps: i hope you will notice the message like this, when i tag you :D
@stroyaworskon5111
@stroyaworskon5111 5 жыл бұрын
Can you reference some of thse texts that hold great insights but are unavailable in English?
@BaDitO2
@BaDitO2 5 жыл бұрын
Ironically roman patrician would learn greek as a first language with latin as a second language
@HollowGolem
@HollowGolem 5 жыл бұрын
In Quintillian's manual for teachinghe makes the case that boys should start learning Latin shortly after they start Greek, but the Greek should definitely come first.
@zyphos9444
@zyphos9444 3 жыл бұрын
Greek basically played the role for them that Latin would play in Medieval Europe
@SaturaLanx
@SaturaLanx 3 жыл бұрын
I teach Latin online (actually speaking it, and I'm not autistic as far as I know 😉), I have a channel here on KZbin. I just stumbled upon this video and found your insights very interesting: thanks for sharing them! I also love LLPSI and use it for teaching. If you ever want advice on how and where to meet other Latin speakers, I'll be glad to help you.
@JunkBondTrader
@JunkBondTrader Жыл бұрын
I'd take a private lesson from you any day! 👩🏻‍🏫🙋‍♂ Like uh, _omnia vincit amor, et nos cedamus amori,_ and stuff ;)
@Dimich2993
@Dimich2993 4 жыл бұрын
- Learned English. - Ended up whatching Luke's motivation video about Latin(after couple of videos about suckless). - Started learning Latin.
@zendariun101
@zendariun101 10 ай бұрын
Me
@alt_warn4211
@alt_warn4211 5 жыл бұрын
I read LLPSI from your advice about a year ago. It taught me more about English than anything I learned in school. I recommend checking out old church documents, specifically old encyclicals. Some really interesting stuff and a great insight into the mind of the time.
@tjs.5044
@tjs.5044 2 жыл бұрын
How far did it take you? I am just starting the book. How long did it take you to read it?
@alonsoACR
@alonsoACR Жыл бұрын
@@tjs.5044 this, i also wnana know
@an2qzavok
@an2qzavok 5 жыл бұрын
Would it be worthy endeavor to translate my computer UI into latin?
@joshuarowe8410
@joshuarowe8410 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@Alekov_
@Alekov_ 5 жыл бұрын
Been thinking about it for some time. Will definitely give it a try.
@yatoxic1213
@yatoxic1213 3 жыл бұрын
I only had one year of Latin and reading a bit through that book felt amazing. I actually want to pick it up again.
@johanponken
@johanponken 5 жыл бұрын
I learned (basic) Spanish from an old book of my father's, actually a radio / vinyl disc series, from the 1950's. But I managed with the book only, as it was so very pedagogic, and also engaging, as it was about a family. At the time I was working a simple job, so had time to read, and it didn't take long.
@diegomarquez3293
@diegomarquez3293 Жыл бұрын
What dialect
@KubrickFR
@KubrickFR 5 жыл бұрын
I'm French and I learned English (of course) and 2 years of Latin followed by 1 year of Greek. I then traveled Europe and I found that I could learn pretty much every western languages (Spanish, Italian, German, etc) in a few days to a day to day level. I really think that, at least for Europe, knowing a bit of Latin, a bit of Greek and English or German does wonders as far as picking up languages.
@KubrickFR
@KubrickFR 5 жыл бұрын
I might have to read the book you recommended at the end of the video, looks great, thanks for the recommendation!
@KubrickFR
@KubrickFR 5 жыл бұрын
I went to Poland for a week when I was 13 and just starting Latin. I already was 'good enough' in English but far from fluent. Sadly I was lost, we learnt some vocabulary but, at least at the time, nothing clicked for me. What language is it close to? I would love to learn a little bit of polish nowadays, because I don't even remember the few world/phrases we learnt back then. I was in Varsovia (not sure about spelling) at the time.
@p_serdiuk
@p_serdiuk 5 жыл бұрын
@@KubrickFR It's close to Ukrainian. In general, the same thing you described applies to Slavic languages, as well. Learn any East Slavic (Russian, Ukrainian, Belorussian) and West Slavic (Polish, Czech, Croatian) language and you'll be able to pretty much understand every other variation of it.
@user-ek7js9bo4n
@user-ek7js9bo4n 5 жыл бұрын
If you really wanna challenge yourself,try out Sanskrit it's an alien language unrelated to any other language on Earth,they add weird endings to words.
@bhutchin1996
@bhutchin1996 3 жыл бұрын
Did you use Assimil? I have their courses (French L1) for Latin, Attic Greek and Sanskrit. French was the 2nd foreign language I studied, and I did that on my own with French penpals.
@mehmetedex
@mehmetedex 5 жыл бұрын
Me: Spends 2 years learning French but still in A1 Also me (after watching so many videos about Latin on KZbin): *E f f i c e r e O M N I A A A A A A*
@visagemsc
@visagemsc 2 жыл бұрын
im too small brain what is efficere omnia
@mehmetedex
@mehmetedex 2 жыл бұрын
@@visagemsc im too small brain mate don't go hard on yourself. "Efficere omniaa" means "accomplish everything"
@visagemsc
@visagemsc 2 жыл бұрын
@@mehmetedexthanks
@doxanthropos
@doxanthropos 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. While learning Latin was no joy to me as it was to you, the benefits of understanding grammar, other languages and many other things is something I enjoy greatly. But I think you overestimate the historical education of your temporaries: in my experience most people still think about the "middle ages" as "dark ages".
@werren894
@werren894 Жыл бұрын
i don't even know why there is an idea of enlightenment if there are no dark ages, i mean it's fair if you talk about Europe only due to slow progression, with the existence of middle-east and their advancement in technology they occupied Spain as a basis of the greek study, which the fallen of Arab making Spain become the basis of science for Europe that inspired globalization.
@alonsoACR
@alonsoACR Жыл бұрын
@@werren894What are you talking about? Europe advanced faster than the muslims even in the middle ages. Spain got taken over for completely different reasons. First of all being that they were outnumbered severely from start to finish. Also how common treason was, and no wonder due to how awful the Visigoths were to Spain. The Englightenment is badly named as well. Witch hunts peaked in the Enlightenment, not the Middle Ages, as an example.
@majkus
@majkus 11 күн бұрын
I was writing a (not very good) prep-school novel taking place in 1907. To add proper detail, I found a prep-school catalog from 1906 that listed the required textbooks for different classes. Your first Latin textbook was apparently the one they used: Collar and Daniell’s The Beginner’s Latin (1891) apparently still in use years later. I even downloaded a copy from Google Books to see what my protagonist was up against. For a long time, English grammar instruction suffered from the wrong-headed idea that Latin was some kind of perfect grammar of which English was an imperfect imitation. And so, split infinitives were forbidden, and ending sentences with prepositions was a punishable offense ("We are such stuff as dreams are made on." Sorry, Will, "We are such stuff as that on which dreams are made," is the correct version). In 1910, James Fernald (of Funk and Wagnall’s) wrote in his very interesting book, 'Expressive English' (he is here arguing for the value of English translations of great works rather than expecting people to read them in Greek or Latin, or modern foreign languages for that matter): ”…the average college graduate is more to be pitied than blamed. From the time when he plowed through Vergil and Cicero in the high school, he has been forced to treat the classic authors simply as exercises in etymology. In old time the classics were endeared to the schoolboy by sound floggings, and in more recent times by “keeping after school.” … Hence, they must go into the garden plot of one of Vergil’s most beautiful descriptions, and pull up every word by the roots to see what it is made of. They must massacre every line of Homer, till the slaughter of Greeks and Trojans becomes a negligible quantity. If by any chance a student is caught feeling any real interest in a passage, he is dragged through some wire-fences of syntax or some underbrush of Doric or Æolic variants, till not only the conceit is taken out of him, but also all interest in the author’s thought. … We know one boy who was kept two hours after school because he was indiscreet enough to see the joke in a story in his German reader and to laugh at it.“ The problem with an analytical grammar book like Collar and Daniell, then, is that you aren't encouraged to 'think' in the language and read the classical texts for their meanings, let alone poetry. Circa 1900, prep school boys learning Latin-in the US and also in UK public-schools-would 'construe' texts, for stern schoolmasters, and would be punished by writing out a number of 'lines' of Latin text. We see that this was still the practice when the Monty Python group was young. "Romani Ite Domum, one hundred times, Sir? Yes Sir. Hail Caesar and all that, Sir." I suspect that the modern storytelling 'Cambridge Latin Course' approach is more realistic.
@_nosma
@_nosma 5 жыл бұрын
Είσαι πολύ μάγκας, άπειρος σεβασμός από Ελλάδα, love your channel, love what you do, love (and use) your i3 configurations, you helped me to be much more efficient in my life and work, HUGE THANKS!!!
@leoriso
@leoriso 2 жыл бұрын
This video unlocked a memory I have of my philosophy teacher, who knew latin and ancient Greek, getting triggered whenever someone mentioned the medieval period as a dark age lol. I really liked him, he was a great guy with a very sad life story
@gabe-a-ghoul691
@gabe-a-ghoul691 2 жыл бұрын
What was his opinion on that statement? I thought that most of the Medieval Period was always considered the “Dark Ages”, did he consider a different time in history to be the Dark Ages or was the term just not fitting in his opinion?
@user-sz3eo5mu9f
@user-sz3eo5mu9f 3 жыл бұрын
It is always fascinating to learn an ancient language. As a person who still speaks an ancient living language it really gives goosebumps to read something written 2000 years back and still able to understand even now!
@anatolystepanovichdyatlov1747
@anatolystepanovichdyatlov1747 5 жыл бұрын
Currently learning Latin in a course of 8 hours a day, 6 days a week, one month in total. Unlike classes in university I have to pay for this one at a private Institution and indeed... normal classes are horrible. Dog bles gabidalism :-DDDD Need it for my degree in history, translating Latin into German can be a pain in the ass at times but i keep myself motivated, your video including. Appreciated!
@xyugi0007
@xyugi0007 5 жыл бұрын
Luke, please recommend your favorite latin texts
@ltxr9973
@ltxr9973 3 жыл бұрын
Latin is great. I've learned it for a few years back in school (because who would possibly want to learn french?), was really bad at it and got rid of Latin as a subject. But it turns out I remember a lot and it has helped me a lot with romanic languages and understanding where many of the words commonly used are coming from. Of course it also helps with seeing through all the newspeak nowadays.
@OmniDan26
@OmniDan26 Жыл бұрын
pog
@zendariun101
@zendariun101 10 ай бұрын
How do you learn
@ltxr9973
@ltxr9973 10 ай бұрын
​@@zendariun101 I learn best from practical experience but you don't really get that with latin. The classes didn't feel like english or spanish classes, the way it was taught was much more similar to math or physics classes.
@zendariun101
@zendariun101 10 ай бұрын
@@ltxr9973 thanks
@ltxr9973
@ltxr9973 9 ай бұрын
@@zendariun101 Also my Latin teacher was a very strict, even somewhat scary old lady. Nobody wanted to disappoint her too much 😁
@WorldPowerLabs
@WorldPowerLabs Жыл бұрын
I decided to take Latin in high school because I wasn't particularly interested in Spanish or French (the only other languages they offered). I enjoyed the first year so much that I took a second, and then two semesters in college. It's useful to know in ways that may not be immediately apparent.
@DennisChaves
@DennisChaves 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! I looked up that book on Amazon - Lingva Latina Per Se Illvstrata - and I was in fact able to understand the dialog on the first page. Cool!
@Aljam66
@Aljam66 5 жыл бұрын
I have a latin dictionary from 1805. I've always wanted to learn latin but never had the time. I might try and learn it when I'm not so busy. If you ever have the time to do another language focused video could you make on how pronunciation is written if you haven't already covered it? This dictionary from nineteenth century has weird spellings and symbols as expected for something this old but it all just seems like magic incantations to me. Forr instance I think the long dash over a letter extends the syllable so the upwards curved line would be to shorten it no?
@jairosouza7994
@jairosouza7994 4 жыл бұрын
Man, I decided to come back to latin studying after have watched this video. Thanks
@francisholder7570
@francisholder7570 5 жыл бұрын
You should do a series on teaching latin
@roly20202
@roly20202 4 жыл бұрын
Latin 1000 years ago was used in the church which is what defined the vocabulary. It was when they excavated Pompei they realised that the Romans spoke coarse Latin. Proper Latin was only for books.
@creativeartworks353
@creativeartworks353 5 жыл бұрын
Had Latin in school for 5 years and don‘t remember a thing. But I actually have been thinking of trying to get back into it for a couple months now. I might just start again...
@fcouperin
@fcouperin 5 жыл бұрын
h₁sn̥tyom h₁éweukʷes btw, please make a list of suggestions of what to read in Latin. All I’ve read so far is classical, except for the Historia Brittonum and some of Marsilio Ficino...
@wasumyon6147
@wasumyon6147 3 жыл бұрын
Well I took the Latinpill and just finished the DuoLingo course. Next will be your book, thank you for the recommendation.
@micheleferrari5739
@micheleferrari5739 5 жыл бұрын
Best video I've seen in a while
@peterjansen4826
@peterjansen4826 5 жыл бұрын
So learning Latin first and then other languages is like first learning computer architecture and assembly and only then learn higher programming languages? I learned a little bit of Latin out of curiosity.
@eiriklade93
@eiriklade93 5 жыл бұрын
Lunchtime with Luke. I like it. 6 seasons and a movie!
@abuk95
@abuk95 4 жыл бұрын
Hi,​ @Luke Smith, do you think it would be beneficial to learn Latin also for a native slavic language speaker? I wonder, because most of slavic languages have 7 declensions, so the person is already familiar with it. Also, Latin is fusional language, same like slavic languages, in contrast to english analytic language. Wouldn't it be more beneficial to learn eg. finnish language, which has 14(15) declensions and is not from Indo-European language family? Thanks for reply :)
@PK-we6vk
@PK-we6vk 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so grateful that my mum made me learn English since 4 years old.
@Sman-eg1zs
@Sman-eg1zs Жыл бұрын
I bought 'Gwynnes Latin' about 10 years ago, very nostalgic, reminded me of learning Latin at school. Very inspiring too, I want to give it another try.
@freddief939
@freddief939 5 жыл бұрын
Luke's videos are very educational. I think he picked the correct major, linguistics.
@muhammadjefferson1259
@muhammadjefferson1259 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Luke, you've been making a lot of interesting videos recently related to language, so I gotta ask, have you ever looked into Generative Anthropology before? I've only looked a little bit into it and if you've already looked into it, it would be nice if you make a video about it.
@alonsoACR
@alonsoACR Жыл бұрын
I believe he hates it
@youngarmani7155
@youngarmani7155 4 жыл бұрын
hey luke as a native speaker of what i hear is an interesting language (albanian) please let me know what you might think of its structure compared to latin or any other indo european languages, also please do a video on interesting languages and why they are interesting that might be accesible to people who have not studied linguistics
@user-gt8ql9vp1b
@user-gt8ql9vp1b 5 жыл бұрын
wot, no heinlein reference? Luke, could you put your literature recommendations in a textual form in the description?
@stumbling
@stumbling 5 жыл бұрын
You actually sold me.
@jnestor481
@jnestor481 2 жыл бұрын
Bought a used copy of Wheelock’s Latin for $5. Best money I ever spent. Used to wake up before sunrise and study it with a cup of tea. “Wtf is dative case ? Why are all the endings changing ?” Good times.
@TheTim466
@TheTim466 5 жыл бұрын
I learned Latin for six years in school and forgot most of it again already, help.
@lostcarcosa2518
@lostcarcosa2518 5 жыл бұрын
I learned Latin using Wheelock’s and “Lingva Latina”, but it didn’t click until I read “Latin Grammar” by Bennett (1909). Attic Greek was an absolute bitch until I found White’s “First Greek Book” (1896) because my class text was utter garbage. It’s been awhile since I’ve actively read any Latin. What would you recommend for a refresher for syntax (my memory of inflections is still pretty good) & vocabulary? Should I just go through “Lingva Latina” again?
@pcdro
@pcdro 5 жыл бұрын
I'm Brazilian and it was a little difficult to find some of the books you talked about, but I finded Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata. Can you put in comments or description the name of them? Thank you for this video, I was looking for some inspiration about a personal project to learn new languages. Kind Regards!
@johnlawrence3781
@johnlawrence3781 Жыл бұрын
(Mr.) Lucas Smith, can you recommend a book for classical Greek? I've come across plenty for Latin, but far fewer for Ancient Greek.
@darshanand6337
@darshanand6337 3 жыл бұрын
Sanskrit is to me, as Latin is to you.
@pallasathena1555
@pallasathena1555 2 ай бұрын
I just watched a KZbin video where the guy said: “me, and my friends, are gunna hit the bar”. The downside of learning Latin is having things like this grate on me.
@afonsorafael2728
@afonsorafael2728 5 жыл бұрын
Luke, what do you do for a living? (in a weird way, you are a big inspiration for me)
@user-ek7js9bo4n
@user-ek7js9bo4n 5 жыл бұрын
Sanskrit is an alien language unrelated to any other language on earth. They add weird endings to words.
@oscarl2178
@oscarl2178 3 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in learning latin. do you have any book recommendations? what were you using to learn?
@HansPeter-qg2vc
@HansPeter-qg2vc 4 жыл бұрын
Daaamn Lingua Latina per se Illustrata is epic. Also: Fuck you, Luke! I already know that imma stay up for way too long this night.
@uzKantHarrison
@uzKantHarrison 4 жыл бұрын
If you already know a bit of Latin my personal recommendation is to listen to Nuntii Latini. Basically the Finnish radio is so amazing that they sometimes have the news in Latin.
@tristenarcher1537
@tristenarcher1537 4 жыл бұрын
How do I access or find the scholastics from the Middle Ages????
@slumberstudio4757
@slumberstudio4757 4 жыл бұрын
do you think learning latin from duolingo is a good idea? in my country imported books are rare and so expensive if any
@RexGalilae
@RexGalilae 3 жыл бұрын
Apart from this, the part of the world that was leading all intellectual thought at the time i.e. the Islamic World got all its source material from Latin itself. Most Islamic scholars were versed in Latin and/or Greek. It's crazy how understated Roman influence was on the rest of the world
@verl0000
@verl0000 5 жыл бұрын
Luke, how do I find these mediaeval and renaissance works you kept talking about? I want to find this secret vault of knowledge.
@murfnturf23
@murfnturf23 5 жыл бұрын
I second this. Where do we find these texts?
@Crabbadabba
@Crabbadabba 2 жыл бұрын
@@murfnturf23 I third this, I want the sources to the original alchemical discoveries!
@Mayesters
@Mayesters 5 жыл бұрын
I learned Latin and English in school and dropped out of latin after 5 years b/c I only had to take one language course then. I probably forgot almost everything but boy translating stuff from Latin to German was such a pain in the ass sometimes.
@gjergskender8536
@gjergskender8536 2 жыл бұрын
Luke, I have some pretty radical software ideas(nothing bad); but if I got some white papers together could I shoot them your way? Id appreciate you input on some of my algorithmic theories.
4 жыл бұрын
Portuguese-speakers searching for good material, take a look at "Gradus Primus" by Paulo Rónai.
@infinitelink
@infinitelink 5 жыл бұрын
Protip: the Latin you studied has never been un langue maternae. It was a construct because by the time Rome was "ancient" (relative to our modern period) in their time those "Romans" (Latins) were already widespread and speaking MANY "vulgar" tongues (the reality of which are obscured ironically by the newer constructs known by terms like "Spanish", "French", "Italian" etc.) Latine gaudium est
@Crabbadabba
@Crabbadabba 2 жыл бұрын
How I'm viewing Latin in a general sense is that it was the classical Era of the West's most prominent colonial language and the most prominent source of the shared western vocabulary we use to this date.
@peterlange5624
@peterlange5624 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Luke, some years ago I wanted to learn Latin. I was checking out different books and styles to learn it and got very fast the impression that one had to learn all things in Latin by hard, grammar and vocabulary. This kept me away from learning it. I have learned 3 foreign languages using a different style. I have used old school textbooks with lessons on vocabulary and a specific grammar issue. I avoided learning vocabulary by hard with flashcards. Instead I was practising them. The grammar issues I was learning and practising. All textbooks I found in Germany seem to force the learner to learn every step in grammar by hard. That was the reason I refused to learn Latin. Do you have any suugestions on my issue? Of course not regarding useful german textbooks. Peter
@tjs.5044
@tjs.5044 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah get Lingua Latina per se Illustrata. You aren't frontloaded a bunch of grammar to memorize, instead you slowly pick up the grammar naturally; the book uses a method of language acquisition called the inductive contextual method.
@Goodmanperson55
@Goodmanperson55 5 жыл бұрын
Say I got through Lingua Latina per se Ilustrata and polished my knowledge using an accompanying grammar book, what other resources would you recommend to hone more my understanding of Latin? Something like a website that conveniently compiles written Latin material could work.
@LukeSmithxyz
@LukeSmithxyz 5 жыл бұрын
Like thelatinlibrary.com/ ?
@Goodmanperson55
@Goodmanperson55 5 жыл бұрын
@@LukeSmithxyz Didn't know that site existed. It's exactly what I'm looking for. Thank you.
@myrlewulf6256
@myrlewulf6256 3 жыл бұрын
@@LukeSmithxyz Nice, I just recommend this site to someone else. Its one of the best out there.
@yusuf_scott82
@yusuf_scott82 5 жыл бұрын
If you really want to stretch your linguistics, then learn classical Arabic, not modern standard Arabic. It will give you a bunch of background for the Medieval texts your are talking about. The sciences flourished during this time. It is also a highly nuanced language.
@yusuf_scott82
@yusuf_scott82 5 жыл бұрын
@@catapulte1 The Madinah books are a good introduction. They are fairly cheap, about $30 on Amazon, and there are a ton of videos on KZbin that teach them for free. You have to learn how to read and write before you can use these books. A book called "The Arabic Alphabet" by Awde and Samono is good for this.
@lobos2092
@lobos2092 5 жыл бұрын
I've found the book that he mentions if anyone is interested: archive.org/details/collardaniellsfi00collrich/page/n6
@johnnym9909
@johnnym9909 4 жыл бұрын
Can someone link me the book he's talking about at 13:16. I can't find it :
@watchout3811
@watchout3811 4 жыл бұрын
Here's an amazon link, I believe this is the book he mentioned. www.amazon.com/First-Latin-Book-Classic-Reprint/dp/028243917X/ref=tmm_pap_title_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1577699807&sr=1-13 I'm having trouble finding a PDF copy of 'The First Latin Book' but there is a book also written by William C. Collar called 'The beginners Latin book'. www.forgottenbooks.com/en/books/TheBeginnersLatinBook_10018798 edit: unless you meant Hans Orbergs book with the latin name, you can find the pdf here gen.lib.rus.ec/search.php?req=Lingua+Latina+per+se+Illustrata&open=0&res=25&view=simple&phrase=1&column=def and the amazon link here www.amazon.com/Lingua-Latina-Illustrata-Pars-Familia/dp/1585104205/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Lingua+Latina+per+se+Illustrata&qid=1577701725&s=books&sr=1-1
@grigoryshepelev8149
@grigoryshepelev8149 5 жыл бұрын
How do I install Latin on Ubuntu?
@hexa3389
@hexa3389 4 жыл бұрын
sudo apt install latin
@thatonegoblin7051
@thatonegoblin7051 3 жыл бұрын
fucking love this comment
@sessonid5082
@sessonid5082 5 жыл бұрын
More language videos tho for real!!!
@dachrillz
@dachrillz 5 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to hear what you think about German. I guess German is considered "one of the trickier" western European languages, since it is somewhat reliant on cases. Do you think it could serve as mental exercise in the same way Latin does? I mean, it shares a lot of vocabulary with English, just like you said Latin does, while it could be considered more complex grammatically for English speakers. Love these language vid, keep them up!
@maxim_ml
@maxim_ml 5 жыл бұрын
It has only 4 cases and 3 in practice. The verbal inflections are fairly poor too
@doomsdaymachiene91
@doomsdaymachiene91 3 жыл бұрын
Is it easier to learn Latin from Spanish or from an English perspective??
@EduardoAdameSalles
@EduardoAdameSalles 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Brazilian, and Latin is really great.
@_Cartographer_
@_Cartographer_ 3 жыл бұрын
How can we learn Latin?
@hidesbehindpseudonym1920
@hidesbehindpseudonym1920 2 жыл бұрын
Classes are not useless, lecture might be useless. Getting help and feedback from experienced and knowledgeable people in a convenient and immediate way is faster and more efficient than combing through forums or engaging in endless hours of trial and error. For something like learning a language one of those softwares like Rosetta Stone or Duolingo or something like that is probably better than a traditional lecture style class, but even traditional college courses use software like that. In addition you have one on one and get real time feedback with the language expert if you pay for some sort of a class. Like all of the people who built the Linux kernel who originally wrote the languages that Luke uses learned not only by doing but at first through traditional college courses...
@thomasappelflap4433
@thomasappelflap4433 3 жыл бұрын
I got these lessons I high school still regret not doing anything, I want to learn Latin and I will do it! Facta, non verba!
@infinitelink
@infinitelink 5 жыл бұрын
Other protip: though I haven't did in, Russian not only has a lot of similar benefits as it's also a cased language like Latin but it has the additional advantage (today, now that politics are what they are) of making you an officially decreed "bot" (not a bad thing for technologists). Unfortunately, don't have time for it myself. :(
@aayushnp5430
@aayushnp5430 5 жыл бұрын
What do you think of Sanskrit? I've heard that linguists say sanskrit is beautiful
@adriansrfr
@adriansrfr 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think about Wheelocks Latin?
@harmonyln7
@harmonyln7 Жыл бұрын
I love languages. I'm learning it so I can read the philosophical and scientific works in their original, as well as finding the history of language interesting, which words have evolved over time and which others remain the same etc. I think it was a mistake to remove Latin among other things from the school cariculum. The only languages my school taught when I was there were French and German, although since then they added Spanish. Learning greek would be useful too.
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