Why Are People Happy That Concord Is Failing? - Luke Reacts

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[@captainonomatopoeia]

You just know for a fact if Black Myth Wukong flopped, these journalists would dance on its grave and mock the game and the devs.

[@14ElmStreet28]

Why would they do that

[@boitmecklyn4995]

@@14ElmStreet28 because the devs didn't bend the knee.

[@Eladelia]

@@14ElmStreet28 For the same reason the article is carefully evasive in making a reference to Wukong but never actually calling the game by name like he was in terror of calling attention to it

[@strawberrylotlizard]

Because modern games journalists is about activism not integrity​@@14ElmStreet28

[@alexisestrada9188]

See its comments like this that concern me. I wouldn't want either of these games to fail. But there seems to be some weird political supremacy leaning on both these games. Like holy crap both are designed to just be played. I don't lean in to either of these supposed narratives. Seriously so high level conspiracies that are bleeding even into something as nuanced as video games. And please note this isn't an attack on you but a scary acknowledgement that for some reason people can't afford to have their own opinions because of being left out of either group. To any who reads this, I genuinely hope you have a good day and hopefully enjoy your hobbies. Mine just happen to be video games.

[@Sparticulous]

These people antagonize gamers and get triggered that we celebrate their failure

[@ArksideGames]

PRECISELY

[@POOKISTAN]

Just so people are aware, Mr. Stephens appears to be blocking keywords associated with what he handwaves away at the 18 minute mark - If you try to write a Comment regarding that, it will be gone if you logout and check if it's still there. That's incredibly cowardly of him, and he's just incredibly out-of-touch as a result. Just figured you guys would want to know that these Comments are being filtered through his Ministry of Truth so that they don't reflect how out-of-touch he really is....

[@POOKISTAN]

Just so people are aware, Mr. Stephens appears to be blocking keywords associated with what he handwaves away at the 18 minute mark - If you try to write a Comment regarding that, it will be gone if you logout and check if it's still there. That's incredibly cowardly of him, and he's just incredibly out-of-touch as a result. Just figured you guys would want to know that these Comments are being filtered through his Ministry of Truth so that they don't reflect how out-of-touch he really is..

[@POOKISTAN]

Just FYI: Mr. Stephens is bloc king Comments regarding what he handwaves away at the 18 minute mark. Just wanted to make people awware.

[@SnipingIsFun]

Truth

[@theknightjester]

Gamers dancing on the graves of games we dont want but that the industry keeps trying to force on us

[@ed61730]

Sony could be making... bloodborne remake, wipeout, kill zone... even a Medieval remake would be better than this

[@captaindropkik]

The summary we didn't want but needed

[@-castradomis-1773]

@@ed61730 Facts. They have so many neglected killer ips...So many games that fans would gobble up and make easy money. Also Medieval was remade a few years ago.

[@TJaeSpeaks]

Go see "Dustborn". Its horrible. Less than 100 players.

[@beardalaxy]

​@@ed61730Wipeout ToT

[@TentaclebuckeT]

Writer: Don't make fun of Concord or else we won't get more games like Concord. Community: THAT'S THE POINT!

[@lutherheggs451]

I can't wait to hear from the same pathetic people crying about Concord try to proclaim that the Xbox version Frag Punk is totes amazing. Because normal intelligent people who no interest in Concord actually touch grass, don't creep out da weemonz and just move on with their life if something doesn't look interesting, they don't dwell on it and need 2500 videos about how awful something is

[@John-PaulHunt-q3z]

Me: black myth to me is more of a sign of how games development could go the way of music makers and hollywood being more corporate and safe over being creative here to sell to the chinese.

[@willbaker6532]

The issue is that the execs are so blind that they'll misinterpret completely why the game failed and most likely remove the few parts that people actually liked and add more things that people don't want. Like with the suicide squad. Do you think any exec legitimately looked at that failure and thought "maybe its because of the live service aspect and the grinding and microtransactions" No they'll probabaly go "Hm maybe the issue was people arnt that interested in superhero games, let's move the whole team to working on our new live service fps that will definitely be the Cod killer"

[@Amadeus_A]

I'm going to be honest. The game's failure isn't the thing bringing me joy, it's the journalist crying about this game's failure that brings me joy. If we can all just agree the game is bad and move on, I'd just move on. But seeing journalists trying so desperately to control a narrative and failing... it just brings me so much joy. Edit: I just want to address this because I saw some people in the replies saying they like the game. If you do, cool. Awesome. My point is just I have no attachment to this game whatsoever. Not emotionally. Not financially. Whatever happens with the game itself, good or bad, doesn't affect me. But the numbers are bad, and I enjoy watching the journalists trying to talk around it.

[@TTx04xCOBRA]

@@Amadeus_A it means there's a void in your life you're trying to fill

[@axelstone3131]

It’s fine. It’s fun to play and that’s all that matters.

[@Gekkco]

@@axelstone3131said no one besides you…

[@14ElmStreet28]

Yeah, but you do realize that it only encourages these companies to keep making free2play games

[@or1on89]

@@TTx04xCOBRA Or maybe people are just annoyed at being told what they should like and what they should not like...void, lol

[@HerpDerp-ql1jw]

It's not a mystery. If something I don't like fails, it increases the chances the company will change their strategy to make something I like.

[@MarCoViTV]

Nall not with women when it fails accountability shifts to the males

[@nullpoint3346]

@@MarCoViTV Our success is our success, but our failure is your failure.

[@thecasualoblivion]

There is a growing sense that the gaming industry, developers and journalists, hates their customers. When a game that doesn’t respect the customers fails that is something to be celebrated. Failure and punishment can lead to positive change.

[@kellywilson137]

It loves a certain demographic of loud self proclaimed gamers, but that group never showed up to support it.

[@megamandrn001]

Concord blatantly, obviously ripped of GotG and legit thought we wouldn't notice. Like, they truly think we're dumb. Either that or THEY didn't notice they obviously blatantly ripped it off, and I'm not sure which is worse

[@Marinealver]

@@kellywilson137 "Gaymers" and yes they/them have called themselves that all while proclaiming their "superiority over unwashed masses of gamers" If you see one, GATEKEEP!

[@darcrequiem]

@thecasualoblivion It's been clear that game journalists have hated gamers since the Mass Effect 3 ending fiasco. The called gamers "entitled" because they were dissatisfied with a product they paid for.

[@DefaultProphet]

@@Marinealverliving rent free in your head lol

[@DJ-wl5qo]

This article was only written because someone saw that Gollum had more players during its launch.

[@TheProphegy]

Only reason that game even had any players is because it’s a LOTR game and a lot of casuals will be more eager to pick it up then us who prowl the internet and check out reviews.

[@DJ-wl5qo]

@@TheProphegyOK? It’s still really funny.

[@gammafourteen8843]

@@TheProphegy It is not a win for you when Gollum peaked at 758 and Concord peaked at 697

[@TheProphegy]

@@gammafourteen8843 why would it be a win for me? I’m not on either side, just stating the only reason Gollum even had half the players it did is because it was the LOTR license.

[@DJ-wl5qo]

@@TheProphegylook, both games are pathetic, OK. Fine, you win. It’s just annoying when i post an obvious joke and some jackass comments “uhm ackshually!!!”

[@DainRiffgin89]

One big reason why people are "dancing on its grave" is that when people first saw the trailers, they didn't like it: bad character design, generic looking gameplay, and the pronouns in the select screen just seemed excessive, but it was the mainstream media that immediately went to the games defense. There were also reports that there was a toxic work environment, specifically around a lead developer who now goes by "The Professor" who would force people to refer to them as that, and if employees didn't, they could get fired. Also we heard that the devs called negative feedback "White noise" that needed to be "drowned out". This signaled to us that this was an out of touch echo chamber of a studio that cared more about their particular vision than what the players wanted. Fast forward to the betas, and it became evident that we were right: not even cracking 2500 in the open beta, with most people saying it was ok to bad. And yet the media still went to bat for it again. Then of course on launch day there was the "talentless freaks" comment (along with the dev hiding replies and saying "pay me $8 to make your reply public again" before privating their own account), and numerous articles from the media with headlines like "Just give Concord a chance!" which all seemed very disingenuous. What's more is, since it was coming out at the same time that Black Myth: Wukong came out (which had numerous libel campaigns against it by the same media outlets), a game that since it was announced players had been clamoring for it, it was the perfect juxtaposition: Concord was an example of a game no one wanted, heavily promoted by the media, tailor made for the "Modern Audience", falling flat on its face; meanwhile, Black Myth: Wukong, a game from a former mobile studio doing its first single player title, steeped in Chinese mythology, and hotly anticipated by gamers despite the media bashing, broke records (probably in part to spite the media). These two couldn't be more different. This whole article is an exercise in bad faith: it is coming from a certain point of view, and is bending every point to fit his view. He can't admit the real reason that Concord failed (gamers weren't interested), so he then tries to guilt gamers that are celebrating what is seen as a moral victory for the industry. But you know he has gone off the deep end when he is essentially saying, "Guys, you're not letting the multi-billion dollar corporation speak, stop oppressing them!" He seems to have forgotten the fundamental rule of commerce: give the customer what they want, not what you think they should want. That is why we are dancing, and your whining is fitting music.

[@UnBR0k3enAngel]

Just a really great response. No further comments

[@poakcastle]

Great answer, couldn’t have said it better myself. It’s sad to see Luke dance around the issue like that. The game failed because it’s unappealing, generic, pricey and in an oversaturated market, sure. But the grave dancing is due to the contempt the studio and media showed for the opinion of gamers, i.e. their paying customers.

[@studio_mekapunk]

Bro COOKED with this comment, spot on points

[@user-qu9xs6fw8f]

This is a really solid comment.

[@Mattblaze1477]

Sums it up perfectly.

[@tropictiger2387]

These people have done everything they can to antagonise gamers in their search for the mythical modern audience. They have made their bed and now they can lay in it.

[@thegemguy1334]

Well, they did find the modern audience. About 200 of them.

[@michaelpettersson4919]

@@thegemguy1334 Exactly. Players at start DO include people trying out to see if they are part of this mythical "modern audience". When they realise that they are not, they move on. As such, only the retained player base really count.

[@shinnyshin7792]

I am the modern audience. I'm a queer, urban, politically active PoC. I pretty regularly to go game night at the local gay bar. You'd have to pay me to play this game, same for everyone in my bubble. Don't put this on us, we didn't want it either--do you think we're the ones asking for boring, ugly characters?

[@zot171]

​@@shinnyshin7792honestly, this is even better... youre exactly the audience theyre trying to pander to, but if you dont want it, why would anyone else?

[@theblackknight101]

​@@zot171its not even for them.. its for virtue signalling white women who dont even play games.. except candy crush

[@bruvkek4629]

journalists trying to prevent turds from flopping is a bad habit

[@charaznable8072]

They are only trying to prevent this from flopping being it fits with their Identity Politics if this game was about say christians instead and it flopped they wouldn't give a damn.

[@TwistdTrip]

@@charaznable8072 True and real

[@kyosefgofa]

They want to be invited to Sony's next free vacati-, err I mean press events

[@avalokiteshvara113]

​@@charaznable8072ah yes poor persecuted Christians it's not you're the most popular and powerful religion in the world lmao

[@IdleWandering]

it’s not journalism it’s more advertising than anything and it always has been, and when games fail it’s less advertising dollars and less clicks on their sites for the games journalists

[@INeedJesus55]

Didn't the devs dismiss feedback as "white noise"? They designed a game no one asked for and then brushed off the negative response from the market.

[@ivancerecer5758]

I don't know much of this game's development. But i heard it took 8 years to make Thats like, they saw Overwatch come out, and got to work 8 years of gaming evolution happened. And if what you say its true, they stayed on their path of mimicking a game from 2016

[@nadtz]

This has nothing to do with 'unpopular games' and everything to do with this game specifically. All these games that people are happy to see fail utterly miss the mark in some way or another that anyone who actually plays games can see from a mile away. As soon as we saw the gameplay reveal for SS we knew that game was going to suck. As soon as we saw the gameplay reveal for this we knew it was going to suck. Stop making games for 'the modern audience' and you know, make them for the people who actually play games.

[@NeoTechni]

1) Because the characters are hideously disgustingly grotesquely ugly 2) The cinematic trailer told us we were getting a knockoff Guardians of the Galaxy (good), the gameplay trailer told us we were getting a knockoff Overwatch (bad) 3) Overwatch is free, this is not 4) the devs have shown themselves to be racist, and hate-filled on twitter 5) We're told upwards of $200 million was wasted by Sony on this that could have gone towards something we actually wanted like Days Gone 2, or not raising the cost of PS5 by 20% why would we want to support any of that?

[@Shmandalf]

I couldn't believe how bad the character designs are. Its like when your 5 year old goes through mum's closet and throws on the first things they see

[@scarletina5137]

They forgot the number one rule ... sex sells. No one wants anything to do with any of these hideous characters.

[@jibberjabberstepback612]

People want Days Gone 2? Who and why? That game was fucking ass.

[@belknah]

PCGAMES are the same people laughing at Redfall

[@fattony75]

Yep red fall and starfield - 2 to 3 articles a day about them and their failures but concord - ohhhh the humanityyyyy

[@renaudsimard7717]

Yikes...

[@Prototype-357]

@@fattony75 I'm genuinely confused about that, why is Concord the hill they've chosen to die on? Concord, of all flops, why do they think this one is worth defending? At all?

[@sona_rium]

@@Prototype-357 because Sony.

[@Chris-we7hh]

​@@Prototype-357are you srsly not seeing why? Cuz "THE MESSAGE"

[@bigoudiii]

There are people who claim that people who didn't buy the game are at fault if the studio closes. Lol wth. I do whatever with my money the last time I checked.

[@nycxtile]

Was it the studio's offical stance or were they individuals? Having worked in games for number of years I would say based on my experience and observation, people don't share the same views even when working at the same company or even the same games. Some are just more outspoken.

[@kryptomanik]

Are these people in the room with us right now?

[@alispeed5095]

@@nycxtile Yeah but words of employs do tend to reflect on the company's reputation. You may recall that these "journalists" initially tried to use an employees' alleged sexist remarks to make the game fail. Essentially they wanted to doom the entire company just coz some employee allegedly said something. Which we later find to all be fake and just a move fueled by the usual malice these people have. So yes, while what you say is correct. It simply doesnt reflect reality. If an employee makes a bad take, a company must come out and distance themselves else people will take said opinion as one accepted at the company level.

[@wedgeantilles8575]

Well, if somebody gives me credit that a deeply rcist studio that hates me because of my gnder and skin clr is closed - hey, I take the credit :)

[@Shmandalf]

Blaming the audience you've intentionally tried to ostracize for the failure of your product is becoming way too common. Disney does this too, its asinine.

[@DonsFan56]

The best reply I’ve ever seen to someone attacking consumers for not buying the game due to racism and homophobia.. “the devs aren’t owed success, they owe the consumers a good game to secure their custom, and they didn’t make one”

[@speznazz2501]

The reason why people like fighting Concord so much (me included) because ultimately we want games like this to stop existing

[@Garrus-w2h]

hear hear... Destiny style games died for this

[@nullpoint3346]

@@Garrus-w2h Destiny was one of the worst that _wasn't_ 5v5. Wait, no, that was Destiny 2. Sorry.

[@nunyabizness6376]

The hypocrisy of these people is stunning. They literally antagonize the built-in fanbase of video games at every turn and are confrontational and act off-putting intentionally and then cry and whine, when the people that they want to torment decide to act like they don't even exist. Typical children that never got spankings, and only got put in time out.Whaa whaa whaaa

[@kusog3]

they were literally doing the same thing, kicking down on redfall, so they are indeed big hypocrites

[@matthewlongo6404]

Yep. They attack us all the time. We are all toxic, racist, misogynist etc. But the moment gamers hate on something, we are kicking the poor devs. Read the tweets of these people. They have nothing but contempt for us.

[@LV_427]

Right now the free market is giving them spanking

[@14ElmStreet28]

Who are "they" exactly

[@14ElmStreet28]

@@matthewlongo6404 You do realize that different journalists exist

[@jesustyronechrist2330]

>Me seeing soulless consumer products fail >Me happy

[@somerando8615]

This might sound weird, but I feel like this game was made in anger. Like the art team actively dislikes their customer base and were being spiteful with every artistic choice they made. Even if you don't see it that much in Concord, it's very noticeable in Dustborn.

[@treasurewuji8740]

More like some actual talented devs are cooking this up to blow things up cuz they would rather get the n+1 through being fired than keep working like that

[@team3am149]

Hilarious that PC Gamer themselves do the exact same thing to other games, yet they come out with this piece of hypocrisy when now it’s about something that aligns with their agenda.

[@TheGallantDrake]

It doesn't though, it's hollow and tokenistic. They're just so superficial.

[@matthewlongo6404]

PC gamer gave it a 4 out of 10. So them saying it is insane. People hated on Suicide Squad a ton. PC gamer also danced on Redfalls grave. Also, it was BF5 fortification building system. Ignoring how they basically took the class system out of BF2042 shows this person has no integrity. That was the number one complaint. Also, crouch run, peaking around corners etc, were far bigger omissions.

[@anthonytitone]

Writers under PC gamer r individuals tho. I doubt the dude who wrote this article was celebrating Redfall’s downfall but it would be hypocritical if they were.

[@matthewlongo6404]

@@anthonytitone Call out your own site then. This constant war on gamers is exhausting. I am a Sony fan, if this game had been awesome, I would have played it. But Sony learning a lesson about what gamers actually want, is not a bad thing. This article is bad and purposely omits things, to make the author look intelligent.

[@anthonytitone]

@@matthewlongo6404 I would be happy to hear him call out his own site, tho that’s probably not an easy thing to get by an editor. I also have no problem with celebrating a live service game failing & it can hopefully inform corporate types that gamers don’t want live service games. On the other hand let’s be honest… gamers can be absolutely insufferable, sometimes it’s totally righteous like our crusade against loot boxes, other times it’s not as justifiable. I can’t fault people in the industry for finding us distasteful tho cause plenty of us r extremely close minded, just as an example look at all the complaining over Dragon Age, people lost their minds over a dumb CGI trailer even tho we’ve known for years how little those matter. Then people wanted a certain type of combat & didn’t get it & then they claim that it’s ruined even tho we all know that action, turn based, & real time turn based r all just styles that can be done well & poorly & the quality of the new Dragon Age will come down to its writing & quality of its action combat. I’m not defending the new game since it hasn’t come out & I can’t say how good it’ll be but I will acknowledge how stressful it must be trying to communicate with such an emotionally fickle community with some content creators who r honestly disingenuous in their hype & hate.

[@mstfgnll]

@@anthonytitone gamers are individuals too interestingly but for at least a decade all i see is gamers are r*cist, s-xist, b*gots and all that jazz. I guess it's ok to generalize when you sh*t on gamers but journos... Oh heavens! can someone think about journalists' individualism :((

[@alpsalish]

​@@matthewlongo6404Do you understand how this works? Why wouldn't an outlet write/publish both sides? You get eyeballs from both sides in a very competitive space. Editorials have worked that way for a long time. Some of you are either young or on a learning path because I "pray" it isn't stupidity.

[@johno1544]

Some game journalists would have been overjoyed if Harry Potter or Wukong flopped

[@MordecaiSPM]

I am celebrating this game's downfall not because I follow the trend but because I finally see players vote with their wallets instead of their mouths and empty promises. Finally, players are able to take action. Also let's not forget the massive hypocrisy of game journalists if Wukong flopped, these journalists will celebrate and dance on their downfall.

[@gypruzzcaccamo6586]

Wukong would've only flooped in the west, in China there was literally 0% chance it would've flooped. Chinese players would've played it even if it was utter shit, just because it's about "Journey to the West".

[@nullpoint3346]

@@gypruzzcaccamo6586 I think they need to take a _real_ "Journey to the West", if only so that they don't have to live in China anymore.

[@megamandrn001]

I actually didn't want Concord to fail, or at least not fail this badly, because I wanted Suicide Squad to be the biggest failure. I wanted the absolute worst for everyone involved who turned Rocksteady into the studio that made the worse Avengers. I will own out and out wanting the studio to crash and WB to lose tons of money over what they did. Concord, I just didn't care about, but don't try and gaslight me into thinking I'm not seeing what I'm seeing. The absolute dumbest statement in that article is "I'm sure everyone thinks they'd have the good sense to not release an Avengers or Suicide Squad or Concord or Gotham Knights or Gollum, but it's actually not that easy to determine why one game succeeds and another doesn't". Then why did you list years worth of games that most people in the gaming sphere predicted perfectly would flop months, sometimes years out from release? Apparently it is that easy, man! Here, I'll do it again: Any 5v5 hero shooter from a new IP released in the next 5 years won't do as well as investors think it will. Meanwhile, Bloodborne 2 would destroy Sony's bank accounts with money. There, you're welcome, my consulting fee is 50K since it's so hard to do that.

[@JamesBond77]

Failure is a great teacher my son.😶

[@Entertainment-ev6ob]

Keep the same energy from witcher 4. They said witcher 3 was the last in the series. I hope it’s a gigantic flop.

[@mygamechannel2300]

Sony: It's not our failure; it's the customers' fault. So now, we will increase the PS5 price to make up for the money lost from Concord.

[@cyanicxl00]

@@Entertainment-ev6ob I don't see why you would want them to fail. And to my knowledge, CDPR never confirmed that the next Witcher game will be a sequel to the trilogy. It could easily be a spin off or maybe even a prequel.

[@marducms]

@@cyanicxl00 So they shouldn't use the name witcher 4. If it's not as Geralt as the main, it's already false advertsement.

[@renaudsimard7717]

​@@marducmsHate it when publishers do that. This is just like Final Fantasy XIV. Nothing against the game itself but did they really think that we wouldn't notice that it's an online spinoff and think they can foul us into buying a game that is nothing like we expected?

[@shalindelta7]

Coz enough is enough with the live service goop

[@bigoudiii]

Yeah, I am a hard DC fan since forever. And I was happy to see suicide squad failed.

[@DefaultProphet]

This is one of the first valid comments I’ve seen. Live service is infinite growth for gaming and both are bunk

[@kenaistar1616]

Yeah i hope we dont get gta6 online. They are so greedy

[@animelytical8354]

People are "Happy" because they thought they could make something nobody wanted and still succeed. People are just vindicated.

[@brandonlee5339]

All the Concord character designs look like the hockey-pad imposters from Batman. They look like they're poorly mimicking an actual hero with whatever was lying around the house

[@raptorface2810]

Generic human man looks like he got called into battle halfway through making his cosplay

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

That is a iconic scene, lol I DON'TWEER HOCKEPAAADS *really gruff voice*

[@Gogo32monkey]

Quite simply, people are happy because they don't want this kind of game and the more games like this fail, the more likely these companies will go back to making what we actually want. It won't happen overnight, but it's a step in the right direction.

[@nullpoint3346]

It'll get worse before it gets better. They'll double down on in game monetization along with all the other methods of extortion before the shareholders with brain cells finally realize that infinite money printers simply don't exist in a world where money has value. Then again, I always say money doesn't have value, so they might be on to something if they move to a different industry.

[@Gavhouse]

The elf in Witcher 3 is a crossdresser not trans and says he's straight, also geralt is weirded out by it, also it's the only thing in a 100+ hour game. Big difference to what we're getting today

[@edubs9828]

I agree. Also the fact that it wasn't an issue illustrates that people don't like identity politics being stamped into a game.

[@lucidjar]

What is this based on, not fanfiction I hope? Everything I can recall from the game about Elihal, what little that is relevant, such as the pronoun used to describe Elihal (her) is either not supportive or in contradiction with this claim.

[@DefaultProphet]

The only thing? Lol

[@Gavhouse]

@@lucidjar The interaction we get between him and geralt, he's questioned if anything happened between him and Dandelion and his response is he doesn't like men, what he says he likes dressing as different people, backstreet thug for example and where are you getting his pronoun from?

[@lucidjar]

​@@Gavhouse Ah, I was primarily objecting to the claim that he states he is straight, which is a weird phrasing in the context of a fantasy setting. As for the used pronoun, in an entry Dandelion still insists on writing about Elihal as a she. There is also at least one other gendernorms-non-conforming individual (well, from our perspective since in a world with magic and polymorph magic, even if dangerous, these things will not be as rigid). I just don't think our sensibilities transfer to that world. In a very similar way in which they won't make sense in 30 years. When regenerative medicine and organ printing will have advanced to the point where being who you want to be will not take much more effort than cross-dressing. Notice that in such a fluid world, preferences would need to extend to distinguish between whether they care about primary vs temporary states when saying what they are not into. Oh also, I apologize for saying fan-fiction, that was uncalled for and against my better judgment.

[@majormetcalf1225]

They had 8 years to realize what they were doing was a bad idea. Sucks for the employees but I’m always happy to see bad trends crash.

[@michaelpettersson4919]

It would not suprise me if they lost talent during those eight years. Smart people that left before they got associated with failure.

[@majormetcalf1225]

@@michaelpettersson4919 that could totally have happened

[@fawkesandhound]

I judge books by their covers because that’s exactly what the cover is for. When the back cover says, “we hate you and your politics and your values and here’s a big pile of everything contrary to you”- then yeah, I’m happy to dance on its grave as it validates that maybe, maybe things are changing for the better.

[@jonnyxquest]

It's not complicated, gamers have felt that these studios have been hostile to gamers for a while now. The dev calling people "talentless freaks" comes to mind, not to mention the attacks from "games journalists". So gamers are voting with their wallets now, and seeing the game fail tells them that they aren't alone in feeling this way, that they are in fact the majority. The hope ultimately is that these companies will pull their heads from their asses and actually make the games that their paying customers want. Yes gamers are enjoying a bit of schadenfreude, but after years of being called "toxic" and "racist" just because we didn't want to play a game, I'd say it's deserved.

[@activemessiah]

There's no "giving it a chance"... when you buy a game, you automatically support it, your opinion about it after buying it is null and void. The only way is to either support and buy or don't buy and avoid... there's no middle ground.

[@the_articulated_artist]

That argument makes no sense, how can you have an opinion on a game you don’t even play?

[@MelAncholynus]

There is, sort of. You could borrow it, rent or buy used. Assuming it has a physical release.

[@activemessiah]

@@the_articulated_artist You can clearly see something isn't good just by looking at it... Your gaming experience/knowledge kicks in to tell something is just pants. This is why gameplay reveals are important rather than CG based trailers. I'm not a fan of Day 1 buying of games due to bugs... be patient, just watch gameplay or even find a demo if available and then decide. It's really not that complicated. Just know that once you buy something, they have your money and your opinion doesn't matter from hence forth.

[@the_articulated_artist]

@@activemessiah I don’t think you can say an opinion doesn’t matter after you buy a game. That’s basically crapping on gaming journalism and reviewers and saying their work doesn’t matter. I just don’t think you can be so black and white about this topic. It’s that simple

[@activemessiah]

@@the_articulated_artist NOBODY should EVER listen to gaming journalists... and a review is simply an opinion, nothing more.

[@kyledugan9563]

I just like seeing corporations lose money.

[@jake51515]

Not very bright thing to say seeing as how corporations are the reason any product exists

[@AverageJoe483]

But … you’re using KZbin

[@cntssv]

Disable ads and trackers

[@jake51515]

Not a bright thing to say seeing as how corporations are the only reason products exist in the first place.

[@jake51515]

​@@AverageJoe483NPC thought. Hes just tryna sound edgy for the internet.

[@LahLahMan]

I'm really tired of people saying "PoOr DevS." Sony didn't decide to put pronouns in the game, Sony didn't decide on that TERRIBLE character presentation and boring slow game design. Seriously f the devs, they milked Sony for 8 years, now Sony has to eat the loss. Let the devs go fail upwards now and ruin another game in another studio.

[@AzureFides]

Seriously if someone stupid enough to hire those directors and lead character designers again they deserve to lose all money they have. Saddest thing is they will somehow get hired again.

[@SIPEROTH]

Exactly! This guys wanted this game. Sony didn't force them to make it. Sony was just brainless enough to actually believe them that they had something good.

[@MinosML]

Oh no poor billion dollar corporation 😭😭😭 Nah man, Sony getting the L is also great to see, don't choke in that boot

[@SIPEROTH]

@@MinosML I think you miss the point. It wasn't about defending Sony or feeling sorry for them. Is about stop feeling sorry for this devs and crying when they lose their jobs.

[@MinosML]

@@SIPEROTH fair enough, I also think people give the devs too much of a pass sometimes The entire upper to middle management in this game is at fault for this disaster too, I'd say

[@MordecaiandMonroe]

the guy in witcher was just an elf who liked dressing up as a lady, wasnt political at all

[@marcusclark1339]

i doubt he did research enough to know this subtlety is a lost art

[@dianhyouvideo]

That's enough reason to cancel this for having lisbon content.

[@spaghettisploitation1029]

​@@dianhyouvideo An elf from Lisbon?

[@dianhyouvideo]

@@spaghettisploitation1029 Lisbon yes... 😉

[@jibjibs9401]

Plenty political for the modern reactionary right who will nitpick anything if it serves a narrative

[@brandonmclean58]

Well as someone who owns a playstation, it sucks to think about all the games we arn't getting and instead this is what they thought was important. They arn't giving us days gone 2, no last of us, they didnt even try with the VR thing that I was really hyped about. So seeing this ship go down in a blaze gives us a bit to celebrate about as maybe now sony will go back to giving us what we actually wanted, or not, probably not.

[@swankyluchador]

U didn't even mention a bloodborne remaster or at the very least a 60 fps update😭 literally all I want, I will pay 70 for that game again even if all they did was a 60 fps upgrade

[@paulatreides77]

Gamergate started an "Us vs. Them" mentality (bolstered by toxic social media) with "gamers" on one side and developers with mainstream games media on the other. After that time, game developers seem to be making games for each other and the games media (or some nonexistent "modern audience") rather than for their actual paying audience due to a weird need to explicitly NOT cater to the people who are paying them. Over the past few years, gamers realized that as these big companies kept putting out hot trash game after hot trash game - undercooked, unfinished and littered with microtransactions - that they were being used for their money by an industry which had long since stopped making games for them. Why was "Skull & Bones," a supposed AAAA top-tier production, worse than the 11-year old game which inspired it? Why did "Overwatch," which started strong and unfortunately got the industry hooked on micro-transactions in full-priced games, not invest all of that loot box money back into the game and keep it going for years with fresh content like heroes, maps and modes ad infinitum? And, now, how does a game studio take 8 years to put out something like "Concord," which is so out-of-touch that it feels like the gaming personification of "How do you do, fellow kids...?" The celebration over Concord's failure is part of an outcry from gamers that game publishers need to start listening to gamers again and push out all of the garbage executives, creatives and developers causing their studios to churn out flop after flop. Yes, Concord made itself an easy target with some derivative and laughable art choices and highly visible pronouns in character bios, but it still is just another symbol of Jim Ryan's massively misguided push into live service games with little to offer, and the celebration over Concord's demise is more a feeling that gamers might get their own hobby back soon enough rather than an "F you in particular" target of ridicule. Until then, independent games are where modern gaming is really at now. The best experiences I have had in several years in gaming have been with small studio games - Death Must Die, Black Myth: Wukong, Fields of Mistria, Vampire Survivors, and plenty of others - and I encourage others to eschew games like Concord for these gems until the big gaming companies get their acts together.

[@nullpoint3346]

BM:W is from a small studio?

[@TriforcePlayer2]

If Witcher 3 couldnt be released today neither could Baldurs gate. Its how you do it

[@gypruzzcaccamo6586]

BG3. Don't forget the "3". You used it for The Witcher, use it for BG, too.

[@i999ok]

Maybe because they have so many devs and journalists shitting on the gamers?

[@Rawdawg316]

Where were you at? People were happy that Suicide Squad failed

[@gottinrod]

Lets be honest here and outright say it: if at least 3 or 4 if those characters were beautiful busty women with sexy outfits this game would have had a 10x playerbase at least. People like looking at pretty characters, just swallow the pill and sell what they like.

[@cirescythe]

Or cool or intimidating or edgy chars. Where are the sinister aliens or combat cyborgs at?

[@Rxuwww]

Fr and I’ll never understand why that upsets people too

[@dargis49]

Seems like people are always happy when an Xbox game fails though. I guess it's ok for PCGamer to shit all over Xbox games when they fail, but it's not okay to shit on PlayStation games when they fail.

[@JordanRA]

The hypocrisy in the industry is insane

[@TheOnlyTaps]

I think it's just coz so many corporations waste millions on things that nobody asked for. So even if it's movies or music, or even tech products if something has no target audience and still goes on to sink millions into an idea and go through with it at that point it's like bruh you could have saved millions and done something that had a target audience and saved yourself the millions.

[@TheOnlyTaps]

*It's essentially an unsustainable model and the games industry will continue to eat itself the more and more they keep chasing these live service cash cows coz in the same breathe they continue to lay people off and yet the owners and execs are still raking in millions so the only way to give a signal to those companies that they're making the wrong products is seeing their bottom line drop. Essentially people finally speaking with their wallets rather than continuing to fuel these endless chases. Make good games and they will sell well. Make bad games and they will sell poorly.

[@TheOnlyTaps]

*Especially sad coz the actual devs that put their heart and soul into the games are the first ones that get cut when these things fail so the studios and corporations are still somewhat safe which is annoying coz rather than pay their employees they'll end up laying off employees in a heartbeat. So hopefully the more studios learn the more they actually start meeting that sustainable middle ground coz not every game needs to be big budget make or break for the studios but they put themselves into these positions

[@TheOnlyTaps]

*Hopefully Sony got the message. Coz they basically burnt money by pursuing those 12 live service titles they wanted to launch and we haven't even reached half of them and only Helldiver's 2 was a hit so it's not really gonna have paid off for them.

[@ed61730]

Sony has been failing upwards recently

[@TheOnlyTaps]

@@ed61730 💯 Yeah hopefully in this case they read all the signals. Coz it's not even that they shouldn't try live service games, but they shouldn't sink millions into these live service titles when they have such a plethora of dope multiplayer IP shelved that they could have easily released as smaller cheaper standalone games and they'd probably have made way more. So it would have both benefited their pockets but also benefited the customers. Like Factions 2 is one of the big examples. Coz that game didn't need to be developed as a liver service then binned. All they had to do was take the formula they did on the original Factions, then just make it bigger with the new maps and mechanics from TLOU2 and they could have easily attached that as a free to play game alongside TLOU2 and probably monetized the crap out of it but they'd both gain people who maybe don't like single player but want to see how TLOU plays in multiplayer then they'd also gain people who already bought TLOU2 to probably spend on micro transactions on cosmetics in that game. Likewise their new game they are developing with Guerilla for Horizon could also have just been a standalone game free and attached to Horizon Forbidden West and all of those types of endeavours including other old IP that's currently shelved would have been cheaper than sinking millions into 12 live service titles where maybe like 3 or 4 will survive and the rest will be DOA 😂. Even if they wanted to do cash grabs they got so many franchises like Jak and Daxter and several classics that could be remade for a new audience the way that for example Capcom has done with their remakes etc because there's an obvious market for those and when they are done well the customers we buy like crazy. Basically so many straightforward market opportunities they keep leaving on the table and instead choose to sink millions and millions into titles that are gonna have a high expenditure and low return and continue to cause layoffs. Such a weird use of resources from them. And like Luke was mentioning in the video they are sadly gambling with the livelihood of many workers coz at the end of the day these execs still sleep comfy in their mansions while the average worker and dev is the one that feels the brunt of everything from layoffs to the social media outrage etc

[@VindensSaga]

My only problem with Concord is that it is/was chasing a trend that that was new back in 2016? 2017? it is time to move on.

[@TheEffectOfMass]

That's what happens when it takes 8 years to make a game. Almost anything is out of date at that rate.

[@Zellio2011]

Metal gear was 'political'. Is it out of date or timeless?

[@shalindelta7]

​@Zellio2011 political topics aren't a problem, It's the intention behind them. Is it forced or is it beneficial towards a greater story narrative ? That's how you determine a good or bad use of politics.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

@@TheEffectOfMass Yep. FF16 is a good example, they copied the Game of Thrones "dark" tone, but they only arrived 4 years late to the party, everybody moved on from GoT and the blatant "inspiration" was ridiculed by some, instead of being something cool. Prince of Persia Warrior Within will be forever dated as the "emo Prince", the recent Prince of Persia Lost Crown will also be forever dated with it's "inclusive" protagonist + killmonger haircut (the MCU influence), etc.. dated products can retain some charm, but most of the time they just look dumb. I heard a Simple Plan song recently, how the hell my generation enjoyed that crap?

[@Chrisg93]

A good metric for ps players is check trophies unlocked. Around 1500 have at least got one kill. Also it’s pathetic that player count could be down to people unlocking rare trophies because it’ll be an exclusive club to get the plat.

[@kieran5476]

For some reason i really enjoy these concord videos 😂

[@CastisV]

This whole generation has been a gigantic fail for both companies.

[@shalindelta7]

Nah don't do that, don't lump everything together instead of singling out real problem, that doesn't help anything. Sony had their fails for the gen but in no way is the ps5 a failure.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

It's the sad truth, the PS5 generation is being super weak thus far. Baldur's Gate 3 is a really big deal, arguably the greatest rpg ever made (regardless of subgenres), but if you look at the whole picture, the super slow production (Forbidden West, a direct sequel, it took SIX YEARS to be made), the $70 price tag and the proliferation of "game as a service", it really sucks

[@oddjob914]

@@shalindelta7 PS5 is a failure in my opinion. Spent $500 just to play Spider-man 2. Were four years in. Name 5 good PS5 exclusive games and I'll buy a second PS5.

[@EsteBahia]

​@@oddjob914that sounds like a you problem. There are a lot of games to play. Try broadening your library.

[@nullpoint3346]

@@oddjob914 It'll cost you 700USD, and that's if you don't get scalped.

[@magnummer]

-Live service in a time when that name is almost as hated as NFTs -40 bucks -Hero shooter that couldn't be more generic if it tried -Not a single sexy character. In fact, some are repulsive to an extreme -Quirky "its right behind me, isn't it?" millennial writing style That game (alongside others like suicide squad), represent everything plaguing the industry currently.

[@ShinjiIkari007]

As if game journalists don't try to make a game fail or celebrate if it's doesn't sell well. Yeah we haven't seen that before, right? Gamers celebrating a game failing literally translates to "you went with a value proposition to the customers, your customers already warned you they didn't like it they made their preferences very very clear, yet you chose to ignore all of the costumer wants & said I'll do it my way & tried to appease like 1% of the market & failed miserably". So why wouldn't the vast majority of customers celebrate? Your game failing means your ideology lost & the customer's ideology won. Failure will deter other studios from making the mistakes you made & it will in turn benefit the customers in the long run since they will get what they wanted It's free market economy, people who give consumers what they want become successful, those who don't fade into oblivion. Also it's free speech we live in a free country if I don't like a game & the game devs hate me & call me names for not buying their trash, I'm free to mock their trash when it fails

[@parrk75]

I disagree. How much of Overwatch player counts could be traced (at least from an initial interest perspective) to the work of StudioFOW? The guys at concord created a game with not a single character that has any rule 34 appeal. There is an actual example of how that is forfeiting one of the biggest drivers of interest, and for what? Why? Who benefits from ugly characters? who wins from that cringe? Even an obese PoC Lesbian will want to play as a hot PoC lesbian. What do they think fantasy is for?

[@tni333]

Nobody was talking crap about suicide squad? Have you been living under a rock or something? 😂

[@aidancoutts2341]

NOBODY WAS GIVING SUICIDE SQUAD CRAP?! I'm sorry but no. Everyone wanted it to fail because it was a greedy live service we got instead of an Arkham game or a superman game.

[@_Depka]

Why? Because for whatever reason game companies want to force political agendas down gamers’s throat instead of delivering good games.

[@ArcangelGamingEntertainment]

Make a game for 1% of the population, get 1% of the players.

[@nicodemous52]

For my part, because this will be the best example to the industry at large. STOP IT! If your game is truly diverse, you don't need to tell us in the marketing, we'll notice when we are in the game. If the whole point was to say it in the marketing. THAT is what we are sick of. THAT is what we want to see destroyed.

[@ewanfraser]

In response to that article- Cope and Seethe

[@burningxdagger]

I just love it when pretentious assholes tell us what we want, and then get the rudest awakening as they are promptly humbled

[@ShadowAkatora]

"out of touch, creatively bankrupt executives are cynically chasing trends" Well, literally that would be my guess.

[@SharpsPanda]

Concord doesn't have to worry about ugly characters now that Star Wars Outlaw faces hit the scene.

[@shalindelta7]

Ugly characters sure, but boring uninspired character design nonetheless.

[@frankieb9444]

The MC in Outlaws should be demanding sugar water in every cut-scene

[@Jthanson88]

Star Wars outlaw has nothing to do with it. Concord doesn’t have to worry about ugly characters because concord is dead 😂

[@bdelsouza]

come on, we ALL KNOW why it failed, but somehow it's problematic to address the elephant in the room.

[@nag_xo]

lol and it's literally an ugly elephant

[@khanhnguyen-tt3ff]

It elephants lol cause there alot of problem with the game

[@thebutterflyking]

The pink, diverse, hella gay, transgender elephant in the room lol

[@albert2006xp]

Because people ignore all the many bad ideas that led the game to this point to focus on the one elephant they want to focus. Spoiler: because they're bigots and they belong in Russia.

[@albert2006xp]

@@khanhnguyen-tt3ff We know why certain people would prefer to focus on the elephant they want to promote as the reason.

[@josephjohnphillips2535]

I genuinely believe a peanut could have told Sony that Concord would not sell well

[@ThePowerOfOneThePowerOfTwo]

The one game that did sell (helldivers 2) they tried to kill it off at the height of it's medteoric rise. And then they push out this game that nobody wanted. All of a sudden Sony taking hard Ls just seems so common lol

[@nickstadler919]

I'll die on this horse. "Live service" is corporate speak for "unfinished"

[@ByakkoSL]

Why i am happy ? Easy. I don't want to see ugly characters, these journos and twitter/x mob like to accuse people "oh you just hate black character" or "oh you need to touch grass, because this is real people like" Well yeah, the thing is i don't need realism design, i just want the character look interesting, cool, beautiful, handsome, etc.

[@Rxuwww]

☝️

[@HimePenguin]

Major games journalism is so weird. In no other industry will you find journalists so vehemently shield the companies while lashing out against the customers.

[@ClapperDan]

"The eagerness to grave dance on unpopular games" is largely due to gamers dissatisfactions with the AAA games sector as it pertains with the heavy leaning toward live service games. If you put Concord, Suicide Squad, and Redfall side by side and ask all gamers regardless of platform if they are happy that these 3 particular game failed to achieve success, most folks would say "yes" in some fashion. They would say yes, because that's player sentiment toward live service titles. People are getting tired of games that demand our time and demand our money but we can't demand better of these game or the people who make them a are largely not getting better,. Concord is about 8 years behind, horribly balanced, and very bland. Redfall was absolute shite on a pike in terms of overall "qwalatay" . Suicide Squad betrays the passion and insults the intelligences of fans of the Arkham Series by going polar opposite of what anyone would have reasonably expected of the game. And these games were all paid games, Suicide Squad being the biggest offender here. Hellblade 2, say what you will but I paid for that game, and I felt I got my moneys worth of what was handed to me. I'd never pay for Redfall, Suicide Squad, or Concord because what the game gives you is not worth the price, when there are free games that even looking at the launch, offered more.

[@xenolithic9691]

No one was giving Kill the Justice League crap? My guy you have hours and hours of videos doing just that. And it deserved it.

[@Egurius3]

Because it's a way to show the big publishers that we don't want or need constant supply of live-service games.

[@dantealighieri4543]

Concord is probably receiving special treatment because it's a PlayStation title, that's it, this is not about defending a game because of its "diverse and charming characters" but *protecting the multimillion dollar company because otherwise we won't get insider privilege.* That's why we see so many videogame media outlets making this PR articles as if this game would be any good.

[@mikelitten7489]

You’re a good person and an innocent soul Luke. You’re not enmeshed in the culture war, that’s the whole issue. We’re not going to be forced into affirmation or submission to “the modern audience”. The cheering is because it’s a victory in what sometimes feels like a losing war.

[@bdelsouza]

he just pretends to not engage in it

[@vercoda9997]

What the hell is 'the modern audience'? Is that some oblique way of saying that, for example, you resent seeing gay characters in games? Better female characters? Go on. Edit. Never mind. I see you complaining elsewhere that you're not allowed to be homophobic about Pride. I knew *exactly* what you meant when you started using daft words like 'submission' and 'modern audience'. I see *exactly* what kind of person you are.

[@vercoda9997]

​@@bdelsouzaMike above is busy whining elsewhere that he can't be homophobic about Pride. That's the calibre of person that he is.

[@65firered]

"innocent"

[@mikelitten7489]

@@vercoda9997 Phobia is a fear. Why would I be afraid of a small group of people that self deletes in record numbers because of imagined persecution and mental illness? I say what I want, whenever I want, about whomever I want. That’s the benefit of being a citizen instead of a subject. You’re dismissed peasant.

[@mrthewhite2620]

Concord is basically asking players to buy 2 battle passes up front so they can pretend they're giving you that content for "free". Guarantee in 6 month to a year, their cosmetics store will be stocked, and they'd be selling battle passes on top of it.

[@fuzzytaco206]

I would say people are happy because it stands for and represents everything that is currently wrong with the industry. It is unoriginal, corporate forced, no love put into it, and just plain modern message drivel. *Edit - also the developers have zero love for people who play games, and when there is creative criticism, they just ignore it and bash them.

[@the_articulated_artist]

“Modern message”?

[@albert2006xp]

@@the_articulated_artist Anything that doesn't align with their 1800s values.

[@bwhere45]

@@albert2006xp no you're right, a robot needs pronouns. What would we do without the guidance of such enlightenment?

[@the_articulated_artist]

@@bwhere45 if you’re that concerned and scared over pronouns in a videogame then I don’t know what to tell ya, bud.

[@glens2019]

@@the_articulated_artist Why aren't you? This whole pronoun thing is based on the pseudoscience of a sexual predator that raised boys as girls due to a botched circumcision and they ended up game ending themselves. Flat Earthers aren't hurting anyone but I'm well within my right to tell them that's nonsense and leave their presence media in obscurity.

[@realdoomerhours]

Another point the author misses regarding Battlefield 2042 is those lists weren't compiled because players necessarily wanted all those features, it was meant to illustrate how little you're getting for your money compared to what you used to get. It's a common complaint about many modern games: we're expected to pay more money for less content (and often a game that barely works at launch).

[@Shaiandra]

I don't typically root for games to fail, but the Concord situation amuses me since every single thing about its design seems like a huge mistake. Charging $40 when the giant competitors in a saturated genre are free? Big mistake. Especially with a new company and IP? How incredibly bold. And of all the possible styles of games, it's team-based PvP, which requires a substantial playerbase or no one gets to play at all. Then there are the character designs, and to top it all off, the game requires a PSN account, thus limiting the countries that can play.. So in my opinion it was shaping up to be the epitome of "how not to make a game", and yep..

[@vantagepointwithkeli]

We are not dancing on the graves of dead games. We are dancing on the grave of this undead ideology that brings to life hateful caricatures under the guise of inclusion. I''m doing the samba. You?

[@supercanuck]

I'm sure PC Gamer immediately published a similar article protesting the treatment of Wukong devs. Oddly, I can't find it though 🤔

[@BloodyyPenguin]

Nah. When the devs go on Twitter and call us freaks for not liking the game they deserve this. There are more pronouns than players for that game. Game devs are getting very comfortable with going online and talking crap to the people who have the power of money. Things are changing.

[@Mikx100]

Yeah they come out of their echo chamber and they cry when reality puts them in their place.

[@RS-nb4sw]

People don't grave-dance on a particular game because they hate the game in particular. They didn't play it, so they don't actually care one way or the other whether it fails. They grave-dance because they were CORRECT that it would fail. There are a lot of people grave-dancing on Concord because: 1) It was easy to predict that the game would fail, so many people did so and are happy to be correct. (It's not bandwagoning when it's obvious.) 2) People (particularly the journalist class to which the writer of this laughable article belongs) insulted the public and fans of the genre in general when they looked at the promotional material and said, "This game will fail." No one takes games journalists in any way seriously anymore, and if you ask yourself why that is, the only reasonable answer is that the journalists don't represent gamers as a group and their opinions are therefore valueless. This is also why they're doing so poorly financially. These outlets would do much better if they would hire gamers who can write a little to do reviews instead of journalists who game a little. Nobody cares about how well-written your stupid article is. They care about whether you're genuine. I don't care how well the writer of an article about a game understands English -- I care about how well they understand GAMES.

[@noahgolden-cv1pc]

Watching this game fail is like watching your annoying spoiled younger sibling getting disciplined for their shitty behavior.

[@bilson7523]

Holy crap this was a stupidly pretentious article. Its not that complicated PC Gamer: The game isn't that great AND the devs are a-holes.

[@goufr3540]

Its a good thing I have long become apathetic to modern game devs, studios and publishers. No matter how much they poor into a product, if it turns out to be shit, then its shit. They earn their failures and as such, its their fault if they get layoff or shut down. Just to a point that I have no sympathy for any of their BS and such, do not care what happens to any of them, since everything was long self-inflicted. The exact same can be applied to Game Journos to, either it be PC Gamer, Kotaku, IGN and so forth, as they are usually no better if not even worse than the studios they shill for.

[@Tyrannosaur6265]

I dont just grave dance I hit the absolute nastiest crip-walk humanly possible when I hear that a billion dollar studio lost hundreds of millions of dollars paying teams to make a giant flop

[@waltervanlille2263]

They cram modern games with "progressive" politics, engage in tons and tons of predatory, greedy practices, and consistently release sub-par product. I feel joy when triple A titles such as Concord, which is basically a poster child for all of these issues fail, because it looks like the only way to force these companies to realise that they're going the wrong way.

[@LostWallet]

this is what they get for trying to make games based on twitter’s poles.

[@weavatronobservatory]

They’re glad it failed because if it were successful it would incentivize more companies to make more games like this. It pumps the breaks on any potential trash fires to come, makes developers reevaluate what they want to make and their intentions behind art direction, being more subtle with their message, gameplay and what people are wanting to play. 8 years and no one spoke up.

[@makani9004]

Just wait till Marathon. That will be a feast for the ages.

[@jawsofwar]

Only people surprised are game journalists that this game failed - most people that saw the Sony presentation were “no thanks”. Credit for Luke being one of those.

[@ThaKoalaKing]

If a game journalist says to do something it's only right to do the exact opposite.

[@simonfinch9277]

Battlefield 1 does not have a fortification building system. I am a active BF1 player and that statement at 22:55 is a straight up lie. Game "Journalist" doesn't know his video games. How typical. Yeah that guy never saw anyone build fortifications in bf1 because it was not a feature.

[@tjrage6168]

Let's this be a wake up call to the devs

[@PytorDukiv]

"It's flopped cause it's expensive" isn't a compelling argument and the fact people are trotting this out now is pure damage control. 10+ million people paid more for Wukong than this. "F2P players won't buy it!" isn't true as Helldivers showed. What is the difference between HD2 and Concord? Not price, not overall style, but design. Concord failed because it's designed poorly and you can't get past that without addressing the ugly characters and the leftist context of the studio as demonstrated by many of the devs.

[@joes4987]

The studios, the devs, journalists, they all forget one thing, WE decide what is successful and what isnt. Look at the end of this summer, Black Myth Wukong, 10 millions copies sold in 3 days, Concord i have no clue what sony was thinking, $200 million is a massive hit. The last few months, the studios were reminded who's in charge, us the gamers. Sony needs to reevaluate itself, and stick to what they know and what they are good at.

[@oopomopoo]

Basically the same reason society would be happy when blizzard games flop. Also the same reason the "journalists" would be so jubilant if wukong had failed, even though their whole narrative was literally intentional misinformation and with this game, there are several reasons why players aren't happy with it.

[@AverageJoe483]

Because it will finally spark a change in this industry

[@theFORZA66]

On one hand im sad cause i hate seeing people fail but on the other hand im ecstatic cause this is exactly the kinda thing that needs to fail for the mental sanity of our society

[@ed61730]

People are happy cause Sony HAS CLOSED A LOT of amazing studios recently. Games such as Wipeout would have made the perfect live service game.

[@jeremysumpter8939]

You might want to dance around the fact people revolted because of its politics but we gamers did not. We are tired of it and this games failure showed it.