This Is An Ubisoft Developer's NIGHTMARE

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Star Wars Outlaws asks advanced access players to restart their game, Warcraft implements a needed but awkward nerf, and even the best of games can't resist. Advanced access is here to stay, but that doesn't mean players will like it, and it means even more pressure placed on already stretched thin engineering teams.

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[@apollomars1678]

the early access system is just a method of the company to gatekeep the reviews and walk-throughs explicit on KZbin. You don't want to have independent people play your game at the first days. You want to have the sponsored gifted idiots to make the propaganda in the first days, while the actual reviewers will NOT get revenue out of promoting a game, that costed for them 150€ to buy them. So they will wait or ignore the game. The actual gamers buy the game in a sale and laugh about the idiots, who bought the buggy games at the start. There are Zero Gamers playing the game. Reporters, blind supporters, some unfortunate idiots and paid propaganda is playing this game in these days.

[@natel7382]

It will never stop because there is no downside. They don't lose money regardless, and most consumers are brain dead zombies that just need to consume consume consume.

[@TheJoker-gg8hc]

If I wanna learn how to program, I'm perfectly capable of finding the information on my own. All YOU need to worry about is "star wars outlaws". Your own goddamn channel guidelines say "stick to the subject" and here you are trying to sell us something. I didn't come here for fucking telemarketing.

[@Chris-ib8oi]

@@TheJoker-gg8hc hey man that's a pretty weird comment in response to an ad copy.

[@ChristmasLore]

The Jimmy Neutron haircut is even scarier. Time to shave it all, dude.

[@0taku912]

Why pay for QA testers when Ubisoft charging $110 to playtest their games

[@johnwrath3612]

3 days before launch isn’t a play test it’s cheap FOMO advertising

[@SaHaRaSquad]

​@@johnwrath3612 It's both. Slow incremental rollouts of releases/updates is a common practice. Windows has this too with the Insider program. The difference is that some gamers actually pay for being testers of the final release candidate.

[@wardy4903]

@johnwrath3612 be honest. This game is buggy and will be receiving patch fixes for months. If you bought a ubisoft game at release you are playtesting.

[@riotman3579]

Ubisoft CEO: brilliant get this man a higher position on greedy tactics on monetization!

[@blarghmcblarghson1903]

The way a lot of AAA games are these days, feels like people are paying to be playtesters if they buy anywhere within a month of release. At this point it shouldn't be "don't preorder", but rather "wait a month after launch for bugs to be fixed and to see if they sneak in microtransactions".

[@db.1304]

Anyone still giving Ubisoft money for early access / pre-purchase deserves whatever mess they get.

[@WhiteWolf601]

Anyone still giving Ubisoft money -for early access / pre-purchase- deserves whatever mess they get. FTFY

[@Pwnopolis]

Dont give anyone pay before the work. Its a huge red flag when people want payment before the job.

[@LameMule]

You can stop at "Anyone still giving Ubisoft money" and your point still applies perfectly.

[@carpathianhermit7228]

you dont give ya dealer money before seeing the droogs

[@krodmandoon3479]

Words 6-9 aren't necessary.

[@rawesome1540]

I don't know why people are surprised, it's Ubisoft.

[@TurKlack]

Agreed.

[@ferociouzmonk]

Ubishit

[@notladnstuff7976]

@@ferociouzmonk ubislop

[@y8happy]

Genuinely. I've started just blacklisting/blocking company's like Ubisoft on steam because I know the game is going to be a half finished, un-polished game that wants to nickel and dime me into oblivion instead of be a good game first and foremost.

[@inquisition3173]

I don't know why people are surprised, it's Ubisoft. Its preorder bullshit. Its a Star Wars Game from Disney. And its AAA.*********** Literally RED FLAG the Game. Yes, I hoped it would be good. But im also not stupid and know not to give them a single dime until I know its good.

[@hellokatyfac3]

6:55 "How did we get here?" - Easy. Ubisoft has been doing this sort of garbage for *YEARS*. Anyone who doesn't expect it or is blindsided by it by now gets what they deserve. Every year they pull this, and every year people keep buying and buying. They'll scream and yell "How dare they! I 'm not buying another ubisoft game ever!" but then they see the new game and preorder immediately. Asmongold was right- "95% of people are one three-minute trailer away from their boycott being over."

[@Verboten_Joey]

Why don't they just wait until post launch reviews? There are plenty of other games to play while you wait. The preorder bonuses are just baiting you into taking a gamble, they don't offer much value. Unless that developer/publisher has consistently released polished products there's no reason to preorder.

[@PDVism]

@@Verboten_Joey Short answer : FOMO Long answer, because there is one born every minute. Being able to play a game a few days earlier make them feel like a big boy, that plus having a cosmetic that those that don't pre-order won't have, or having some 5 minute 'mission' that others won't have... not until the GOTY edition 10 months later.. is deemed important by those that do. Don't forget that lots of gamers would gladly pay for a special function in a game that just declares them a winner even if it would just be an in game button that they simply can press.

[@zotaninoron3548]

@@Verboten_Joey There is the fact that it is not a static market and it can take a few burns to learn your lesson. And every year there is a fresh crop of folks needing to learn the lesson all over again because they just aged into the bracket of buying their own games. It doesn't need to be 95% or even 50% its a win if only like 5 to 10% spend extra money on basically nothing.

[@renendell]

I'm good with not buying it.

[@puntacana7550]

Its a feat for gaming in 2024. Good job 👍

[@ChadGarion25]

How does one buy what one cannot own? These are the big questions Ubisoft are happy to let blow up in their faces. Who am I to stop them from showing the world the naked greed of modern unregulated omni corpos.

[@aj.j5833]

You have a very rare skill for gamers.

[@TetsuNideji]

I'm good with not owning it. Since Ubisoft wants us to be comfortable with not owning it, I don't want it to begin with. :^)

[@neutchain7838]

Yep, I've gotten quite comfortable not owning Ubisift games. Let's be honest here, they're not worth pirating them either. Ubisift is successfully defeating the whole concept of pirating games by releasing one train wreck after another. Gotta admit, it works lol.

[@silverwing4153]

The "games are complicated " argument never flies with me. Cars are complicated, and if the engine explodes on my car im not accepting "well cars are complicated." As an excuse. Same with any product.

[@TheRawrnstuff]

Agree with the sentiment, but counterpoint: Cars are not complicated. Unless they're actually more like a computer on wheels, I guess. Games at this scale are way more complicated than cars. That said, yeah, if the price to buy-in hovers around $70 - not to mention $120 - that should bloody well be thoroughly QA tested and bugs squished so it meets the expectations. The big publishers keep releasing non-finished games that don't provide a premium experience, while asking for me to pay premium quality price for them, so I'm not buying. They can't convince me bread is supposed to be sold moldy and fixed later.

[@ni9274]

Did the game explode on people ? They just had to restart a save, also you pay a car 10.000€ and you have insurance. Also video games are far more complicated than cars, this isn’t a good comparaison.

[@Alsemenor]

@@ni9274 Well, we still expect the game to function, right? Not be a bug-riddled mess. A car is a complicated construction which is expected to function properly. How bad must it be for us to be allowed to complain properly?

[@jman72898]

@@ni9274shut up

[@Tamachii12]

@@ni9274 Cars are complicated though, try building one from the scratch...

[@Svafne]

The best time to buy a modern AAA game is a year after the official release when it's on sale and actually finished x'D Our timeline is a sad joke..

[@KPX01]

yup on top of having it on sale buying it later would almost guaranty a much better experience

[@chiprahn]

A wise man once said "When you buy a game on release, you're paying the most amount of money for the worst version of a game."

[@leramar]

So true.

[@MrB00ni]

Right, i just finished shadow of war. Every payed crap is dropped and a free update. Can totally agree with just playing the waiting game

[@SuperZura91]

Don't worry, the big publishers know this. They sell their games at a way higher price than the game is worth, this way even after a discount the price is still good for them. Example with Ubisoft, their games go at -50% pretty fast, but the people that buy will most likely buy the complete version a.k.a the 130$ version which will be 65$ at -50% off.

[@Xfaction1111]

I have a friend who 100% Assassin creed 1-Rogue. One day he couldn’t launch the game turns out he was running a different region version. Well customer service wiped his saves and gifted him the very same identical games! It’s was hilarious how they couldn’t understand why he was even more pissed off.

[@trucid2]

I understand the frustration, but once you 100% a game what's there to do but to restart?

[@Kub-Kob]

@@trucid2 imagine you got a trophy for running a long marathon with shoes of a particular brand, and one day while looking at your fancy medal, proof of your work, the marathon organizers say you had the wrong kind of shoes, so they take away your medal and give you a new pair of exactly the same kind of shoes, and they sure as sh*t are not worn in.

[@trucid2]

@@Kub-Kob You're asking the wrong person. I care about my experience and achievement, not some bauble or medal or whatnot. I know I 100% the game that's all that counts, and if I enjoy the game loop I'll start it over from scratch.

[@LameMule]

@@trucid2 Congrats but that's you and not everybody else. I'm sure some others feel the same so pat yourself on the back and do you but don't expect him to want to be you, too. Pompous, holy shit.

[@spugelo359]

@@LameMule After I 100% a game, I feel like I'm done with it and unlikely to return to it later. Getting rid of all that work I put into that game to achieve that is just disgusting. No way I'm doing all that again since I respect my time, but still very annoying that the time I spent on it got erased and wasted.

[@bobothebob4716]

Trick question! I don't play games with paid for "early access" or whatever they want to call it. It's a canary in the mine, warning for predatory monetization, and there are far too many actually good games from developers who don't do such a thing.

[@Athasin]

That's fair but it worked for Diablo IV & Hogwarts Legacy, and you just *KNOW* GTA VI will do the same and make bank.

[@deathtrooper2048]

Every single modern game fors early access with a season pass, why do ubisoft games get the hate, but not any other game?

[@carlosbaptista7183]

For me, early access only works for fighting games, which don't display such game breaking bugs. That's why I'm pre ordering fatal fury: city of the wolves. But, for action/rpg games, it's a waste of time and money.

[@MrDoctorSpanky]

@@bobothebob4716 idk man I buy into a lot of indie games on steam that are early access get my fill and wait until til they release it to see that it shot up in price and added a ton of new things to explore. AAA games aren’t worth it though. Minus baldurs gate when I bought it for like 30 bucks when they first released it years ago and was still in the alpha or beta stage

[@Steve-xh3by]

As someone who spent 30 years as a software engineer, I'll tell you why early access is a good thing. Games are so complex now, it is totally infeasible to staff a QA team that could catch enough bugs for a smooth launch. Early access is a good idea and absolutely necessary if you want complex games as a consumer. Baldur's Gate 3 is a good example. If Larian didn't spend as long as they did in early access, the game would have launched in an awful state. The number of system interactions and quest branching in that game is insane. A team of 1000 QA testers couldn't adequately test that in a year. You need tens of thousands of people hammering on it. So, in the end, if you want games with a giant scope and lots of player freedom, then you should encourage early access. If you don't, and repeatedly complain or review bomb, then you won't ever get the games you want. The best developers and QA staff in the world can't test trillions of logical combinations and interactions.

[@micheljolicoeur6094]

The reddit thread for Starwars Outlaws is now being heavily censored with anyone who criticizes anything abuot the game being banned and their posts deleted. Complete and utter train wreck and preorders of AC Shadows are in deep trouble. Ubisoft could have a trifecta this year with three AAA(A) flops and possibly $300M+ down the drain.

[@sofajockeyUK]

Outlaws is pretty good (with a few minor bugs). Enjoying it. Shadows I'm very much looking forward to.

[@Superabound2]

Sounds like it falls upon all of us to make as many negative posts in that subreddit as possible

[@Superabound2]

​@@sofajockeyUK who paid you for this post😂

[@sofajockeyUK]

@@Superabound2 What conspiracy nonsense are you making up? I'm sharing my view just like anyone else. I'm approaching 40hrs in SW Outlaws and it's been good. Started slow, got much better, does have a few minor bugs. If you've played it too, then your informed opinion would also have value. Best game I've played this year (though the bar is low this year and I'm hoping to play better before year end).

[@Im_dsr]

@@sofajockeyUK BEST GAME THIS YEAR XDDDDDD COPIUM IS HARD IN THIS ONE. You must have not played any fucking game at all then

[@trashjash]

Preordering AAA games and its consequences have been a disaster for the gaming industry. It had a purpose for indies and smaller studios who don't have major financial backing, but AAA games often have the full force of various investors and huge companies. Sucks that AAA games are also hooked on "seasons" and the nickel-and-dime practice that is microtransaction shops.

[@Svafne]

Just stop accepting it..

[@Danceofmasks]

The reason for 3 day early makes sense for some games. It's the whole "servers crash on launch due to overload, but within a week the playerbase will drop so far that they'll be at half capacity, so there's no real incentive to have greater launch capacity." Splitting the playerbase on launch in that case reduces load on the servers. However ... Doing this for single player games is downright stupid.

[@blurgalsklech2929]

@@trashjash It was important back then to preorder Triple A games when digital downloads wasn’t really a thing yet. There were literally supply shortages of the old physical discs and cartridges (still some today with Nintendo in particular, like Metroid Prime Remastered). But on the whole there is no longer a necessity on the consumers side to preorder.

[@goosewithagibus]

The original purpose was for physical copies to be held for you, that way it didn't sell out. But these days it's pointless.

[@LilFeralGangrel]

AAA was for when games were bought in brick and mortar stores to ensure you can get a copy. This was before online retailers like Amazon and before games became largely digital. Nowadays, they're worthless nonsense. Nothing to do with indie lol

[@magnus4001]

I just got an ad for Outlaws while watching this very video. The KZbin algorithm doesn't understand irony.

[@XZhang-cf1oe]

It's 2024. People have been disappointed enough. Time to stop preordering.

[@SiNevesh]

@@XZhang-cf1oe We've been saying this for over a decade. People won't stop.

[@elLooto]

Yep. Learned my lesson with Diablo 3.

[@Zectifin]

I don't usually preorder, but I do it when people tell me what to do.

[@jajasking9652]

The only thing i've ever preordered was shadow of the erdtree, but i love soulsgames and fromsoftware always delivers, ubislop doesn't

[@ultrainstinct978]

A problem could be, that every AAA release over years development has a new audience, that just got into pc/gaming and have no/low Knowledge about this trash Ubisoft behavior.

[@Dracowinges]

0:30 I would like to play my game when it is finished with all the updates patches and expansions included for 50EU or less, no problem if it's a year or 3 later than when it was released.

[@user-xb2jx9zx1k]

You mean with all the stripped content they planned to sell you as DLC left in the game. I fully agree. Delayed access should also be banned by every gamer.

[@_Ve_98]

This is the rational thought process. If our brains were perfect, no one would buy this. But the reality is that there's many people who can't do that. Because they are young, depressed or mentally diminished in any other way, even if just temporarily. They know that we can't be rational 24/7, they count on that. FOMO is a way to weaponize our survival instincts against us, to use the fear of a fairly harmless thing to override our logical mind.

[@tasa4904]

Isn't it great? Having your beta testers pay you to test your game.

[@niteip187]

Imagine paying more to beta test. People get played so easy

[@carpathianhermit7228]

these people will be hot on the great reset bandwagon 😂​@@niteip187

[@TheKeKApex]

Video starts at 2:24

[@cyborg4432]

@@TheKeKApex This an ancient model just use revanced😂

[@nables12]

sftu trash

[@blu-rae864]

@@cyborg4432 unfortunately, some of us are stuck with iPhones.

[@operator8014]

@@blu-rae864 You chose this life. Fix your mistakes.

[@DAC936]

A hero

[@kdog3908]

Until people learn some self discipline, the big publishers will keep coming with things like pre-orders, early access and 'premium' versions of games.

[@TheGuyWithSuperLongHair]

I don't mind Premium, Definitive or Game of the year Editions if it's not some random skins and booster in a single player game.

[@TheGuyWithSuperLongHair]

We would have way less good games without EA, makes making games more affordable for small Studios

[@DeathInTheSnow]

I think we should start regulating the games industry in the same way we do food and medicine. People's data was lost here. That could happen again. It could happen with save files containing digital purchases and personal information. Ubisoft needs to be held accountable. Games need to meet a minimum level of stability to be launched. Right now, games are releasing in unfinished states, even those for children, like Pokémon. This isn't acceptable, nor is it safe.

[@fioredeutchmark]

@@DeathInTheSnowsafe? Please elaborate.

[@hypotheticalaxolotl]

@@TheGuyWithSuperLongHair months or years of Early Access is not the same thing as paying *extra* for 3 days 'Advanced Access.' Don't confuse the two.

[@BlindReflections]

It's been said a million times: people need to stop pre-ordering games if they want companies to stop treating the customers like children with credit cards.

[@N.S.M.C1999]

Never pre-order game. Never do early access no matter how much you love it. It's not worth it. The heartbreak or the money

[@hggpi]

bro said never do early acces. Bg 3 had early acces for like 4 years or smth. Y̷̨̧̠͚͕̰̦̎͋͒͂̅̎̉̾̽̈́́̊̀̚ǫ̷̳̮͙͎̫͙̩̻̺̟̱͈̙̹͖̔̿ŭ̵͉̼̭̻̮͈̼̣̰̭̠̄̈́̈́̿̒͑͒̈́̌͂͌̕̚͜ͅ ̵̪͚̜͊̃̽̌́̇̆̈̉̓̇̏̐̋́̐͠ͅc̵̘̈́̐͝a̸̧̨̨̢̻̯̪̗͚͂͛̐͐ņ̵̡̪̠͉̱̝͍̦̖̈t̷̨̧͙̲̺̠̼̦̩̎̉́̊͐͐̓͋̊̀̀̚͠͝ ̴̹͚͌̆̀͂̓͂̏͛̍̍͒̋̽̈͝s̴̝̲̃̐̀̉̋͗t̶̩͓̟̖̓̈́̿̀̊̓̄̇̄͑̀̿͗̀͝͝o̸͎͐̀͋̓̑p̴̧͍͔̭̯̗̱̙̱̘̟͌ͅ ̵͚͓̈́͌́̚͝m̵̝̦̘͂͋̊͐̋͋͆̓͗e̸̡̞̣̫̗͋̎́̈́͂͜͝ͅ

[@noxfelis5333]

The funny thing is that many early access games are in a better state than many AAA games on release nowdays.

[@tomorrowisyesterday3215]

Some early access are acceptable.

[@Capiibr]

Never is strong word. There are some developers out there that do early access justice, CoffeStain Studios (Satisfactory) is but one example. Even thou CP2077 was not prime on launch I tend to trust CDPR Larian (BG3) is another studio I would trust maybe some other indie devs, maybe if terraria develoepr had another game or when stardew dev launches his new game if it comes in EA i will buy it

[@mrm7058]

With early access it depends. There are developers who offer early access long before release because they want feedback from the community in order to improve the game. IMHO that can be a good thing. It is however bad if you have to pay extra cash just to play it 3 days earlier.

[@punz7777]

I am disappointed YOU didn't make WoW's Early Access a big of an issue as it was. It's an absolutely disgusting practice for a multiplayer game and you should've been condemning it in every single video you covered of it.

[@TheInverseable]

Don't bite the hand that feeds you is 101 of doing business

[@GENERIC_CHANNEL_HANDLE]

Imagine _paying a premium_ to be a QA tester, and already desperately underappreciated position. This is just fucking bleak.

[@AnonymousCoward3000]

@@GENERIC_CHANNEL_HANDLE how else are the executives gonna pay for their next yacht? Lol

[@MichaelRafferty-xb7iy]

Todd Howard: I'm sorry, a what?

[@W0lfenstrike]

Anybody who pre-orders that extra for "4 day Early Access" DESERVES to get a worse product and Ubisoft doing the South Park "sorry" meme is just the cherry on top of this shit cake.

[@spugelo359]

That would be why I never pay 10 extra for early access, but if I think the other content that 10 extra provide is worth it or just want to support the team (if it's not an AAA game)

[@JustinGreene0224]

I will not stop saying it. Big difference in Quality Control and Quality Assurance. - Quality Control has the ability to say "No, you can't ship this until this is fixed." - Quality Assurance gets to notify the devs what problems exist. Devs get to decide what gets fixed. Why do you think the game industry keeps it that way?

[@TheTrienco]

The usual definition of QA are the processes and measures you take you "assure" quality, QC is the actual testing (and by that point it's often too late to fix fundamental issues). Too many companies don't understand the importance of QA or think it's just "testing earlier".

[@TheRawrnstuff]

@@TheTrienco This, correct. OP is inventing his own definitions.

[@sig9779]

The devs don't decide what gets fixed, management does. The devs would probably prefer to fix all of it, but they're forced to ship it.

[@ni9274]

Quality control cannot work for the video game industry since there is no way for any state organism to be able to QA test all games before they release. Something better would be a refund policy, in France and other place in Europe we have the right to refund games for 14 days, if you have a bad experience you can get your money back. Now if you’re American you just need to elect the right people, think about it

[@JustinGreene0224]

@TheRawrnstuff I've done this for a decade, pretty sure I do.

[@Apercu]

Stop supporting a company that doesn't view their customers with respect. The way they've handled it just shows that they don't see you as a cherished customer, but literally a walking wallet. Have some more dignity.

[@transonicgnat5872]

Remember what everyone told you never buy an ubisoft game on release you should just wait till it comes to steam on sale. To many times where they release day one with promises and not deliver.

[@nebula0024]

This. I don't think I've EVER bought an Ubisoft game on release, nor would I for the price of video games these days.

[@KristiNelon]

Cough..cough..assassin creed unity.. cough.. cough

[@CDumke]

Learned that the hard lesson back with Assassins Creed Unity...after that never again!

[@ni9274]

Ubisoft games are rarely buggy and unfinished at launch, the problem people have with them are the microtransactions and the bland gameplay

[@ni9274]

@@KristiNelona game that release a decade ago, really not the best example

[@AlwayzFresh]

It's 2024, anyone paying for early access and pre ordering games deserves a hard lesson...again. Honestly the real gamers should thank the paying beta testers for taking the hit.

[@spugelo359]

Eh... just pre ordered 2nd game. First one was Hogwarts legacy and it was a banger, 2nd one will be stalker: heart of chernobyl and can already tell it's worth it. How about just use your own brain instead of being a parrot?

[@andrewhasissues]

This definitely sucks, though entirely predictable. I've always been amazed at the amount of people who pay extra to play a few days earlier and essentially beta test the day one hotpatch.

[@jonw7214]

People who buy Ubisoft games are the same people who keep putting their hands onto a hot stove and getting surprised they were burned.

[@ni9274]

Nope, most people who buy Ubisoft games are people who always had fun with Ubisoft games, they don’t get burned at all. Look through the comment section and you won’t find a single person saying « I bought the game and now I’m regretting it » you just find people saying they bought the game and having fun with it The vast majority of Ubisoft games do not release buggy or unfinished, the last time it happened was a decade ago when Unity released. Star Wars Outlaw isn’t even buggy, the problem is very specific to a few people.

[@XX-121]

@@ni9274

[@maxmen1004]

It costs Ubisoft literally nothing to give people credits... lol

[@LifenowafterOH]

Digital money for the stuff up is a digital middle finger to Ubisoft's customers.

[@anthonymcgavock4928]

As a QA tester, I actually appreciate the call out that bugs in a game doesn't immediately equate to "QA bad". We out here doin' our best.

[@Xaito]

Anybody who's bought this, gets no sympathy from me. You'd have to be willingly oblivious to not have seen this coming. Preview material from IGN and others have shown the level of quality to be expected.

[@voyagerrock1137]

Gamers will do literally anything but call for regulations istg

[@Verboten_Joey]

​@@voyagerrock1137Unfortunately I do think the video game industry needs stronger consumer protections and quality regulations. I wish it wasn't necessary, but it doesn't seem like the market is self correcting. I take issue with physical copies not having a complete and playable game on them. Even if the packaging has a disclaimer that a download is required, physical editions come with the expectation that they contain a playable game. They're selling the illusion of a product. In those instances I wait for significant digital discounts. I value digital games less than physical, and I'm not going to participate in false physical editions. The fact that many of these games release with poor performance just makes it easier to wait for a sale.

[@entririhunter]

Please, we don't need videogame companies trying to up prices based on money for time. Why don't we pay $400 for a book that's kind of long? It's a very stupid metric.

[@RoninLeonim]

Anyone who expected this game to be anything but a complete trash fire needs to get their eyes and head examined.

[@gibbit2k496]

Can you imagine paying 130$ for early access in a 15 hours length game, the people who buy this shit deserve to be scammed.

[@RydraMMO]

Why is anyone buying Ubisoft games?

[@sirab3ee198]

@@RydraMMO I do, however only when heavenly discount, play it once and never open it again 😞.

[@TheGuyWithSuperLongHair]

@@RydraMMO Because they like the games. Because they don't care or know about stuff that's going on, gaming is not thier main hobby and they don't take it so serious.

[@fioredeutchmark]

@@sirab3ee198I didn’t know God got involved in discounting last year’s shovel wear?

[@fioredeutchmark]

@@TheGuyWithSuperLongHair😂 you mean they’re a normal person and not a dweeb?

[@sirab3ee198]

@@fioredeutchmark :)))) damn just realized my mistake. No editing now as your comment is pretty funny 😂🤣...

[@claytondora]

LITERALLY game breaking bugs on launch . . . Who in the hell certified this game as gold?

[@Farron6]

I'm just real proud and happy to see the gaming community finally wake up to what a bad deal early access/buying on release day is for them. You get the worst version of the product you can buy for the highest price. Pat yourselves on the back Gamers, you're doing good.

[@bravefastrabbit770]

What are you smoking bro? The majority of gaymercattle still pre-order shit, eat it and BEEG for seconds. Just talk to your local pRedditor

[@salemas5]

5:25 Thats a face not even mother would love.

[@AlexMagnusTheLoneGamerWanderer]

Ubisoft after the problems with the early access for the gold and ultimate edition: *"here's a trinket and a few useless loyalty points as a I'm sorry"* Gamers: *"That was never a condition of our agreement, nor was having a bug that wipe out my progresses on PS5!"* Ubisoft: *"Perhaps you think you're being treated unfairly?"* Gamers: *"well yeah... What's the point of paying more for the early access if i need to restart my progress all over again for something that is your fault and not even offer proper compensation!?"* Ubisoft: *"I'm altering the deal, pray i don't alter it any further"* Gamers: *"this deal is getting worse all the time"*

[@superbtrilogy5049]

A tale as old as time. Game has preorders, Game releases either buggy or unplayable, gamers complain, cycle repeats. How I wish when you preorder a game it would be cheaper than buying it.

[@aaronlangevin322]

Anyone who paid for early access got exactly what they deserved.

[@SyCry]

Getting money back from a company is like clawing a vice away from an addict. No company will ever willingly return money for goodwill when they would rather sell the goodwill for more short term gains. It's a sad world we live in.

[@SirNoot]

Blows my mind how people throw away money instead of simply waiting a week. So you wait years for a game and then can't do four more days. FOMO just works I guess.

[@changeformer]

QA here, games are almost impossible to delay due to bugs. Usually they are released with Thousands of known bugs quite a few of which are serious. The sad part is we are constantly reminded that we are responsible for the quality of the game and have the final say whether a game is ready or not, but once that release date approaches ready of not here it comes.

[@triplebog]

Tbh if you spend 90$ or 90£ for early access to a game from Ubisoft or any developer really; A: you're part of the problem. And B: obviously the game is going to have bugs

[@evilsanta7424]

I'm part of the problem, I have money to burn and I pre order everything I play, just so I can play it before the likes of you. 😂😂😂

[@XMysticHerox]

Only if you assume "voting with your wallet" "boycotts" etc etc actually works. Which is not the case. The issue here is that this shit is even incentivized in the first place and that there are not sufficient consumer protections to prevent all the bs attached to this. There should be full refunds when a early access is broken and not some company scrip nonsense at the very least.

[@Spacemongerr]

@@evilsanta7424 Nobody above the age of 12 cares that you can play a game a few days earlier. Personally I haven't bought a game at release in 20 years. Playing something a few months later doesn't lessen my experience at all.. Rather the opposite. But thanks for beta-testing games for me.

[@specialfred453]

They forgot that "early access" is just code for "Pay a premium to have it on launch day"

[@Xusies1]

People paying extra money for what they deserve

[@Deeplycloseted435]

Anyone who paid for this game early…..deserves this.

[@robovinefilms1811]

Life's too short to grind out an Ubisoft sandbox over and over.

[@fiel81]

Amen

[@loke6664]

"Okay, so we made you waste an entire weekend you paid 20 extra bucks to do... and you likely hate us right now. Don't worry, as an excuse we give you 20% of our next buggy early release". Yeah, they really need to have the game in perfect shape for the early release when they charge money for that. Upsetting all your best customers is just a very stupid idea since they are very unlikely to fall for this again. This debacle will not help them selling new copies since word to mouth spreads and having a whole bunch of angry customers stunts sales. I don't think even giving the 20 bucks back would make everyone who spent the entire weekend playing the game forgive them because a wasted weekend is worth more then $20 to most people. Getting the old save games working really is the only way to save this. Giving them 20% off their next Ubi Soft game is probably going to make most people angrier... They should have known better since they been around for a long time, it would have been better to just move back the launch for another week instead, people get a bit annoyed by having to wait for another week but destroying all their progress makes them furious. Paying customers are the most important thing for any company, if you don't keep them happy they will skip your next game and after first Skull and Bones and now messing up this launch, that will hurt Shadows sales unless they quickly figure out how to compensate their customers better.

[@krandeloy]

I'll never forgive the industry for this symptom about forcing a release before its ready. Aliens Colonial Marines really comes to mind. Where the Alien AI was later fixed by a mod'er that found the single character typo that fix'd a large portion of the AI pathing.

[@l0rf]

Just by spellchecker "tether", he basically switched on the Alien AI. And that could have easily turned the reception for Colonial Marines into a somewhat positive one or at least one with less ridicule.

[@sumotsunamizero]

Demos should be required for any game that wants to sell on pre-order.

[@GnosticAtheist]

Rule number one of fight club: dont buy games early. Wait several months after release for bug fixes and potentially for sales. Those that do not are wallets for the machine of greed, enemies of progress and stability fill in more dramatic text here.

[@vast634]

Its not "early access", its "artificial delay for the poor". The game is already finished at the time the public plays it the first time.

[@1ProAssassin]

Oh Ubisoft credits... The thing that you get from getting achievements and expires right? At least all of mine did.

[@mklpa123]

We need to stop calling it early access and start calling it what it actually is. Delayed access if you don't pay up more

[@unrighteous8745]

"Start a new save." ROFL

[@fiel81]

@@unrighteous8745 yeah it's just basically ubi saying "fuck you" straight to your face

[@TacticalBeard]

Ubisoft is selling a mediocre empty open world game with predatory pricing IM SHOCKED SHOCKED I TELL YOU

[@williamdistefano5698]

Never Preorder. Ever.

[@willismiller7035]

ubisoft doesnt owe anyone anything, they are consistent and they have communicated what kind of company they are, if u buy u deserve what ya get...

[@Vandassar]

Cmon man. It's not that challenging to move the release date back. They just don't do it because of money. Problem is they don't realise it costs them a lot more money in the long run.

[@KPX01]

plus even with the bad press that might happen people will still buy it anyway, at this point i would say its the consumer fault for buying into the preorder stuff anyway despite knowing how many of them will have day 1 issues.

[@l0rf]

Investors are so removed from reality that they actually ask if the publishers can't just ... release games faster. They genuinely don't understand the concept of having to make something worth buying before selling it. And they're the ones with the money, so they get to pressure the decision makers.

[@Mr.Genesis]

Unironically, Starfield released in a less buggy "Premium early access" state than this game

[@JohnAndJohner]

Why is the ad 17 times louder than the rest of the video? What is this, cable TV?

[@Xaito]

SponsorBlock browser addon takes care of that.

[@fiel81]

BUY MY SHIT

[@mrbend]

Companies that don't respect my time are not worth my money. End of discussion.

[@CptTiki]

The real question is why are people still giving Ubisoft money. Just stop, and they’ll learn, and then we have a company that wants our business back. I said bye to Ubisoft several assassins creeds ago.. when they forgot what assassins creed was.. maybe I’ll be back.. or maybe not 😊

[@tatum5959]

They need to refund the value of the preorder to everyone who bought in full stop. But they won’t. Maybe this news will get to the casual players and preordering will be less popular

[@lawlessx9]

Ubisoft are probably the best in the industry when it comes to fuck ups

[@fiel81]

Yeah they are really consistent

[@Aetrion]

For me it's never the early access that makes me buy a deluxe version, it's the season pass if it's a game where I already know I want all the DLCs. Also, games have always been priced based on how early you want to play it. They literally sell it at full price first, and then slowly drop the price or have aggressive discounts on sale to sell it to everyone who is willing to play it later date for a lower price as well.

[@retroxify]

So people are upset because of the repetition they're going to have to endure as they play the same content that they've already played in their Ubisoft game? Isn't that like... EVERY Ubisoft game ever?

[@incurableromantic4006]

I can hear the ghost of the late, great Total Biscuit ranting in frustration that people are *still* pre-ordering.

[@marcosmauricio7805]

Never playing an Ubisoft game. I tried playing Assassin's Creed Odyssey on Gamepass, got jumpscared by a launcher and an ingame store, immediately uninstalled and vowed to never again try any of their games

[@Furzkampfbomber]

Reminds me of when my brother-in-law and I were playing Diablo 3 and then a friend of mine with countless MP hours asked if he could join our game. Not only was his char extremely well decked out, he gave the both of us one million gold each just because he could, but also absolutely, totally and completely OP for our game. We just tagged along when he moved from place to place and from room to room and killed everything without even lifting a finger. Seriously, he killed everything _just with his aura,_ he entered a room and everything just... dropped dead. God, I laughed so hard, it was absolutely hysterical.

[@atomixfang]

At this point I cant feel bad with the people who paid for the "PrEmiUm eXperiens" There have been countless of launches with day one updates or game killing bugs. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.

[@AdV3nt5187]

Rule number 1, don't pay for early access, stop pre-ordering from companies that have a record of screwing things up.

[@toaf6467]

and those bastards dont let us save when we want too....

[@LedeannaCal]

It is not early access it is selling the actual release date.

[@Mojaveknight17]

I'll wait until December at $5 🗑

[@phazebeast7373]

We will find hundreds of copies at the dollar store this December 😂

[@kapixniecapix3869]

As a person who mostly plays year/s after realese I cant understand paying for few days extra access. Even if this is a weekend, I mean there is another weekend in a the actual realese week. Therefore all I can fo is laugh at everyone that pays 15-20% extra for a few days. That so stupid man, its a corpo feudalism level of stupidity.

[@googoofeesmithersmits4536]

so basically this is one of those games that should absolutely be pirated

[@bobbobber4810]

Not worth it. Except if you want to laugh of a game.

[@arrogantbandit1]

"The good things are anything but the gameplay... Recommended!" What the shit people, do we want better games or not?

[@marlomitchell2761]

The thumbnail for this video looks a lot better than the actual character in the game.

[@tonyg5597]

To be honest, I really have to question people who pay a premium to play a game a whole three days earlier than everyone else...that being said, a refund of real money should be made on the premium paid for the privilege to play early...Ubisoft sold a broken pre pre-release of a game that cannot be patched without players having to put themselves in the position of everyone who did buy the standard launch day release....Ubisoft at this point is to be approached with extreme caution

[@l0rf]

I'm sure you could actually spin this into a class-action lawsuit if it can be proven they willingly and knowingly sold a premium product that wasn't able to provide the service advertised.

[@blake33x]

Corrupt saves probably an issue of variables in save not matching variables now. It's actually probably an easy fix, like setting a variable missing to null instead of just saying it's corrupt because it's not there. That's too much though, so they'd rather waste peoples' time and give gifts to try to make up for it.

[@Octarinewolf]

If you replay the game that's more time spent playing the game which makes their metrics look better. If they fix the save game that's hours they don't get to add to the magic number. Because they assume the sunk cost fallacy means you will replay.

[@habama1077]

Migration is a possibility. Essentially, figuring out what variables changed and mapping them to new ones, transforming data, etc. If the bugs are known, their effects on the data can be investigated. Then, setting them to a ,,good state" is definitely doable. Unless they fucked up so bad, that it's unpredictable or random. In that case, there still should be approaches, that could work.

[@00110000]

I feel absolutely no sympathy for the people preordering. We already know gamers are becoming QA testers, but those guys are _paying_ to do it. Truly big brain.

[@AzmanRacoon-bq1jt]

So ... Ubisoft doesn't pay bellular news? So it's okay to call out Ubisoft? Need to keep track who BN covers and not cover for. SBI for example....

[@highpriestofzuul8921]

I'm just glad that Ubisoft uses their patented 'Premium Paid QA Tester Team' to make sure the game is nice and stable by the time they finally release their games on Steam.

[@Svafne]

Capitalist greed finally put me off gaming two years ago.. Now I weigh 40 pounds less and have never been as strong :'D There's better things to do with your time than giving money to ghouls..

[@eneco3965]

Not like you have to pay for it

[@bravefastrabbit770]

@@eneco3965 Denuvo begs to differ. Good for you Svafne, keep it up bro!

[@RH1812]

I’d definitely demand a refund if the difference between the charge for the early access and the standard price of the game. Ubi points, or whatever they are called, nope.

[@Cointelpronoun]

I'll wait for them to fix it, if they fix it.

[@mrm7058]

This - in 6 month you probably get a better game for less.

[@astrealove2247]

Or just save your money, buy a better game like for instance Black Myth Wukong, or Stellar Blade, or Rise of the Ronin.

[@psychedellictoxin1195]

If people are still stupid enough to support Ubisoft then they just have to learn the hard way.

[@AFchris77]

I had THIRTY EIGHT HOURS in. Both Ubisoft and Sony tell me no refund. I’m having my bank go after them. This is RIDICULOUS. I’m never playing an Ubisoft game again.

[@bat__bat]

Latest update: Blizzard announced for the next expansion they will be offering a "Super Early Access" which gets you in one week early, one guaranteed pre-nerf exploit, two recycled mounts, and it will only cost $119.99.

[@OGStan01]

7:05 I used to work at Ubisoft as a back-end programmer and when I was given access to the entire game library as a compensation for working there, I got it on a new email/account. At the time, AC Odyssey had been out for a few months so I sunk in about 80-90 hours into the game and even as an employee there was no way for me to request that my AC Odyssey cloud save would be migrated to my new account. If I couldn't do it while working as a back-end programmer (internal policy because it could totally be done through an internal tool that I was managing made for this specific stuff but only for QA purposes), I doubt they'll make a public tool or service that could help players out with any sort of save migration.

[@KAW0111]

@@OGStan01 Sorry but Is this related at all? I don't think that save migration that would be internal game tool to convert old version save to new format have anything to do with cloud saving

[@OGStan01]

@@KAW0111 it wasn't a version conversion, it was a migration tool to move saves from one account to another or from one save slot to another for QA, in some cases it also had the feature of converting save formats, but it wasn't its main purpose. My point was, they wouldn't break these internal policies against cloud save migration/manipulation for live profiles for an employee when more or less making them move to a new account, they probably won't break them for the players.

[@randomxgen6167]

Stop calling it "early access". It's "on-time access", and people who pay premium get to play the game on time.

[@dominykaszakrys3373]

Ubisoft slopping is the norm these days...

[@ivory_anyways4065]

The main problem with early access is the people complaining about it and pointing out the issue with it, but still buying into because they gotta be high level asap.

[@Joe90h]

I wish people would realise waiting until the thing's on sale means you're not only paying less, you're also buying the best version of the game.

[@Roxor128]

Early Access should be getting you a discount, not costing you extra!

[@TiagoMorbusSa]

"paid for advanced access" also known as "the release price of the game" followed by a "permanent discount to the price where most other games retail at" call it like its