Lumix GH6 vs Lumix S5… The results will shock you!

[@MicroFourNerds]

Hope you enjoyed this comparison! If you have any more comparisons you’d like to see just let me know in the comments…. Gh6: ordered 🎉💪

[@xiaojieami]

How much is the gh6 in your country？

[@MicroFourNerds]

@@xiaojieami £1999 body only 😊

[@cineffect]

And the winner is......🥁🥇OM-1

[@harusa4601]

Can you do a comparison between gh6 and the new om-1?

[@MicroFourNerds]

@@harusa4601 I’m going to try and rent an OM1 and do some tests soon 😊

[@BootStrapTurnerVideography]

GH6 looks impressive. However I had made the decision to move to full frame a year ago with the S5. Not compelling enough to move back to MFT, but clearly validates the platform and extends the life of the MFT platform.

[@fredriksvard2603]

Same, there are a few things inherit in the ff format that matter to me. Lets's just say that for stills i'd rather use a 5d mk1 than any mft camera.

[@artistjoh]

@@fredriksvard2603 As a Canon shooter in process of going MFT, I have to admit that your 5D M1 and my 1Dx cannot match the lower noise levels of the GH6 at 12800 ISO. I have the G9, but looking at buying the GH6. The G9 can get sharp photographs at night that my 1Dx cannot get, and the GH6 is even better. Good stabilization knocks the socks off those older Canon cameras. The Gh6 is an incredible camera.

[@fredriksvard2603]

@@artistjoh Yes it looks good. If it was cheaper i'd go for it, and if the gh5ii had the low light quality of the gh6 i'd go for that. I love the small mft primes, especially the close focusing distance (42.5mm 1,7 30cm or so) and i strongly dislike the 0,5-0,9m focusing distances of most full frame equivalents (50-85mm). So if i could use them and get good stills and good low light video, that would be ideal. There's more to it than noise levels though, i still haven't seen an mft camera that renders full frame obsolete for stills in low light. Stabilization has nothing to do with outright iq, and there's also the matter of subject movement blur. 5d, i'm not saying it can't be improved but the images have that magical "pro" feel and there's a reason people kept using it (the mk2 at least) as a super cheap option used long after it was discontinued.

[@artistjoh]

@@fredriksvard2603 If the MFT camera has flaws, but still gets a sharp picture at night hand held with over a one second exposure, and my Sony, at the same location and time, and exposure just produces streaks, it doesn't matter how good its image quality is, it doesn't matter how much less noise it has. I have tested this quite a bit, and my G9 gets usable hand held photographs at night where no Sony camera is able to get a usable photograph without using a tripod.

[@fredriksvard2603]

@@artistjoh That's your use case, for others it could be that they just don't take those shots at all, ie tripod or nothing, or they use gimbals. It's a bit of a consumer mindset to "need" both function and convenience (small + ibis etc, get the shot at expense of quality) and consumers don't "need" to get the shot the way pros do. On the other hand, consumers can be less fussy with absolute image quality. There are other brands than sony too, fuji and pana have good ibis.

[@wparo]

Great review. Thank you. One thing you could have considered is the price. The S5 can be bought for half the price of the GH6. Other than that I'd pick the GH6.

[@digital.mente.]

Great music choice! GH6 looks very good but I think the S5 low light photos looked way better than the GH6 and whilst I'm sure the GH6 has better AF (smaller sensor, newer camera) I think in this test it was just faster. It had that in/out wobble rather than a smoother focus change that the S5 had. At least that's what I saw! IBIS on the GH6 looks amazing.

[@Whatsup_Abroad]

Didn't see any of that. The s5 low light photos were a hair better

[@michalwalks]

Yay for gh6! First time I have bumped into you. Oh and I love your presentation manner, your use of suitable b-roll, your hand-drawn animations with your tablet. Subscribed because of your quality content.

[@MicroFourNerds]

Thank you very much! 📸🎉

[@jtbatista]

Still rocking my G9. I am probably may invest on the GH6 to have it partnered with my G9 since I own 5 lenses deep already.

[@AndySnap]

That really shows the advances in technology and processing power that the GH6 brings to the Lumix range. But I'm really looking forward to/hoping for, is all that GH6 good stuff in a new, photo-centric 'G9 mkii', the G9 being one of the greatest stills cameras ever...imho.

[@MicroFourNerds]

Me too! I think it would be a beast!

[@Whatsup_Abroad]

I've got the g9, the shape was better than the gh5 by far and better viewfinder, both of which seem to have come to the gh6. But as far as the photo features go, the gh5 had the majority of them. I'm honestly not sure what they would put in the g9ii that the gh6 doesn't have

[@VoicesofMusic]

I don't use AF for video or do handheld long exposures, but I enjoyed the video.

[@georgefromgreece4119]

Best comparison ever. Came for the comparison, stayed for the song in the first test. Stay strong, creative, and blessed!

[@andreasbulowhansen9413]

Thing to remember is that once you hit 4K 50p on the S5 you're stuck with a 1.5 times crop. Just so annoying if youre switching framerates often. That's still a huge advantage of MFT with uncropped high framerates

[@Learning2Sax]

Thing to remember is that mft has 2x crop ALL the time, and S5 has 1.5 crop in 4k 60

[@ramaxey]

I would be interested in the specifics of the lens used for each camera and the autofocus settings. If I were starting over, I'd look seriously at the GH6, but I committed to full-frame over a year ago with my Lumix S5. No regrets.

[@3runjosh]

Welcome back. I never expected drastic improvements in noise and I also thought stabilisation was as good as it's going to get a few years ago lol

[@IvoTichelaar]

Actually, I'd be quite interested in a G100 VS GH6 comparison. Or a longterm review of the G100. It seems like the perfect blend of Panasonic user interface/tech and Olympus EM10-iv form factor. But does it outperform a GX80? Which camera do you grab if you want a compact m43 camera? Love the joy in your videos. Thanks for showing yourself.

[@MicroFourNerds]

I genuinely really love that little camera even if everyone else in the world seems to hate it 😂 I’ll definitely do an updated review, I’ve used it a lot recently. … I’ve actually sold my gx80 (and S1) to get the gh6…. I just didn’t find myself using the gx80 as much. Though if it was for purely photography, I think it probably is better

[@MichaelGerrard]

@@MicroFourNerds you sold your GX80? I sold mine too, but I replaced it with a GX9 🙂 For the GX10 they should fit a flip up screen for those doing video to camera.

[@snappychappy]

I bought the G100 to replace a battered LX15 and I have been pleasantly surprised. I don't use it for video just stills, and because I can slip it in a small bag with a couple of small primes or just slip it in a pocket with the Panny 14mm it tends to get a little more use than my GX80, G80, and even my G9. Yeah, I'm quite happy with it, I think it was just marketed wrong.

[@IvoTichelaar]

@@snappychappy that sounds fabulous. I really love my GX1, but it has some age-related issues. A GX80 is a marvellous little camera in itself, but it's a tank compared to a GX1. Hmmmm. Thoughts. ;-)

[@artistjoh]

With long exposure you should have also demonstrated the GH6 hand held 100MP mode which absolutely blows everything else out of the water. Your 12800ISO test was very illuminating as 12800 is the highest ISO I ever use in normal shooting. Incredible and way better than my Canon 1Dx at the same ISO.

[@MichaelGerrard]

The GH6 was easily the best. They've done a fantastic job. Now if they can squeeze that into a GX9 body, I will be happy 🙂 (minus super fancy video stuff and plus more stills goodness)

[@MicroFourNerds]

That would be amazing wouldn’t it?! The ultimate portable photography camera yes please

[@TITAOSTEIN]

I could not agree more! And weather sealed please!!

[@TITAOSTEIN]

could not agree more! And weather sealed please!!

[@williamburkholder769]

For that matter, let's see an S2H and an S6! Ever onward and upward...

[@ShinyTechThings]

Your channel name alone is worth subscribing alone. I love to travel with my GH5 and G85 but I've been looking into the S5 but think I'll wait for the S5 Mark II or GH7.

[@michaelacker]

That was excellent. The final drop to convince me to get the GH6

[@ColorLioX]

Hello, happy to find your channel. Well done. You got the subscription :) The micro 4/3 fan here and the happy user of GH5m2 and GH6 as well. I am impressed with the GH6 improvement but to be honest the GH5m2 has some advantages. For example composite in a still photography. That's why I keep both bodies. Looking forward to see more of your videos.

[@Mapdec]

Well done. This was probably one of the best GH6 vids I’ve watched. Seems like you actually used it rather than scan through the spec sheet.

[@markshirley01]

Great video - well done - and thanks for the work you put in. Nice to see your Stabalisation tips video in Liverpool just down the road from me in Southport. 👍

[@SuchanBajracharya]

Splendid review and comparison! MFT has come a long way and the improvement on the GH6 sensor is very noticeable. Wondering how GH6 compares with the GH5s, I would love to see a review on that! Cheers!!

[@KairuinKorea]

I'm planning to buy my first proper camera at the end of the year. I've been debating between getting the GH6 or an a7s3, but honestly, I've been leaning towards the GH6 for a while and your low light section really helped consolidate that. It doesn't need to 'be the best' at everything a full frame would, it just needs to hold its own. and it does that bloody well. The only reason I'd consider changing my mind now is if they announced a successor to the S1H which has all of the functionality of the GH6 (which is a major selling point and is very unlikely). Great video, I think I'll finally cave in and hit that subscribe button haha xD (also 1000th like. yeet)

[@ezrashanti]

They will within 6 months. For a lot more money.

[@KairuinKorea]

@@ezrashanti I know it will cost more BUT here is the but.. Let's say I buy the GH6. The total Price in Korean money is about 7.5 million won. (The GH6 is about 2.6, and the 1.7 aperture zoom lens combo are about 2.4 each). An S5 costs less than 2 million (absolute bloody bargain) and I could buy only 1 lens. The Panasonic S pro 24 - 70 f2.8. Costs about 2.5 million. Total cost 4.5. A panasonic S1H costs about 4.5 - 6 million. Lets assume a new camera is around the same figure. Trade in the S5, and you can probably knock a million off. Total cost of the full frame system including the upgrade is now 8 million. Thats only a 500,000 ($500 or so) difference in the end. So assuming both systems including are a compable price (because with the GH6 I'd buy 2 lenses instead of 1) wouldn't you then encourage me to go for the full frame system?

[@ezrashanti]

@@KairuinKorea I'm not a super expert and don't know what you're trying to accomplish. Depends on your needs as all of these are far from perfect cameras. You have to consider size, weight, cost, application, etc.

[@Democratiser]

What did you end up buying? Or did you wait and thus have the option now of the S5II?

[@ofmetalphilosophy4837]

Well. Are you sure the high ISO photography is tied between the S5 & GH6? That would mean the crop sensors now are on par with FF.

[@MicroFourNerds]

Yeah I think I might have been a bit generous there! Full frame is still king for iso performance, and iso invariance. Though the gap has definitely started to close! I was just very surprised at how close they were in this particular test

[@GildedEntries]

The hand-held GH6 shots are mind bogglingly good. Thank you!

[@MicroFourNerds]

I know right?! I didn’t think 4 seconds would work in a million years but it’s super usable. Crazy!

[@dantedantec]

@@MicroFourNerds did you try pushing the gh6 further in handheld long exposure by any chance? would be nice to find out what the limit is (even if it varies person to person it would be a good reference). loved the video btw!

[@MicroFourNerds]

@@dantedantec thank you! Yes, after 4 seconds things got a bit wobbly but I am almost certain it was because of the wind - it was terrible in the uk the whole time I had the gh6, storm after storm! On a less windy day I reckon I could get 6 seconds. I’ll try it when I get my gh6 at the end of the month 😊

[@OurSweetHideout]

One equation did you have any issues with streaking or banding with the GH6 ?

[@charlespinion]

Great review! I have the S5 but am considering the GH6. You’ve articulated some of the sticking points and selling points very nicely.

[@ironspider1960]

What lenes were fitted to each camera? I was just wondering if O.I.S played any part in the long exposure results? I know the S5 stock lens has no I.O.S not sure what the GH6 ships with.

[@MicroFourNerds]

I used lens ios on all three - the 12-35mm 2.8 on the m43 cameras and the lumix 24-105mm on the s5 😊

[@RyanThomasDalton]

hey, longtime sub! enjoyed the comparison video. just curious about how you did the crown graphics on the tablet.. that was really cool!

[@MicroFourNerds]

Thank you! I just screen recorded myself drawing it, then in final cut chroma keyed out the white background 😊 the iPad Pro is great for making little custom graphics - I just wish I could draw 😂

[@RyanThomasDalton]

@@MicroFourNerds well, super cool little addition! I really liked it!

[@ImageMaven]

Thanks Emily! Love this. And I'm a secret fan of the G100. It's just the perfect camera for bumping around town. Quick Q: For your ISO photo tests are you shooting jpgs? Thx!

[@MicroFourNerds]

The g100 is fab isn’t it! I use it all the time. The gh6 raw files aren’t usable at the moment until Adobe updates their applications. So in this video, I shot raw then converted those to jpeg using SilkyPix without any additional noise reduction etc. it isn’t as fair as raw comparisons but I had to think of a workaround! P.s. I love your channel I was just watching it yesterday actually, going through the focus stacking tutorial 😊

[@ImageMaven]

@@MicroFourNerds I love the G100. So nice to have a small camera in the collection and I just love the fun features like the S&Q mode. I particularly like using it with my 15mm 1.7 on those rare occasions where I shoot on-location vlogs. Oh duh, of course the GH6 raw can't be used yet. To be honest I rarely shoot raw files anymore. I find the Lumix cameras process the jpgs better than I can - LOL - and I can do minor corrections in LR if need be. :) I love your channel too. You're so refreshing and fun. I think we could be great pals! Hugs from Calgary, Canada!

[@snappychappy]

@@ImageMaven Marlene and Emily hooking up for reviews, tricks, and tips. Outstanding. Make it so.

[@ImageMaven]

@@snappychappy That would be a dream come true for me!

[@adhardino9781]

Fantastic comparison and amazing gh6 noise control, thanks so much.

[@andreaabout]

Great comparison and shows just how far M43 has come and can compete with FF in some cases and even better in others such as IBIS etc. I`ve done a similar photo shoot from a motorway bridge at nigh all be it with tripod and using good old fashioned film LOL! Great fun. I was a bit worried though when it looked like you were hanging your camera over the side of the bridge, kept bracing myself LOL! But seriously this was great as I don`t know much about Panasonic/Lumix and great to see much improved noise levels. I think a similar comparison between the OM1 & GH6 has to be next. I would expect the GH6 to be the better video camera but who knows? Thank you again and looking forward to your future videos with your new GH6, happy photography.

[@jasonnowwhat5041]

You had me at Faith No More

[@markedwards4787]

I've been testing DxO PureRAW2 and it basically just fixes noise. All my raws from the g9 from about 800 were as smooth as a babies bot after deeppriming! dark arts at work... and worth every penny.

[@CelestialTrieye]

Excellent comparison... THANK YOU!!

[@ShinyTechThings]

Did all cameras have the latest firmware on the bodies and lenses?

[@MicroFourNerds]

Yes all up to date at the time of filming

[@alantuttphotography]

Enjoying the new energy you're bringing to these videos (music, intro, etc.). These comparisons make me glad I decided to forego the S line and buy into the GH line last year with the GH5M2. From what I've seen, that camera splits the difference between the original GH5 and the GH6 in low light quality. I know we can pause the video at any point, however, I would prefer the comparisons stayed on screen a bit longer with less dashing about.

[@fredriksvard2603]

Whats wrong with s5 though, lense options and weight? Gh6 doesn't appeal to me at all, but that's just me.

[@alantuttphotography]

@@fredriksvard2603 I wouldn't necessarily say anything is WRONG with the S5. Not as good IBIS, 4K60 is cropped to the point where it's nearly pixel-for-pixel, so not as high a quality as true oversampling, and all of the 10-bit modes have a 30-minute limit. Plus, telephoto lenses (which I use often) are larger and not as easy to travel with. These were things I just didn't feel good accepting.

[@fredriksvard2603]

@@alantuttphotography With teles, wouldn't a 5.6 or slower lens with super high iso on the s5 be better than a heavy 2,8 on mft? I mean, the end result is what matters. The old 5d is hopelessly antiquated and yet people see the results and go why, while modern mft results range fron "meh, ok i guess" to downright bad in low light.

[@gamingwithstand6886]

Don't forget once DXO has support or the GH6 you get two extra stops of high ISO that are clean. DXO noise reduction is mind blowing.

[@vaagul.g3114]

Hi i need some help to choose a cam I going to buy new cam Which is better lumix s5 Or lumix gh6 for photo and video

[@frankinblackpool]

May I ask if you took any RAW photos with the GH6, and if you had any problems using those RW2 files? I only ask because I've just had a play with my camera today and for some reason I can not use the RW2 files it created. I have an old copy of Lightroom 5.7 and even with my GH5 which create RW2 files I had to use Adobe Converter to change the files to DGN. I also just tried Darktables but sadly that could not read or import the files.

[@MicroFourNerds]

Lightroom hasn’t updated to accept them yet unfortunately! So I’ve been converting the raw files to TIFF via a software called SilkyPix, which is buggy and terrible haha but at least it gets the job done. I’m so hoping they hurry up and update it!! It always happens with new cameras, so annoying

[@frankinblackpool]

I'm glad its not just me suffering with these new RW2 files. You'd think with the delay of about a year in releasing the GH6, they'd have all this sorted? I think I will hold off on the SilkyPix for the moment. Its a bit spendy. 🤣

[@MicroFourNerds]

@@frankinblackpool and it’s awful! It crashes so much when I am trying to convert I can’t wait for the Lr update!

[@frankinblackpool]

@@MicroFourNerds As of yet I haven't resorted to cracking open the User Manual, simply because I'm male and don't know any better, do you know if its possible for the GH6 to save images as a DGN file rather than a RW2 file? I did try to download the User manual from the Panasonic site but it does not exist. They can give you a hard copy but haven't got round to making it available on line? First World Problems.

[@MicroFourNerds]

@@frankinblackpool to my knowledge, no, just the lumix raw type unfortunately

[@CallMeDHC]

What is the best lens for POV on Panasonic Lumix GH6?

[@weisserth]

I saw the S5 being on sale briefly for USD1,500 a few days ago (now it's back up to USD2,000). At the discount price of USD1,500 I'd pick the S5 over the GH6 without a second thought.

[@chokedboy]

i have mine since today, happy as F ^^

[@EatInTaiwan]

I have a G85 since when it was released and I love it, but I can't wait to get my hand on the GH6 😁

[@EatInTaiwan]

@N. D. Agreed. After almost 6 years, the G85 is still fantastic

[@markedwards4787]

@N. D. I loved my g85... but ended upgrading to the g9 as ergonomically it just felt a touch better in my hands

[@Sharkman3472]

I’m so excited to get my hands on the GH6!

[@scarabrae]

Naïve question here - I do 3D camera tracking [Syntheyes] and any type of IBIS, body or lens, will mess up the ability of the software to get a decent track. Is it possible to turn off IBIS in the body of the GH6? Thanks....

[@MicroFourNerds]

You can turn off any lens stabilisation but to my knowledge the camera stabilisation is “baked in” as it’s the sensor that moves. I think the gh5S was popular for certain types of videography because there was no stabilisation in that body, I wonder if they’ll do something similar with the gh6 lineup

[@scarabrae]

@@MicroFourNerds thanks, I'll follow this up. Cheers! :)

[@brianwhiteside]

Is there ant significant difference with the March 1st firmware updates to DG lenses?

[@MicroFourNerds]

At the Panasonic event they mentioned that some lenses needed to be updated to allow for auto focus at higher frame rates, like the 240p etc on the gh6, so I assume it’s that

[@GroundedTech]

Funnily enough I'm looking to replace my G100 with one of these so that intro was perfect 😂

[@RealGengarTV]

The music choice was epic

[@spiroszaharakis2648]

High ISO on GH6 looks impressive at first glance but with closer examination, it actually looks like heavy NR has been applied internally. Still very good though, much better than GH5 but not to S5 levels even if it fools you into thinking they are close.

[@MicroFourNerds]

I think your comment sums it up perfectly. Its clever processing in the gh6 and legitimate extra light and data in the s5

[@deanrobertnoble138]

Great video, thankyou. Nice Pia 🎸 as well!

[@frankinblackpool]

I'm exceptionally happy with my decision to get the GH6 and knowing it competes with a full frame beast is all the better. What I'm really looking forward to is vLog and not vLog Light. No more trying to remember how to expose for middle grey and watching the waveform give up the ghost at 80%.

[@markshirley01]

Is Vlog easy to expose for. I've no experience of Panasonic cameras.

[@frankinblackpool]

@@markshirley01 There are a couple of schools of thought about correct exposure, and more than probably discussed on many episodes on the Micro Four Nerds channel. One way is to keep an eye on the waveform and not let anything clip the bottom or top of that waveform. Another way is to use a Grey Card and expose to middle grey on the waveform monitor. If you did not have a Grey Card then you could expose to skin tone. Both ways have advantages and disadvantages but you pays your money and you takes your choice. For me, the most important tool Is the waveform.

[@Yupthereitism]

It does not compare with full frame

[@frankinblackpool]

@@Yupthereitism Close enough for me. But then I chose MFT for other reasons other than sensor sizes and I’m still happy with those reasons.

[@thematsc]

If you like sloppy unprecise autofocus and pulsating background GH is great.

[@chinitopinoy1726]

Love your videos!

[@cloud84strife]

great shootout and you're so cool! I subscribe the channel! :) what about to make also a GH6 vs S1?

[@MicroFourNerds]

Thank you! I’ve unfortunately sold my S1 to fund my gh6 purchase 🙈 it was such a great camera though! Just huge!

[@Mooli]

WOw, great video. GH6 is looking amazing

[@aquaphoenixx]

Will the S5 be a good camera for filming workout videos a one man show? Will the AF be OK if you set the camera on a tripod and do the workouts yourself?

[@MicroFourNerds]

I wouldn’t personally. If you stay roughly the same distance from the camera you can stop down the aperture and will stay in focus (with locked focus), but this isn’t the camera that will track you all over the place. It will almost certainly hunt and miss you during the take at some point

[@aquaphoenixx]

@@MicroFourNerds Thank you for the detailed reply. I plan to be in the center of the frame and move max 2-4 steps off the center and return to center. I will move my arms and legs though. I will not be all over the place. So in this case will it be OK. I understand the Sony A7 IV will solve my problem but the price difference in the body only is 1050€. 1650€ vs 2700€ That difference is substantial! That is why I am asking. 🙂

[@MicroFourNerds]

@@aquaphoenixx if you’re not moving too much forwards and backwards from the camera, locking focus and closing the aperture a bit will always give the best results as you’re not leaving anything to chance. If you want a camera to properly track you reliably then it definitely won’t be Lumix branded currently! The gh6 would be the most reliable and even that isn’t perfect.

[@aquaphoenixx]

@@MicroFourNerds Thank you so much for taking the time to respond with detailed answers to my questions!

[@artistjoh]

As part of longer hand held exposures you should have demonstrated the handheld 100MP mode which blows everything else out of the water. I also appreciated the 12800 ISO test as that is the highest iSO I use in normal shooting. It performed better than my Canon 1Dx. I am considering trading the 1Dx in for the GH6. I already sold most of my Canon glass last year to get my G9 and MFT lenses. GH6 is a heck of a camera.

[@MicroFourNerds]

I know right the iso is crazy! Regarding the 100mp, I have a dedicated video coming up all about the photography features of the gh6 - it’s just been a bit tricky at present because Lightroom hasn’t updated yet to open the raw files and I wanted to show the 100mp in raw rather than jpeg 😊

[@artistjoh]

@@MicroFourNerds I look forward to it. I must say that you have gotten so much better at making these videos. I have watched them since your very first one. I was always enchanted by your personality and passion and it is wonderful to see your journey.

[@MicroFourNerds]

@@artistjoh thank you so much! Since my break recently I’ve been determined to up the quality as much as possible and I’m really proud of the new videos so far 😊 got plenty more lined up! 🎉📸

[@frankinblackpool]

May I ask where you get replacement batteries for your Panasonic S5 or new GH6 from? And if you are considering any other form of external power source? There really isn't a whole lot of information out there on the tinterweb.

[@MicroFourNerds]

I bought them third party off Amazon. Some photographers will only swear by the official batteries, which I do understand, but one official battery is £90 and two third party batteries with a spare charger is about £40! So I’ve always gone third party and I’ve never had any issues so far thankfully! I have powered my cameras on the wall via usb c when I’ve been filming Course content in a studio environment which is super handy. I’ve never felt the need for a power bank yet but the option is always handy! I can see myself using that for when I go camping etc and can’t charge

[@frankinblackpool]

@@MicroFourNerds Thank you so much for getting back to me. I am very very happy to use third party batteries but there don't seem to be many if any options on Amazon. Would you be willing to point me in the direction of one such battery? I'm also looking at some PD rated power banks in the hope that I can power my camera, on the go, with USB C. Cheers

[@MicroFourNerds]

@@frankinblackpool my spare s5 batteries are “DSTE” branded, but I’m quite sure most third party batteries are similar and just rebranded. My gh5 ones are quite old now I bought them years ago! So they’re not on Amazon anymore, but they’re still going just as strong as the official battery so that’s something!

[@frankinblackpool]

@@MicroFourNerds You are an absolute star. Thank you, thank you, thank you. 😀 Can't wait for my new toy. I may have to sell both kidneys to buy a CF Express card. And as luck would have it my six 128Gb v60 cards are now obsolete as well. Thankfully my Mr Ninja will play nicely with my new toy. I do have one morality question, what should I tell the other half when she asks about the cost of my new toy? 😱

[@MicroFourNerds]

@@frankinblackpool if she’s anything like my husband, all my cameras and lenses look vaguely similar so just don’t say anything and pretend it’s the old one 🤣 my trade in credit has just arrived for my gh6 from selling my S1, so I should be ordering mine in the morning wooooo

[@SuperRexProductions]

I was looking forward to your input on the GH6 😎👍🏻

[@cineffect]

OMG, the drummer!

[@spicy__roads3422]

Wonderful video, i just ordered ant this is my first MFT. I hope i can enjoy it, seems really cool

[@MicroFourNerds]

I’m sure you’ll love it ☺️📸🎉

[@Patty_BeGood]

Hello, I would like to ask your opinion since you have tried both the Gh6 and the S5. I have a Lumix G80 and was considering swapping it for one of these two machines to improve the quality. I am a freelance graphic designer and every now and then it happens that some client asks me to take photos to insert them in website flyers or for an event. I also like making videos, in fact I opened my own channel on youtube. Soon I will finally have my honeymoon which will be divided into two parts; in a few weeks in the Caribbean and in August in California. A friend of mine asked me to take pictures of her at her uncle's civil wedding which will be in 2 weeks and I said yes ... 😅 HELP !!!! Which camera do I choose? I don't know whether to stay with the M43 and take the GH6 because I already have a nice set of lenses (12-60mm lumix, 25mm 1.2 olympus, 45mm 1.8 olympus, 75mm 1.8 olympus) or buy a full frame of which I don't have lenses to mount and I should buy at least a 50mm or 85mm 1.8 to take portraits at a wedding. For me, lightness is also essential for traveling and vlogging. Can you give me an advice? Sorry my english i translated with google translator.

[@MicroFourNerds]

Hi! If you have already invested the lenses I’d say stay with your g80 - it’s a brilliant camera for photo and video 😁 if you were to upgrade you could possibly sell all m43 gear and invest in the s5, but it would be easier to upgrade to the gh6 eventually. But your existing camera is brilliant I think you’ll do great with what you have 😁

[@Patty_BeGood]

​@@MicroFourNerds Hi, thank you for answer. The G80 is good but not enough. I can take good photos up to 1600 iso after the noise gets heavy. Other than that it worries me that there is no double memory slot. To take pictures at a wedding it would be best to have it in case something goes wrong. I will be paid for this photo shoot and I would not go wrong. Both the Gh6 and the S5 I saw in your video that they play well with high ISOs. For burst shooting in good lighting conditions is Gh6 or S5 better? If I took Gh6 I could use the lenses I have now but I would always have a small bokeh and I have seen that to use the double memory slot the Gh6 uses a memory card which costs a lot. For the S5 here in Switzerland there is a cash back so I would pay the 20-60 lens kit much less than the Gh6 body. I hate to decide! 😅

[@MicroFourNerds]

@@Patty_BeGood for low light photography as your main goal, I’d go for the S5 😊

[@frankinblackpool]

Just got a phone call. My new toy arrives early next week. It’s at the store right now, but as I paid via PayPal it must be posted. So excited.😃

[@MicroFourNerds]

Exciting!!!!

[@frankinblackpool]

@@MicroFourNerds I WANT IT NOW 🤪🤪 I’m in giddy schoolboy mode.

[@frankinblackpool]

@@MicroFourNerds guess what arrived in the post just now? You only get one guess. 😜

[@MicroFourNerds]

@@frankinblackpool I’m so jealous! Enjoy!!!!!

[@frankinblackpool]

@@MicroFourNerds I'm going to guess that your unboxing will be a lot more profesh than mine, which was filmed on a rug on the floor. 🤣

[@mattroelsgard]

Would have loved to see the Lumix G9 results in these tests!

[@northof-62]

2nd that :D

[@MakeWeirdMusic]

Wow. An Ibanez Pia guitar!

[@MicroFourNerds]

It’s a beaut!

[@Astrolavista]

I never in a million years expected the long promised GH6 to be THIS much better than the GH5, it's even got Tony Northrup eating his M43 is dead words lol p.s. Props for such a well made video Emily, I watched twice! Once so I could concentrate on the testing and again so I could ogle your band mates Ibanez pia guitar :D

[@MicroFourNerds]

It’s such a beautiful guitar! I steal it often 🤣

[@mikey7326]

For the photo ISO comparison, ,was that raw or jpegs?

[@MicroFourNerds]

shot raw on the gh6, but then converted them to JPEG’s (without any additional noise reduction or any adjustments) so that Lightroom could open the files. I’ll definitely do some updated comparisons when Lightroom updates to use the files in the coming weeks as I know it’s a bit unfair currently

[@mikey7326]

@@MicroFourNerds Thanks and well done.

[@makatron]

Even though we're reaching the limits that the m43 sensor size has, for a camera that does a lot and does it good, this is a great bang for buck.

[@TonysTravel]

It looks like I have to exchange my Lumix GH5 II for the GH6 isn't it?

[@davidm5790]

Great video!

[@AoyagiAichou]

I got the G100 last week as a sort of a "B cam" and I'm just pleasantly surprised. The build quality is great and it's basically a budget and more compact G90 which I love. Wouldn't date to use it without a stabilised lens though! Anyway, from what I've seen in other videos, the GH6 does a lot better in terms of AFC than anything Lumix has done before. Were you using dynamic boost for any of the test shots?

[@MicroFourNerds]

That’s the only thing with that g100! If it had ibis it would be near perfect! For the tests I kept DB off

[@snappychappy]

@@MicroFourNerds Bye eck lass, you young un's don't know tha's born. Back in my day IBIS was an exotic bird and we steadied our cameras with tripods and monopods and lamp posts to lean against.

[@mikesphotography7185]

GH6 of course, love your videos

[@fredriksvard2603]

S5 for me

[@A1Bokeh]

What do you think of the om1?

[@MicroFourNerds]

It looks really impressive from the reviews I’ve seen so far. I’m hoping to rent one for a week or two and do some comparisons eventually 😊

[@Alexrocks1253]

Wondering if a GH6 would pair up nicely with the S5... I already have an S5 which is great for both stills and video, but is not the best in terms of lens sizes and IBIS when walking. I am looking for a good reason to buy a GH6 to replace my Sony gear (that company seems to really drop the ball on their cameras, giving up on firmware, etc.) Could you help me out finding a reason? Looking to possibly get back into MFT because it seems so great for travel and run and gun.

[@MicroFourNerds]

That’s my exact setup for paid work - s5 and gh6 as a combo. All my bases are covered with those cameras combined! And they match perfectly in terms of colour and quality. More video-centric project? I lean on gh6 more for better slow mo, better ibis, fits on my gimbal better, etc More photo-centric project? I lean on my S5 for shallower depth of field and low light stuff. although the gh6 is a great photo camera too and performs great in low light. They even share the same batteries. So handy!

[@Alexrocks1253]

@@MicroFourNerds That sounds nice! The video low light on the GH6 honestly doesn't look half bad either so for more mobile projects it seems to be an amazing camera. For more locked off set type shoots (and pretty low light), the S5 will shine with its primes. With the GH6 I could actually potentially run and gun for real (as in full sprint to catch up with action). If I did documentaries, I would definitely pick up the GH6 more than the S5 but I have a feeling I will use them equally, with the right tool for the job. With similar button placements, I think that switching between the two would be pretty quick, right?

[@MicroFourNerds]

@@Alexrocks1253 very quick, they’re very similar. Also forgot to add, the gh6 auto focus is MILES better, so it’s very handy for certain situations where fast and reliable focus is needed

[@Alexrocks1253]

@@MicroFourNerds especially with the 100-300 which I plan to get where it needs to be. A 150-600 for the S5 would be gigantic!

[@jayclas4023]

Yea the brocolli is always an issue lol! Great video!

[@MH-ir7ep]

You plays drums too? WOW!

[@koolkutz7]

Nice to hear a bit of 'Faith No More' in the background! The Gh6 (£1,999 body only) does look the best all-round contender here. However, the S5 is on offer at the moment with £200 off and a free 50mm f1.8 lens thrown in for £1,299 so it's a tough choice. I suppose it depends if you want FF with bigger, heavier lenses over the MFT system.

[@MicroFourNerds]

That is a bargain for the s5 wow 👀

[@koolkutz7]

@@MicroFourNerds It sure is! I noticed that Park are also offering the GH5 II body for around £1,099 thsi weekend-that is also a good deal. I gues it's because the GH6 is out soon :-)

[@MicroFourNerds]

@@koolkutz7 that’s crazy that you could almost get an s5 and a gh5ii for the price of the gh6 with stock lens!

[@koolkutz7]

@@MicroFourNerds Exactly! I am tempted but I am waiting to see what Fujifilm comes out with this year too. That new OM-1 looks very capable for wildlife :-)

[@Abba555]

i have the panasonic eva1 and the image quality of the gh5s is insane, maybe is the best panasonic camera in 2024 for cinema

[@deblashbrook3209]

Appreciate the great video as always, but feel it wasn’t an equal comparison. The GH5/GH6 are more video centric, whereas the S5 is largely a stills camera. Would like to to see them head to head for stills for landscape’s & portrait… dynamic range etc…. Thank you again for good content.

[@MicroFourNerds]

Definitely! It’s about the right tools for the job at the end of the day. When my gh6 pre order arrives I’ll be able to do some more balanced tests 😊 thanks so much for watching!

[@fredriksvard2603]

I bought a s5 purely for video

[@fotografiandofaros]

Good videos and good channel. Keep going.

[@victormultanen1981]

It is cool comparison!

[@thb5505]

Moved out of MFT a few weeks ago. Ended up disappointed with lack of innovation. I also think the system is doomed since the death of Olympus and Panasonic opening up to full frame. Who knows, but id rather not be the one holding the bag (equipment) in the end. The S5 is one of my top candidates for my next camera. Either that or the the Nikon Z6 ii.

[@middletonrobert99]

Did you decide on which camera you want? I have a Nikon Z7ii and I love it for photos. I wanted to find a camera for video and was tempted to get the Z6ii cause of all the Z glass I own. I ended up getting the S5 mostly due to the internal 10 bit and the price. I got an S5, Sigma lens, and VND filter for same price as the Z6ii and a ninja V which I would of needed to record 10 bit.

[@thb5505]

@@middletonrobert99 I haven't made up my mind yet! But the Z6 ii is still my fav, I think it is also a great stills camera. However I don't do much video, so I can't comment on that...

[@colinmcnab6145]

I was using a Fujifilm X-T3 APSC I sold it and bought a Panasonic S5 last year really wasn't impressed. I then sold the S5 and have just bought an Olympus MFT camera having seen video reviews and many FF users going over to the brand.

[@adosq]

I love Lumix S5, but that AF is shame.... evrn when gh6 is better in this competition

[@g3cd]

I think you should've also taken a look at connectivity - where the GH6 should shine, as you can use it as a webcam with unlimited recording time and can even attach external drives. Also the GH6 supports Apple ProRes and 60fps at 5.7K or 240fps at Full HD and has a totally tiltable display 😍 So maybe at least include "slow motion" next time as it should look great on KZbin?

[@hoodaffairstv]

gh6 unlimited recording and ssd connectivity coming soon as well

[@evenaicantfigurethisout]

I wish the GH6 weren't so heavy. I was surprised the s5 weighs only 700g, very close to my g9 while the gh6 comes in close to a kilogram! Already the g9 is borderline difficult to travel with. With the s5+kit at a steep 300 dollar discount now that makes the decision even more convoluted.

[@MicroFourNerds]

Ya know I’m really feeling the weight of the gh6 properly now I own one. It is a huge difference than the gh5. The s5 is almost always my heaviest camera though, because the lenses I love are super bulky!

[@chinitopinoy1726]

Could you do more 300 fps samples please?

[@MicroFourNerds]

Definitely! That’s one of my fave features for sure 😊

[@borderlands6606]

For hybrid use the S5. The AF continuous test looks like the S5 was shot at default, not optimal speed and sensitivity for the tennis ball. Nonetheless, the GH6 is a video beast.

[@MicroFourNerds]

I had it set to Set 4 “suggested for situations where the speed of the subject changes significantly”, which is +1 for af area switching sensitivity. I usually leave it in Set 1 for my own uses, so there was an effort at least to tailor the af to the situation. I have my video af set to High. But as I say in the video, this definitely isn’t a strength of the s5 I think it was always going to struggle with the faster moving tracking 😊 I think it more than makes up for it with low light performance. I think the s5 colours looked the best in low light.

[@chloescanlon1107]

I have absolutely no doubt you had made your mind up prior to doing this video. Your channel is called Micro Four Nerds so that’s understandable.

[@MicroFourNerds]

I was as intrigued as anyone to see the results tbh! My method was: do the tests then write the script around the results, definitely not the other way around. I love the S5 enough to own one (and 7 lenses - I’m invested in Lumix full frame. I think I’ve spent more in that system than m43) and my conclusion is as I said: different tools for different jobs. I love both systems and think they both have a lot to offer 😊 I am counting down the days until my gh6 order arrives though, very impressive piece of kit. Thank you for checking out the video 🙏📸

[@przybylskipawel]

For noise at high ISO in video I would also call it a draw between S5 and GH6

[@markedwards4787]

If this is the case, the gh6 is a no brainer for amateur and pro work.. the whole system is lighter and cheaper. Check out the beautiful primes! I keep thinking about going to FF from my G9, but always bottle it. The GH6 is now calling.......

[@JoseSpenaN]

No body talks about the GH5M2 :(

[@gamingwithstand6886]

By the way that pink film I left a comment on your last video its from Japan it's called Sakura. I think the Hong Kong film makers might have used it. Some reason I've been thinking about that film and want to film a Kung Fu movie. The 8mm iPhone app has it.

[@thelostvisuals]

Suprised at the s5 continuous shots on the tennis ball... I was very much considering one but these types of examples put me off a bit as shoot a lot of motion

[@MicroFourNerds]

To be fair, I think the objects were very close to camera. During this test (I only had the GH6 for 2 weeks at this time, I’ve bought one since) the Uk was hit by a really bad storm and forced me to “get creative” with indoor alternatives for most of these comparisons. Outdoors, and at an appropriate distance, they all perform better. But I would still say the S5 lags behind the GH6 in AF performance now I’ve had a lot of real world experience with them both

[@thelostvisuals]

@@MicroFourNerds really helpful stuff, thanks for the quick reply! I'm in the UK too and basically frantically hunting down my next camera body to upgrade from my canon m50 which I feel just leaves me wanting more in multiple areas.. the s5 was high up, but your videos and some others have got me thinking about perhaps even considering the G9 as I primarily shoot stills, low light is my only worry really

[@stumpfwinklig298]

At the iso test you`re pushing the gh5 file at exposure +1.85 and the gh6 file only with +1. or i am wrong?

[@MicroFourNerds]

Yes I was just eyeballing it as I was reviewing the images, to be honest, nothing sinister 😊 they were both taken with the same settings and same lens. all the cameras were very under exposed at the lower ISO’s so I had to put the exposure up a bit so everything could be seen in the video. I think the most accurate test for all the cameras is the middle one - the 6400 - as that exposure was right for the environment so there was no need to do anything in Lr

[@stumpfwinklig298]

@@MicroFourNerds absolute stunning! i hope panasonic will build a g9 mark2 :)

[@BobK58]

Pentax!

[@toofy7253]

Amazing production quality and story boarding. I just came for knowledge, but what you gave us was both entertainment and knowledge. You may be able to charge other youtubers for consults on how they can improve their own videos. I'd love to pay for that when making my next video! At your production level, please do 4k because I have an accurate color monitor for pixel peeping camera reviews :) Thank you for adding value to the you tube community

[@MicroFourNerds]

Thank you so much! I’ve really tried to double the time I’m spending on each video, to make all the little bits a bit more engaging! I am definitely uploading in 4k from now on it’ll definitely help with these sorts of comparisons 😁 thanks so much for watching!

[@Clickumentary]

hey that was really fun. I've never heard of anyone hand-holding night shots but wow.. Love the idea of GH6 (I have G9 now) but I'm a *little* nervous about the sh*tty AF performance as an all-around cam. I'm sure better than my G9 but that admittedly sucks.

[@MicroFourNerds]

It’s absolutely snappy honestly. I mean the gh5 and s5 are more than useable in every day events, and the gh6 is even better. I think…. Oh I’m getting on my high horse here 😂 but unless you’re a KZbinr sticking something at the screen every few minutes the auto focus from all these cameras is superb! If you have a g9 you’ll see a big improvement with the gh6 but the g9 is great to begin with imo 😊

[@williamburkholder769]

If you are not a filmmaker (i.e.; you are a blogger or a 'video enthusiast", rather than a professional), then Lumix gear might not fill the bill for you. NO, continuous autofocus is not the strongest feature of these cameras. But those of us who buy them usually do so for a combination of many other features that outweigh full frame and great PDAF… for us.

[@Clickumentary]

@@williamburkholder769 I do understand everyone is not after stellar AF but this is the evolution of the hybrid video camera. I'm not pre-planning scenes and rack focusing, etc. I am the everything including the kitchen sink creative snapping everything and everyone and sometimes id love to have a cam that confidentiality locks on a subject and holds it there. Without pulsing. It's a process. I've been at this for a long time and won't replace my G9 (or augment it) until I'm sold. I'm not going Sony either. Maybe Canon.

[@stefanhikingstevens920]

youre a drummer 👏

[@matthiasschluter3060]

Ich weiß warum ich bei MFT bleiben werde... und warte auf den Nachfolger der G9.... Many Thanks

[@snappychappy]

I really liked the G100, ....because I don't have the other 3.

[@Hene1]

Its nice video, but really takes a hit by being 1080p and quite low bitrate. The noise comparison is almost pointless due low resolution and low bitrate combined with KZbin processing.

[@MicroFourNerds]

Yup. Everything after this video is now in lovely 4k. Lesson learned