LUMIX S5 VS BMPCC6K DYNAMIC RANGE COMPARISON

[@fijiweddingvideographyphot1585]

This guy only has 319 Subcribers, but level of reviews and comparison is way beyond of other youtubers who have more than 100K Subcribers. Amazing work, real world examples like shooting in front of windows is just perfect.

[@colors6692]

LOL you got no reply from Peter even though you tried!

[@weierm89]

so true

[@BALL_BUZZ]

The key is they post often which keeps them in the algorithm. If this guy posted at least 1 video a week he would have at least 10K to 20k subscribers right now. People can't subscribe if you don't have your videos popping up on their homepage.

[@willvazquez3218]

Thank you Peter for taking the time to do these wonderful tests. They answered a lot of questions. There are some colors that the Pocket 6K does better than the S5 according to your tests, but then there are some colors that the S5 does better. And the recoverable shadow detail in the S5 is amazing. I'm sold on the S5. It's interesting, but you may be able to get better color if you try a different LUT. I bought the Juan Melara P6K2ALEXA LUT and I use it on the Pocket 6K footage and I am able to match my Arri Alexa shots very closely. I took the same LUT and applied it to some Panasonic S1 V-Log footage I had downloaded and I was amazed. It pulls out certain color variation subtleties that I couldn't get otherwise on the S1. You should give it a try. It's only $30 bucks. It may map out the colors on your S5 footage to give you a better red on that door. Now the question is, S5 or A7SIII? I think that side-by-side, the S5 would probably render nicer skin tones than the Sony, but the Sony's rock-solid autofocus and full frame 4K60 and 4K120 make it a tough call. I guess I should buy both the S5 and the A7SIII. Haha.

[@shootMEpeter]

No Prob! Its only in side by side you really see these differences. If I have a low budget job where I dont want to hassle with everything that comes with the bmpcc6k I'll use the S5. Juan Melara is great! Ill have to check out his luts. I have been following Waqas Qazi, his colorgrading tutorials are killer! Juan doesnt post that much. I dont use luts that often, only film luts everyonce in a while. A7s3 is killer but its a one trick pony for me. There will be soon other cameras that shoot 4k 120, ill probably wait.

[@diskomiks]

Do you by any chance remember if you used any lut to grade this s5 footage? Just bought it and the official vlog lut gives me red pink skintones and and it's super frustrating.

[@mrwashur1991]

The blackmagic is shooting "Raw" (while not true raw, it is barley processed compared to the panasonic, which means it doesn't have as much NR if any at all applied. You need to apply it in post). The same goes for sharpness. Also the first test you did not do right. Re do it at iso 1000 and ETTR on the p6k then bring the iso down a little in post. This is how you retain more stops in the highlights and expose for the dark subject. You bring the iso down in post to obtain a cleaner image and get proper exposure after ETTR. I can't stand how many tests are done at iso 400 when this is clearly a situation that you shouldn't use it. Go look at the DR chart for the p6k and you'll see what I am saying. iso 400 is only good for controlled lighting situations and scenes without a ton of highlight information. Also for lowlight 1250 is the sweetspot of the camera and not 3200. 1250 will retain more stops of shadow detail and have a cleaner image. 3200 is usually fine too if needed (yes I'm aware it is the iso that has no gain or negative gain applied) but this is how dual native iso works. I'm getting tired of telling people this and the amount of shear misinformation about how the iso effects the DR allocation of this camera and cameras alike. Your CA is caused by the lens and aperture. Plain and simple and has nothing to do with the camera nor the codec used. Also again the panasonic is processed in camera and could be fixing the CA in camera. If you used the same lenses between the two cameras then this would clearly explain why there is CA on the p6k.

[@josip1382]

Finally someone who understands all of this... Thanks.

[@tonybrown812]

I hope Peter Roessler Understands all that Micah Ross is pointing out. In summary, your settings on the Pocket6k is totally wrong.

[@NathanKatash]

yes most youtubers dont know this information 800-1000 iso give good amount of information in highlights also i owned the s1 and i cant even compare the colors and filmilc look the p6K is far better the DR of panasonic is good but i hate the colors and the slow mostions 120P is unusable and as tone of grain

[@imaginationdevice]

100%

[@VideographerGreece]

@@NathanKatash 120 fps om s1h much better in fhd vs bm6k in 2.6k - Like a soap. I saw dozens video on ytb, it cant be upscaled to 4k. But Panasonic fhd 120 fps u can upscale and result is good.

[@lubostoev9924]

Nice comparison, you really put in time and effort into the video. Thanks for your work. Really shows what lumix s5 is capable of. I would love to see a comparison of the BMPCC6K vs Lumix S5 Mark 2, that will be really awesome

[@Thevikingcam]

This made my choice clear, S5 it is. Ordered :D

[@NatLifeSounds]

​@@Thevikingcam they did you choise wrong :D Blackmagic have no such noises in such shots like here, it's something that autor did with a options, ISO etc ;)

[@Thevikingcam]

@@NatLifeSounds nah, s5 is full frame. And is photo camera. AF too.

[@NatLifeSounds]

@@Thevikingcam depends from what you need. I have a full frame camera, and I need a cinematic camera not a digital camera. My Google Pixel can do the same amazing digital pictures

[@ManWithACam-u4t]

Its so nice to see someone doing a proper dynamic range test in which we can see results in a real setting.

[@shootMEpeter]

Out of the shadows. Thanks! That was the goal, something we as camera users, can see. Glad the examples worked out!

[@jordanlin4437]

I feel like shooting raw is what caused the noise, since typically H.264 encodings have noise reduction baked-in. I would have loved to see the BMPCC6K exposed to its 'full potential,' that is, with the highlights overexposed but pulled back in post (which is possible due to RAW).

[@shootMEpeter]

Jordan Lin yeah raw is noisier, I’ve had the Bmpcc6k for a while and I’m confident in the way I exposed it. I set the highlights to the point where they were just recoverable and the highlight recovery box wasn’t needed.

[@stefantasic9271]

Don't forget S5 has an FF sensor with larger pixel pitch, so it's also more light sensitive. Sure Panasonic is doing some NR in-camera, but so is blackmagic - although to a much lesser degree. Braw is partially debayered in camera, and there is a light NR tweaking in there too. That's why they got almost half a stop of DR on the UMP with braw. It's cleaner in the shadows if you compare it to CDNG.

[@shootMEpeter]

Stefan Tasic in all reality, I would consider the DR of these cameras to be close enough for any project I would work on. The S5 is now my roninS cam 100% due to the fact it will match colors well (with a little more work than what I put into the vid) with the Bmpcc6k. Not to mention FF, super light, and autofocus. Curious to see what raw coming out of it does, hopefully braw at some point via BM monitor.

[@stefantasic9271]

@@shootMEpeter Absolutely. For most jobs both will do just fine. The choice comes down to other things, like if you need active cooling, or if you need a true hybrid, but in terms of image quality both cameras come pretty close. It will be interesting to see how prores raw compares.

[@anrikola3884]

You right the S5 has a softer image.... Bmpcc6k it is sharper and that means S5 it is using some auto noise reduction....

[@felipecourtois7883]

i been looking at alot of BMPCC 6k vs Everything (C70, A7siii, s5, GH6 etc.) and I can't get over how much more "filmic" the BlackMagic 6k cameras produces vs specifically Panasonic, whose image seems to be very digital and video-y. BlackMagic has that...filmic look...for me its in the movement, and overall 'look' of the image - i.e. even in the simple panning tests from 7:11 to 7:41, the s5 image seems to be rendering frame to frame or something - like there's a bit of a stutter due to the codec itself whereas, the BlackMagic seems to be flowing easily, creating a more believable scene - everything looks organic, like its supposed to be there. Just wanted to know if anyone else thought the BM crushes any camera around it's price range, if its the filmic look one's going for.

[@NatLifeSounds]

Absolutely agreed with you. I also see how BM is looks like cinematic and Panasonic in same time as perfect digital. But Cinematic means more organic than just perfect digital.For digital we can use smartphones which every next year doing a better quality of images.

[@ivanbratchykov2279]

Come lens also important to achieve the cinematic look​@@NatLifeSounds

[@LucaBono.Studio]

I'm using the S1 for one year now, that shares the same sensor and DR, and I'm really happy with the results I'm getting from it! Panasonic did a great job with these codecs!

[@alibinfarman]

Panasonic has always been good for video. But autofocus really sucks. Which is a shame.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

@@alibinfarman I don't use autofocus...so it's fine for me.

[@shootMEpeter]

Luca Bono great to hear! As a non-autofocus user (Bmpcc6k life). The autofocus works great for me. I can Setup the S5 for an interview and go concentrate on the 2nd cam.

[@tijmenbrouwers]

@@shootMEpeter doesn't it have problems with the background in these interview situations? Saw quite some video's where the background pulses quite a bit, which is distracting.

[@richnation8799]

You sir are a freakin genius !! Thanks for this comparison test . I was getting tired of everyone else’s “ s5 has horrible focus” videos

[@shootMEpeter]

yeah man. Thanks!

[@str8poisintv131]

true but af is becoming so reliable especially with these smaller mirrorless cameras, being able to fly on a gimble or steady cam with reliable af and 10bit....oh boy this would destroy everything in its price range

[@zubaido2]

Thank you so much, I wasn’t sure which one to get. Now I know. Great video, keep up the good work 💪🏼

[@johngriffin641]

In my tests the S5/S1 in V-log has about a stop more DR than the P6K but the BRAW codec is much more flexible in terms of actually exploiting large DR scenes and you can ‘break’ the internal codec on the S5 so the practical advantage is less. Once you start to use NR in resolve the shadow depth in the P6K is remarkable. Not just tonal detail but also colour separation. For high ISO the S1/5 really pulls ahead and they are true low light cameras. Good as the S1/5 are in tests and specs the colour ‘ fidelity’ of the P6K is enough ahead to choose it over the S1/5 if situations allows. They both complement each other so any serious shooter should own both esp if you shoot high frame rates as the aps-c crop on the S1/5 is very much inferior to the P6k full frame.

[@LukePollack]

Been using my S1 for a while, but I pre-ordered the s5, great video, keep it up man, you deserve more subs!

[@Tigerex966]

Why might I ask?

[@James-xm4ki]

Thank you so much for taking the time to do this. It was very informative and thoughtfully articulated.

[@followtheboat]

GH5 user here, needing to get a new cam soon as mine is absolutely battered! I was drawn to the S5 as soon as I read about it and have been watching a ton of videos on it. I was pretty convinced already but this video seals the deal. You now have 230 subscribers 😁

[@NeroMC]

You still have the s5?

[@followtheboat]

@@NeroMC no, I still have the GH5 😅

[@ryanhinmanfilms]

Just bought this in 2022. This sold me - Thanks Peter. Got the camera and two lenses for about $2300 BRAND NEW. KILLER SALE right now.

[@TheMash84]

This video is so well done, goes in depth into the matter, great job! I purchased the S5 few days ago after watching countless review! Unfortunately I found this video after the purchase, but I'm glad to see that your thorough tests, which represents real world scenario, confirms the good quality of this camera and its sensor/image processor! The fact it's so good just using the internal recording is fantastic. Having a Ninja V, I will try to record in RAW for sure! Unfortunately not having a Mac I'm stuck with Premiere Pro for editing RAW, and as a new Davinci Resolve user is a big downside (not S5 fault though of course). I put a like on your video of course and you gained a new subscriber! Thanks for your work in this video.

[@joshkiddfilms1295]

Thanks for putting this together. I've shot a lot on the S5 sensor in other cameras that use it too, and a good bit on the P6k/Zcam S6 sensor. Both are quality sensors, but the full frame sensor is just better all around. The full frame sensor just has very clean shadows and great low light performance. When the light goes its easy to see which camera is better. It would be interesting to see this test again once Pro Res RAW is released for S5, and see how that compares to the braw

[@shootMEpeter]

Josh Kidd Films yeah man! It’s crazy the discussions I get into with my RED shooting friends about how amazing these cameras are (S5, Bmpcc6k etc). I’m def looking forward to trying out the raw. The only issue for me is I edit on a pc and in resolve, hopefully BM comes up with a way to read the raw camera data and turn it into braw. Proresraw seems pretty limited from what I’m reading (no white balance adj, very limited controls). Thanks for taking part in the discussion!

[@HasaanFazal]

@@shootMEpeter latest update has enabled the white balance adjustment for prores raw. Interestingly... This adjustment is available in select cams. S1H has it... Will see if S5 gets it too.

[@HasaanFazal]

@@shootMEpeter kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnnXqH-Ah7qBe8U here is the link. Let us know if this update is any better compared to actual raw or even braw.

[@shootMEpeter]

Thanks! But the firmware for raw isn’t out yet for the S5 right? I think Panasonic said it’s coming later.

[@HasaanFazal]

@@shootMEpeter yes raw update for s5 isn't out yet. I was just mentioning the white balance adjustment part that has been taken care of in latest final cut pro update

[@jtx119]

Excellent points. Love the fact that you test each camera to its best effort. That’s truly a way to have a fair test. I own both LUMIX and Sony. I shoot the a7s and the S5. Both have great image quality and both have differences. I see that because I shoot each camera to its strengths. Thanks for the review.

[@crawfoproductions4418]

Wow. This is great. I literally just pre ordered the S5 and this video just made me that much more happy that I did! Thank you!. New sub here! Great channel! 🙌

[@shootMEpeter]

Crawfo Productions congrats! Your gonna like the S5. It’s a pretty awesome cam. Your gonna enjoy grading the footage too with that full vlog!

[@crawfoproductions4418]

Peter Roessler Very excited! Thank you! Should match up good with my gh5 I hope! Need to buy v log for that one still. Boooo! 👎 lol

[@shootMEpeter]

Crawfo Productions I’m assuming it will match up. I had someone shooting bts for with a Gh5s on my other S5 vid and it seemed to match. Not sure if (Gh5s color=gh5 color). Ha you’ll figure it out!

[@thebentzenable]

I just bought the S5 I 2023 and I am amazed about the skin tones and overall image quality 🥰👌

[@RyanDelosReyes]

Why do you have only 1.5K subscribers. We can see that you care about the output and put an effort to make the review less of a YT-style content and trying it to make it more cinematic, so to speak. New sub here.

[@JonackFilm]

You just have a new subscribe this test was so professionell 👍 greetings from a S5 Owner from Berlin Germany

[@DajonTv]

The best test i ever seen, thank you

[@shaddyshaman6227]

Panasonic is still so videoish. There's no match of Raw footage vs H.264 to a trained eye. S5 is a great camera, would be even greater if it shot raw video in camera. I am torn between Sigma FP and Panasonic S5. The only thing is I do a lot of photography with strobes and Sigma FP can sync only upto 1/15 sec. What a disaster. P.S. keep making videos, you explain stuff very nicely. Would love to see more content here. Already subbed.

[@mahdiyussuf9804]

I've never seen such noisy blackmagic footage before. What did you do wrong?

[@BK42Cycles]

Excellent video, I love the way you compared them! Good work Peter. Your new friend in Warsaw :)

[@lee8org]

By far the best review of the cameras for me.Thanks Peter.

[@TheDIYFilmmaker]

This is a fantastic comparison Peter. Thank you so much for sharing!

[@CaitlinBurt]

Great review. I love the lack of chillstep music too. Thinking of getting the s5

[@laughingboy-tk6ut]

cheers man - not too scientific - not too run and gun - a pragmatic and artistic test - much appreciated - subbed - i kept seeing little bits and pieces on youtube about how clean panasonic's image was and you just confirmed it - would love to see you do an ibis test - there are very few online ibis tests and you might get some good views on such a test - i'm thinking sony vs panny vs fuji vs canon - anyway, peace :)

[@KAIROSMMA]

I’d like to know the glass used for each camera. As well as if you graded in Da Vinci.

[@MysitcSoul]

Being a stock footage creator, I learnt lesson that never invest money in DSLR systems. Those work better for youtube work. But for pure commercial needs those fail pretty badly. Invest money into the camera which is purely optimized for video. If I have to choose between the two for footage work, I will go for BMPCC 6k any day. I can manage the footage in post production.

[@shootMEpeter]

MysticSoul yeah the Bmpcc6k is a beast and would fit into most high end production workflows. These little mirrorless cameras have come a long way though! I don’t know if we will be able to define how good a camera is by the body it comes in for long!

[@MysitcSoul]

@@shootMEpeter The core issue is 4k or 6k still remains the size of image. It does not have any correlation with quality. That's where DSLR makers pull the wool before eyes. Old folks still trust 12MP camera with good sensor size and great pixel quality. Almost all DSLR makers fool the people by just scaling the size. The quality of sensor remains good for images not for video.

[@triplescale]

MysticSoul does that also mean the Sony a7SIII is an exception with its 12MB sensor?

[@goddyab]

@IM HO well said!

[@vaidehiarts]

Hi Pete, it would be lovely to see a follow up video to this one next month (hopefully you still have access to these cameras).. but shooting BRAW 12 Bit 6K on the S5. This will make the comparison fairer and also reveal what the footage would look like without in-camera corrections on the S5. You would probably need a 12G HDR Recorder, of course. Thanks for this video though. It is a beautiful comparison, and relevant because these cameras do compete in a similar price range as cinema cameras.

[@heroaomedia]

Just subscribed and really loved this. A Panasonic rep recommended it so you're being watched lol! You should ask for a free camera :p I have the S1H but we're looking for some new cameras at work and the debate is between the S5 and the BMPCC6K so this is perfect timing! Everything is stronger with the S5 except for that one point about the BMPCC6K looking more filmic. The BMPCC6K almost blooms in the highlights. I'd be curious to see how the S5 looked with a 1/8th promist compared to the BMPCC6K. I'm also curious about how the S1H would compare with OLPF. Maybe your next video!

[@MysitcSoul]

If Panasonic rep recommended it to you. Peter may have got it for free already. :-)

[@low100k9]

Use vintage glasses on the s5, turns the s5 into a whole different animal

[@AllThingsFilm1]

I own the BMPCC4K. And I just preordered the S5. Part of the reason I looked into the S5 is that I've been shooting with Panasonic for a while. I shot a feature film on the GH5 and it came out great. After seeing this, I am glad I'll be getting the S5. There is the talk of the AF in the S5, but I saw a KZbinr adjust the AF settings and get pretty reliable AF response out of it. Either way, the S5 looks really good. Thanks for this video.

[@shootMEpeter]

VFX Todd I think you will be as pleasantly surprised as I was when you start using the S5. In the hands of someone who knows what they are doing you won’t really miss the bmpcc4k sad to say. AF is really up to how you use the camera. I just started filming myself (I always film interviews of other people/subjects) and autofocus is a dream to have. Notice in this vid my Bmpcc6k footage of myself is out of focus and the lit shots of the S5 are locked on. That’s Autofocus working and that’s all I need! For gimbal work as well! S5 is my new gimbal cam for sure! Thanks for watching and taking part in the discussion!

[@CarlosAlvaradoPhotography]

Thanks for taking the time to show us this! You've got a new sub here.

[@rblongfellow]

Great job 👌 really awesome review and super helpful

[@DawahDigital]

ok so I was gonn a go for the 6k Pro but after watching a bunch of vid reviews, I'm really lovoing the s5 MK2 now... it's just ... beastly!

[@Clickumentary]

I've had my S5 on order w/BH and I've been teetering on decision to pull the plug in favor of a better focusing system.. watching this low light footage again just sort of talked me off the ledge lol. Thanks again :)

[@shootMEpeter]

Yeah this cam has amazing image quality. The autofocus is great for what I use it for (interviews). Enjoy the cam!!

[@thelightroom8389]

Thankyou for making this comparison video. I've been considering an s5.

[@BoredXRP]

Youve helped me end my search for a entry level camera. Thank you.

[@shootMEpeter]

Excellent news! Glad to help. Looking forward to seeing what you make with it!

[@MRMSFamily]

Hi Mr. Peter, Did you shoot in 6K or 2.5K? Do you shoot BRAW or ProRest? BRAW tend to introduce more noise than ProRest, that's normal for RAW video. That's why you need to Denoise the image before you Grade/ColorBalance, and then sharpen it at the end (to match baked image from S5) ProRest will produce more baked data (less noise), but also has a great flexibility in post in HQ mode. Downscaling 6K BRAW to 4K or shoot 4K in ProRes (to match s5) has lower noise but maintain more detail in 4k container. Small tips from me, use False Color instead of Zebra to get more precise exposure control. Blue Color tend to pronounce more noise and hard to recover, Red and Violet are clipped. ISO base 400 to 1000 better in recovering highlight. Start from ISO 1250 to 25600 better in recovering Shadow (that's probably why you got more noise 02:11 ) Please take a look to the chart bellow images.app.goo.gl/nZgFnxn2FzxsNMJdA In the day, I will keep the exposure in Green and maximum Light Grey/Pink At night, I will keep the exposure maximum light Grey/Pink and lower at Blue. Always avoid Yellow and Violet. Hope it helps. Cheers

[@shootMEpeter]

Rikza Azriyan Film hey there! Thanks for such a detailed response! So as stated in the video, there is no point, in my opinion, to do a test catering one camera to the others disadvantages. I shot braw on the black magic at 6k (what I would do on every shoot). I don’t shoot prores, why would you, when you have 12bit braw at such amazing file sizes? The iso debate is always there. I was exposing to the right, not for middle grey. So, 100-1000 is the same iso and everything use being captured at 400. Only when you are exposing for middle grey at various ISO’s are you adjusting your exposure and gaining or losing highlight/shadow info. I think the test came out pretty close! No one won or lost! Thanks for keeping up the dialogue on this!

[@innstikk]

Thanks. A bit strange that in some of the shots the BMPCC6K is soft compared to S5, while for moire test the S5 looks very soft. Why is that? And would be nice if you could comment on the ISOs for the lowlight parts.

[@S.Creations1]

Awesome comparison! Audio quality was fantastic. What microphone did you use for this?

[@MrDreddnoughtOS]

Fantastic job man!! Thank you very much!! A lot of people saying that blackMagic make "more cinematic" footage but here you can see that it depends actually and very achievable with panasonic in particular.

[@mattyskier]

Finally someone who shoots ETTR in real situations for a dynamic range test! Subscribed and looking forward to future content!

[@shootMEpeter]

ETTR for the win! ha. Yeah man! Thanks

[@my1978z]

Exactly what I was looking for. Was planning on getting the bmpcc6k, but decided on the S5 instead

[@shootMEpeter]

good call! you will love it! post some of your creations when you get it!

[@Clickumentary]

wow that's a big decision. I'm also leaning S5, but my only reservations are a) Leica lens lineup, b) autofocus .. less of an issue tbh

[@shootMEpeter]

My setup is (2) bmpcc4k and a Bmpcc6k for main camera. The S5 is now my roninS camera, it’s super light. Lenses are def an issue. AF works great for anything I do. If you notice in this vid my Bmpcc6k shot is out of focus because I shot myself. The S5 is searching in the super dark shots but is fine in everything else.

[@drknoba]

Dam good comparison man. You deserve 100K subscribers.

[@HDBerlin]

Great, but Very important is to know what lenses you used?

[@CGPhotoKandou]

Such a nice comparison video. So calming and i can see everything i wanted to know. Its amazing! More of that please

[@LeePfalmer]

Thank you so much for this review, incredibly helpful.

[@doronritter]

Can you do thos again when all camera record raw file ? I thinks that not authentic ,,.

[@shootMEpeter]

With prores raw? Yeah I was going to, but the workflow for prores raw sucks! haha. Im not convinced at the moment its worth it for me personally.

[@federicoprietovideo]

Thanks. Nice edition. Is te slow motion 60fps?

[@markkayongo6191]

Yeah I need to put a total Distinction when it comes to Dynamic range of These two so I am asking does it also depend on the type of lens one is using?

[@chovuse]

Is there a possibility for a reshoot now that the S5 has got the RAW update ? That was an interesting comparison . Thanx

[@shootMEpeter]

Yeah! I took the S5 out and shot some prores raw. First impressions were that, Shooting prores raw on the S5 is just as much of a pain as the battery life is on the bmpcc6k. The battery life of the ninja is horrible, and as a PC editor, prores raw doesnt fit into my workflow. IQ of the prores raw looks good tho!

[@chovuse]

@@shootMEpeter Ohh ok that was a surprise about the Ninja V battery life. What a shame. Thanks anyways. I have Seen your other videos on your work with the photos and videos. Very impressive. You have great technic.

[@50450720]

Very helpful video, I'm looking to upgrade from my gh5, and this really helped. Thanks for taking the time to do the comparison 👍

[@johncarambat4762]

Very helpful review, I'm glad it went in that direction. I had an S5 on back order since October lol

[@walrusgumboot]

What the hell, how do you only have 137 subscribers? Subbed. Nice work

[@shootMEpeter]

Ha thanks! Working on it. This is only my second video. Hoping to grow!

[@walrusgumboot]

Peter Roessler if you keep making stuff like this, I’m sure you will!

[@praetorian3571]

Panasonic S5 is so underrated camera....

[@NoomSuwinit]

From Thailand,Thank you so much for do the it's the test that i want to see.Great job!

[@shootMEpeter]

Hey Thailand! I miss your country! Can’t wait to go back. Thank you!

[@RvonA]

nice test thx

[@shootMEpeter]

RvonA no prob and thank u

[@viceroyvisuals]

Can you please share the accessory you used to mount the camera on top of the pocket?

[@MR.BUCK_MAN]

how did you shoot yourself by yourself ? I use old OG bmpcc but i am having hard time to shoot myself for youtube.

[@SteveMayedaTV]

Great video man

[@ju2705s]

Great real life test. I am greatful to pre ordered the S5. Thx a lot!

[@chevonpetgrave4991]

What blackmagic color science version was used in this review.

[@DoctorMajedMalak]

This is very very useful video... I think most of the people are not full time video creators and just want to have personal channel to share thoughts while they don't have the ability to set complete nice studio! So they need a camera with decent dynamic range and good audio..this video answer important question for those in the market with reasonablebudget.

[@buddyfx7026]

What a fun little video that's well presented. I own a bmpcc and two gh5 cameras and was considering an s5. It's so hard to keep only one camera 😅 Btw instant sub, I'm looking forward to more so thank you! Comments section of awesome too 😁

[@shootMEpeter]

Hey thanks! Much appreciated. I’m a fan of a lot of people making vids on KZbin and I decided to take part sharing my experiences. It’s great to find an interested community and have positive discussions! Looking forward to making more!!

[@buddyfx7026]

@@shootMEpeter can't wait!

[@darrylsmith3102]

You're chromatic aberration is dictated by your lenses optics, Also, Noise can and will be introduced by the Speed of your lens when Not shooting in the camera's Native ISO. When doing these type of tests, You must use the same exact glass and industry Codecs on Both, Or the test means nothing. Do the test on both cameras in ProRez 4:2:2 10 or 12 Bit and the results will surprise you. Just giving you a Heads Up.

[@AnimeZone247]

noise is dictated by where your exposure lies on the ire scale, let's your aperture is a f/11, that's pretty slow. But if you add enough lights to bring your image from the noise floor then you wont have any noise, regardless of what number your aperture is set. Iso (not from raw images) makes your sensor more sensitive to light, once you raise your iso you're also raising your noise floor, so you're making it in more prominent thus reducing your dynamic range. Both the aperture and iso can introduce noise, but as long as your exposure is not hitting the noise floor then it doesn't matter what number are on those settings. Hope this helps :).

[@seifenhasedreizehn4077]

That doesn't make sense, if you wanna compare apples and pears you gotta taste both and say what you like more. One camera is h264, the other Braw. Test to the strengths and use cases and compare the footage.

[@JoshuaStancea]

Darryl is absolutely correct, but I'd like to add to what he said. Just because iso 400 is the native ISO on the pocket doesn't mean it's the better ISO. When you're shooting Braw, it doesn't matter since all the info is saved. ISO 100 is dramatically cleaner than 400, so stopping down the aperture to prevent overexposure (highlights that can be saved in post) while forcing the camera to shoot at iso 400 puts the Pocket 6K at a strong disadvantage.

[@francissosing]

Great comparison sir

[@ruff1draft]

Peter are you going to use the Panasonic S5 Mark ii and Panasonic S5 Mark ii X

[@adrianzaharia8885]

Bmpcc 6K is a great camera in good lighting conditions. I own it for over an year. But it's time to sell it. I need a camera with low light capabilities and not necesarelly a cinema camera. I think I will go for a S5. It also has ibis so i can go handheld(I used a GH5 for an year and it was great).

[@mk1814]

Great work 👍 thank a lot ❤️

[@HustlewithVideos]

Great video comparison Peter! Love Panasonic’s colours and built quality. Definitely leaning more towards S5 😃 thanks again for this video 💪

[@shootMEpeter]

My pleasure! Yeah its a great cam! again as an avid RAW shooter and BM fanboy, the S5 blew me away. Let me know what your thoughts are when you get it!

[@Alexrocks1253]

I think the color shift happens on the Blackmagic because it has a problem with red clipping with BRaw generation 4 after being transformed to r709. Generation 5 fixed this

[@DG-mo1zf]

great video...sold my S1R a few months ago and still regret it. I think I'll be picking up the S5 soon!

[@alantuttphotography]

Good reminder to use zebras when setting exposures to protect important highlights, and maximize useable dynamic range.

[@marco.trerotola.filmmaker]

Full-frame vs Apsc = The winner is always full-frame, there is no way.

[@umpopablebubble]

i love my s5, vlog is just very easy to work with and with open boxes of these going for like $1500 online right now theyre kind of a steal

[@VLAD_KLYCH]

How do you colorgrade log footage?

[@FilmDat]

Great video! If money wasn't an issue; would it still be a smart to pick up the S1H over the S5? I'm having a hard time finding the right pro's and cons.

[@ntsarb]

I'd buy the S1H if money wasn't an issue. It has a better sensor (to manage noir), better cooling, full size HDMI port and camera sync.

[@sondrevestheim]

i think both the cromatic aberration and the higher noise on the bpmcc6k is due to the fact that shooting raw doesn’t process the image? Over all pretty amazing how close these caeras are. Great video!🤩👌🏻

[@leventebaumann6001]

Thank You! Great test!

[@GlenReed]

Great job man! Definitely a good real world comparison. Keep up the good work! New sub here 😉

[@shootMEpeter]

Glen Reed thanks glen! And thanks for the sub!

[@TheRealistFan]

Wow! Thank u so much for this comparison.I've been researching for a few months now btwn the G9,S5 and the BMPCC4K.A because of these REAL TIME examples and GREAT EXPLANATION of flaws and differences btwn the 2 it looks like the S5 is the way to go.Body only,I'm looking at $8-$900 used.With kit lens around $12-13.Is the kit lens good enough or do u have a lens recommendation?

[@smalldeekgeorge]

can you do it again with sharpness and noise reduction set to -5 on panasonic! Please!

[@12oto12]

after I finished the video I was surprised at the "119" subscribers, I thought that this comparison was really well made. now you have "120" lol

[@shootMEpeter]

Jordan Rotert ya thanks Jordan! Just started 2 weeks ago! Hoping to build. Thanks for the sub!

[@Arkadiusz4321]

vlog set on the s5 in this video?

[@adonisvlassis]

Thank you for this video.I'm between these 2 cameras and this comparison was helpfull..

[@pudelkopf1093]

for the low light shots, IDK what lens you used but with my sigma 18 - 35 I get much better results in low light with my bmpcc4k and the metabones speedbooster.

[@britishnomad]

great testing and thanks for sharing your findings.. greetings from Sweden... cheers.

[@shootMEpeter]

Thanks! Sweden, I need to go there. Its on the list

[@joshdiditt]

Do you see a difference in quality from the 6k opposed to the S5? Im thinking about getting the Video Assist 12g for my S5 just to record 5.9k but not sure how big the difference is in terms of quality

[@ChrisScottNI]

This was great thanks

[@twmedia-film]

Going from the Canon T6I and finally getting a new camera. Leaning heavy towards the S5 but I realize that I will probably be very content with whatever I get

[@DronographerEU]

thanks for this fantastic comparison! as my name says, i'm more into aerial shot, but I was looking for a good ground cam for long. canon's r5 overheating monster didn't impress me. sony's a7siii also didn't get me - (12mp sensor would be a bit low for photography - since I also wanna do photography). So I almost went for the bmp6k, since some of the ground teams I work with use them with satisfying results. but then this baby appeared... and I wondered how it would compare with other cams. I saw a "low light" test and it didn't feel it like has to hide from the sony a7siii. And now your video also shows that it's quite competitive with the bmp6k 👍might go for it. yes i know, it doesn't have a "good" autofocus as those other guys, but in pro video creation that is not such a big deal 😅

[@shootMEpeter]

You got it! Everything you are thinking is on track for me as well. It’s funny regarding autofocus: my Bmpcc6k was out of focus because I had to film myself (something I haven’t done much of) and the S5 was right on, even if it was searching in super dark situations. My only current issue with the S5 is lens options. EF-Lmount adapters are $200, which is silly for a glorified spacer to me. Hopefully there will be more super fast lens options coming out soon! You won’t be disappointed. PS I’m gonna study your channel, just got the Mavic air 2 and have been figuring out why HDR doesn’t expose properly! Thanks for your interest!

[@paulbeckmann]

Thanks for a great test! Panasonic S5 is worth every penny! BM 6K PRO(not in this test obviously:) will be a big contender for the most sold cam to indie filmmakers.

[@BijuViswanathfilmmaker]

thank you . the best comparison in youtube. subscribed. i am cinematographer deciding which camera to buy ,mainly for indie films. i used to have a bmpcc 4k. i read somewhere that S5 shoots 24 fps in lower bit rates around 150mps. i don't care about numbers. in your opinion did you find ay difference in image quality. whats tempting about s5 is full frame and image stabilization which will help in run and gun indie scenario. please let me know

[@BjornarFrantzen]

I just ordered the S5. Im coming from a SonyA6000, so you can imagine the level of excitement i brewing right now.

[@JoATTech]

Was low light shot also with base ISO? But which base for BMPCC 6k? Since it's dual ISO.

[@shootMEpeter]

Low light was shot in the higher range of the dual ISO (6400 for the outdoor restaurant - which is 3200 base ISO with a digital gain to 6400)

[@alexeilock8333]

Pretty interesting comparison. Very useful information for taking a decision between both cameras.

[@dongyo69]

Well done dude! Thx