I’m not buying the Blackmagic Pocket 6K Pro - After 1 month of testing

[@coreyrobn]

❤️ 6k Pro. It’s become the perfect Situational B cam. We just shot pickups for a feature two days ago and used the Alexa Mini as the A cam for all static shots and the Pocket 6 Pro on an RS2 held out the window for all of our driving/ motion shots. Matched like a charm with the buttery LUTS and a slight grade!

[@thatbencrane]

I would love to see a video of this on your channel!

[@coreyrobn]

@@thatbencrane Making it noooooowwww

[@thatbencrane]

Let's gooo

[@TJ-po9ol]

Proof people will complain no matter what you do as a manufacturer

[@thebreakdown96]

@PRIVATE Bro you think your so wise 🤣 he's obviously saying this guy complains too much (in this case literally about nothing). Stop with the oh so cliche internet platitudes. 😂

[@GoWokeGoBroke2023]

just add more light. lazy ass

[@amalng]

In this case keep it in nd 4 and dial the f stop until it perfectly exposed. Way better than the extra nd on the front right?! It's fine to loose little bit of that background I mean a little bit it's not at all a problem what's your opinion?!

[@AllThingsKen]

@@GoWokeGoBroke2023 lol

[@matthewphillips5483]

@@thebreakdown96 "You think you are wise, Mithrandir, but for all of your subtlety, you have not wisdom!"

[@Mr_Moka]

I think we as a community have really misused the terms A cam and B cam. At what point did a camera with internal 6K RAW (with amazing color science), with internal NDs, 5inch monitor, high frame rates etc. not qualify as an A cam? The differences between the two should really come down to dependability and workflow. What ever camera gives you the best image, within your budget and simple workflow to deliver should be your A cam. I think we all have become spoiled in our expectations and just need to talk less and and create more. Because at the end of the day the cameras we are getting now, we could even dream of just 5 years ago especially at this price point.

[@CCozart]

Excellent analysis into aspects of the quality, performance and economy of BMD impact on present day filmmaking. The B camera designation is such a subjective term. One could shoot a feature on a BMCC 2.5k and compete with the best professional images out there. Engineers look at specs, and accountants look at spending the budget allocated for equipment. When a lot of excess money is spent, where the resultant images are truly comparable, there seems to be a need to undercut BMD products with locate "defects" that are highly nuanced. This video's segment, showing the failed built-in ND filters for a highlight correction, is an example. Why would it not occur to a cinematographer to employ additional equipment under special circumstances, like an extra external ND filter? Again as stated; just 5 years ago the specs contained in a P6k Pro or even a Bmpcc 4k, were not available except to high-end production houses. These are A cameras for A cinematographers.

[@Integr8d]

In classic cinema, A cam usually covers the 2-shot, while B cam would cover close-ups.

[@RavikantRai21490]

This right here. Thanks for saying this. The youtuber community is complaining and sometimes using terms like A cam and B cam, and in 2015....Sean Baker shot Tangerine on......an iphone 5s. Does it look as good as modern BMPCC cameras or even the first bmpcc? No, but does it matter? No. Does the story suck you in? 100%. With modern youtubers, it's all just gear porn.

[@adamtemple9417]

No, the next step is to light your scene, not a variable ND or crank up your iso, like a cinema shot

[@shibasalute]

His use-case was for run and gun type of scenarios. Lighting the scene is not always possible a majority of the time.

[@Junochrome]

@@shibasalute he should buy a canon 600D so!

[@jackbozi1607]

Sometimes I just hate these "pros", they just create hell

[@honest_noise]

Dude, grab a matthews double net, skin up some opal or ND the damn window. Heaven forbid even stop down to T3.5. A camera will never be perfect. A lesson to videographers who want to be DPs in the future....let the lighting and shaping up natural light do your heavy lifting. Right time of day, treating the room/windows and supplement lighting will get you 95% there. Fix it in Pre.

[@kieranarmstrongproductions4743]

Give this man a prize. Go to hobby lobby and buy some Muslin for six bucks if you have to 😂 like jeez

[@se7enministries779]

I like your comment. Do people still go to film school or study the craft? The old school D.P.’s never made it about the camera, they made it about the craft. People should watch “Visions of Light.”

[@mikemuponda1781]

The thing with this camera is...for all its shortcomings and workarounds ...the image quality is just phenomenal. The image quality literally makes me shut up 😂

[@aesonica]

This is a total non-issue. Bounce some light.

[@edoardobrugnatelli1879]

I genuinely don’t get the “problem” with the internal nds. If increasing your ISO by literally 1 stop generates that much noise, you’re probably already shooting too high. And if that’s the case then just do the opposite - decrease the ISO by 1 stop and add 2 more stops of light by changing the nd back. Also, 2 stops shouldn’t be that big a deal anyway, unless you’re shooting a scene with an extreme dynamic range and have no way to possibly reduce it (which is pretty rare). I don’t know, to me it just seems to become a problem in very few and specific instances, which happens with everything, since nothing is perfect. Including variable nds, which no matter how expensive they might be, are still 2 circular polarisers stacked on top of each other, which introduces all kinds of other problems. If I’m missing something, please do let me know, I would actually like to know!

[@tbip2001]

Thats exactly what I thought too. I doubt the noise would be appreciable in the ranges we would be increasing from or to in a modern camera. Unless like you say something is very wrong with your setup.

[@bullettin]

Isn't this why we use lights? One could also use some ND gel on the window or something like that. Shooting wide open is choice, but not the only way to do it.

[@edoardobrugnatelli1879]

@@bullettin exactly, I feel like this would only be an issue in a no budget run and gun shoot, in which case I would most likely prefer using the variable nds

[@baqcasanke]

Honesty the whole video is kinda whack.... lots of nit picking problems that dont really exist. I mean he picks up his old rigged camera and is like “theyre basically the same size” even tho his old rigged out camera is easily 3x the size and weight of the 6kpro.... 🤯

[@bullettin]

@@edoardobrugnatelli1879 I usually like his content here, but I feel like he is pushing some bad practices. The current technology allows shooting with less light, but that doesn't mean people should only use available light every time. If someone is trying to balance interior vs. window, that's going to need some artificial lighting. The same look can still be achieved, though. Also, the lenses have an iris for a reason. When I used ENG cameras for news, I tried to go as wide open as possible, and use the internal NDs to stop down. On the lenses I used, I found that closing he iris just a touch actually improved the image. I was still able to get narrow DoF, and the look I was going for.

[@AKGreen]

Why not carry around a 1 stop ND to put on the front when the exposure needs that subtle adjustment?

[@blainecovert8374]

Very good point.

[@raksh9]

Yep. I always have a couple of ND filters in the bag just in case.

[@harshwardhanpatil3030]

Ir pollution

[@ShazammtheProducer]

Ive watched many of your videos really seemed like you were nitpicking with this camera

[@lofihifi792]

The evf, variable nds and battery pack are literally the point.

[@billyoung9538]

There is also the 1500nit outdoor viewable screen they just patched to fix the tint issues. Little need for an external monitor or the EVF now.

[@FernandoTorres-yo1eh]

Meanwhile I'm here using the 1080p BMPCC as my A camera... and I love it.

[@creativecrow6946]

Love that Camera!

[@xLightcrystalx]

Man that's rough

[@FernandoTorres-yo1eh]

@@xLightcrystalx hey, the best camera is the one you have with you

[@deyomash]

Same dude. Best thing ever

[@peterc3619]

I’m here using a canon eos m with magic lantern as my A cam 🥲

[@gearreallydoesntmatter]

I would fine adjust using the shutterpeed. I go off the 180 angle at least once every single video I shoot. Never been an issue.

[@adrienpayet]

Would do the same !

[@asmr_reviews]

How far would you say you can go as far as shutter angle goes

[@fotimtocimziju]

Exactly

[@VivaMediaInc]

We had a previous gen 6k pocket cam, two Sony's A73's, and two Ursa Minis. When the 6K Pro was announced, we sold everything, kept the previous gen 6K and bought two 6K Pros. It's a damn near perfect camera for us. The tilt screen alone was enough of a selling point for us! The built in ND's are also amazing for the style of shoots we go on.

[@Ah_Yote]

@PRIVATE what does that even mean?

[@SimplicityForGood]

ok, that was two years ago.. what now in Mid 2023 would you say is the best camera for a One Man film production company to make street documentaries and short film on your own?! is there any Pro Camcorder that can take 4/4 micro lenses?! and got at least 10 bit, and built in ND filters and continues auto focus ? that is what I am looking for! :)

[@spensersakurai]

Fx6 or c70 I guess.

[@SimplicityForGood]

@@spensersakurai aha, I haven't looked into them yet! will have a look! thanks

[@topicruben]

Ok, not all of us have enough money to have an A cam and a B cam. In my case this is the only camera I own at the present time and I’m very happy with it. I sold my EOS R and changed to this and I don’t regret it a bit, as I said in my video. I’m also very happy about the NDs. If I had the money I would’ve bought the FX6, or even the A7SIII, but for the time being this is awesome! I’m also planning to get the battery grip, not the evf. Thanks 🙏

[@RawDeal-mo1ng]

Yeah, same here brother, I am a one camera shawdy lol, but these videos will have you wanting new cameras when really you just need more stuff to go with the camera you have. But great shooting to you brother.

[@Milan-cf1xe]

How is you experience so far with the Bmpcc 6k? I used to shoot manual focus but since a year i have a Sony a6300 and use autofocus everytime i shoot events or something unplanned. I am scared to make the switch to Blackmagic and give up those features with IBIS and AF. But i have to upgrade for better picture quality and cant afford a Sony a7s3

[@topicruben]

@@Milan-cf1xe Hi, I got the 6k pro, not the 6k, there are some differences, cause with the 6k pro I have the internal NDs and I can also record in 4K…, still super happy. I don’t miss the AF at all, the IBIS could be an issue if you film handheld all the time, but if you rig the camera, it becomes heavier and thus more stable, otherwise you can use a gimbal or stabilizer. The image quality is very good 👍

[@Milan-cf1xe]

@@topicruben Ok sounds great. Did you have to buy more PC Storage? These Files are massive

[@MichaelDrowley]

Variable Nd’s are still a really good way to go if you can get stepper rings and leave them on your lenses.

[@StillPictureProduction]

I disagree about the internal ND. It’s like saying why buy a prime when you can buy a zoom lens? It makes no sense for any cam manufacturer to put in half stops mechanically. That stack would be 3 inches deep. Also as much as you mention VND, They have their issues that are way worse than opening up the aperture or bumping ISO or slightly change shutter angle. I personally wouldn’t put a VND in front of any lens, considering I have bought the cheapest to a quite expensive one. The ones I own are expensive coasters and have been for years (moved over to buying Breakthrough Photography NDs which have NO color shift at all, let alone other artifacts in VNDs). One thing I can say is that I wish BMD would put an 8 stop ND on it because of wider T stop lenses in broad daylight.

[@tbip2001]

Is the noise added from raising the iso in the kind of realistic ranges we'd be talking about (ie you are already in a bright environment and having to use nd) , really going to introduce appreciable noise in a modern camera??

[@ryanlin5515]

exactly, and the most you would be raising is a stop. since the NDs are 2 stops increments. Don't really see this as an issue

[@tonyw6451]

@@ryanlin5515 Especially with 3200 native iso and all the great low light lenses that pair with this camera.

[@willcrowther9968]

First off I really enjoy your videos. But if an increase in 2 stops of ND is too dark, just turn up your ISO a bit...am I missing something here?

[@StMarc77]

Just turn down the ND filtration and close your lens a little. 🤔

[@CodyPyper]

The problem is when you change iso in the pocket cams, you’re still recording at the native iso. So you could potentially introduce noise. But it’s a weird point to make, because I’m assuming the NDs real value are in run and gun or when you have to do super quick setups. If so, compromising not shooting at native isos, or stopping down your lens 1 stop further than you’d like is a fair trade off. If you are doing a setup, cinema, interview, etc. you can adjust lighting or put your own .3, .6, etc. on the front of your lens and call it a day. Seems weird to complain about something that is only there to help, not solve problems in every shooting environment...

[@Questionthis1]

I guess what it comes down to is the value comes in when you’re shooting with a matte box and you only need a one stop ND filter instead of a whole case of them because the in body ND changes in factors of 2 so with just a one stop ND on the matte box you can fine tune it without needing a whole set of filters. Up to you if that’s worth an extra $500. If you own a matte box and 4x5 ND (and if your lenses don’t take Variable ND’s) it might be but if you already own a set of ND filters it’s redundant.

[@deanolium]

Exactly. And if you have a set of 1/3, 2/3 and 1 stop NDs, then you have a huge range of NDs. Heck, you only really need a 1/3 and 2/3 if you have a matte box where you can put two filters in.

[@marshpw]

With the ND thing, you don't have to shoot wide open, you can adjust your aperture between the nd stop. So you go from 1.5 to 2 or 2.8. still wide open, didn't have to mess with ISO

[@asmr_reviews]

Hello 👋 what variable ND filter do you recommend

[@alejandrojaen2305]

The only thing i would say about this video is b-roll of what you explained would be nice. You mentioned the screen pulling out but I wanted to see it to better understand how much the screen can move.

[@raredreamfootage]

The 1500 NIT 5inc tilt screen is the killer feature for handheld and gimbal work though.

[@BorysFilms]

I'm still thinking about the 4K instead. I know, speedboosters can be a pain in the ass, but I've never been a Canon shooter, so I don't have a bunch of EF lenses lying around and the ability to adapt anything, even PL, makes it a more reasonable choice. And 6K takes a lot of storage, while 4K is more friendly in this case. What do you think?

[@blainecovert8374]

I love my metabones ef & fd adapters. Very sharp & I get the extra f stop. I do happen to have a bunch of those lenses to do stills work.

[@kieranarmstrongproductions4743]

I own both the 4K and 6k pro and you win either way to be honest. But those built in NDs will change your life, and contrary to the internet’s consensus, the 6k pro’s color science IS better than any previous blackmagic model, especially in the skin tones.

[@markmopa713]

My BMPCC 6K pro DOES NOT work with my DJI ronin RS2 anymore ... Before the firmware update 7.3 I could control focus on my RS2 and start recording and now I cannot do anything because there’s seem to be a problem with connectivity after new firmware.

[@spensersakurai]

My test camera did have the blue tint issue on the screen but it did not effect my footage or shooting experience. Hopefully this gets fixed in an update though.

[@matt113pagoda3]

Fixed today!

[@tomcypher3864]

Why even consider touching ISO when shooting raw? (besides switching to second "native")

[@auxsom]

A rare video from an experienced shooter who is keeping it real about a great camera, even if it has flaws. Madd respect. Just subscribed. Highly appreciate your honest opinion, including the specific examples regarding pros/cons of this camera.

[@zackdoes3022]

What camera would you suggest for podcasting. I’m wanting a nice camera. Looking at similar prices to these cameras

[@Artfulscience1]

What variable ND do you use? All that IR pollution from black magic for me cautious so I use Tokina pro IRND’s and they rock.

[@brandonlavoie4364]

Wouldn't you just use lights to fill the shadows when you're exposing for the highlights lol?

[@NoahsNostalgia]

I got the 6k pro a few weeks ago and just took it on a short road trip, having the flip screen and internal nd was a huge time saver. i definitely prefer to rig up cameras though so i agree that it doesn't make a ton of sense if you're going to do that. i have the 4k as well so ill probably just upgrade that to another 6k pro and have 1 rigged and 1 normal just like you said. great video!

[@derik_niez]

How do you like this compared to the S5?

[@JustRupes]

So here is the thing. I'm a super small creator not making any money from anything film or camera related. Everything I buy I have to fund from my own pocket, and whilst I am super lucky in the fact that I am able to do this, there is no way I can shell out for an amazing "A" camera. Over the years I have used lots of different DSLR options, most of which were suggested by other content creators, each one being crippled by overheating, time limits on recording or something else. Then a friend suggested I check out Blackmagic and their line up. So after a lot of going back and forth and looking at used Ursa's and Mini's I decided to go for a brand new Pocket 6k Pro. It's totally changed my life and given me a new lease of creative freedom and impetus to get on and actually create. Are there trade offs, of course there are, what do you expect when it's main competition is selling at twice or three times the cost? Would I buy it again? In a heartbeat. I am sure this camera is not aimed at taking over from "A" camera's on big professional shoots, but it is bringing proper cinema camera features and image quality into the hands of creators starting out on their journey. What Blackmagic have done is really smart, putting an affordable camera in to the hands of people stepping up from DSLR or just getting in to cinematography. That way they get use to how Blackmagic work and things like the menu's, stepping up to an URSA mini or studio cam becomes a doddle. Not to mention that by using the EF mount it means people can bring their glass from previous camera's. Would I buy a 6k Pro if I had £20k to spend on an "A" cam, of course not, but a first time Indie filmmaker with hardly any budget would. I am quite frankly stunned that you think the internal ND's are such an issue, you realise there is nothing stopping you sticking a VND on the lens right?

[@Dbj5555555]

Sony’s electronic ND is very nice. Zcam with a stop and a half to start when you install it into the device not so nice. Too long to switch the device with a client standing over you and a bunch of others waiting for you. Color shifts and unwanted polarizing effects with a veritable Nd bad. Good quality irnd very good but slow to swap in a Matt box. This is the best you can get without spending the money using a Sony FX6 or 9. I would watch blowing out your highlights and fix the minor differences with braw using the internal ND’s. Braw is amazing to me. Still use my Matt box for shading and some of my preferred filters such as gradients, hot mirror etc. I bought one for interviews to go with my 6k. Your clients don’t care what brands they use. The only care about the final product and what they imagined it would be. I bought it.

[@FTGTapGod]

Z Cam is using the same exact eND as Sony actually. The benefit of the implementation on the Sony cameras though is that the larger body allows them to physically move the eND out of the way of the optical path. So it's a trade-off in size.

[@Dbj5555555]

@@FTGTapGod that’s the advantage. Not having to pull it when not needed physically from the body.

[@NatesFilmTutorials]

I see your point on the stages of ND. While I would take it over a camera without built in ND any day. You do have to compensate in some regard typically stopping down in super bright scenarios. The logical evolution is electronic ND found in the FX6/9 a minimum of 1 stop and seemless adjustments to 1/128. Sure you could use a matte box, and have all the filters you could ever want. But in real world use, I have not had the luxury of extra crew or the time to make such changes. The ability to dial in perfect exposure on the camera is invaluable

[@matthewphillips5483]

Are the ND filters on the p6k pro IRND? If not, what the h3ll was the point?

[@spensersakurai]

They are but they arent perfect.

[@joelmulder]

Here’s the thing though, variable ND filters always make the image look worse then if you were using fixed ND filters, regardless of whether or not they’re internal or external. Static NDs aren’t very convenient but degrade the image as little as possible, variable NDs are convenient but they degrade the image slightly but noticeably when you know what to look for. Internal NDs have the convenience of a VND with all the upsides of a static ND. A little addition: increasing the ISO on the BMPCC from say 400 to 600 doesn’t actually add that much noise.

[@deanolium]

With bumping the ISO up, if you're stretching the shadows in post, then 600 will add noise there, since it shifts the dynamic range up towards the highlights. So great if you want more detail in the highlights, but rubbish if you care about whats in the shadows. One key thing is that in the first ISO bracket, the point where the highlights clip is the same no matter what the ISO is.

[@ashley.caldwelldp]

Get a set of Xume Magnetic filter holders, grab a good quality 0.3 ND and then you can have 1, 2, 3, 5, 6 & 7 stops :)

[@jesseekholm9994]

I tried the 6KPro and that camera had the bluetint issue and also an "over exposed" issue on the flip out monitor. The image on my SmallHD 502 looked great while the flipout screen looked clipped and blue. Pretty much only usable for framing and touch screen functionality, atleast on that particular model. Maybe the image in the EVF would have been nice, but we didnt have one. That's the reason I probably wont by one

[@loudandclearmedia]

Doesn't the Pro "fix" the IR pollution issue with their ND array? I think even the clear one acts as an IR high pass filter of sorts. That could be a compelling reason to choose the Pro.

[@Supercon57]

I personally have a set of 77mm ND filters I keep them with me even when using a camera with built in ND Sometimes the shot calls for a 1 stop and the built in ND just can't do it It happens, you don't want to open up one stop or else it's too shallow for an interview and you risk them leaning in and out of focus You don't want to stop down one stop or else the background becomes a little too distracting You just need that one stop ND

[@guguemichaels]

But sir, not to disagree with you however, this camera is not a run and gun camera. Why do people continue to make this mistake?? Even Blackmagic tells everyone when they are introducing these cameras. It's made for filmmaking. For controlled environment. Not run and gun.. yet people ignore that and treat it like is that type of cameras It is not! Then complain. Makes no sense to me. In the samples you showed, once outside is exposed currently, you then use light inside to brighten up your talent. It's a cinema camera sir. With that, treat it as such. 👍🏽

[@jamescook5931]

Nice video. Do you shoot in pro res with this camera? Can you do a video about how to rig up the 6k pocket?

[@Dbj5555555]

I put it into my rig because I can tilt the screen and push buttons with my v mount on. I hate struggling to see the screen with my v mount in the way. 6 k as my b cam because those situations my lighting is controlled anyway.

[@burgunbeerd]

That's why I love the Sony FX6 EVND so much. Absolute control

[@elbedouirayen7938]

Please can it shoot 12bit internally?

[@camerafx24]

I just picked up the 6K bro, I’m in love with this camera in the image is beautiful! It’s an eight camera if you want to be in a camera it’s a big camera if you wanted to be a big camera. I can’t afford an Alexa so this is my second choice I actually think it looks better than Red Camera.

[@germanevision]

Do we get focus hunting problems in bmpcc 6k as it happens in bmpcc 4k? And what about focus racking using focus-by-wire lenses -- is that possible in bmpcc 6k?

[@GabrielScindian]

Thanks for the vid!!! I'm still using the Pocket 4k with the Gen5 lut... its all you need

[@playrecdigitalfilmes9396]

Didn't you feel loss of quality using adapter for the fd lenses? did he do infinite focus?

[@LukeWit]

With me being on a budget and need a first cinema camera, this is the perfect cinema camera for me!

[@drrrw]

I'm someone who is considering the P6K or the Pro, but am filled with FD glass, how did you manage to adapt fd glass if the flange distance is lesser in EF than in FD? thanks man. Nice vid.

[@8lec_R]

Ok. Before I say anything, great video. I haven't seen any1 else raise this issue so I'm gonna try to help. The black magic cameras, new ones atleast have only 2 different ISOs. One for low gain and the other for high gain. Let's take the bmpcc4k as an eg The base iso for the low gain is 400 and the high ISO is (ok, I've forgotten what it is, but lets just go with 1600 for this example) 1600. Now between ISO 100 and 1250, you aren't changing the sensitivity of the sensor, if something is clipping at iso 1250, it will still be clipping at ISO 100. You'll have to adjust the shutter angle, iris or nd to bring that down. The BlackMagic cameras, when changing the ISO will simply shift where the middle gray point is, and redistribute how much information (shifts the dynamic range allocation) is captured in the shadows and highlights. This is different from many other cameras that will take the signal from the sensor and boost it or artificially lower it using the Analog to digital converters. This usually results in better signal to noise ratio at higher ISOs (cuz of in camera NR) but often results in colour shifts and loss of DR and sometimes detail. Filmmaker IQ did a great video on this. It's called something like dual native iso on bmpcc4k or something

[@jkhollywood]

you can get a matte box with filter holders

[@dna8269]

yup nailed my exact use for it as well. Rigged regular 6k + 6k pro as the B cam / handheld or gimbal cam

[@katlis]

Remember at the end of the day a variable ND filter is just 2 circular polarizers. So the polarization changes when you adjust the "darkness," which greatly effects reflections, etc. Doesn't matter if it's a $20 VND or $200 VND. Of course, that wouldn't matter much for "run and gun" applications, but just something to keep in mind. :)

[@bmefilms6879]

its becoming harder to watch him. im trying my best but this is getting silly.

[@katlis]

@@bmefilms6879 I have no doubt Spencer has rented & tested a lot of gear for his work. His commercial projects speaks for itself.

[@renaissancedigital5730]

Yes the P6Kpro will be noisy when underexposing a stop at 800 iso in higher dynamic range situations. 400 iso is a better "native with this camera" imo.

[@MaxMRasmussen]

With BRAW you can set the ISO in post for best result. So how it is set during the shoot should not matter that much.

[@birkgroven9160]

As long as its a 12 bit raw signal how you expose your shot relative to iso matters as you don't have infinite dynamic range (about 11.8 stops at snr2 on pocket 6k i think) - so iso matters. Had it been a 32bit float signal, then not so much. Contrast ratios in lighing, ie the exposure outside vs inside on a face, however will always matter. The only effect a 32 bit float signal vs 12 bit linnear would have would be that you'd remain highlight detail outside, and noiseless shadow detail inside on the 32 bit signal where you'd clip on the 12 bit signal. It would still be more effective to light the shot than to try to "fix" it with a grade.

[@andywakeman9806]

Yup! I have an Ursa Mini Pro G2 as A-cam. Pocket 6k Pro will mostly be on the gimbal, always rigged and ready!

[@anthonyjinson4839]

Hey Spenser, love your videos! Do you mind sharing what monitor arm that you are using in this video? Noga? Or do you have any recommendations?

[@robertm3951]

10 stops of ND was another reason I prefer the C70. I only wish that I still did not need a mist filter.

[@AlexanderCornel]

How about the Fx6?

[@survivinginthedolomites8530]

great video xDDD But I have still some questions as it's pretty hard to choose between the 6k and 6k pro haha. I've never had a video camera, so I'm somehow afraid that it will be too heavy with the Pocket 6k Pro (1.2 kg DJI Rs 2 stabilizer, 800g Sigma 18-35 mm, 1.2 kg Pocket 6k Pro, and another battery or SSD.) Do you think that could be the case? Especially when you e.g. film the whole day or when you travel and still have a drone. I also wonder if the 6k Pro's "tilting screen" is really necessary? (I filmed with the Gopro and the cell phone on a stabilizer and never really had any problems, even when I walked very close to the floor. Maybe it's different with the camera, as many 6k users said it is necessary). Buying one later would make less sense, as it costs more and is perhaps even more uncomfortable if you use the stabilizer and fix a "DJI 3D focus system" / microphone on the "head" of the camera. I've already looked a bit on the internet and apparently the 6k Pro fits on the RS 2, but it's not yet entirely clear to me whether that's really true. I have one last question then I say more than thank you; Do you actually need nd filters a lot in filmmaking? thxx

[@DanCThorpe]

Hmmm you've got RAW dude and internal ND's you shouldn't ever be having exposure issues.

[@davidlovephotog2]

I have two 6ks, one rigged and one bare for gimble. I have it set up on a magic arm for close ups when shooting photoshoot bts.

[@louie8488]

ragging on the nd's.. doesn't even consider adding light to the subject? Even with a variable ND in that shot you're still going to want to add light to the pot, or get a camera with a higher dynamic range. Think you're stuck in the wrong headspace there

[@lucki4mac]

This camera is great for a beginners to Intermediate Independent Filmmakers, because you can practice manually pulling focus when shooting with this digital 6K cinema camera, which has a similar process as shooting on 16mm/35mm cameras, to also include capturing great looking footage, in a controlled environment. Also if you're on really tight budget, then the price will definitely not put you in the poor house.👍

[@leebrandt33]

Why not use denoise in post? It's simple

[@jakobhampel1318]

just fit the T stop to the right point ? between t2 - t5.6 everything look good ?

[@surf2summitadventure646]

Having a matte box on a small gimbal isn’t really the most ideal situation. If you’re going to have one camera, this would be a much better option than the non pro. A slight change of the shutter or aperture will fill in the ND gaps.

[@antone9751]

Why not adjust your aperture by a stop if you need in between stops. It really doesn't make all that much difference DOF wise and not everything needs to be shot wide open contrary to popular belief. Professional video cameras have used ND filter wheels for the last 20+ years that are not infinitely variable like a Vari ND.

[@pgtips4240]

Your complaints imo do not hold any weight. All your 'issues' are not really issues that do not have a solution. If you think there is a better option for money than the bm 6k pro then go buy it, but I doubt you will find it! There is nothing wrong with the 2 stop nd increments and then making a small iso adjustment, also you have the option of lighting your scene properly to compensate. The bm 6k pro is a pro camera, it's not a run and gun amateur camcorder that does everything automatically. Also, if you do get a little bit of iso noise, divinci resolve that comes with the camera has one of the best denoisers I have ever used. It restores the footage to noiseless without degrading it.

[@AveryDalessandro]

You didn't really show any footage?

[@Ansonandco]

Dude makeup and vanity set it my go to as well. Love them!

[@FilmSpook]

*My man, Anson!* 😅👍🏾

[@Ansonandco]

@@FilmSpook what’s up Carlos!!!

[@FilmSpook]

@@Ansonandco Oh, nothing, I'm just sitting in a dark corner, crying my eyes out, because mean Spenser ruined my hopes of getting a 6K Pro. Waaaah! Just kidding, of course. 😅 Both you guys are Awesome.

[@Ansonandco]

@@FilmSpook I mean in fairness I prepped for this heartache weeks ago lol I tried to warn you 😂

[@FilmSpook]

@@Ansonandco 🤣😭

[@RUBANCAM]

i like it just for the looks with the EVF.

[@Vortex124875]

dont think you understood the usage of ND filter.. and indoors use ND filter gels from outside attached on window. And use a f-stop balanced light setup with fills and bounces. a pro with no light setup... hmm... thanks anyway..

[@EmrahDemirag]

watched more than 100 videos on youtube. Now I'm clear about 6k or 6k pro. I'll definitely go with 6k. Thank you so much for the video

[@ACDGibson]

Thanks for bringing up the ND issue, because for me it would be an issue since most of the time I don't use lights to make up the exposure difference. You made me realize that I would have to use VND on the lens anyway. Thanks :)

[@anonymissed3611]

Dual Mic ins add to "A cam" positioning for many.

[@PastaRoshie]

So what is the point of this video? I’m so lost is the ND the problem? To me sounds like user error

[@dvm_101]

That's why you have Dual Gain ISO... ND4 and for example ISO 400 is still to bright? Switch to ND6. Now it's too dark? Then go from ISO 400 to somewhere in the second gain for example ISO 1250-3200 and bumm. Perfect quality, no noise, problem solved.

[@davinjacobs]

I think the fact that these are built in IR ND's is highly overlooked. Great vid.

[@ScarmackProductions]

Your rig also probably cost your close to $6,000 and you're comparing it to a out of the box $2,500 camera, which even the more expensive C70 has the same issues you're referring to for almost double the price............I'm sorry, but you're just nitpicking now.

[@TheOfficialSiNN]

Isn’t your A camera a black magic?

[@blertonsaraci]

Great video. I tottaly agree with your logic.

[@FilmSpook]

😊 Thanks, Spenser! I LOVE your rich content; you're Awesome! Blessings

[@terryhatziieremias]

What are you talking about bro. If you don't like ND just don't use them

[@closedboxmedia]

I crank my shutter so high when shooting n people watching my videos dont care about motion blur

[@KonstantinBeck]

first!!! I got mine and it has a blue tint as well.....its kinda annoying but you'll learn to live with it. And I hope there will be an update that fixes that issue. Love your content BTW.

[@Josev-TV]

I was wondering about it. It’s better than the cayenne that the BMPCC4K gives.

[@Dbj5555555]

Returned and got one that was ok.

[@IanSnape]

I brought the polarpro basecamp matte box.... oh god it’s awesome!

[@dimitrimoonlight]

Well about internal ND, that's why you shoot with Raw.

[@ivandj707]

Thank you.

[@adanrodriguez6230]

So are you gonna buy the blackmagic pocket 6k pro?

[@impatrickt]

did u read the title

[@inSurfersParadise]

Put it on a tripod and plug it in = A Cam. Take off tripod = B Cam. Put 1 stop ND on lens = shoot.

[@Aaron_Smith_OM]

I don't think the Pocket 6K Pro is worth it if you're already in possession of the first Pocket 6K. Internal NDs, flip screen, and new battery is nice but it's not a HUGE leap forward. And honestly, I'd rather have a lightweight matte box (Polar Pro or Bright Tangerine) with NDs or filters. That lens protection is much appreciated.

[@yucheng8888]

Nearly perfect run & gun b-roll cam and B-cam to my Ursa Mini!

[@Bramslootmans]

Just slide de F down a little bit sometimes