LUMIX S5iiX VS GH7? Best Camera To Buy?

[@chrisfigley]

Get both and now you have a team of cameras that truly compliment each other...kinda like a good marriage, you fill in each other's gaps!

[@director-0502]

S5 Mark ii+GH7=s1h mark ii

[@adzhikerimov]

S5iix don't have phase detect autofocus on 50p 1080. And he is cropping a lot when you shoot 4k 50p. For weddings gh7 is much better for me.

[@jettvision933]

Love my s5ii will not upgrade for at least another 3 to 4 years photos are beautiful I never shoot pro res or 120fps so 4k60 is perfect I still have my g9 and thats still a great Mirco 4/3 camera. LUMIX GANG ❤

[@GGGeraldson]

Gh7 looks a lot better. Better IBIs, Autofocus, rolling shutter, codecs, and I like the image quality better, too.

[@metehangezer98]

Low light performance and dynamic range is better than GH7

[@lesnayalesichka]

there are a lot of fine AI NR's now so the low light isn't a dealbreaker now

[@metehangezer98]

@@lesnayalesichka I saw for pics,there is also works for video too?

[@lesnayalesichka]

@@metehangezer98 for sure, Topaz Video AI is amazing. Speedbooster is a wonderful thing too

[@ElPhoquosRosso]

@@metehangezer98 Actually, if you want to go low-light, you'll need a fast lens (at least f2 or T2) and there is no more problem, even at low ISO.

[@gaarax0x]

Lols. People are so into specs but most only shoot closeup shots of leaves, billboards signs and random people walking. A bit of Grain and some LUT. Wow cinematic fantastic 🤣

[@castielvargastv7931]

I orderd a gh7 today so to me the question is answerd

[@ШотаГоголи]

I’m going to buy a S 5-2X, I intend to use it for photos and videos, I have an AC-90 camera and decided to upgrade it, but I don’t have any experience in photography with Lumix, because I work on a Nikon D 7100, can you do a comparison of Lumix S 5-2X with Nikon Z6-3?

[@Democratiser]

Matthew - Thanks for all your excellent commentary and reviews LUMIX gear! At some point would you be able to put together a video with images side-by-side showing where you think that full frame images really excel over MFT? That would be most appreciated! Also, are you able to show how the limitations of MFT might be overcome (eg using a F1.2 / F1.4 lens of light or DOF are the issues) or how software (Davinci Resolve or noise reduction software etc) could be used to the same end? This latter analysis would highlight the unresolvable gap!

[@castielvargastv7931]

I shoot everything in 2.8 which is 5.6 on full frame bokee wise so shallow depth of field is not of my concern in any way. I cant stand too much bokee and if i reallY need it i just use a longer lense like film makers always did. Most movies have been made with super 35/ apsc and still are. The full frame madness is just a recent thing and it mostly is important to youtubers who never do real film work at all

[@castielvargastv7931]

@user-tj8ox8iy8m still no one answerd if autofocus on the gh7 works with speedbooster. There are no videos about it

[@castielvargastv7931]

@user-tj8ox8iy8m yeah! I just orderd a gh7

[@РоманКрасницький]

@@castielvargastv7931 I see tests with Sigma Mc11 + S5II + Canon EF Lenses - it works great also, I saw some tests with Metabones adapter + G9 Mark 2 + Sigma EF Lens - it works ok, but not great, cause it haunting. I think it depends of adapter, cause Sagma Mc11 is great brand-new product that matches a new Lumix PDAF ssytem

[@williamburkholder769]

I will replace my GH4 with a GH7, since my lenses are all m43. If I need more than ISO 4000, I'm lighting the scene, anyway. If I need MORE bokeh and LESS depth of field, I'm out of my genre, anyway. Much of my work involves photographing slides, transparencies, and film negatives (camera scanning), so the increased depth of field on the 30mm macro lens is welcome! The good news is, both formats are great. Lumix will continue to evolve their feature set. No doubt, the replacement for the S1H will be more like the GH7 than the S5IIX.

[@kayodeolaosebikan7462]

Over all, I would pick the GH7. Lack of 4k60 without crop, 4k120, ProRes RAW, 32bit audio, 1080p 240fps, Tally light, more useful buttons , Tilt-flip LCD are things that cannot be replicated on S5iiX but the advantages of S5iiX over the GH7ike low light & shallow DoF can be overcome by adapting full frame lenses via speed booster ,

[@Zitoz10]

Hello, I am a Gh6 user and I am always doubtful about low light. I have never tried a full-frame lens to increase light capture. I work in many theaters and I am always afraid. Do you think the full frame lens is really noticeable with the adapter?

[@castielvargastv7931]

Dof is no advantage to me mft gives all the bokee i need and low light on full frame is nice but i use lights for my work

[@Apuat]

THANK YOU!!! Almost no one is mentioning the speed booster route!

[@VíctorFernández-fdz]

A huge point here will be info about AF with Metabones SpeedBooster. There are a lot of people (like me) with an old GH5+Metabones speedbooster and Canon Glass who will be pleased to use it with th GH7

[@castielvargastv7931]

@@VíctorFernández-fdz i always thought af does not work with speedbooster

[@CalebHoover]

great look at the cams dude- that tilt screen on the gh7 is worth it haha

[@Kobrakameraid]

You forgot that m43 lens are way lighter than the full frame.

[@ElPhoquosRosso]

And cheaper for same or better result.

[@AoyagiAichou]

The "already has a crop" argument doesn't make any sense I think. The sensor has a crop factor, not an actual crop. Honestly the best is being in both system. Been doing that for a while (with pre-hybrid AF cameras) and it's absolute bliss. Good idea with the Discord server as well!

[@castielvargastv7931]

True gh7 has no crop. Its always the full sensor working

[@frankfeng2701]

If I have to pick one like most people, it's gonna be full frame, which is the more versatile system and the focal point of lens development these days.

[@castielvargastv7931]

@@frankfeng2701 its Not the most versatile. I can put a 14-140 lense in my Pocket and i can do everything. 14-140 would be a 28-280 in full frame.. try to put such a lense in you pocket🤣

[@pragmaticfilmmaking]

In all fairness, if the 28-45 F1.8 were a Lumix S lens, it would be twice the price.

[@krugerdesign]

Just purchased the s5IIx +2 Lumix primes, also added a Sigma 25mm Art and with the updates its a unbelievable combo. Also Active Track on the DJI RS3 Mini gimbal works with it and also the GH5II with updates.

[@danielerdos3046]

GH7 >>>>>> S5iix Unless you absolutely need to push the ISO and can't use extra light...that'd be the only reason for the S5IIX for me...bokeh is whatever, videographers should rarely shoot under f2.8/4 (which is f1.4/2 on MFT) so even if you buy like a 85/1.8 for FF, you'll use it at 4-5.6. If you buy a 42.5/1.7 for MFT you can use that at f2-2.8 easily for same DoF and you get extra light for your sensor

[@MatthewDangyou]

True! Not a ton of lenses at an F1.4 though and not any zooms at that. The closest you get is an f1.7 but for interviews I shoot a lot of the time in F2.2 which is pretty hard to achieve in MFT 🤷🏼‍♂

[@John_Bull_]

For food with good lighting, m43 is the perfect camera.

[@MrMolotov69]

Micro 43 is dying makes no sense to invest in it.

[@nulu08]

I have a speedbooster so low light won't be a problem for me.

[@ElPhoquosRosso]

How do you bring more light to the sensor by adding a speedbooster ? I mean, the sensor doesn't get bigger

[@bernzeppi]

I just got them both.😊

[@nickaglyc]

What loss of features? S5IIX has Prores and Prores raw externally. So basically you are not losing anything.

[@MatthewDangyou]

minus $500+ from your bank account🤷🏼‍♂

[@nickaglyc]

@@MatthewDangyou most of the filmmakers will rig it up anyways so,,,

[@YuvakTuladhar]

I own a GH6 and love it for many things. I am sure the GH7 is even better, as it has phase detection autofocus and even better IBIS. But one thing I hate about it is the depth of field. With full-frame lenses, it is much easier to create a shallow depth of field even with wide lenses. If you can afford it, I think it will be great to have both 5iix and GH7.

[@lawrenceborreson5953]

I am invested in both lens systems. There are reasons for me to have both. I have both - once my GH7 gets delivered later today ;-)

[@davidmurray5926]

For me…. And I know other will disagree… but I’d prefer the GH7 because it has the tilt rear screen option, which is so much better for filmmaking than the damn side hinged selfie screen.

[@DroseMr]

When will the Gh7 start shipping🫣will the xlr 2 be shipped the same time or wait on one or other or both🤷.

[@fedzciulla]

The GH7 shoots raw, but how are you gonna use it? Da Vinci doesn’t like it, but likes braw very much. And it’s totally true that you can’t shoot on the S5 internally, but at least you can grade it. You are talking about the e-stabilization, and the crop on the S5, but you didn’t mention the crop on the GH7 with it. And it would be a total of what? 3x crop? How are you going to find a wide enough lens? Coming from a Gh5, I’m pretty sure I’d love the GH7, but I was searching for something more usable in low light condition (the Gh5 really suffer without good lights) and I’m very pleased with the S5 II X. And I can always buy the GH7 and sell the Gh5 (when I have money to invest again), which I will probably do 😀

[@MatthewDangyou]

Well I edit in Final Cut so pretty easy to edit and use RAW for me, for crops most MFT lenses are already Full Frame equivalent. So 12-35 is like a 24-70 so yes it has a crop which effects bokeh the focal length is like the same. The GH7 is solid in good light conditions but yeah S5iiX hands down will perform better in lower light coniditons

[@fedzciulla]

⁠@@MatthewDangyouYou use raw on Final Cut? 😳 Not very “color grading” oriented, but it’s everyone choice. For the crop, I meant: does the E-Stablizier on High setting crop as much as on the S5? If it crops 1.5, so the S5 is like a Super35, what would be the crop factor on the GH7? It starts at 2.0 crop, if it goes over this, a 7mm would be a 21mm equivalent. Pretty dramatic.

[@MatthewDangyou]

@@fedzciulla Sure if you look at a 12mm lens then it is already on 24mm already, but idk I have done many many professional shoots on FCP and color graded them in the platform. You can get really really good colors, but it really just doesn't have the fine tune detailing that Davinci has with mask, tracking, stacking nodes, outside layers and different tools like that.

[@wuliwong]

I have a mft camera and a super35. Im pretty interested in the full frame s5iix. Im a little confused about the different crops for the s5iix depending on frame rate, etc. A 2 times crop of full frame is the same as no crop mft. So is it actually a problem on the s5iix at all?

[@MatthewDangyou]

That is when you are shooting 4K 48 or 60fps which is a 1.5X crop (ASPC) and using the electronic stabilization on high which is like a 1.4X crop which ends up cropping in around (so 24mm turns into a 36mm which turns into roughly a 50mm with high e-stabilization)

[@lesnayalesichka]

Does they are the same dimensions? Can I use a GH5 cage with A GH7?

[@MatthewDangyou]

No you can’t. You can use a gh6 cage but it is a completely different body design from the GH5

[@igorsvabik1121]

Right now, I have GH5 and I was planning to buy GH7, but right now, there is summer sale on S5IIx, where I can buy S5IIx with 50mm 1.8, 85mm 1.8 and 20-60mm lenses for the preorder price of GH7... So Full Frame it is for me. Sucks, that there is no CFexpress type B on S5II bodies. V90 SD cards are so overpriced compared to CFexpress.

[@drixtopher]

Bro I’m in the exact same boat. What summer sale you talking about though?

[@igorsvabik1121]

@@drixtopher It ended 3 weeks ago in Europe. I was basicaly Europe-wide sale for Lumix cameras. The shop just had killer deal.

[@harryvlogs7833]

Really because i can by a new s5iix with 20-60 for £1600 1900 ish dollars

[@Snkppwh]

I watched a comparative video of a KZbinr with a beard The detail of the bearded image of the plframe and microfossil was much better in the full frame There are more full frames of information

[@highdesertdragons6674]

Can we shoot 120 4k open gate on the gh7?

[@MatthewDangyou]

You can only shoot true open gate in 24 and 30 fps

[@kennethgooswit3697]

I have learned that the S5iix will get prores raw later this year, but iam pleased with internal BRAW to edit easier in Resolve. Panasonic should make an insertable OLPF just like BM. Moire is very bad on the S5iix thank you

[@bedenegative6450]

Who said s5iix would get prores raw?

[@artistjoh]

For me the GH7 is first choice all day long.

[@kennethgooswit3697]

What about moire on the gh7. They forgot an OLPF on both cameras

[@martysender5539]

Gh6 hands down

[@filipmichalsaffray441]

Hey Matthew Question GH6 800$ used...to make my MFT lenses alive once more because lately I am shooting just with S5s S5iiX...AF is not Such an issue or should I wait for the GH7... Is the GH7 IQ better vs GH6? S5IIx is still best? Thx for Our answer Fil

[@MatthewDangyou]

I would actually say the GH6 is better image quality, but the S5iiX I think is better than the GH7

[@slows728]

@@MatthewDangyou I agree, and the GH6 has really better colors. I must work hard in post to make the image of my G9II as good as my GH6.

[@castielvargastv7931]

​@@slows728i guess this is a question of taste gh7/g9 colors are more true to nature which i want

[@slows728]

@@castielvargastv7931 If you prefer the colors of the G9II and GH7, I think you will love these cameras.

[@BoomingVisuals]

Panasonic is still trying witht he mft. Smh

[@CarloFerraro]

Sony!