Luna "Fixed" Cleanest Ebike Ever : Review

[@jpmtgsvc]

Just purchased Enduro x1 and now I have been riding it and felt in love with it. I just placed an order for this bike for my daughter and can't wait to ride with her.

[@gjb6177]

I've used Gates belt drives on tandems. Incredibly, they do NOT stretch. I bought a back up belt and have not had to change it yet. 12,000+ miles. Hose off the dirt and lube with dry silicone spray.

[@bluesti3]

G JB This is good to know! Almost all belts stretch in time... so it’s nice hearing from somebody who has used one on a bike for a while.

[@niceride]

Point of fact the belt does not stretch and the interior rubber-like teeth will swell slightly, so you will see the tension increase initially.

[@eazolan]

That's incredible.

[@user-ho6oo7jf1e]

This is exactly what I've been waiting for so I placed my order yesterday. Now comes the painful wait for delivery.

[@johnm7963]

It's worth the wait T. I've hit about 80 miles on mine so far and loving it.

[@LeesChannel]

Did you get it?

[@bwanaPele]

Did you get it?

[@budwhite9781]

Excellent review and this is one smooth looking electric bike. Torque sensing pedal assist is my absolute favorite experience on ebikes equipped with it. My IZIP Express was my first electric bike and is torque sensing pedal assist. Cheers😁👍

[@JohnSmith-sv5hy]

Always innovating Luna. Its your slowest bike in the fleet, but faster than any Sondors. Lol. Great look. Great quality. Lightest bike Luna makes!

[@ironboard6]

luna is a re-brand company, they dont make the bikes

[@briandhoward6137]

Great job Matt.. awesome work Luna.. stealth ebike for sure...

[@thewonderof06790]

Luna makes a great product. I have the Low Fat Wolf with the Ludicrous Drive. I love it! I'm not sure of the configuration of the internal hub gearing, but properly done with properly specified sprockets and belts this should be superior to chain drives. I've seen machinery that runs hundreds of horsepower through toothed belts and they last forever with little to no adjustments.

[@kingsinger2001]

Who makes the motor?

[@thanebenedict6622]

Nice, super-stealthy commuter! Also nice and light if you want to take on rail! Great review!

[@duncancampbell7357]

Can you provide some more info on the battery pack construction? Does it have cell level fusing? BMS?

[@CncObsession]

Luna does claim that on their other batteries IIRC.

[@limmoblack]

Excellent reviewer and review, I actually believed in what he was saying, without the pinch of salt that i usually add to reviews

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Totally agree, he did an excellent job!

[@rhysstatham7407]

Excellent review, here in the uk started to see similar bikes couple ideas one would be great if you could add a bottle style battery for extending range if needed also would like to remove battery which not sure you can on this bike other than that it’s a fantastic bike. In the uk there gtech showing there Bottle battery

[@Ericwkgnil]

Nice review! Now if Luna can add a interchangeable battery so I can keep riding!! Luna if you're watching add it to your next model! 😉😉👍

[@erikleypoldt8275]

Could you upgrade the central hub if you wanted? Nice looking bike! Any way to buy from Australia? If you are commuting and don't want to get sweaty on the way to work, do you always have to peddle or throttle assist can work alone?

[@nvention20]

this is pretty much the rig i dreamt of a couple decades ago . Is it the Tranz-x m25 midrive ?? super stealth whip at good price . Hopefully Court or Blue Monkey Bike Mike do a review ASAP

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Looks like an awesome bike, yeah, I’d like to check it out!

[@nvention20]

@@ElectricBikeReview ⚡💪🏾

[@stevensmith1911]

Great review. I just like to go a bit farther. Any room in the frame for a bigger battery, or can an external battery be hooked up when the juice gets low? What a cool bike.

[@ChaseElliottBand]

Two questions I want to know before purchasing...widest tire you can fit, and supported voltage range of the controller if later I want to DIY an external battery pack?

[@patryk2371]

I love the bike. Are you thinking about making a faster version? 52 volt, with an additional, external removable battery that looks like a water bottle, or a back pack battery connection for longer commutes? I would be really intrested in that.

[@Xcelor8]

I agree 👍

[@petebatfish1373]

could a bottle shaped charge pack be plugged into the charge port and do pass thru charging while the bike is running ?

[@ABC-wz2db]

Would love some basic dimensions of the frame...stand over height? Surprised the website doesn't give bike dimensions. Thanks

[@garryvanbruchem575]

Two questions: Once the batteries wear out and die, can you change them? Does Luna have a Canadian distributor?

[@LunaCyclesLLC]

yes they can be replaced easily and no we do not have canadian distributor we ship direct to any canadian customer and you save yourself the mark up.

[@kengruz669]

This looks like you chose a Bofeili mid-drive. Fuell chose that, too for their Fluid. How come no mention of the motor in the review, or the Luna website, as it is something different. How was it chosen? I'm very interested in hearing more about this motor. Great-looking bike, btw. Congrats.

[@videosforcatsanddogs214]

I am looking forward to the 2.0 version of this bike! Much more range (ideally 1000wh battery), higher power from motor and maybe even suspension while still looking like an elegant city bike.

[@wileyonek7876]

Doing some great things at Luna!

[@ivancajka732]

whats the q factor on that motor

[@videosforcatsanddogs214]

I am looking forward to the 2.0 version of this bike! Much more range (ideally 1000wh battery), higher power from motor and maybe even suspension while still looking like an elegant city bike.

[@steven-vj6lc]

This bike can dominate the whole ebike industry if it has a 1000wh or at least a 800wh battery

[@383uts]

A fater down tube design should accomodate a larger battery capacity. 500 watt for this light build is plenty, just bigger battery and better brakes like Magura MT5E

[@yamahaJDM]

Hello. What is top tube across height from standing ground on frame next to seat post ? (Size small)

[@jackcasica524]

If I do purchase, what can I expect when it comes time to replace the battery? Since it's built into the downtube, does that mean it can't be replaced?

[@bluesti3]

Jack Casica It is replaceable. Just have to pull the motor to slide it out. It’s not difficult just time consuming.

[@tims6246]

hello matt - is the motor easy to replace -novice - thanks TIM

[@websitemaker1717]

Great review, Matt. I own one of these in Large (58cm frame) myself and I think that, for what it is, its darn near perfect although I'll echo another commenter that I really miss a thumb throttle - as a heart attack survivor they are really important to give you the ability to back off the effort if it becomes necessary. I have to say I was surprised at your comments on the adequacy of the brakes. I weigh 250 lbs and am probably at the very outside of the size range for this bike. But I have no issue with the brakes' stopping power even at speed. I'm used to 4-pot Maguras and 203mm rotors front and back on my big bad ebikes so I was pleasantly surprised at what I considered to be the perfect performance I got from the Tektro hydros and 160mm rotors.

[@modulogeek]

Hi, I was wondering if you can tell me what kind of mid-drive motor comes with it. somehow it doesnt say on the product page. thanks!

[@andrewgunther2126]

Hi, any thoughts/reviews on how it’s held up over the last few years you’ve had it?

[@modulogeek]

Thanks for the review! I'm curious what the motor is - it doesn't say in the product page. Would you happen to know?

[@CPrasannaVenkatesan]

Likely Bafang-made. The display is from Bafang, so...

[@technicolortony3091]

THIS is what an ebike should be!!! I love this!

[@SwyvCrux]

Are these wheels tubeless friendly?

[@BenMyton]

Hey Luna, it looks like there are some bosses on the frame and fork, can you confirm how many and where? I'll need fenders and would like the ability to add a rack.

[@TheStoneWhisperer]

Ben Myton - I just got mine today. Yes, it has bosses for a water bottle holder & front fender, and for rear rack

[@383uts]

Can the battery be removed and replaced? I assume pull the motor out and it should slide down?

[@LunaCyclesLLC]

yes pull the motor out and the battery can be replaced

[@timaaaahhhh]

Is it safe to store this thing in a garage in the summer?

[@petebatfish1373]

Matt: Has the latest version of this bike been upgraded to 500w motor? or has the controller been upgraded to send 500w? Has the motor changed since this bike released?

[@christopherrogers4098]

Just ordered mine today!!

[@joseruben777]

There’s any way to have an extra battery on the go?

[@budwhite9781]

Do you have any plans on putting a bigger battery? Possibly a 12ah. The reason being, is I always ride at highest assist and never get more than 1 mile per amp hour on any of my electric bikes/scooters.

[@LunaCyclesLLC]

the bike can be modded to use a back pack battery etc... no plans right now to offer a bigger battery in the stock bike because it will ruin this clean look.

[@budwhite9781]

@@LunaCyclesLLC oh that would work out great...thanks for the info and for making this ebike👍

[@MrBryanthebold]

​@@LunaCyclesLLC I definitely agree you wouldn't want to ruin such a good looking bike but it might be nice as an add on for those occasional trips that go beyond the normal range :)

[@kengruz669]

@@MrBryanthebold I like the idea of a stealth bottle battery via bosses, or hanging from rear seat option to extend range- both where a bike might have something anyway- and plugging into charging port? Bike does seem to need a wider range/more gears internal hub and slightly higher juice battery.

[@giantkn10]

@@LunaCyclesLLC would the back pack battery be used as an additional battery when needed, or would it have to replace the internal battery? It sounds like everyone wants an option of additional battery when needed.

[@uruguaydestroy7492]

Does Luna sell a replacement battery?

[@UDX-340]

Holy moly , this is a game changer .

[@bearlemley]

I have experience motorcycle belt drives owning 4 of them. Three of them had well over 110ft lbs of torque. Each bike probably have an average of 25000 miles. The belts on my Buel”s do not stretch. There is no tension adjustment because of this. If they ever become less than banjo tight, you are either loosing a bearing or the belt has already failed. All those miles the belts were a dream. Zero impact. No wear, not maintenance. Just check once in while to see if it is scary tight. I did change one belt when on gravel roads a rock happened between the rear sprocket and the belt. The inboard side of the belt failed and the rest got me 100 miles home. My point to the reviewer is his claim that the belt will stretch. Are you sure? Belts these days are near bullet (or rock) proof for motorcycles with much great stresses per measured width. The Gates Manual states that they don’t stretch. It will tensioned to about 40lbs. Most likely you will replace the belt after it wears down your metal sprockets.

[@tonystone3397]

Do you deliver to Ireland?

[@richtarquini498]

Nice review. I'm in the market for a commuter, with pedal assist, and love the 'fixed' look. My commute is about 20 miles, which would be at the edge of the range. Perhaps not on assist '2' though. Is that true? As others have mentioned, a bottle cage battery extender or bag battery extension would be a great option for longer rides. How easy, or any tools needed, to change flats, (looks more involved with the gear selector on rear).

[@yamahaJDM]

need higher mah battery n better miles range,, ceramic bearings

[@JC-ko2yh]

what's the fixed situation with water and rain? are any of the parts susceptible to rain damage?

[@LunaCyclesLLC]

the battery is completely enclosed and water proof.

[@ImAlive11550]

Do you guys/girls ever plan on releasing a throttle like Kranked has? I love how you simple it is but don't need a $4k motor. A twist throttle w/ a cyclone would be the bumble bees rumble

[@LunaCyclesLLC]

we love twist throttles but they tend to be too dangerous for most people because of whisky throttle thing..... we are working on developing our own throttle.

[@ImAlive11550]

Luna Cycles please allow an option for those like me who can handle & want whisky throttle ... I'll be honest, I don't know exactly what that is but I like whisky so it can't be bad.

[@Lurkerhlb3]

So what size is this ebike?

[@predpalina]

T.O.L., provision for optional external battery will be sweet upgrade to this beautiful ebike.

[@danhoang6335]

Way better stealthy looking e-bike than those on the market right now. Thus, a quiet belt drive, minimum maintenance, good range - what else not to like. Oh, can battery be charged off the bike?

[@LunaCyclesLLC]

no batttery is not quick to take off (motor must come off to get to the battery)

[@HangTimeSolutions]

Nice review Luna Cycles can you address the question of adding or option for a throttle. I would also like better with a throttle if controller has options for it. Also options for integrated lights and or brake lights if controller allows. A rack for a commuter is also a great feature. So hopefully you also already have the mounting points on the bike. Thanks

[@frankiehoosier6998]

Go buy a fuckin’ motorcycle then........

[@budd1814]

@@frankiehoosier6998 Was a good review about a Luna E-bike,,,, Then YOUR immature turd of a comment.

[@edsonkidwell9813]

Love the bike how about a backpack battery to extend range and front and rear panniers /raxks

[@rdkuless]

How do you replace the Lithium GA cells when the cycles run out and die..?

[@dougone611]

I would like to know as well.

[@rdkuless]

@@dougone611 They won't answer.. it looks like these lithium ion batteries will just fill up landfills. The same with electric cars that have a trunk full of lithium batteries. Did you see that bionx was sued by GE... They have a proprietary system (battery/controller/motor) that only use Bionx parts or they shut down.. And now that Bionx is bankrupt because of this lawsuit, you cannot buy a replacement battery. So use caution around proprietary ebike systems. That is why i choose to use good downtube batteries and a Bafang that you can get replacement parts for. If you buy a Bauch, or Yamaha, or Shimano Steps. You can only use their propretary batteries. No others will work. I won't buy these systems because there are no guarantees.

[@petertothRC-FPV]

🏁Very nice ebike and that display is way nicer than my SW900

[@imonutiy]

Calling non fixed bike "fixed" is just misleading for people who are searching for fixed gear bike. Marketing guys did good and bad job at the same time.

[@johnmdill]

Yep. Fixey rider here. Calling it “fixed” is misleading.

[@funtimeworker2501]

Great job. An ebike with horizontal dropout with disc brake can be hard to come by. Imagine installing the Rohloff 14 speed igh.

[@383uts]

On electrics, a Rohloff be ideal over the Shimano. At least you can drain the oil and fill it. Shimano require a greasing after x amount of kms. Rolhoff is super strong straight cut gears

[@nickknox.]

Thumbs up but the first impression of the bike being "quiet" made me chuckle.

[@bluesti3]

We're so used to higher powered bikes... when you get on a silent eBike its a little strange!

[@johnm7963]

I've hit about 80 miles on mine so far... definitely quiet! There's only a very slight electric motor whine in L3

[@RetelTulio]

$500 for a one-year warranty. That's not much confidence in their product. But I get it. The quality control is in the hands of the Chinese manufacturer. They assemble the bike, put it in a box and I will be the one opening it. Fortune cookie. And Luna will have nothing to do with my bike. I'll be on my own.

[@TheStoneWhisperer]

Yup, that's how they sell it cheap! I got mine today and there is a SERIOUS design issue with the tires! I blew both inner tubes out (front & rear) just inflating them to 60 psi! Talk about scare the shit out of me, along with making me deaf for a few hours! I then took it to a Bike shop and they proceeded to explode two themselves while inflating to 70 psi! We ended up ripping out the "red plastic rim liner" that lines the inside of the rim and installing fabric liner. We did discover that the rims were NOT designed for the newer racing stems installed, but for the old-fashioned schrader stems (which have a larger hole at the valve stem), so the inner tube would bulge out at the valve stem hole and then tear the inner tube. This is a REALLY scary thought in my mind and these are the kind of things you must be able to be comfortable with in order to buy and own a Luna. I suspect this will get old for me real quick and I'll probably dump it for a Specialized Ebike next Spring.

[@Frank71]

When you want a fast ebike, you go to Luna. When you want a slow ebike, there is everyone else.

[@badimpulses17]

There are faster ebikes than Luna.

[@edsinofsky]

i like it. good job.

[@ajmann07]

SMEXY LÖÖKING Bike !!! Eric you guys/girls rock Have you tried mounting batteries in both the down tube and seat post ? I want one of these bad but the WIFE would kill me

[@LunaCyclesLLC]

happy wife happy life :)

[@ajmann07]

She should be happy just bought a beach house Pensacola beach FL Now I need that for a Cruiser Bike

[@jrnamida5470]

Ribble's Aluminium eBike is 28 pounds, that is a low weight eBike - 40 pounds is heavy for an eBike, to carry up and down stairs... 7Ah battery

[@phildinh852]

Why stealth? For commuters visibility is much more important. Are there going to be more color choices?

[@outcast566]

They call it stealth because it does not look like an ebike.

[@FunkyChild718]

I wish they made this but with 20 inch wheels and a throttle.

[@allenschmitz9644]

Dont worry about all the comments, non of them have the 1800$ for it..really it is a nice bike for a city commuter and because it so light I guess the tire size is perfact.

[@ThomasMehiar]

Thanks!

[@yamahaJDM]

The electric motor model bflt210 is plenty power pedal

[@pdmattingly]

Really? I thought of Gates belt doesn't stretch

[@jimmyhe2967]

how is this from 4 years ago omg

[@TheStoneWhisperer]

Just got my Stealth today, I wanted so much for this to be a success story right out of the box...but alas...sorry to say....not. Blew out 2 inner tubes at home just trying to pump up the tires, 3 at the bike shop & we still really don’t know for sure if we fixed the problem. I upgraded the VERY CHEAPO tires for a pair of Armadillos, and had to re-line the rim inside due to the tube bulging out through too large of a stem hole. Guys....the price is really cheap for a reason! I want so bad to love this bike, but there’s no follow up service for a reason. There’s no QA or accountability from the manufacturer whatsoever. I will be testing this ebike throughly for 30 days then making my own update to it. Thanks.....😐🤪

[@scorpiojuan1966]

I'm really thinking of getting this bike.. I'm worried about receiving it and not being able to ride out of box because I have seen many customer complaints about receiving bike out of spec's and missing parts. Any possibility to pick up at Luna shop? I'll ride it home.. lol.. please keep us updated with your 30 day trial. Also how much for another battery?

[@TheStoneWhisperer]

Keep It Real - I REALLY am impressed with my Stealth! I did have some weird issue with tubes blowing up. It was discovered the hole where the tube valve goes through was a slightly larger hole than it should be & the tube was getting pinched in the hole & BAM!! The bikes are shipped with less than recommended pressure due to shipping concerns maybe? So when the bike shop was filling them up they’d explode! I changed out the tubes & tires with a high end set and they’re fine now! The bike itself is a REALLY nice bike! A surprisingly high amount of torque on level to small grades, but do NOT expect this bike to pull you up hills without effort on your part! This is still a bicycle in my opinion. It will merely assist you when you get stuck going up a grade or you just want some peddle assist. The battery lasts a good 15-20 miles depending how much you assist. If you assist to a moderate amount, you’ll get 20 miles. If you sit there and put effort into it, you can expect a low number as low as 12-14 Miles

[@badimpulses17]

It would not be cheap to replace or service the battery.

[@uruguaydestroy7492]

manifest 73 I’m new to e-biking. What’s the price estimate for replacing or servicing the battery?

[@donaldbartholomew209]

3 gears would be ok in a flat area but not enough for most hilly type areas. They should have put a 5 or 7 speed internal hub instead. Nice bike otherwise.

[@joeows6537]

First thing i'd do is order a 1500 watt, front wheel hub and a Ludicrous controller with a Luna 21 amp hour battery!.... if somethings worth doin.... might as well over do it!

[@neilmatkin3829]

Hi that belt will not stretch.

[@chantalfarr7743]

I like it

[@goopman5627]

Wow. This looks like it shits on the FLX Babymaker, which yes i pre ordered NOT knowing this bike even exists. Now i want to cancel my pre order.

[@mikelewis1166]

Definitely not as stealth as the Ride1up roadster v2, heavier too. Way more expensive. Why would anyone choose this bike?

[@thomasjurd172]

Thats good as my p850c is here today

[@mikemorgan8588]

The stealth thing is unfortunate and hopefully will remain in a future dystopian reality that never happens.

[@sammoses9536]

You said nothing at all about the motor! Really, didn't even mention it. And at the end of the review, just slipped in the riding experience, "pretty steep hill, standing up pedaling hard, full power" was needed. Hearing torque of motor would have been nice.

[@Metal-Possum]

Fixed, until it's broken. :)

[@merajhusainansari3628]

Ampler .

[@user-ho6oo7jf1e]

Not available in the USA. Belt drive is single speed. Cost $1000 more.

[@Crustenscharbap]

Great vid. But please don't use pounds. Because pounds in UK US and Canada are different. We don't know where u live. I have the belt drive. I've set up the tension and ride 9000km without doing anything. Its great.

[@theendurance]

IF ONLY IT HAD THROTTLE