Lunar Lake Intel Core Ultra 7 258V Hands On, Zenbook S14 First Look

[@leonxus2701]

the battery is where x86 was brutally bad, thank you ARM for making X86 efficient. healthy compitition helps us consumer

[@danebeee1]

Yeah it was mostly apple though not Qualcomm. I see a lot of uniformed people saying things like “snapdragon made intel be more efficient” because the snapdragon x chips came out a few months ago but they didn’t realize that it’s takes years to develop these chips. So what likely happened was one of the first generations on apple chips made intel see the benefits of this type of architecture. So yes still credit to arm but specially apple.

[@leonxus2701]

@@danebeee1 that's why i said ARM. I never said Qualcomm. Arm architecture efficiency made apple who they are and made Qualcomm come to the pc segment market. If there was no arm to begin with there would be no Apple silicon. Who knows

[@danebeee1]

@@leonxus2701 yeh I know you weren’t saying that I was just saying I have seen that being said a lot. Yeah I am super excited for the future of arm. But even lunar lake proves x86 can be solid for batt life. The stand by time is apparently really bad though. (The phawx video.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

🙌

[@israelramirez0202]

I've always had anywhere from 9.5-11 hours of battery life on my Surface Book 2 13in with an i7-8650U and gtx 1050 mobile. I don't think you have ever used a premium x86 machine. battery life hasn't been an issue for years unless you buy trash laptops worth $50.

[@qvivnb]

A proper comparison between the 780m, 890m & 140v needs to be done with and without extras like frame gen and FSR. You could run things like the GTA V, shadow of the tomb raider and Cyberpunk benchmarks on 720p, 1080p medium to high settings without frame gen or FSR to get raw gpu results.

[@declangallagher1448]

The Phawx will evenutally have in depth decent coverage.

[@razorgcy]

Oh boy, imagine the second gen MSI Claw 🤤

[@gentlemanjones8469]

Portable heater 😋

[@betag24cn]

even less cores, even more noise from heat and the same crappy performance, msi will be so happy, for the money intel will give to them, because these things do not sell

[@Swarailiaball]

@@betag24cn ah yes cuz less power = more heat

[@betag24cn]

@@Swarailiaball 36 watts is less for you, so you must like to see the thing smoke the battery and make lots of noise? it is barely better when compared to current claw, that thing lasts for a hour, this one will last, a hour and a half?

[@Swarailiaball]

@@betag24cn 1. companies will reduce tdp for a handheld (no shit). if they dont, thats also on msi 2. the battery life isnt dictated by intel? they only manufacture the apu?

[@ItsMeProday83]

Thanks for your effort man! Can't wait to see the full review of 258v

[@marcelomoura6685]

I like Intel, AMD and Qualcoom products.

[@asianstud7]

What about Apple? LOL

[@rtausx]

Appel*

[@random_person618]

Intle* ADM* prodcuts*

[@psdhage1]

FINALLY PURCHASED THIS LAPTOP YESTERDAY!!!

[@imreloadin]

The reason that they only have an 8 core/8 thread CPU is that with the Core Ultra 200 series Intel stopped doing Hyper-Threading.

[@Son37Lumiere]

They did away with hyperthreading and limited it to 8 cores because it's more efficient on the new Lunar Lake architecture; and efficiency and much better battery life was their primary goal.

[@imreloadin]

@@Son37Lumiere That's what now having to compete with ARM will do to you.

[@Son37Lumiere]

@@imreloadin Not just ARM, AMD has kicked Intel in the teeth in efficiency as well.

[@itsmilan4069]

ETA 256V is 16GB ram varient while 258V is 32GB varient ig this wasn't a scheduled post but you seriously you gotta recheck when it comes to thumbnail and title

[@robertlawrence9000]

Crazy naming scheme they using 😵‍💫

[@Frozoken]

​@robertlawrence9000 i think clearly disclosing the ram the laptop has in the name is great and discourages companies from sneakily cheaping out

[@mrxmgs3768]

Hopefully a Linux review can be done in the near future, i would love to see how Fedora and/or openSUSE runs in these new Lunar Lake machines.

[@_P0d]

did you found any review yet? people are reporting that not bluetooth working with zenbook s14 lunar lake

[@catto-from-heaven]

Linux 6.12 improved support for these chips. I hope we'll see some reviews soon

[@morten1]

Over the next year we will see many nice thin & light (+ silent and cool but capable) laptops. Finally

[@rhysmuir]

That Msi claw 8 with it’s 80w battery is looking pretty promising

[@Perfect_person_who_has_4_lags]

Why buy Intel when AMD handhelds Are the same price and you get more performance

[@rhysmuir]

@@Perfect_person_who_has_4_lags These reviews are showing better battery life and equal or better performance games to amd. For a handheld gaming device, those sound like good reasons to me

[@Perfect_person_who_has_4_lags]

@@rhysmuir but way more expensive

[@shk0014]

@@rhysmuir don't over commit, wait for reviews, you don't know how it will perform at scaled down voltages.

[@majkronyk]

Competition is always welcomed:)

[@SylvesterAshcroft88]

This sounds quite similar to my old toshiba satellite, which is an absolute workhorse, and still runs pretty well after using it for 8 years, and it seems like asus has some incredibly good laptops available at the moment for the price.

[@abdulkadiraminu262]

Finally!!!! Been waiting for these so long

[@Crustenscharbap]

Thanks for the review. This Core Ultra is absolutely great! Its seems to be slightly slower than older chips but its much more efficient. This is what I've told so often. Most mobile chips were too fast and often needes 60-70W. This makes the PC loud und bulky. I wait for a NUC with this CPU and put this into a fanless Akasa case. (You have also made a video about it)

[@retrogaminga1072]

wow ! intel is back for good!!! That was really impressive...

[@someguy321]

Title says 256V but video is 258V

[@mechanicalmonk2020]

This is the editorial quality we have come to expect from ETA ❤

[@robertlawrence9000]

@@mechanicalmonk2020 Humans be humaning 🚷

[@_mamide_]

The only difference between the two is the RAM Capacity ... 16 GB vs 32 GB

[@kllrbeas]

@@mechanicalmonk2020 Yeah you would think as much as we pay him, ummmm....nvm

[@gentlemanjones8469]

@@mechanicalmonk2020 Yeah, I'm surprised there wasn't a weird audio cut in this video like usual.

[@halim5184]

impressive, i love how u test the battery life using balance mode and at 50% brightness

[@Patrick73787]

You need to edit the title, it's the 258V not 256V

[@NoobNotFoundDev]

Intel and AMD sucks at naming thing right now lol

[@joester4life]

I'm only hear for those beautiful desktop images...

[@zlz95]

According to Intel, 200V has a minimum base power of 8w, which I think can be applied to making fanless variant of laptop or tablet or handheld. I wonder if there will be any manufacturer making one in the near future....

[@runninginthe90s75]

Imagine Intel Lunar Lake on handheld, not to mention XeSS hardware level like DLSS. It gonna be insane for handheld !!

[@NothingNewNerd]

Msi claw is releasing January next year, though it'd be better for it to release by holiday season

[@itsmilan4069]

I hope there'll be camm2 models next year

[@robertlawrence9000]

Probably not since these have integrated RAM build in unfortunately.

[@reiniermoreno1653]

Lpcamm2 would become a thing when DDR6 be officially released

[@shankroidbeast4644]

Unless battery life is a priority for you $1,500.00 is a lot for a laptop that doesn't have a dedicated GPU and has weak multi-threaded performance. It does have a very nice screen to make up for some of that though.

[@israelramirez0202]

multi-thread performance isn't "weak" by any means. it isn't going to top charts, but it wasn't meant to. it's an efficient mobile cpu that was never marketed as Intel's highest-performing chip. it will blaze through 99% of workloads for 99% of people with zero discernible difference in performance compared to a i9-14900k in real world use. benchmarks do not tell the whole story.

[@RK-um9tu]

Have you heard of sales or Best Buy open-box items? My open-box excellent conditon 2024 HP Spectre x360 with 32 ram and 2 tb ssd only costs $1,045US...

[@irata2006]

Lular Lake looks really good, even compared to AMD's Ryzen AI. It also looks like Battlemage fixed 1st Gen ARC's (Alchemist) shortcomings. Overall, thanks for the awesome first-look video.

[@havocthehobbit]

lock everything at 30fps and put setting from medium to high, with upscaling or frame-gen and we have a console quality gaming PC and a really good office or college notebook. Console sales will go down if they bring the prices of these to slighly above celeron prices and these will sell like hotcakes over xmas ,if bundled with 2 controllers and a few already free indy steam split screen games or 3 month xbos game pass. since it will double up as study tools and entertainment units for kids.

[@fxrisxmxli]

When will laptop companies learn that going thinner is not always better.

[@mutchlouis9707]

2024, having USB C with at least full functionality on both sides should be a standard. Especially with that price tag.

[@STANC_YT]

Thanks bro I was not sure that they sleptable perform good but when I bought it after seeing your review it really performs so good thanks

[@JailBotRu]

Wow! Thanks for review!

[@skyak4493]

This does look impressive. It has been a long time since I considered an intel laptop to be the top pic. The memory on chip (like apple) realy opens up the performance.

[@Mamiya645]

It's not about being unable to upgrade the ram, it's about being doomed if the ram goes bad and flips a bit. I have had too much bad luck with ram for reasons beyond my control, like buying new and getting something that had no right to pass QC, twice in a row at worst. Third of the same product from the store was fine of course.

[@alexcastas8405]

Great review! Now I just want to see how good (or bad) the M4’s are before taking the plunge on one of these. So happy I don’t need by an arm pc.

[@samal90]

would love to know how battery life is impacted in standby mode. Like leaving the laptop 24h in standby and then checking how much the battery drained.

[@kennethwilson8236]

That's some great out of the box gaming performance

[@streetfashiontours]

Thanks for review.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

Can't wait for more reviews

[@sheldonkupa9120]

Of course, first thing you slam games on it😂 Thats why i came here👍😉

[@bigbrawler7078]

I swear seeing the "first" comments is so annoying. Like what do you even want for it? Medal? Money? Balls in your mouth?

[@filipyt3400]

yes

[@dadaroja2455]

their mother must so proud of wat they are doing

[@robertlawrence9000]

@@filipyt3400 NOT AGAIN MOM!!!

[@juice7661]

The latter one would be a dream come true for me😁

[@howthereyou9227]

Just ignorè it...... Its been happening since the inception of comments

[@henaka]

Lunar lake 🤤

[@prashut]

Great review. What are the desktop video wallpapers?

[@josiahmoorhouse8036]

How does a channel this large not have proper proofreading done? "Is the new Lunar lake iGPU water than the Radon 780M or the the Radeon 890M?"

[@SOF006]

Exactly, no excuse really. And its a reoccurring theme with all of his videos.

[@PalturBR]

lunar lake IGPU > Radeon 880m Lunar lake IGPU = Radeon 890m (some cases intel arc gpu wins)

[@Ty.mauricee]

From where are the wallpapers? I need those

[@Fab983-scn]

Hi there and thanks for the review. What's your thought about the screen. I heard it's too reflective. Is that true?

[@LeroyMustang]

So this is the fastest PC APU currently?? Well done Intel 👏 👏 👏

[@Son37Lumiere]

What this doesn't show is that while 3dmark shows the 140V faster than the 890m, in actual games it's often slower. Still, a very good improvement for Intel's integrated graphics.

[@NoovGuyMC]

It's not, it's beating radeon 890m in most game, by like 10-20%

[@Son37Lumiere]

@@NoovGuyMC Definitely not. Depends on the game and power levels, faster in some, slower in others.

[@NoovGuyMC]

@@Son37Lumiere 140v in 258v processor both utilizes lower wattage for better performance (ratio) compared to AMD 890m (strix point) (basically low power for high performance, did better than amd) and are able to perform and scale even better on higher power Only certain games where amd 890m are able to beat 140v from intel, which shows this to be mostly drivers issue, but most game shows 140v beating 890m which is great so more competition

[@Son37Lumiere]

@@NoovGuyMC None of that is true.

[@NoovGuyMC]

@@Son37Lumiere bro's in denial When KZbin has mountains of benchmark and you just ignored it

[@cozidonapreguissa]

You have to test it without any upscaler, test it raw graphics so we can really see how much fps it does.

[@danielrdotcom]

All these new thin and lights should come with oculink, then they'd have a place in the market space for people that want one computer that works on the go and can still game with at home.

[@helloken]

4:16 You got it right earlier in the video. The memory is on the package, not in the die itself.

[@navinr8160]

Great analysis. I would also like to know if this laptop is ahood fit for a data scientist?

[@andymuzzo8568]

Damn that looks sleek

[@davidnarcissus39]

waiting for the S16

[@NothingNewNerd]

Battlemage! Yippeeee

[@bmqww223]

INTEL MIGHT KICK AMDS TEETH IN WITH BATTLEMAGE OH YESSS

[@robertlawrence9000]

You know what, if AMD decides to not serve the high end GPU market, I wonder if in a few generations, Intel could step in and fill that position. It would be interesting to see and also Intel kind of does have a head start on AMD with AI upscaling for GPUs. We really need someone to compete with Nvidia.

[@bmqww223]

@@robertlawrence9000 you don't say? seen how amd singing different tune now? lol they want to capture market share with rdna 4 and fsr 4 ai upscaling I say my ass, truth is they want to protect their market share from intel.... intel has pulled a common sense move with this one, they have sent out a battlemage in non gaming laptop , so that even with hardware hiccup they can dismiss by saying that the chassis is stopping them from they will smooth the drivers with lunar lake /xe2 here and theyll get the dev optimizations too here and when battemage discete gpus come it will be a tight comeptition for rdna 4 given how good intel was with raytracing at first place

[@AstralQuarks]

What if Qualcomm acquires itel then 🔥

[@robertlawrence9000]

@@AstralQuarks Not happening

[@bmqww223]

@@AstralQuarks it would have been a chance but they almost managed to acquire 8 billion dollar in a week, order from AWS, almost 2 or more billion dollars from the chips act, plus they probably got some grace orders through governemnt intervention, and do yout think they will just let their crown jewel go to qualcomm? XD

[@asianstud7]

Gorgeous laptop. Beats the Apple in design now if you ask me. If it only had a haptic touchpad. Id run out and by it right this minute. LOL

[@andrewt9204]

I know its better for efficiency and a slight bump in performance, but on-die RAM a deal breaker. Just ordered a 155H with sodimm. Wasnt comfortable paying 200+ to go from 16 to 32GB. Otherwise lunar lake looks pretty good.

[@ivayloi736]

Good to see Intel catching up... But this is a business laptop. I can get Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 with RTX 4060 much cheaper... It's much better for gaming and productivity.

[@hakimbdrt6953]

Who need dedicated graphics card now 🤔

[@trinarystar]

I’ve been checking the internet recently and every laptop I see is 256/258V, is the 266V and 268V not out yet?? I literally can’t find any laptops with them, even KZbin reviews are all 256 or 258!

[@mateobaca628]

Great video, would like to see GTA V testing

[@Jada_Maru]

Can we get some settings other than low? Cyberpunk at 90fps low 1080 is great, but at this point can we please try medium or something to see if the game gets 60 with decent graphics?

[@robertlawrence9000]

Cool! It would also be interesting to see this up against AMD's offering using an external GPU with an external monitor to have a like for like scenario as much as possible and so it performance results could focus on how well the CPU actually is instead of just the iGPUs. Also different setups of laptop screens could have an effect on power consumption if testing out how power efficient the CPUs are. Nice video! I look forward to seeing more on these chips!

[@ricarmig]

I’m glad Intel entered the fight again, AMD (and now Intel) showed us that we can have almost ARM-like battery life with better performance and still x86 compatible. Qualcomm and Microsoft made a bad decision not forcing DRM manufacturers to make their old and present software ARM compatible nor a strong GPU. Intel / AMD have a much better GPU, fully compatible CPU and great battery life. AMD’s chips shake very good at lower TDPs, let’s see if some reviews test these chips at 15W.

[@Canarious]

I would love to see if there is a difference between 8GB VRAM and 16GB VRAM when gaming

[@robertlawrence9000]

I think these have non replaceable RAM built in and only come in 16GB and 32GB variants at the moment.

[@Canarious]

@@robertlawrence9000 You're right, also I had forgotten that this also takes advantage of DVMT. Windows by default will reserve half the RAM your system has for dedicated GPU graphics, but this is an, "up to" variable. Hardware reserved will be utilized at all times and dynamically use more when necessary. This is similiar to the Auto VRAM setting on AMD GPU devices such as the ROG Ally. Some games perform well when using DVMT and some do not because some games are programmed to look for how much VRAM your system has to optimize itself. When it sees less than 1GB dedicated, it compensates for it, and you get poor performance. That's not the case here since dedicated doesn't exist, only Shared GPU memory does. This answers my request, there wouldn't be a difference.

[@naapsuvaimne740]

will get this

[@EinSwitzer]

Super proud , making my 4050 go uh oh

[@barabrainrot]

can you do a comparison with the snapdragon chips? really interested in the difference in battery life

[@robertlawrence9000]

If snapdragon will actually run the applications he would like to test.

[@erictayet]

For thin & light, it's normal for soldered RAM. The DIMM connector is chunky. Want upgradeability? Buy something like a Vivobook. But it's much heavier. Would like a head to head review with the AMD 365/370 laptop. Should be interesting. Not going with Snapdragon this generation.

[@lubossoltes321]

Except that these Intels do not support RAM upgradability at all in any form factor.

[@Frozoken]

it's not soldered it's on package. On package has much more performance and efficiency benefits but is more expensive

[@lubossoltes321]

@@Frozoken from upgradability prtspective that's even worse. There are options to change soldered packages, on die not so much.

[@Frozoken]

@lubossoltes321 No its not because soldered memory is way more anticomsumer as theres almost no benefits to it whatsoever. This is a trade off

[@erictayet]

Soldered RAM can operate at higher speed. Any DDR5 ram above 7000MT/S require a shorter trace to the CPU's memory controller. CAMM2 is seeking to change this but if you look at 8000MT/s ram, it needs to be super close to the CPU to avoid issues with signaling. This is why it's hard to operate at 8000MT/s on DIMM slots with DDR5 but you regularly get 8000MT/s LPDDR5 on high-end laptops. Agree RAM on CPU is impossible to upgrade but that's the price to pay for Intel iGPU to outperform RDNA3.5. Hoping to see Gaming laptops on AMD Strix Point using 8333MT/s RAM. Still waiting for the ROG FLOW X13/Z13.

[@spencerfong1088]

Wow it's almost like having a ps4 capable machine integrated graphics sure have come a long way

[@asianstud7]

Love that background wall paper. Where can i get it? and is it compatible with the mac? thanks.

[@Ty.mauricee]

i want them to , have you found something?

[@TechnobikerID]

Every manufacturer must really push their low wattage products before the release of M4 and taking their shares again due to lack of performance of previous meteor lakes or compatibility issues with the snapdragons.

[@mrbladestone]

Really wanna know how this laptop and cpu performs on linux!

[@sharveennair369]

Where can i get those cool animated wallpapers?

[@marcelomoura6685]

It is amazing machine!

[@Alpha8713]

Soldered RAM is a deal-breaker for me. Otherwise, this looks nice.

[@tchallawallace7968]

I'm going wait for strix halo or panther lake. The gains of this generation seem to be power saving specific. Z2 according to the latest leaks will have only 12 cu instead of the 890m 16.

[@ytn00b3]

Intel is really pushing it. I'm comparing this with up coming AMD

[@DrakeTech-kh8hs]

It's not revolutionary as Intel painted it... 3nm chip using 8533mhz memories, it can compete with Strix 4nm @ 7500Mhz

[@iniyan19]

Hi , whats the power draw while gaming? Is it plugged in ? Or just battery?

[@Ty.mauricee]

11:00 what is the wallpaper called and where can i get it?

[@franciscodescalzo6703]

buen video, gracias

[@oldgangster4119]

Snapdragoons

[@juanaldaba95]

What beats the 2023 Zenbook Pro 14 OLED w/RTX4070 without taking away features that come with it?

[@rajmangalpandey3910]

Nothing

[@juanaldaba95]

@@rajmangalpandey3910 yeahh I didn’t think so

[@become-software-architect8043]

But less cores

[@juanaldaba95]

@@become-software-architect8043 the Zenbook Pro 14 OLED has 14 cores/20 threads

[@juanaldaba95]

@@become-software-architect8043 the Zenbook Pro 14 OLED has 14 cores/20 threads. What are you talking about?

[@ВидеофрагментыМира]

Please when u showing gameplays show actual display have looks to (it is just eye pleasing to watch rather then recorded video) (and also interesting to know how displays look)

[@Diamond_Hanz]

Intel making AMDuuuaahhh again

[@RaunoNasir]

Is there emulation games also coming? Or am i missing something?

[@Amrrkevin]

We need laptop displays to support ltpo & battery boost when u change display resolution from 4k to 1080p just like mobiles

[@soul3lixir]

Please let us know if you can use an EGPU. I have a GPD g1 that didn't play nice with the XPS 13 with lunar lake.

[@timmiller2476]

You mention it’s charging rate. How fast does it charge in watts? I know the stock charger is 65w but I’ve heard it can use upto 100w. Any idea?

[@antipositivepositiveclub]

does it open with one hand? how good are the hinges?

[@Seb00lean]

How does the gaming performance compare to the 890m?

[@estebanayala4553]

And then were losing against the Obsolescence, soldered Ram directly integrated in the SoC...and paying gold for lead

[@boucha91]

looks like intel is recovering thanks to TSMC

[@rodolforubens]

Can you test without those AI upscaling/frame gen features?

[@NicholasWilliams-u3q]

Where can I get your wallpaper

[@HP4L16]

One thing I really dislike is the use of upscaling and frame gen in these benchmarks, it's impossible to get it's actual performance from it. We need native performance to establish a baseline, upscaling should only be an extra on top of native. Also trying to make everything run over 60 FPS is kind of pointless in a review, that's something end users can do and can be a seperate video. Running at native 1080 low and medium will give us a much better understanding of what the hardware is capable of.

[@mariusgabrielciocarlan2447]

Hi, can you please make a review of GPD DUO. THX!

[@QuyenHoang-se1sv]

Can you play these game unplugged?

[@cooldude8100]

What about the thermals?

[@MrMis1osm]

Does it support usb c charging?