Ocarina of Time's Unluckiest Speedrun Trick

The Zelda: Ocarina of Time any% speedrun changed forever in 2015, following the discovery of Get Item Manipulation (GIM). It was a terrible luck dependent glitch that scared many runners and viewers away. This is how speedrunners conquered terrible RNG and saved any%.
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[@LunaticJ]

Soundtracks used in the video: 0:00 Title Theme - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 0:50 Hyrule Castle Tower - The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 1:32 Secret of the Forest - Chrono Trigger 3:26 The Wind is Blowing at Cavi Cape - Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story 5:13 Rogueport Sewers - Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 6:22 Shop - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 7:25 Full Steam Ahead [Spirit Tracks] - Super Smash Bros. Ultimate 8:58 Luigi’s Theme - Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 9:28 The Great Plateau - The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 11:28 Castle - New Super Mario Bros. Wii 12:30 Mage Duel - Yu-Gi-Oh! Forbidden Memories 14:26 Leaping Off the Edge - The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 15:07 Hilda’s Theme 1 - The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds 17:38 Ingo - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 19:04 Online Waiting Room - Super Smash Bros. Brawl 19:50 The Great Sea - The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 21:28 Grasslands All the Way! - Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story 24:03 Excess Express at Dusk - Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door

[@thatcraftyone3787]

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[@indecision999]

paper mario ❤

[@dannyb21892]

The extra funny thing is that nowadays Any% is under 4 minutes long and is coincidentally at an ~86% fail rate for the RNG needed to have a chance at world record.

[@LunaticJ]

KEKW

[@lkjkhfggd]

It's also way less cool to watch. Link just runs around kokiri forest doing random shit until suddenly the game's over.

[@dannyb21892]

@@lkjkhfggd it's very much not a spectator friendly category, beyond the initial shock of seeing it done. But it's really incredible from the game science perspective, and that's where it's merit really lies in terms of being able to appreciate it

[@leaffinite2001]

​@@lkjkhfggdtbh i dont get why anyone watches speedruns anyway like its cool theyvexist, the science behind some glitches is interesting but watching ppl do something over and over and over and over and over and over is boring no matter what it is

[@lkjkhfggd]

@@leaffinite2001 well, I don't get why anybody watches anybody live streaming video games at all. I like to see speed runs on KZbin, where they've uploaded their best run. If you played the video game as a kid and it took like 30 hours to beat, seeing someone beat it in 1 hour is mind blowing.

[@namelesslang5909]

Fun fact, this glitch started a new issue for the OOT speedruns while resolving a previous issue at the same time, as the GIM glitch was responsible for the eventual fade in popularity of the iQue (a rare chinese-only nintendo system that many were opposed to, citing it as an unhealthy limitation to the category due to the difficulty picking one up) as a preferred device to speedrun on.

[@lydiazap7243]

this is fascinating, thank you

[@onlysmiles4949]

That GDQ run has got to be heartbreaking I can't imagine being in that position knowing the game is cursing you with the worst possible RNG in front of thousands of people...

[@JacktheRah]

I do love how much support he got though. Really nice to see!

[@DoctorDocMD]

Well the worst possible RNG would be if he kept trying that for the rest of Eternity without getting a single Deku nut, so when you think about it he was really lucky :)

[@silasnebulous4533]

​@@DoctorDocMD1 in 5K unlucky.

[@vinnyandlin8510]

Rnjesus is real

[@TheGlitched64]

Must of been so stressful having the trick fail again and again in front of a massive crowd like that, them clapping along and cheering when it was successful was really cool, even though it wasn't fast the crowd got really into it, awesome to see.

[@LendriMujina]

Using Yu-Gi-Oh: Forbidden Memories music during the explanation of how unforgiving the RNG is was a *brilliant* choice.

[@dawne2780]

I love these speedrun documentaries XD they're incredible.

[@Xrilliam762]

Same bruh

[@Txrje]

I love how GIM is such a hard trick but it's 100% consistent in terms of RNG. The Defeat Ganon No SRM route that does GIM twice now is some of the highest skill expression in Ocarina of Time ever

[@mrtoxicwasteland]

This is the content I open KZbin weakly, hourly, thirsty, deprived, hungry for

[@Hutch2Much]

that gdq clip is painful, oh my god

[@ScrambledAndBenedict]

Imagine being the king of evil in your ultimate form, and getting your ass kicked by a 6 year old with a knife and a stick lmfao

[@austininatx]

I started following OoT shortly before all this, good memories. I used to hang out in Joden and then Skater streams. I remember an old skater stream that could make a cool random glitch video. He’s in forest temple climbing up the well vines and unequips iron boots a frame before emerging from the water. Boom, antigravity glitch and link is sidehop flying around. This was especially cool before srm completely broke everything. Plus it was super simple and even I could do it first try

[@Adol3]

Despite the GDQ run being so unlucky, that was the hypest GDQ has ever been. We'll likely never see that level of energy again at a speedrun event.

[@billymays614]

I flipping love your videos man! You and Pesky Plays are like the only channels keeping Oot alive

[@ZEUSfeedZ]

criminally low amount of subs for the effort going into these videos

[@The-Wock]

I think with a lil more of a consistent upload schedule he would crush the speedrunning games niche

[@hx7004]

I 2nd this

[@mightyfetheredone]

Thanks for making such a crazy glitch easy to understand! Great video! 🤙🏼

[@Druncle_Titus]

Great video, glad GIM is so much better now lol

[@bradford9086]

Mad creepypasta vibes at 3:38.

[@fayescarlet]

The world of speedrunning is as astounding as ever. These documentaries are the bomb!

[@moonstars6003]

I hope the people who did this speed run didn’t go nuts while playing it lol

[@LunaticJ]

But they wanted to get the nuts, and went nuts when they didn’t get nuts

[@moonstars6003]

@@LunaticJ lol 😂

[@F-Lambda]

​@@LunaticJno matter what happened, the result was nuts!

[@nugboy420]

That’s double nuts.

[@lambybunny7173]

@@nugboy420which only has a 1.5625% chance of happening

[@Jelster64]

Just now discovered this, thanks for the excellent video. I have a lot of affinity and nostalgia for this era.

[@MrIcenice44]

I could watch speedrun explanations and retrospectives all day sometimes

[@Gamingwithahandicap]

J you should do a video on Tak and the Power of Juju speed runs! It’s a 3D platformer on GameCube with a small but awesome speedrun scene! Love your videos! :)

[@Azenatrail]

And six months later a whole new route has been found.

[@eviecrimson]

the reason that theyre gohma larva is cuz their deku nuts didnt drop

[@jordanthejq12]

Hot take, but that GDQ disaster is entirely the organizers' fault. That run should not have been accepted. An 85% failure rate that will kill a run is the furthest thing from marathon safe.

[@Kalobi]

I mean, with a 20-30 second retry time, it's not *that* bad for a marathon run on paper. There's a ~50% chance of getting it within 4 tries.

[@JerryBeansMan]

Great vid!! Loving the BGM choices, too--Ocarina of Time, BoTW, Chrono Trigger... and is that the Mage Duel theme from Yu-Gi-Oh! Forbidden Memories at 12:30?!

[@LunaticJ]

I do be farmin’ Meadow Mage until I get that MBD

[@VermillionMonk]

​@@LunaticJNow that's a blast from the past

[@DivineLight661]

been a while since i've watched such a high quality ocarina of time video, liked and subbed :)

[@FlyinRaptorJesus]

And now you don't even have to enter deku tree for defeat Gannon lol

[@silverreaps6803]

so crazy that when the crowd started clapping Joden got crazy luck

[@therealLoydna]

Just sayin, any time I hear Chrono Trigger music, I pay attention. Good inclusion, man. Great video, good hook, and solid info. Learned some new things on this video. Subbed

[@philiphunt-bull5817]

I love the Bowser's inside story soundtrack!

[@ckruberducky]

Dang what a trip to see druncle on a video like this. I used to watch him like 5 to 6 years ago haha. I learned Kak wess with him lol

[@powwowken2760]

The GDQ run could've been worse... It could be watching someone messing up a Windwaker pause buffer multiple times... You couldn't pay me to watch another Windwaker speedrun after suffering through that.

[@TheAverageGamer1]

Remember when that halo 2 runner who faked all his runs tried to run through halo 2 and failed in front of EVERYONE😂😂😂😂

[@tysondennis1016]

It’s crazy that 20 yr old+ games are having new glitches found in them every day.

[@SparkleLynn2113]

>shows the crowd going absolutely nuts "It got a lukewarm reception" Idk about that

[@batlrar]

Wait, why can't bottle duplication be used to get a second bottle in this case? That would definitely allow for two bottles, and it's a very easy glitch to do, even for casual players.

[@nedcurfman3486]

Always love LunaticJ content! Side note- if you’re able, can you give some insight as to what’s up with the Lowest Percent channel? It’s been dormant for over half a year.

[@wompastompa3692]

That one GDQ that featured this trick with Skater and Cosmo was a ROUGH watch. I forget if Joden was also there.

[@jacksonmiyamoto3347]

Keep up the awesome videos man! I don’t do any speed running my self besides a 16 star run for SM64, but I don’t do it very fast😂 but all of these videos are so interesting and entertaining to watch! Love the videos!

[@oronthemoron]

lets go bingo!! 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥 💪💪💪🔥🔥

[@pikXpixelart]

Always love a new LunaticJ video!

[@swiceguy2871]

What song is playing at the very end of the video? You might consider putting a credits section for the music used. Could be cool. Anyway great vid with so much catch-up content. New sub incoming

[@LunaticJ]

I have now made a pinned comment listing every song used in the video

[@cuddlequeen3225]

0:00 in a galaxy far, far away.

[@CommissarMitch]

Ok the catharsis of when the Nut Drops is a massive mood

[@disfiguringthegoddess1102]

the main thing that pissed me off about the gdq run was people domated for a name, and he didn't use it. just using "J." that's when I said fuck him and never watched him again. he cared more about a time then he did the event raiser.

[@KanaevM]

Maipulation.

[@InsaneFirebat]

Well now I wish I'd seen that GDQ run already. I'm a fan of hilariously bad RNG moments.

[@marksmithwas12]

I can't believe I've never heard of this trick before, wow

[@Practicalinvestments]

‘85% Fail Rate’ same fail rate as my math class 🤣🥲😫😭

[@SUPERFunStick]

Those odds are so huge. Would never happen with just a couple people watching but hundreds of thousands of people watching and hoping and cheering...... I'm seriously wondering if quantum luck and the observer effect actually had something to do with the results. That's astounding

[@Kaitri]

In 2014 it was still cosmo tho

[@fastgamer2269]

Amazing video!

[@bear_mode]

your videos are always high quality

[@SUPERFunStick]

Nut drop, get item manipulation process.. that's a lot of stuff to remember so I like to take short cuts and abbreviate things. Especially with the get item manipulation process. GIMP but nut drop is 2 syllables so I just say nut drop and GIMP... what?

[@tehjamerz]

20:33 shield a HWHAT

[@arthilas_]

Why did noone take action when the once-so-popular speedrun category started to die because of this glitch? They could have simply banned the glitch from Any%-runs, created a new category on the leaderboard or even allowed the usage of cheats/a modded ROM of the game to ensure a 100% success rate on the RNG-dependant element.

[@S1lv3r1]

Yes! More OoT! Would LOVE to see a video on OoT Randomizers.

[@pcanzz]

Good video man

[@PhantomHeit]

Cavi Cape music!!

[@lnazumaKanon]

There’s a world of speed running. You guys won’t know about .. I’m heavily debating posting gameplay of what I unintentionally ended up speed running as a person who’s ripped gaming in 2010 when my Jiji committed suicide. There’s a lot of unrecorded depressed people with insanity syndrome, that got some out right Life after death style situations that end up becoming as but a mental strain as what happens at GDQ2015… I’ll be real a lot of people need to post up and story up about the dread personally and virtually that’s gone down in just the weird Times

[@TTHStuff]

please put song credits for the songs used

[@LunaticJ]

Check the new pinned comment. Thank you for your suggestion!

[@Local_PensiNumi]

Every copy of this video is personalized. . .

[@Samd0tcom]

huh?

[@agent00meme22]

'narcissa' wright 😆

[@rappakalja5295]

And?

[@TepidBlack]

it’s been nearly 10 years get over it already lmao

[@agent00meme22]

it could be 10,000 years and still make me laugh.@@TepidBlack

[@rq3167]

“Play pretend with me or else!!!!”😂

[@andrewd4438]

Ah nuts That is all

[@Ardamax_]

February Forf, 2015

[@LethalBubbles]

only the luckiest speed runners get the nut drop

[@SpectreXS]

For me this will go down as one of the worst routes in speedrun history. Any% was quite unwatchable at the time, but historically it's amazing to look at its existence.

[@TepidBlack]

top 3 worst of all time are probably iQue any%, this, and Wii U MM any%, which is hilarious seeing as they’re all either this game or the one other game on the same engine

[@yourmimic1184]

omfg i did this so long ago. lmao gamefaq was a G. XD

[@kevinjoserugama3073]

Does somebody knows the piano music at 11:04 minute mark?

[@Druncle_Titus]

Also obligatory Let’s go Bingo

[@NeutralReacts]

can someone tell me what game the song at 2:25 comes from, im blanking so hard.

[@diribigal]

Chrono Trigger

[@SmKnJays]

Probably heard it from wiz khalifa- never been pt 2

[@Mahaveez]

1/8 isn't bad for a 5-10 minute turnaround on RNG gate.

[@djtomoy]

I don’t like it when you say “nut drop”

[@HeyitsEkim]

man and i thought modern gim was bad

[@quintonconoly]

cool

[@GoGetYoMama]

Aye wizzzzzz

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

Do OoT runners constantly make jokes about nut drops?

[@Kami_Com2]

you know peper mario 64 speedrun use ocarina of time srm

[@General12th]

hehe nut drops

[@simpli_A]

HEY EVERYONE! OoT IS EASIER THAN IT’S EVER BEEN, PERIOD! no… no wait… it- it just got harder then ev- NEVER MIND IT’S EASIER THAN EVER AGAIN!

[@Crowned_Hearts]

Wait hold up so This game had TWO GLITCHES that almost killed the speedrunning scene of it???? The wrong warp with the 11th owl statue and this...... Bruv what

[@kyleGoldstien]

Music is to loud

[@keatonkuuuun]

I feel like it's more fun to watch people beat the game dungeon by dungeon.

[@LunaticJ]

Watch the MST category it’ll be on AGDQ tomorrow night

[@keatonkuuuun]

@@LunaticJ nice I don't work tomorrow either.

[@fenryrtheshaman]

8 mintue reset for ~25% chance isn't that bad for a speedrun...

[@logankappert3700]

Narcissa write LUL

[@IGN_OFFClAL]

I kind of hate any percent of this for a few reasons... but mostly how years of speedrunning glitches and tech just kind of disappear from the game. I hope a no wrong warp category becomes popular one day... for all games

[@LunaticJ]

No Wrong Warp is a really cool category I wish was more popular. It’s basically 2011 any% but with double GIM to skip the Light Arrow cutscene (longest cutscene in the entire game!)

[@superjumpbros64]

Hmmm

[@Carboy45]

Nope would never do oot speedruns atleast on official Leaderboards I don’t like toxic communities.

[@MagnitudeReviews]

Any% is just not fun to watch anymore.

[@DongKEKong]

"Narcissa"

[@Cainb23]

Some advice for speed viewers; If ONE little bad rng section in an entire speedrun makes it unwatchable for you.. you shouldn’t be watching speedruns at all. Cause I got some bad news for you, this isn’t even the top 50 of bad rng sections I’ve seen in speedruns. There’s plenty of runs where you gotta reset for hours before you get a run with good rng. To each their own of course it’s just absurd we’re acting like this is the worst thing to happen to speedrunning… a single low rng chance section….

[@idontwantahandlethough]

I don't think anybody is acting like that...

[@sammer1097]

People aren't acting like that. You're the only one overreacting here. Putting words in people's mouths just to call them out...

[@Robert_D_Mercer]

Only reason shit like this was super popular was because homies like me had nothing to watch after we came home from the back breaking labor. Glad Ontario is upping the immigration here super hard so I cant complain.

[@esrohm6460]

with stuff like this you always have to ask shouldn't we just allow hacking to guarantee things like this. some luck based things are ok like when you need to farm drops of enemies that random drop chance is just time added to the run, but these tricks will be reset for until you get them first try so if everyone anyways only plays past if it is first try why not remove all the other runs before they even get played so that more palyers attempt this

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

Except that retrying RNG is a part of speedrunning culture basically. You want to change how the whole thing works to make it more viewable for you. I think it should be allowed at GDQ though

[@2DollarGargoyle]

@bingo

[@LunaticJ]

LET’S GO BINGO (I still need to finish Tears of the Kingdom before I grind bingo. Trust me I want to)

[@2DollarGargoyle]

@@LunaticJ We'll always be here binging away, whenever you're ready :D

[@idontwantahandlethough]

whats bingo (besides the game old people play)?

[@REDLINE.FGC1]

First

[@REDLINE.FGC1]

​​@@Cliffordlongheadok, you criminal bot

[@matta9215]

imagine the smell in the room there at sgdq. the necromorphs are probably disgusting beyond belief

[@ifael1]

What the fuck was that thing named torje??

[@Cielesis]

cool